Tuesday, 2015-01-20

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SaintAardvark	Arghh, just figured out my neutron.conf may have been missing tenant_id	00:08
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* SaintAardvark goes back to reinstall for the nth time		00:08
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Sam-I-Am	SaintAardvark: you can just... fix it	00:09
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Sam-I-Am	the only place i recall tenant id is in the nova notifications	00:10
Sam-I-Am	which means neutron cant tell nova the networking is done, and leads to a vif error	00:10
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SaintAardvark	Sam-I-Am: I would, but I'd already purged packages/config files	00:10
Sam-I-Am	prior to icehouse, nova just assumed the networking worked	00:10
SaintAardvark	However, I	00:10
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SaintAardvark	However, I'm generating neutron.conf w/a script	00:11
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Sam-I-Am	well, for future reference, you can more or less fix stuff on the fly	00:11
SaintAardvark	and the "tenant_id=$(keystone cmd)" part fails because I'd failed to install keystone. :-(	00:11
Sam-I-Am	uh yeah thats a problem	00:11
SaintAardvark	On the fly is good, but I worry about being able to duplicate this	00:12
SaintAardvark	so I tend to wipe & reinstall to make sure I can do it again and again	00:12
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SaintAardvark	yeah, the vif error scenario sounds likely	00:13
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SaintAardvark	dangit, 4095 again	00:22
Sam-I-Am	heh	00:22
Sam-I-Am	still missing something	00:22
SaintAardvark	but it's got the same tap name as before I did apt-get remove --purge and rebooted	00:22
SaintAardvark	which means I've prolly got some bit of config still hanging around	00:23
SaintAardvark	think I can blame things on that?	00:23
SaintAardvark	(as in, should I reinstall?)	00:23
Sam-I-Am	well, if you didnt flush ovs and just blasted neutron, the config will stay	00:23
Sam-I-Am	just drop and re-create the ovs db	00:23
Sam-I-Am	or do the emergency reset thing	00:23
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SaintAardvark	?	00:23
SaintAardvark	(I picture a big red button somewhere in the corner of the server...)	00:24
Sam-I-Am	ovs-vsctl emer-reset	00:24
Sam-I-Am	something like that	00:24
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SaintAardvark	ah	00:24
SaintAardvark	drop/recreate -- is that done by neutron-ovs-cleanup?	00:24
Sam-I-Am	no	00:25
Sam-I-Am	that just tells neutron to make sure ovs is doing the right thing	00:25
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SaintAardvark	okay	00:25
Sam-I-Am	the db is in /etc/openvswitch	00:25
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Sam-I-Am	you can delete it	00:25
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SaintAardvark	just came across that	00:26
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SaintAardvark	okay, so if I do apt-get remove --purge [neutron stuff], then remove the db, then reboot	00:26
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SaintAardvark	I should have a fairly clean slate, correct?	00:26
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SaintAardvark	(could also get around by apt-get --purge openvswitch I suppose)	00:27
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Sam-I-Am	you could purge and reinstall ovs, sure	00:29
Sam-I-Am	or just go in there and recreate br-int	00:29
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SaintAardvark	recreate: you mean by hand, with ovs-vsctl commands?	00:30
SaintAardvark	or editing the db file?	00:30
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Sam-I-Am	ovs-vsctl	00:30
Sam-I-Am	emer-reset should work tho	00:30
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SaintAardvark	but IIUC, neutron will get a list of interfaces from network node	00:35
SaintAardvark	then go through them saying "I know about this one, I don't know about that one"	00:35
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SaintAardvark	and sets unknown ones to vlan 4095 (which just drops/blocks everything)	00:35
SaintAardvark	if that's correct, wouldn't any surgery I do w/ovs-vsctl just get reverted next time the server thinks to do this?	00:36
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Sam-I-Am	depends if you're starting from a clean slate on the server	00:37
SaintAardvark	damn, same name for tap	00:37
SaintAardvark	clean slate: yeah; starting to think I need to rebuild controller too	00:37
Sam-I-Am	where are you seeing this tap?	00:38
SaintAardvark	on the networking node	00:38
Sam-I-Am	oh, yeah... drop that db on the controller	00:38
Sam-I-Am	like... ovs-vsctl?	00:38
Sam-I-Am	or some other output	00:38
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SaintAardvark	sorry, ovs-vsctl show; I'm not being very clear here..	00:38
SaintAardvark	Pastebin:	00:38
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SaintAardvark	http://paste.openstack.org/show/159018/	00:39
Sam-I-Am	the only tap interface there would be on br-int, and goes to the dhcp namespace	00:39
SaintAardvark	Yep, that's the one I've been struggling with	00:39
Sam-I-Am	the endpoint is in 'ip netns dhcp*'	00:39
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Sam-I-Am	err	00:39
Sam-I-Am	the dhcp namespace in 'ip netns'	00:39
SaintAardvark	yep	00:39
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Sam-I-Am	is the dhcp namespace created?	00:44
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SaintAardvark	yes	00:44
SaintAardvark	created every time	00:45
SaintAardvark	(though right this moment I'm going through the purge process again, along w/redoing Neutron on the controller)	00:45
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SaintAardvark	diff tap interface name, same vlan :-(	00:50
Sam-I-Am	did you enable verbose mode in all the config files?	00:51
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SaintAardvark	yep, plus debug	00:52
Sam-I-Am	debug might be too much	00:52
Sam-I-Am	whats in the ovs agent and dhcp agent logs?	00:53
Sam-I-Am	when you try to create the tenant network, that is	00:53
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Sam-I-Am	and probably any network...	00:53
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laxdog	Hello, I'm trying to use packstack --alinone behind a proxy but I'm getting no where with it. Looks as though it's due to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/63727/	00:54
laxdog	Anyone know of a workaround for this?	00:55
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SaintAardvark	Sam-I-Am: digging through now...	00:58
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SaintAardvark	openvswitch-agent.log: http://paste.openstack.org/show/159021/	01:01
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riz_	hi everyone	01:01
SaintAardvark	dhcp-agent.log: http://paste.openstack.org/show/159022/	01:01
riz_	i have a question regarding setting up keystone as an identity provider	01:01
riz_	has anybody done this before?	01:01
SaintAardvark	both of those run like so: grep -viE 'debug\|Exit code\|Stdout\|Command\|Stderr' logfile	01:02
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riz_	specifically using open-id	01:02
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Sam-I-Am	SaintAardvark: this 'not defined on plugin' seems a bit weird	01:05
Sam-I-Am	SaintAardvark: what do you have in core_plugin and service_plugins ?	01:05
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Sam-I-Am	in neutron.conf	01:05
Sam-I-Am	and are those consistent	01:06
Sam-I-Am	i need to find food	01:06
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kupo24z	Sam-I-Am: is 'Stderr: 'RTNETLINK answers: No such file or directory\n'' normal in the compute nodes l3-agent.log?	01:06
kupo24z	Thats the final line of the trace for 'DVR: Failed updating arp entry'	01:07
SaintAardvark	Sam-I-Am: core-plugin = ml2 and service_plugins = router	01:07
SaintAardvark	consistent across network node, controller and compute node	01:08
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SaintAardvark	reinstalling controller/compute/network again.	01:15
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kupo24z	Sam-I-Am: I've also noticed an instance will fail to start with openvswitch-agent.log reporting 'Assigning 1 as local vlan for net-id=$netid' and then after Unable to parse interface details. Exception: list index out of range. Nova-scheduler retries it on another node and if it succeeds it will have two fixed addresses	01:30
kupo24z	Not sure if thats DVR related though	01:30
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Sam-I-Am	yay food	01:41
Sam-I-Am	kupo24z: do you have 'ipset' installed?	01:41
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kupo24z	Sam-I-Am: Yes, v6.19	01:48
kupo24z	Looks like the second issue, where it having two fixed ip's was neutron-server on the controller taking too long to respond. I up'ed the timeout on nova.conf from 30->90 and it seems to have fixed it	01:48
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kupo24z	however that RTNETLINK answers: No such file or directory remains	01:49
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kupo24z	I'm running 3.18.2-1.el7 with ovs 2.3.0 if that helps	01:50
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Sam-I-Am	hmm	01:50
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Sam-I-Am	well, the unable to parse thing i've seen before	01:50
Sam-I-Am	but havent seen any obvious impact. i think its some sort of timing problem.	01:51
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kupo24z	Do you know if its possible to run multiple neutron-server processes in active/active?	01:51
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Sam-I-Am	seemed to me like i'd see the error and the instance would spawn on that node anyway	01:52
Sam-I-Am	sure. its just an api. use a load balancer and a database cluster like galera.	01:52
kupo24z	from what I can see it doesnt really affect anything	01:52
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Sam-I-Am	when i looked at the code a month or two ago, it seemed like neutron was looking for an interface that another process in neutron hadn't built yet	01:53
Sam-I-Am	neutron just runs ovs commands and then looks for output to see what ports things are on	01:54
Sam-I-Am	then it stores that info in the db	01:54
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Sam-I-Am	you should try to figure out what rtnetlink is looking for	01:55
Sam-I-Am	its probably in the debug output somewhere	01:55
Sam-I-Am	or its looking for a device that doesn't exist yet	01:55
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kupo24z	l3_agent Command: ['sudo', 'neutron-rootwrap', '/etc/neutron/rootwrap.conf', 'ip', 'netns', 'exec', 'qrouter-0e5bad15-29b4-495f-95bc-3ea31e001e5f', 'ip', '-4', 'neigh', 'del', '192.168.1.221', 'lladdr', 'fa:16:3e:5a:b6:82', 'dev', 'qr-e028eabb-db']	01:55
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kupo24z	that has exit code 2, which the RTNETLINK is from	01:55
Sam-I-Am	does that stuff exist?	01:56
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Sam-I-Am	its trying to remove a static arp entry	01:56
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kupo24z	Where can i check? arp -a just lists the compute node IP's	01:57
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kupo24z	there is a namespace for that qrouter, qrouter-0e5bad15-29b4-495f-95bc-3ea31e001e5f	01:57
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Sam-I-Am	'ip netns exec qrouter-whatever ip neigh'	01:59
Sam-I-Am	see if that entry is in there	01:59
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kupo24z	Nope	02:01
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Sam-I-Am	sounds like something got out of sync	02:01
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abhirc	Need advice - I am currently trouble shooting a networking issue - not able to ping my VM which I launched using a multi-node openstack installation - Icehouse	02:47
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abhirc	I have user access to the openstack setup hence don;t have access to the Controller node. I am setting up the Network configuration and this is my question after creating a internal network , subnet , router - interface and gateway, when I hover over router , its says router_interface is Active and router_gateway is DOWN	02:50
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abhirc	I have not launched the instance yet , do I need to check my network settings at this stage ?	02:51
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abhirc	on the dashboard I can see that all the devices and floating ips attached to the external network are in DOWN status, might be an issue with the Neutron	03:06
abhirc	will dig more and get back with finer details .	03:07
kupo24z	abhirc: if your external gateway interface is status DOWN i think its normal	03:09
kupo24z	mine always has been, and it works fine	03:09
Sam-I-Am	ovs reports weird states for veth pairs iirc	03:09
kupo24z	admin state is UP, though	03:09
Sam-I-Am	abhirc: difficult to troubleshoot if you dont have cli access to each node	03:10
SamYaple	hello Sam-I-Am	03:10
Sam-I-Am	hi	03:11
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abhirc	Sam-I-Am: thanks , would it help to paste the log info generated while launching the vm	03:13
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Sam-I-Am	you can	03:15
Sam-I-Am	can you get a console to the vm?	03:16
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abhirc	yes I launched a Cirros VM	03:16
abhirc	and am able to log in	03:16
Sam-I-Am	but it has no ip?	03:17
abhirc	when I ping to it I am getting "Request Time Out error" which is better as previously I was not getting even this error	03:17
abhirc	I am doing a ping form my local machine	03:18
abhirc	I have attached a floating IP to it	03:18
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SamYaple	abhirc: when you log into the VM through the console, does the VM have an ip address?	03:18
SamYaple	`ip a`	03:18
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abhirc	on executing 'ip a' => eth0 shows " inet 192.168.200.4/24 brd 192.168.200.255 scope global eth0'	03:21
abhirc	apart from other info	03:21
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SamYaple	abhirc: just to confirm, 192.168.200.4 is the ip that nova says the instance should have, correct?	03:22
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abhirc	thats correct	03:22
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SamYaple	does your security group allow icmp?	03:23
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abhirc	Yes I have a rule : Ingress IPV4 ICMP - 0.0.0.0/0	03:24
SamYaple	abhirc: ok then you wouldn't have an issue. You just need to ping the instance through the dhcp namespace	03:26
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abhirc	SamYaple: Does that mean that I need to ping the floating ip address which is associated with the instance or some other IP	03:27
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abhirc	SamYaple: I am not very familiar with dhcp namespace	03:28
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abhirc	actually let me just link to the vm logfile which might be useful	03:31
abhirc	SamYaple:	03:32
abhirc	http://pastebin.com/au6W55uE	03:32
abhirc	SamYaple: http://pastebin.com/au6W55uE	03:32
abhirc	Sam-I-Am: if it helps http://pastebin.com/au6W55uE	03:33
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abhirc	SamYaple: As you advised I went back to the terminal and accessed the ssh gateway which was in the same dhcp namespace as my vm	03:41
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abhirc	Sam Yaple: I am able to ping to the vm's floating ip	03:41
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abhirc	SamYaple: thanks for pointing me to the right direction ! Appreciate it!	03:44
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abhirc	time to go back and read up more on Neutron Network Namespaces	03:46
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SaintAar`	ARGHH, I think I figured this out	04:05
Sam-I-Am	SaintAar`: oh?	04:05
SaintAar`	I was creating the network in the script that set up the controller node	04:05
SaintAar`	which ran before the network node was set up	04:06
Sam-I-Am	whoops	04:06
SaintAar`	so this time around, it was the qr interface for br-int that was 4095	04:06
SaintAar`	deleted that interface, recreated it and it's good	04:06
SaintAar`	headdesk	04:06
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Sam-I-Am	yay	04:09
Sam-I-Am	timing is everything	04:09
SamYaple	abhirc: Sorry about that, I stepped away.	04:09
SamYaple	abhirc: Yea if you have a floating ip you can hit that outside the namespace	04:09
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abhirc	SamYaple: Thats fine, I guess I need to ask the admin to check the network setup or tell me what I am doing wrong. I can ping the floating ip after logging into the ssh gateway but cannot do the same from my local machine	04:20
abhirc	could be a security thing !	04:21
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Raj_	Hi any one knw why this error : cinder.volume.manager attr = getattr(self._backend, key)	07:19
Raj_	cinder.volume.manager AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'replic ation_relationship_create'	07:19
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Raj_	cinder.volume.manager AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'replic ation_relationship_create'	07:20
Raj_	cinder.volume.manager AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'replic ation_relationship_create'	07:20
Raj_	after creating new table in db and then trying to access it	07:20
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Lehtu_	Hey, how can I change root password. Instances ssh-keypair does not work and root password is lost.. Can I somehow mount the disk and change the password or what is the recommended solution?	07:43
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KimiA__	Lehtu: easiest solution is just to launch new instance	07:51
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Lehtu	KimiA__: I'm afraid that is not a solution	07:53
KimiA__	Then which operating system your instance is running?	07:54
Lehtu	linux	07:54
KimiA__	which distribution? version?	07:54
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Lehtu	ubuntu 14.04 LTS	07:57
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KimiA	Then I'm afraid you will have hard time changing that password. Ubuntu does good work in preventing that	07:58
SamYaple	Lehtu: if you can mount the disk you just need to update /etc/shadow	07:58
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SamYaple	you know Lehtu, you might be able to just boot into runlevel 1 and change it. Though some of the new ones are requiring a password still for that	08:05
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KimiA	SamYaple: Ubuntu 14.04 does that. Systemd does not allow changing root pasword without knowing it. So basically only option I'm aware of is to mount the volume to some other OS, generate new password hash and modify /etc/shadow by hand	08:07
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SamYaple	KimiA: yea. you can mount the qcow2 and update the password by hand. its not hard	08:09
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lastmikoi	That's strange, I don't remember having to know my root password to change it under Centos7, which is also using Systemd	08:10
SamYaple	here is the python string I use t ogenearate the passwords (though you can also use mkpasswd)	08:10
SamYaple	python -c "import crypt, getpass, pwd; print crypt.crypt('password_goes_here', '\$6\$salt_goes_here\$')"	08:10
dgbaley	SamYaple: ah, that's nice to have. I would have chroot'd or set the passwd to blank in this situation	08:11
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KimiA	SamYaple: sure, mounting the gcow is not a problem if you can get access to it.	08:12
Lehtu	SamYaple: KimiA , yah thanks didn't know that qcow images can also be mounted. Fixed it. Thanks!	08:12
SamYaple	dgbaley: yea chroot'ing is the way to go. not go all cowboy editing on the shadow file	08:12
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Madkiss	What's a working method to have different hypervisor types in the same openstack cloud?	09:38
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SamYaple	Madkiss: cells/availablility-zones	09:44
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reinhardt1053	is it recommended to upgrade crmsh to 2.x on Ubuntu?	10:10
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openstacker1	Is it possible to run openstack without neutor?	10:31
openstacker1	Neutron	10:31
openstacker1	I installed using Devstack and it does not install neutron	10:31
openstacker1	But my instances are created fine and they can all ping each other	10:32
openstacker1	I want to setup a simple openstack env with very simple network	10:32
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openstacker1	Basically my VMs will join an existing network	10:32
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Madkiss	Is there a nova-docker package or ppa for Ubuntu 14.04 available somewhere?	13:20
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Raj_	nyone knw why this error is	13:21
Raj_	oslo.messaging.rpc.dispatcher DBError: (DataError) (1265, "Data truncated for column 'status' at row 1")	13:21
sld	Madkiss: to use docker as a backend similarly to LXC, or to run the service inside of a docker container?	13:21
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Guest95043	Anyone have a working implementation of OpenStack Juno, Xenserver, and Nuetron? Would love some assistance on how Nuetron is suppose to be configured on the DomU.	13:22
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sld	Raj_: did you do a db upgrade recently, or is that a new install, maybe a migration perhaps?	13:22
Raj_	sld: i added new table in it.	13:22
sld	Raj_: what kind of datatype are you using for that status column and what are trying to put into it?	13:23
Raj_	Enum	13:23
Raj_	sld: Enum type	13:23
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Madkiss	sld: the first	13:23
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sld	Madkiss: I don't know about a package/ppa then, but this might be of some use: https://github.com/stackforge/nova-docker	13:24
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Madkiss	oh well.	13:24
sld	Raj_: try reverting to prior to adding the new table, and see if the error still exists...there may be a problem with getting it to work together with what was already there.	13:24
Madkiss	i'll go build a package myself, then	13:25
sld	lol k.	13:25
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Raj_	sld: what happen if i am using Enum type	13:25
sld	Raj_: tbh, not sure... never done it myself... I just normally use defaults for all db/schema-related activities.	13:25
Raj_	ohk	13:25
Raj_	sld: one more problem	13:26
sld	there is always 'one more', when it comes to openstack. hehe ;)	13:26
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Raj_	sld: when i am trying for get by volume id for new table then	13:27
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Raj_	..the error like ... osl.sqlchemy.model.replction ...	13:29
Raj_	sld: like <cinder.db.sqlalchemy.models.ReplicationRelationship object at 0x3ae88d0>	13:29
Raj_	sld: when i m trying for del_vol = self.db.replication_relationship_get(ctxt, volid)	13:30
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sld	Raj_: Is this within a custom script/program of some sort that you are trying to create, that uses the APIs, or is this within one of the clients?	13:31
Raj_	sld: its my own script	13:31
Raj_	sld; an that table is added by me	13:32
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sld	My suggestion would be to look at where it is already implemented in a python client, like... python-cinderclient.	13:32
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Raj_	sld: no its not here ..	13:35
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sld	so you are creating new api methods?	13:36
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Raj_	sld; yes i am creating new apis	13:38
Raj_	hey that previous problem solved now	13:38
sld	k	13:38
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Raj_	sld: but that problem ..?	13:39
Raj_	sld: <cinder.db.sqlalchemy.models.ReplicationRelationship object at 0x3ae88d0>	13:40
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sld	I would see if someone in the cinder channel might have an idea.	13:45
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eacrocks	How do i disable neutron completely?	14:02
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eacrocks	I removed neutron-server, but it is still showing in the dashboard (Networks section(	14:02
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eacrocks	I want to use a simple nova-network installation	14:03
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sld	eacrocks: I don't think you can do that anymore, but not 100% sure.	14:08
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SamYaple	sld eacrocks I dont think you ever could disable that...	14:14
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SamYaple	not on horizon	14:14
eacrocks	I am using packstack and they do have an option to not install Neutron	14:14
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eacrocks	I have not tried that yet though	14:15
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SamYaple	right but Horizon never supported nova-network (i dont believe)	14:15
eacrocks	SamYaple: I tried it with devstack	14:16
eacrocks	And that uses nova-network only, horizon did not show the Network tab	14:16
jpich	Yes, Horizon does support nova network. If Neutron ('network' service) isn't in the Keystone catalogue, Horizon won't show the Networks section	14:16
eacrocks	But the networking feature worked	14:16
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jpich	eacrocks: If you had Neutron installed, make sure to remove the service and endpoints from the keystone catalogue, then log out and back in again into Horizon. I believe that should be enough	14:17
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eacrocks	jpich: does that disable all validation of having to add NIC when creating an instance?	14:18
eacrocks	With nova-network it does not show any networking option	14:18
eacrocks	But networking actually works internally	14:18
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jpich	eacrocks: I haven't used Horizon with nova network in a while but I think the networks options get removed from the Launch Instance, because they're specific to Neutron. I'd need to check though	14:20
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Tarbus	Hi there, I've been trying to get openstack to work with a simple flat network setup for over a month now. I install it fine, but cannot get the neutron part to work. I can't waste time on it anymore - I am willing to pay if someone could fresh install openstack for me.	14:24
Tarbus	Please let me know if anyone is interested. Thanks	14:24
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Tarbus	The setup is not for production and all I need is the ability for the VMs to join a existing physical network	14:27
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jkt	any idea why are my VMs not getting DHCPOFFERs? I already do have UDP checksumming in iptables, I'm using Grizzly on RHEL6, and from tcpdump, it seems that any DHCPOFFER which propagate through the vnet* interface are delayed by three minutes	16:23
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jkt	(using nova-network, FlatDHCP, multihost)	16:25
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visualne	Hello, has anyone successfully spanned all ports connected to br-int on openvswitch to some sort of IDS monitoring solution?	17:56
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jkt	so, FYI, the error appears to be related to our rsyslog setup which uses remote logging which appeared to be stuck, and dnsmasq by default was not using the --log-async option	18:02
jkt	that was so f*** hilarious to debug :]	18:02
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X123	lol	18:09
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X123	not nearly as bad as changing the IP in our ceph config and the whole box started stalling all tcp and couldn't make any new sockets	18:10
X123	for no apparent reason	18:10
X123	still haven't figure that out	18:11
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X123	(on the openstack controller too not the ceph node)	18:11
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X123	some bug with the new kernel	18:11
Sam-I-Am	X123: ew?	18:11
Sam-I-Am	i dont have ceph to test this	18:11
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Sam-I-Am	assuming it IS ceph thats the problem	18:12
Sam-I-Am	does it have a kernel module, or do anything funky with network settings?	18:12
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X123	well we changed the IP back	18:12
X123	and it stopped doing it	18:12
X123	i don't think ceph is the problem i think there's a bug somewhere in the kernel	18:12
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X123	at least temporarily it did	18:13
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X123	still having some slowness issues after 5-6 days uptime	18:13
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X123	but not as bad	18:14
jkt	but anyway, I cannot explain how it's possible that a simple `logger ping` succeeded at the time dnsmasq was busy logging its stuff	18:14
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jkt	maybe there's a per-client buffer within rsyslogd?	18:14
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X123	afaik ceph just a daemon that runs	18:14
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X123	jkt, it shouldn't really	18:14
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X123	one userspace program should not be able to consume all the resources of the server to prevent another one from working	18:15
X123	i'm seeing some weird issue like that with tcp	18:15
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jkt	X123: I agree with the attitude, I'm just seeing the mess	18:15
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X123	yeah i'm seeing a lot of strange weirdness with 3.13+	18:16
X123	kernel	18:16
X123	if u are using that	18:16
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Sam-I-Am	X123: did you go back to something like -34?	18:17
jkt	nope, this is RHEL6, which means 2.6.32 with a ton of backports to change it beyond recognition	18:17
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X123	i still have better luck with that kernel hahah	18:17
X123	sam, no the server people fixed it by reverting ceph	18:18
Sam-I-Am	fancy	18:18
X123	but i know that's not the REAL problem	18:18
Sam-I-Am	is there any known ceph issues?	18:18
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X123	Honestly i don't see how it can be ceph	18:19
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X123	i think it just triggered the problem sooner	18:19
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Sam-I-Am	X123: i think working on the networking guide gave me some form of ptsd lol	18:20
Sam-I-Am	X123: http://23.253.231.218/openstack-networking-guide/scenario-legacy-ovs/scenario-legacy-ovs.md	18:20
Sam-I-Am	just about got that done	18:20
Sam-I-Am	oddly, conventional neutron has even more crap in some of the diagrams than DVR	18:20
X123	how do i open that lol	18:20
Sam-I-Am	durr... i have 'markdown preview plus' in chrome	18:20
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X123	kek	18:21
X123	i don't use chrome :P	18:21
Sam-I-Am	X123: it'll render right when i upload it to github	18:21
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X123	so i get the open /save	18:21
X123	and nothing to open it with :)	18:21
Sam-I-Am	heh	18:21
Sam-I-Am	markdown is plain text, but you wont see the diagrams	18:22
X123	ah	18:22
X123	most of my 'documents' are in like markdown style	18:22
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X123	basically just text files lol	18:22
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X123	with a lot of ######	18:22
X123	and stuff	18:22
X123	one day i hope to have a database for all this	18:22
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X123	and i can click 'generate control plane acl lists'	18:22
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X123	or 'generate bgp policy for x'	18:23
Sam-I-Am	heh	18:23
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X123	i really feel for the engineers merging networks	18:23
X123	like GTT bought tinet, nlayer etc	18:23
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X123	trying to merge 3 ASN into one	18:23
Sam-I-Am	lol	18:24
Sam-I-Am	not it!	18:24
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X123	not a job i'd want to do haha	18:24
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Sam-I-Am	i think i've lost most of my isp wizardry at this point	18:24
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Sam-I-Am	havent touched bgp in a prod environment in about 4 years	18:24
Sam-I-Am	lab... maybe 2 years now.	18:24
X123	we had peer links and mpls to all 3 companies lol	18:24
X123	and seeing the issues randomly occurring	18:24
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X123	because of their merge, sometimes screwed our ports moving to other equipment etc	18:25
Sam-I-Am	i find its hard to keep a bunch of disparate skills sets up	18:25
X123	it is really	18:25
X123	i used to do everything	18:25
Sam-I-Am	but there's only a few folks that understand virtual networking	18:25
X123	support, server admin, networking, etc	18:25
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X123	is just too much	18:25
X123	now i just tell the 'server' guys to fix stuff	18:25
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X123	well you have to understand normal networking to understand virtual networking	18:26
Sam-I-Am	true	18:26
X123	there's no difference, it's just like a physical server vs a VM	18:26
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X123	no real difference in how it operates once you log in	18:26
Sam-I-Am	which is why its almost easier for network nerds to get into virtual networking... assuming they've used linux	18:26
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X123	but what's going on behind that is different	18:26
Sam-I-Am	namespaces are just vrfs	18:26
X123	exactly	18:26
Sam-I-Am	bridges are... bridges	18:26
Sam-I-Am	veth pairs are ethernet cables	18:27
X123	linux container = VDC	18:27
Sam-I-Am	all this goes into the networking guide at some point	18:27
X123	veth = internal ccc	18:27
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Sam-I-Am	pretty much	18:27
Sam-I-Am	or vll-local if you're brocade :)	18:28
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X123	in juniper speak veth is interface-switch, vlan-ccc or ethernet-ccc	18:28
Sam-I-Am	yeah	18:28
Sam-I-Am	i did some fun stuff with those once... like encapsulating a T1 over ethernet	18:28
X123	aha yeah	18:28
X123	cisco doesn't do that	18:29
X123	well it does but you have to hack it by looping it back to itself	18:29
mbeierl	Is there a built in method to start openstack instances on reboot of the compute node? Or at least reboot of the controller itself?	18:29
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X123	by running a cable on the front to another port lol	18:29
X123	mb, yeah it should do that automagically	18:29
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X123	oh u mean the actual VM's?	18:30
mbeierl	X123: nope. I have a series of VMs that are used for infrastructure and when the node reboots all instances are shown as powered off	18:30
mbeierl	X123: yes, the VMs	18:30
X123	ah thought u mean the zone or whatever	18:30
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X123	services to allow vm to start	18:30
mbeierl	X123: gotcha, no, that part does work	18:30
X123	i'm sure there's some way of doing it	18:30
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X123	i mean if the host powers off it can fire up the VM on another host right	18:31
mbeierl	I can boot in an rc.local or something to start the ones I want, but not sure if there is an official way to do that	18:31
X123	well technically they can start on any 'hypervisor'	18:31
X123	and not specific to that particular one	18:31
X123	unless there's only one i guess	18:32
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mbeierl	Sorry, the controller would attempt to start them if found to be down when the controller comes on line	18:32
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mbeierl	in my case, the critical ones also run on the controller, so it must be up at that point :)	18:32
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X123	so like auto start the instance if it's down	18:32
mbeierl	exactly	18:33
X123	if it can be started and something is available to start it on	18:33
mbeierl	yep	18:33
X123	that sounds like a feature every virtualization platform should have	18:33
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mbeierl	is that custom work, or is there a function for that already build in somewhere?	18:33
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X123	so logically i would assume there is a way to do it already	18:33
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mbeierl	it does. It is simple on vSpehere, (VMware) but I cannot find it in OpenStack/KVM	18:33
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X123	yeah i have the same problem :)	18:34
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X123	using vsphere makes sense, using openstack drives me crazy but company wants to use it	18:34
X123	but i'm just the network engineer :D	18:34
mbeierl	I hear ya	18:34
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X123	https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/5100/after-reboot-doesnt-run-guest/5110%3C/p%3E	18:36
mbeierl	Close enough: https://answers.launchpad.net/nova/+question/222747	18:36
mbeierl	finally found the right google terms	18:36
X123	lol did we paste the same thing :)	18:36
X123	seems there's a start_guests_on_boot	18:36
mbeierl	Yep!	18:36
X123	silly you have to edit a config file though	18:36
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X123	it should be a flag you put on each individual instance	18:37
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mbeierl	Agreed	18:37
X123	from reading my link, it sounds like it's a bit .. non optimal to use that	18:37
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X123	seems it's resume_guests_state now	18:38
X123	and the start guest on boot is removed	18:38
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X123	resume_guests_state_on_host_boot=true	18:38
X123	that's even better really as u don't want it booting ALL instances	18:38
mbeierl	Yes, I see why that would be	18:38
mbeierl	I know that I made my OS environment go quite mad one time when I tried to boot like 10 vms in rapid succession.	18:39
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X123	hehe i think they have a scheduler for that	18:39
X123	so it doesn't destroy the cpu all at once	18:39
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mbeierl	It didn't quite work the way I hoped...	18:39
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mbeierl	the scheduler and starting them all at once	18:40
mbeierl	I avoided that ever since	18:40
X123	hehe	18:40
X123	i hope they support live migration someday :)	18:40
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X123	that's an insanely cool piece of software coding	18:41
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X123	synching memory states and disk states with another vm across the network	18:41
X123	people who write that type of stuff have my respect hehe	18:41
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mbeierl	That's why vmware can charge the big bucks	18:42
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X123	xencenter does it too	18:43
X123	i think KVM supports it too	18:43
larsks	I think all of the well-supported hypervisors support live migration.	18:43
mbeierl	have you seen their fault-tolerant VMs? Where the cpu state/memory/etc are synchronized across two physical hypervisors	18:43
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larsks	Yeah.	18:43
X123	just not openstack yet	18:43
larsks	Openstack supports live-migration via the 'nova live-migration' command.	18:43
whytewolf	nova live_migrate does exist and functions	18:43
larsks	As long as the underlying hypervisor supports it.	18:43
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X123	so it'll use kvm to do it?	18:43
whytewolf	yes	18:44
X123	cool i never tried it on kvm	18:44
whytewolf	it has saved my ass a bunch of times and we use kvm hypervisor here	18:44
mbeierl	I think it does need shared storage attached, right?	18:44
X123	yeah	18:44
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mbeierl	as it won't move the disk from one box to the other	18:44
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X123	of course shared storage	18:44
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whytewolf	yes. but we use ceph as our backend so that is taken care of in spades	18:45
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X123	is it built into openstack API or just the cli	18:46
whytewolf	just the cli	18:46
X123	ah that's prob why i didn't thin it support it	18:47
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X123	our programmers made their own 'horizon'	18:47
X123	for using openstack api	18:47
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X123	they said it didn't support hehe	18:47
X123	but maybe we can script	18:47
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whytewolf	http://docs.openstack.org/api/openstack-compute/2/content/POST_os-migrateLive_v2__tenant_id__servers__server_id__action_.html	18:48
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whytewolf	I was wrong it is in the api	18:48
larsks	Of course it's the api :). The only way the command line clients have of interacting with openstack is via REST apis.	18:48
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larsks	If you add '--debug' to most of the command lines you can see exactly what api calls they are making.	18:48
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X123	well then why did they say they can't do it.. ugh	18:49
X123	:P	18:49
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whytewolf	I also forgot, it does block storage migration. so shared storage is not needed.	18:50
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X123	hmm there was some reason they said they couldn't do it	18:50
X123	ill have to go bug them again haha	18:50
larsks	X123: the relevant API reference is: http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-compute-v2-ext.html	18:51
X123	maybe that was for non kvm instances	18:51
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X123	not using kvm for everything :/	18:51
X123	ill go bug them again because i love live migration	18:52
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X123	wish some of my routers did that	18:52
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X123	they do in a way but still cost some convergence :/	18:53
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thumpba	how can i manage multiple nova environments from terminal	18:59
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thumpba	id like to be able to run nova list and see the info for all my openstack environments	18:59
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dgbaley	thumpba: do you mean completely distinct OpenStack installations? No I don't believe there's a way to do that. Without writing some of your own glue	19:03
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larsks	thumpba: I keep credentials for different environments in ~/.stack, and then use this script: http://chunk.io/f/8cca4e07d982450293bedc0c20c0e273	19:04
larsks	So I can write: stack env1 nova list	19:04
larsks	Or: stack env2 nova list	19:04
thumpba	dgbaley: yep i have multiple	19:04
larsks	So it's not an integrated view of multiple environments, but it's really easy to switch between them.	19:04
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thumpba	larsks: hmm ill have to look into that	19:05
larsks	thumpba: Also: https://github.com/major/supernova	19:05
larsks	Similar idea. Somewhat more complex implementation.	19:05
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thumpba	larsks: i saw that but wasnt sure if i could use it for non rackspace openstack	19:06
larsks	Sure.	19:06
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larsks	Well, I think :). I haven't used it because it seemed like a big hammer; I like my script :)	19:06
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X123	supernova! haha	19:12
X123	some reason i find that hilarious	19:12
lcurtis	if using physical vlans in neutron, does packet flow have to hit network node first, then compute node or will other hosts simply do layer2 directly to ovs bridge on compute node	19:12
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X123	it doesn't hit network node	19:13
lcurtis	X123: thank you	19:13
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X123	only if it requires l3 intervention like SNAT, or routing between two networks	19:13
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X123	yw	19:14
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lcurtis	running into issues using vlans	19:25
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lcurtis	with dhcp agent	19:25
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giorgis	hello....Can someone help me to set CEPH as Cinder backend?? The volumes are stack on "creating..."	19:25
lcurtis	looks like packet gets to network node on correct vlan on bond interface, but vlan info is stripped by time it makes it to br-vlan interface	19:26
lcurtis	any ideas?	19:26
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lcurtis	if i add bond0 to br-vlan via ovs-vsctl, never shows up	19:28
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lcurtis	if i do tcpdump on the tap interface, i get No such device exists (SIOCGIFHWADDR: No such device)	19:29
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Sam-I-Am	X123: this is more like it	19:30
Sam-I-Am	X123: https://github.com/ionosphere80/openstack-networking-guide/blob/master/scenario-legacy-ovs/scenario-legacy-ovs.md	19:30
Sam-I-Am	should render now	19:30
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scotti	hi	19:34
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bitblt	giorgis, anything in the logs?	19:35
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bitblt	giorgis, cinder-volume log	19:36
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giorgis	biblt, nothing useful....at least I can't see anuthing	19:40
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giorgis	biblt, nothing useful....at least I can't see anything	19:40
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giorgis	bitblt, nothing useful....at least I can't see anything	19:41
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bitblt	giorgis, what are the permissions on /etc/ceph/ceph.conf and your admin key in there too? on your cinder-volume node	19:44
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giorgis	bitblt, everything is owned by root with 644 permissions except ceph.client.cinder.keyring which is owned by cinder	19:46
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giorgis	bitblt, should I put anything else besides rbd_user and rbd_UUID in /etc/nova/nova.conf?	19:49
bitblt	giorgis, oh, if you are using this in nova you need to set the virsh secret too	19:49
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giorgis	bitblt, should I not use it?	19:50
giorgis	I did set virsh secret	19:51
giorgis	on the compute node only	19:51
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X123	Sam-I-Am ill check it out later :)	20:04
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giorgis	I have tried force delete and the volume was stuck at deleting	20:09
giorgis	now the status is "Error_Deleting"	20:09
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AerialSonik	anyone here	20:28
X123	just us chickens	20:28
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AerialSonik	Anyone know if DevStack includes Network section? I have DevStack installed, but dont see the network section or network tab.	20:35
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clarkb	AerialSonik: by default devstack installs nova network and not neutron iirc. You likely need to tell it to ues neutron to get horizon to show you network info?	20:37
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AerialSonik	Ok thank you clarkb!	20:38
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sk91	Hi,im installing openstack juno for Ubuntu 14.04 from ( http://docs.openstack.org/juno/install-guide/install/apt/content/swift-install-storage-node.html ),im using virtualization, and all my nodes are virtual machines (i.e i have one vm for controller node with ubuntu 14.04, same for compute1 node and for cinder object storage node),at the installing swift node parts, it refers to /dev/sdb and /dev/stc , doest it mean that i have to set up 2 virtual	20:41
sk91	machines with ubuntu on them one for /dev/sdb and one /dev/sdc? are those two separate object nodes ?	20:41
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nosleep77	hi there, what exactly does "nova list" supposed to do and if i see a blank output is that bad? the description "it lists servers" is very vague. I do see services under "nova service-list"	20:47
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whytewolf	nosleep77: 'nova list' by it's sel will list all the instences in the tenant that you authenticated against.	20:51
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nosleep77	whytewolf: I am actually trying to troubleshoot why I couldn't create volume > http://paste.openstack.org/show/159336/	20:51
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nosleep77	I see no valid host found	20:51
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whytewolf	okat, what does cinder service-list give?	20:53
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nosleep77	http://paste.openstack.org/show/159341/	20:54
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whytewolf	nosleep77: you have a sceduler. but no volumes	20:58
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nosleep77	whytewolf: yes	20:59
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nosleep77	whytewolf: i'm trying to create a volume	20:59
whytewolf	no, i mean you have no cinder-volume agents.	21:00
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whytewolf	http://docs.openstack.org/icehouse/install-guide/install/apt/content/cinder-node.html	21:01
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nosleep77	whytewolf: instead of lvm i'm using a ceph cluster and cinder-volume package is installed on a ceph client node	21:02
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whytewolf	okay, then you need to get it talking to the cinder-sceduler. so far it isn't communicating with cinder so cinder thinks it doesn't have any cinder-volume-agents	21:04
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nosleep77	any pointers?	21:06
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whytewolf	post the cinder.conf file from both the controller and the ceph client server	21:09
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whytewolf	[with out passwords of coarse]	21:10
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nosleep77	controller > http://paste.openstack.org/show/159348/	21:15
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nosleep77	ceph client > http://paste.openstack.org/show/159349/	21:15
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whytewolf	humm. odd the the ceph client doesn't have the ceph info in it.	21:18
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whytewolf	are you getting any errors in the cinder logs in the ceph client side?	21:19
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sk91	would u mind helping me with block storage (swift) partition table's details? what i understood is that swift got /dev/sda, /dev/sdb and /dev/sdc which all formats could be ex4 and /dev/sda is where node's os ( i.e ubuntu 14.04 ) is installed on	21:23
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nosleep77	whytewolf: yes > http://paste.openstack.org/show/159350/	21:23
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whytewolf	ahhh, that looks like it can't get to the sql database. firewall rule?	21:24
nosleep77	no firewalls	21:24
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whytewolf	can you connect to the database from the cinder box using the same username and password?	21:25
whytewolf	sorry from the ceph box	21:25
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nosleep77	whytewolf: no i can't. good catch. this is weird	21:27
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nosleep77	whytewolf: let me see if i can fix this	21:28
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whytewolf	alright	21:28
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AerialSonik	Ok I have added the neutron code to the local.conf file. So do I have to run the stack.sh file again for the changes to take affect?	21:30
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nosleep77	whytewolf: ok that is fixed but i'm seeing this now > http://paste.openstack.org/show/159357/	21:41
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whytewolf	that looks like it is using the wrong driver. put the ceph info into the cinder.conf on the ceph server also	21:42
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nosleep77	whytewolf: can you tell me which directives? I was following this > http://ceph.com/docs/next/rbd/rbd-openstack/	21:44
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whytewolf	i would say the smae info you have on the controller. everything under the "configuring cinder"	21:47
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giorgis	can someone pont where to look when a volume cannot be attached to an instance?	21:53
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giorgis	dashboard doesn't show any useful info	21:53
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nosleep77	whytewolf: awesome that looks better > http://paste.openstack.org/show/159358/	21:54
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whytewolf	very nice, does cinder service-list now show a cinder-volume item?	21:54
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nosleep77	whytewolf: not sure what happened but i'm getting auth failed http 500 doing any of the commands: cinder list, glance image-list etc.	22:01
nosleep77	whytewolf: nvm i got it	22:01
whytewolf	lol, ok	22:01
nosleep77	one sec let me check. its a mysql problem	22:01
nosleep77	lol	22:01
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nosleep77	whytewolf: yay http://paste.openstack.org/show/159361/	22:06
nosleep77	shows scheduler as down though	22:06
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giorgis	how can I find out the instance-id of a VM?	22:08
whytewolf	humm, the sceduler being down is not good. check the controllers logs to see if something went wrong there	22:09
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whytewolf	might have lost connectivity when you had mysql problems. so you might just have to restart it	22:10
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GLaupre	Hello all. My question: the admin choose to use neutron instead of nova-network in its deployment. Where/in which file(s) nova API knows to redirect the calls to this nova-network API or neutron API? I don't find that. Thank you :)	22:16
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Greg_	not sure if this is the right channel, but I am having an issue with cinder (juno release) on Centos 7	22:17
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Greg_	OperationalError: (OperationalError) (1045, "Access denied for user 'cinder'@'localhost' (using password: YES)") None None	22:18
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nosleep77	whytewolf: woohoo ... its fixed. Thank you very much sir!	22:20
nosleep77	whytewolf: good learning for today :D	22:21
whytewolf	nosleep77: no problem. glad it is working for you	22:21
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giorgis	any ideas about this: libvirtError: internal error unable to execute QEMU command '__com.redhat_drive_add': Device 'drive-virtio-disk1' could not be initialized	22:23
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giorgis	I am trying to attach a cinder volume from CEPH to an OpenStack instance	22:24
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dobbobbs	if i'm using nova-network and setting up flatdhcp, can i use just the single network i'm attached too? eg i have a subnet in a vlan. dnsmasq tries to listen on the first available ip in the subnet	22:25
dobbobbs	not sure if i need another net?	22:25
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Greg_	whoops my mistake, had the mysql statement under [default] and not [database]	22:28
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dobbobbs	if i set options in dnsmasq.conf, shouldn't that override what nova-dhcpbridge tries using? (eg listen interface)	22:58
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dobbobbs	or even turn off bind-interfaces	22:58
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giorgis	My compute.log shows: ERROR nova.virt.libvirt.driver [-] Getting disk size of instance-000000cb: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/var/lib/nova/instances/ea305736-fbe7-4851-a637-da6813ffa9bb/disk	23:05
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giorgis	since the instance no longer exists	23:05
giorgis	what to do to stop this message appearing over and over again?	23:05
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dobbobbs	giorgis, does it show up in nova list?	23:20
giorgis	how can I get nova to show instances ID?	23:20
GLaupre	nova list	23:20
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giorgis	that show the complete ID as 33be1a0c-ac37-475b-b4fc-0da5e26679c0	23:21
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giorgis	or something similar and not instance-000000ca	23:21
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giorgis	from what I have understand the first VM is instance-0000001	23:21
GLaupre	./var/lib/nova/instances/ea305736-fbe7-4851-a637-da6813ffa9bb/disk	23:21
GLaupre	your instance is ea305736-fbe7-4851-a637-da6813ffa9bb	23:22
giorgis	ok...	23:22
GLaupre	that's why you have a No such file or directory	23:22
GLaupre	your try to seek for instance-000000cb	23:22
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giorgis	no it's not shown on nova list	23:22
giorgis	ea305....	23:23
giorgis	is not ther	23:23
GLaupre	are you on the correct tenena	23:23
GLaupre	are you using devstack?	23:23
giorgis	not devstack	23:23
giorgis	I have used the --all-tenants flag	23:23
GLaupre	source the correct project (demo, admin, your_user)	23:23
giorgis	and it's not there	23:24
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giorgis	--all-tenants shows all VMs irrispectively of the sourced project	23:24
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giorgis	but still the ea305736 is not here	23:24
GLaupre	Have you horizon installed?	23:24
giorgis	yes	23:24
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GLaupre	do you see your instance in there?	23:25
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giorgis	no...	23:25
GLaupre	check on the top of your dashboard, what project do you have?	23:25
GLaupre	demo, admin, or something else?	23:26
giorgis	admin	23:26
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giorgis	logged in as admin	23:26
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giorgis	on project available only	23:26
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giorgis	*on=one	23:27
GLaupre	I don't remember the correct command, but try to verify if you are on the right project in your CLI.	23:27
giorgis	I have used --all-tenants in the past	23:27
giorgis	if you do that as admin	23:27
GLaupre	mmmh	23:27
giorgis	it shows everything	23:27
giorgis	from all tenants :)	23:27
giorgis	but that instance doesn't show up	23:28
giorgis	I guess that it was not properly terminated	23:28
giorgis	and the entry is still there....	23:28
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GLaupre	I guess if you don't see it neither in your dashboard nor using "nova list" I guess the instance is not there	23:32
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GLaupre	Did you reboot the compute host?	23:32
giorgis	yes! that's what I think too	23:32
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giorgis	I did...both the controller and the compute node	23:32
GLaupre	!!	23:32
openstack	GLaupre: Error: "!" is not a valid command.	23:33
GLaupre	SO	23:33
GLaupre	:)	23:33
GLaupre	your instances won't restart	23:33
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giorgis	it's not really a problem	23:33
GLaupre	except if you tell them so	23:33
giorgis	since I don't care about that	23:33
giorgis	instance	23:33
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giorgis	but it's bugging me	23:33
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giorgis	to watch this error over and over again in the logs	23:33
GLaupre	if your reboot your compute node, the instances hosted in this one won't restart automatically	23:34
GLaupre	Actually there are destroyed	23:34
giorgis	they should be...but they have been stucked somewhere	23:34
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GLaupre	maybe continue your investigation and post something on ask.openstack :) Maybe someone already asked that question	23:35
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giorgis	GLaupre, I will ...Thx for your help	23:38
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dneary	Hi	23:38
dneary	Anyone here got OpenDaylight Helium working as a provider for OpenStack Neutron Juno?	23:39
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dneary	I've got an error (OpendaylightAuthError: Failed to authenticate with OpenDaylight: 401 Client Error: Unauthorized) in the Neutron logs (neutron.plugins.ml2.managers)	23:39
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terje___	I don't but that sounds pretty cool	23:40
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terje	I have an ovs question..	23:41
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terje	is the 'tag' shown by ovs-vsctl show on my compute node supposed to match the 'segmentation_id' in neutron net-show <uuid> ?	23:42
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GLaupre	nop	23:42
dneary	terje, I don't think they're the same thing	23:42
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giorgis	GLaupre, I cannot write at the pm	23:42
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GLaupre	the segmention_id will follow what you use as range for your vxlan, nvgre, vlan	23:43
giorgis	I get "Can't use this command in this window"	23:43
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giorgis	GLaupre, whatever I type	23:44
giorgis	shows that...	23:44
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terje	what does the 'tag' in ovs-vsctl represent then I wonder?	23:46
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chlong	open vswitch virtual switch control maybe?	23:47
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Sam-I-Am	terje: tag is the internal vlan id that ovs uses	23:48
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terje	which != segmentation_id on the network?	23:48
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Sam-I-Am	segmentation id is the id of the network. if its a vlan network, its the vlan id.	23:49
Sam-I-Am	openvswitch does its own thing with vlans internally	23:49
giorgis	GLaupre (and rest), I have found a way to clean it...just check here: https://answers.launchpad.net/nova/+question/229581	23:49
Sam-I-Am	which makes it particulatly confusing	23:49
terje	ok, thanks Sam-I-Am. I can see that in my setup but yea, it's confusing.	23:49
Sam-I-Am	terje: read this - https://github.com/ionosphere80/openstack-networking-guide/blob/master/scenario-legacy-ovs/scenario-legacy-ovs.md	23:49
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terje	dude	23:53
terje	that's an epic post.. I'll try. :)	23:53
Sam-I-Am	hmm?	23:53
Sam-I-Am	yeah, its the content that will eventually become the networking guide on docs.openstack.org	23:53
Sam-I-Am	but since thats not ready yet...	23:53
terje	did you write it?	23:53
Sam-I-Am	yes	23:53
Sam-I-Am	i also wrote the DVR content	23:54
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Sam-I-Am	and soon, the classic neutron stuff but with linuxbridge instead of openvswitch	23:54
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terje	amazing, I'm starting on it now.	23:54
terje	actually	23:55
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terje	I have a question	23:55
Sam-I-Am	its been needed for a while, imho	23:55
terje	before I get started..	23:55
terje	which is why all this came up for me	23:55
terje	I create 10 networks	23:55
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terje	then, I start 60 VM's, each with an interface on all ten	23:55
terje	out of the 600 vnic's	23:56
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terje	10 or so never get an IP via dnsmasq/dhcp	23:56
terje	upon furthur investigation, it looks like the ports are programmed on the wrong vlan's.	23:56
terje	ring any bells?	23:56
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Sam-I-Am	is this juno? what type of tenant networks?	23:57
terje	this is Icehouse (which I know isn't being developed)	23:57
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terje	this is vlan+ovs	23:57
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Sam-I-Am	could be a bug in neutron	23:58
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Sam-I-Am	there's a lot of race conditions for mass launching	23:58
Sam-I-Am	and other timing issues	23:58
terje	if I tcpdump, I see the broadcasts from the mac's tagged with incorrect VLAN's	23:58
terje	so yea, probably what you just said.	23:59
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