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| linforpros | Hi, I am running an AllinOne RDO version on one host. i would like to see how the system will behave if I start messing around with config files. Question: is my nova.conf active? "openstack-status" says nova-network inactive (disabled on boot).... | 01:10 |
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| linforpros | Does it mean that to start experimenting with networking I should only look at plugin.ini in neutron? | 01:12 |
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| jasonsb | linforpros: are you using neutron? | 01:43 |
| linforpros | yes, it is running | 01:44 |
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| linforpros | I would like to learn if tenant network can be set at vxlan, and provider network "flat". | 01:45 |
| linforpros | Which config files to edit? | 01:45 |
| linforpros | This is an RDO with nova-docker (if it is of relevance) | 01:46 |
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| linforpros | Also how to learn if I ma using LinuxBridge on this box or is it openvswitch? | 01:47 |
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| linforpros | I can see br-ex and enp5s0. they are not glued togather. Should I use brctl or ovs-vsctl? | 01:56 |
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| jasonsb | linforpros: which version of openstack? | 02:01 |
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| linforpros | It is Juno-1, jasonsb. "ovs-vsctl show" is if fact showing as belonging perhaps to openvswitch. | 02:01 |
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| jasonsb | yes if ovs-vsctl show works then you are definitely using openvswitch | 02:01 |
| linforpros | I just found out that neutron/plugin.ini is a simlink to ml2 plugin config file. I doing some progress here. | 02:02 |
| jasonsb | so with neutron you can mix and match your layer 2 thingies | 02:02 |
| jasonsb | plugins/ml2/ml2_conf.ini | 02:02 |
| jasonsb | just broke my juno | 02:02 |
| jasonsb | so i only have icehouse in front of me | 02:02 |
| jasonsb | but should be same i tink | 02:03 |
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| jasonsb | i would ignore plugin.ini | 02:04 |
| jasonsb | it is a havana thing | 02:04 |
| jasonsb | it went away with icehouse but some distros didn't clean up | 02:04 |
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| jasonsb | in general, you can play around with ml2_conf.ini | 02:05 |
| jasonsb | setup different stuff for tenant networks etc | 02:05 |
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| jasonsb | you can also add stuff there for definining multiple provider networks and their bridges | 02:05 |
| linforpros | jasonsb: My setup is an allinone. cable-modem - simple_router - openstack(allinone). So I would like to make it a work like this: privider network: flat, tenant network: vxlan. Is si doable in my case? | 02:06 |
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| jasonsb | certainly | 02:06 |
| jasonsb | if ovs-vsctl shows br-ex you can see if your external connection nic is in there | 02:07 |
| jasonsb | if not you can add it | 02:07 |
| linforpros | Where do am I supposed to set provider network, is it brigde_mapping = value? | 02:07 |
| jasonsb | then just change your tenant network to vxlan | 02:07 |
| jasonsb | bridge_mapping works fine | 02:07 |
| jasonsb | you can set mulitple provider stuff in there | 02:07 |
| jasonsb | but you can just put the single provider network and restart your l3 agent | 02:08 |
| jasonsb | also make sure to restart neutron server | 02:08 |
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| jasonsb | but take my comments with a little bit of grain of salt | 02:08 |
| jasonsb | i've never used rdo | 02:08 |
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| linforpros | jasonsb: say I will configure br-ex to include ent5s0 (external interface), should I also edit any files? | 02:10 |
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| jasonsb | dont think so | 02:12 |
| jasonsb | but i woudl recommend one thing | 02:12 |
| jasonsb | move the ip address setting from ent5s0 to br-ex | 02:13 |
| jasonsb | that way the ip connectivity will work like you expect | 02:13 |
| jasonsb | openvswitch follows linux bridge semantics for that stuff | 02:13 |
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| jasonsb | which means an interface in a bridge loses its address | 02:13 |
| linforpros | i get that. | 02:14 |
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| linforpros | In other words, vxlan can work independent of the fact that br-ex has enp5s0 in it. How to I specify that br-ex is a "flat" provider network? | 02:16 |
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| jasonsb | yes, vxlan is independent from the provider networks | 02:24 |
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| jasonsb | you can switch back and forth between vlan/gre/vxlan | 02:24 |
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| jasonsb | maybe this is helpful: http://funcptr.net/2014/09/29/neutron-l3-agent-with-multiple-provider-networks/ | 02:25 |
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| jasonsb | apologies if it has icehouse info in it | 02:26 |
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| dhorn | Got a quick question. I'm new to OpenStack, but am interested in the Mirantis/Fuel tools to deploy/manage it. I'm looking to do a 3 node environment, and am wondering if I can run the Controller, Compute, and Ceph services on the same nodes. I.E., run all 3 on 3 separate hosts (with 8 OSD's per node), for a HA setup. | 02:48 |
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| twenty20 | I tying to setup openstack on 2 nodes. compute node and everything else on another. I'm able to create an all-in-one with vlan networking, but when I setup the compute node I cant seem to get any network connectivity though the VM does spawn. I installed openstack-nova-compute, openvswitch, openstack-neutron-openvswitch are these packages enough on the compute node to the VMs network? What am I missing? nova.conf http://p | 02:57 |
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| linforpros | did you follow this https://openstack.redhat.com/Adding_a_compute_node OR perhaps you took a differnt path? Just curiosity. | 03:01 |
| twenty20 | all was done manually. | 03:02 |
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| jasonsb | twenty20: start checking the basics | 03:21 |
| jasonsb | twenty20: you can gain a lot of confidence just by checking a few things | 03:21 |
| jasonsb | twenty20: ie: ip netns list | 03:21 |
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| jasonsb | twenty20: and check out to see if your netowrking is working fine. then you can check VM | 03:22 |
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| jasonsb | dhorn: i'm not familiar with fuel | 03:24 |
| jasonsb | dhorn: but in general you can run anything whereever you want to | 03:25 |
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| jasonsb | dhorn: except it has implications for the l3 router pieces | 03:25 |
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| dhorn | jasonsb: Thanks for the info. I'm not going to be using Neutron, only Nova, for as long as I can. I wasn't aware that I could run any component anywhere, so thanks for clearing that up. | 04:30 |
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| SamYaple | dhorn: yea you can run all the services anywhere for the service point of view. From a deployment tool point of view it may not let you, you would need to check. And keep in mind ceph strongly discourages running MONs on the same host as OSDs, and running the compute component on the same host as your APIs and other services is also a very bad idea | 04:35 |
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| dhorn | SamYaple: Shucks. I've heard that MONs and OSDs are recommended to be separate, but it should work on the same box. I'm not all that familiar with OpenStack, which is where my uncertainty lies, currently. I was originally considering OpenNebula + Ceph, but still waiting on hardware to test with. | 04:37 |
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| SamYaple | dhorn: with the ceph thing, you would be alright. I wouldn't run it in production. As for running compute on one box, if you have an instance that is using alot of cpu you could break your environment, thats bad | 04:38 |
| SamYaple | you just have to be careful | 04:39 |
| SamYaple | for testing, should be fine. Don't put it into production is my advice | 04:39 |
| dhorn | SamYaple: It's mostly going to be a dev environment. No production workloads will ever be on it, and the workloads that are on it will be anything but CPU intensive. | 04:39 |
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| SamYaple | dhorn: cool. yea we are all bound by resources, have to make due with what you have. just be mindful of the pitfalls! | 04:40 |
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| jasonsb | SamYaple: did you say the other day that dvr was having teething pains? | 06:04 |
| jasonsb | is it just around fip? | 06:04 |
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| SamYaple | jasonsb: its around alot of things, architecture included | 06:06 |
| SamYaple | but its getting there | 06:06 |
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| jasonsb | architecture too? | 06:06 |
| jasonsb | i haven't been paying attention i guess | 06:07 |
| jasonsb | i was hoping to use it soon | 06:07 |
| jasonsb | but i haven't done much testing yet. so many other ducks to line up too | 06:07 |
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| jasonsb | SamYaple: thanks for hte heads up. i'll start tracking it closer | 06:08 |
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| anand_ts | hello all, my openstack VM can't connect to internet. I can reach till virtual router. Any help is appreciated | 07:13 |
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| qntm | anand_ts: read this - http://docs.openstack.org/openstack-ops/content/network_troubleshooting.html | 07:19 |
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| anand_ts | qntm thanks. Cheking this | 07:20 |
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| qntm | Hi all! What backend u use for snapshot and for block storage backup ? | 07:26 |
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| naggappan | @anand_ts : you have to enable post routing in IP tables | 07:29 |
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| naggappan | anand_ts: check : https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/44266/connect-vm-in-devstack-to-external-network/ | 07:29 |
| naggappan | anand_ts: "sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE" | 07:30 |
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| Mickey_ | any cracks online? could need a little help | 07:57 |
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| Mickey_ | how many server would i need to install swift, horizon and identity only ... to move docker container between swift, amazon and google? | 08:00 |
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| Mickey_ | how many server are recommended to install swift, horizon and identity only ... to move docker container between swift, amazon and google? | 08:05 |
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| SamYaple | Mickey_: recommend? 9 servers. 2 to make keystone and horizon HA, 2 for the swift proxy in HA, 5 for the swift backend. | 08:14 |
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| SamYaple | But you can get away with one node running that all | 08:14 |
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| SamYaple | depends on what you need | 08:14 |
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| SamYaple | also, with Horizon you are going to have to modify it since it doesnt support standalone swift without tweaking it | 08:15 |
| * SamYaple would not recommend using swift through horizon | 08:15 | |
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| Mickey_ | SamYaple: HI, and for less than 9 servers? its for produktive use i mean can i pack keystone and horizon on a xenserver? | 08:16 |
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| Mickey_ | but as i saw it is guided in the official installation guide how to set up swift horizon and keystone alone on ubuntu | 08:17 |
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| SamYaple | as I said, you can do this all on a single node. | 08:17 |
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| SamYaple | Mickey_: its been a while since I looked at it, but to get horizon to work with only swift required disabling panes | 08:18 |
| Mickey_ | but that wouldnt be productive? | 08:18 |
| SamYaple | ? | 08:19 |
| Mickey_ | so what would u reccomend on lower amount of servers to install? | 08:20 |
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| SamYaple | as I said, you can do this all on a single node | 08:20 |
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| Mickey_ | sry have daily scrum with work ... back in a min | 08:20 |
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| X-Rob | Spammer in channel, pask811 | 08:21 |
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| Mickey_ | SamYaple: Thank you very much for your help! :) u know what i should take care of at installing all of this on a single node? | 08:29 |
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| ByteSore | Hi guys | 08:50 |
| ByteSore | i installed OpenStack with DVR and VXLAN, issue now is; i can't reach any instances over my public network. | 08:50 |
| ByteSore | i debugged the vxlan tunnels and they are up and pingable | 08:50 |
| ByteSore | i can reach the qbr interfaces but i dont see any data comming out on the tap interfaces | 08:50 |
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| SamYaple | ByteSore: if you see the traffic up to the qbr interface but not on the tap device, that means it is getting dropped by iptables | 08:53 |
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| SamYaple | what do your security groups look like? | 08:53 |
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| ByteSore | SamYaple: right now i'm using the default security group | 08:54 |
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| ByteSore | that's the allow all to all on all | 08:54 |
| SamYaple | yea, thats minomer, the default security group is modifyable and does NOT by default allow all all all | 08:55 |
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| SamYaple | you can look at the iptable rules to see which rule is dropping the traffic | 08:56 |
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| ByteSore | ok, i did do that last week.. and i bumped into a rule which drops it.. i'll see if i can find it again | 08:58 |
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| cooldharma06 | hi all.. | 09:04 |
| cooldharma06 | i am having small in openstack swift? | 09:04 |
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| cooldharma06 | http://docs.openstack.org/api/openstack-object-storage/1.0/content/static-website.html | 09:08 |
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| cooldharma06 | by this i can deliver a static website through the swift if i want to store some video files and deliver means shall it will work? | 09:09 |
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| SamYaple | cooldharma06: sure it can work. "static" is saying that no backend code can execute. On the client side you can do whatever you want | 09:19 |
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| SamYaple | swift supports reading byte ranges, but not some other methods of streaming, so be careful | 09:20 |
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| cooldharma06 | for example like this:ip:port/container/video.mp4 if i do in browser will i get that one? | 09:21 |
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| cooldharma06 | oh streaming i cant do ah. if i want to do streaming how i can do with swift? | 09:22 |
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| SamYaple | cooldharma06: well thats just going todowload the file. The browser may be able to play it while downloading, but t oswift it is still just downloading | 09:22 |
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| SamYaple | you _can_ stream, but it has to be done by requesting byte ranges which not all methods of streaming do | 09:23 |
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| cooldharma06 | oh ok thanks SamYaple i ll try that one and ping here if any help needs | 09:31 |
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| ByteSore | SamYaple: when i check the show-port with neutron of a floating ip i'm seeing: binding:vif_type | unbound is this correct? | 09:46 |
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| Raj_ | Hi | 10:37 |
| Raj_ | all | 10:37 |
| Raj_ | is it possibble to add the new button or item ot link to do some task on controller by single click ..??? | 10:38 |
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| ByteSore | SamYaple: all packets end up in the fallback chain | 10:43 |
| ByteSore | Chain neutron-openvswi-sg-fallback (8 references) | inet 10.148.120.17/23 brd 10.148.121.255 scope global bond0.300 pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination | inet 10.148.121.246/23 brd 10.148.121.255 scope global secondary bond0.300:1 | 10:43 |
| ByteSore | 3132 145K DROP all -- * * 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.0/0 | 10:43 |
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| ByteSore | oh, bogus.. tmux is screwing up my copy / paste :) | 10:43 |
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| SamYaple | ByteSore: yea so your rules arent matching any of the packets | 11:09 |
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| SamYaple | you should probably check your security group | 11:09 |
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| Raj_ | SamYaple :is it possible to see the code of kilo or drivers going to be kilo release ..??? | 11:14 |
| Raj_ | any one having link to latest code of cinder drivers which going to be in kilo release ..???? | 11:14 |
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| SamYaple | Raj_ https://github.com/openstack/cinder | 11:15 |
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| SamYaple | That will have the official drivers, not third party | 11:15 |
| Raj_ | SamYaple: this is having lates code for kilo | 11:16 |
| SamYaple | yes | 11:16 |
| Raj_ | ohk | 11:16 |
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| ByteSore | i'll have a look.. i'll set up a new sec group to test.. | 11:25 |
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| monk | so i lost my home partition, is there anything in /home that would affect openstack? | 11:36 |
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| SamYaple | monk: maybe ssh keys to allow nova migrate, but thats configurable so maybe not | 11:39 |
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| monk | cool | 11:41 |
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| monk | SamYaple: if I resized the root partition to accomodate more VMs how do I get openstack to see this? | 11:44 |
| SamYaple | monk: i can't remember how it tracks those stats, it _should_ query the filesystem for space. but the stats are deceiving things even whe they are working correctly | 11:46 |
| SamYaple | restart nova-compute service to see if it pulls in the changes | 11:46 |
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| monk | cool | 11:47 |
| monk | SamYaple: i no longer have a contoller hypervisor | 11:48 |
| monk | :/ | 11:48 |
| SamYaple | ? | 11:49 |
| monk | under hypervisors > Controller > nothing | 11:49 |
| monk | i see compute but not the contoller | 11:49 |
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| SamYaple | "controller" should be listed under the hypervisor unless you are running nova-compute on there | 11:49 |
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| Mickey_ | hey, me again ... i just installed devstack on my server ... i can reach horizon over the web, but now im asking me, where can i check if swift has been installed | 12:00 |
| vkmc | Mickey_, hey there! are you using DevStack? | 12:02 |
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| Mickey_ | yep | 12:02 |
| vkmc | Mickey_, if so, check if Swift is enabled in the local.conf file | 12:02 |
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| vkmc | Mickey_, also, you should be able to manage containers through the dashboard if Swift is running | 12:02 |
| Mickey_ | the local.conf file have somehow been deleted at the installation process <.< ... i went to the devstack directory where it should have been, but there is only the .localrc.auto | 12:03 |
| Mickey_ | and in that file are only my given passwords | 12:03 |
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| vkmc | Mickey_, copy the local.conf sample from samples/ and replace the passwords with yours | 12:04 |
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| Mickey_ | seems like it doesnt. -.- i went to the systeminformation on the dashboard. there are services listed like nova, cinder, s3, glance, heat, cinder, ex2 and keystone | 12:05 |
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| Mickey_ | the sample isnt available also <.< | 12:05 |
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| Mickey_ | i took the sample and uncommented the proposed milestone swift | 12:06 |
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| Mickey_ | i thought that would do it | 12:06 |
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| Mickey_ | i download the devstack package with the local.conf again ... if i do this, what next? | 12:08 |
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| vkmc | Mickey_, so you have to add these lines http://paste.openstack.org/show/169877/ | 12:08 |
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| vkmc | Mickey_, make sure to ./unstack.sh and ./stack.sh again | 12:09 |
| Mickey_ | these lines where already included previously. <.< | 12:09 |
| Mickey_ | ok | 12:09 |
| Mickey_ | i tried it :) | 12:09 |
| Mickey_ | try* | 12:09 |
| Mickey_ | thx again vkmc! youre ma hero | 12:10 |
| vkmc | Mickey_, np... hope it works | 12:10 |
| Mickey_ | i just reached a milestone by reaching the dashboard ... so i think that might work somehow :) | 12:10 |
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| vkmc | also, if you are able to run in the terminal 'swift -h', then its working :) | 12:11 |
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| vkmc | well, at least... installed | 12:11 |
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| Mickey_ | vkmc, while u are here, what would you recommend for a low amount of servers to run swift, horizon and keystone? i mean i know that 9 would be recommended, but what if i have dont have 9 available for productive use | 12:14 |
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| vkmc | Mickey_, hmm... it depends on your needs... I mean, the loads you are going to manage | 12:17 |
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| vkmc | Mickey_, check out the OpenStack Operations Guide, there are some example architectures that may fit your needs http://docs.openstack.org/openstack-ops/content/architecture.html | 12:18 |
| Mickey_ | thx ma hero :) | 12:19 |
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| Lehtu | Any good guides how to make own cloud image? | 12:44 |
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| Gala-G | is there any source to learn from scratch openstack | 13:01 |
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| Gala-G | is there any source to learn from scratch openstack ? | 13:03 |
| Gala-G | anybody know some great source for learning Openstack ? | 13:03 |
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| SamYaple | Gala-G: docs.openstack.org | 13:05 |
| SamYaple | You can follow one of the install guides | 13:05 |
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| francois_ | hi, anyone knows why the createBackup api call in nova doesn't return anything? | 13:09 |
| francois_ | it makes it difficult to monitor the state of the backup because the glance image id is not known | 13:10 |
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| francois_ | perhaps, i'm just missing something obvious? | 13:10 |
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| ByteSore | SamYaple: got it working man | 13:43 |
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| ByteSore | it's an user-error (as in my fault) | 13:45 |
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| ByteSore | i didn't know i had to install the neutron-dhcp-agent on the compute nodes.. | 13:46 |
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| ByteSore | after i removed all the bridges and reconfigured the openvswitch config i found out that the instances didn't get a ip address.. so with a bit of trial and error.. :) | 13:47 |
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| rbowen | FYI: eglynn will be presenting a hangout on what's coming in Kilo in Ceilometer, in about 15 minutes, at https://plus.google.com/events/cht3k5nr5u73pv3d08i7vq5m570 | 13:48 |
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| Tibaza | @libsysguy Here you go http://paste.openstack.org/show/169969/ | 14:22 |
| Tibaza | @jf2010 There are a few tweaks to nova.conf on the compute node but all my glance services etc are installed on the controller... | 14:23 |
| Tibaza | (per ubuntu installation guide) | 14:23 |
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| Tibaza | Question for the team... I am setting up a second region in Juno. Do I need to add a service for each region using the --os-region-name in the create service command or use common services for both regions. Right now my experiment was just creating unique endpoints but once done nova, neutron etc are common to both regions which suggests that I need unique services too. | 14:24 |
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| ccard | I'm having a problem importing a keypair into OpenStack through horizon. Horizon gives the error "Unable to import key pair" and turning on debug logging for nova I see "Keypair data is invalid: failed to generated fingerprint" in the nova-api.log. However, I can import the keypair successfully using the nova keypair-add --pub-key <file> <name> command.I only get this error when I use horizon in Windows (under Chrome), it works fine when I use horizon on | 14:41 |
| ccard | my Linux desktop (also Chrome) | 14:41 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ccard: probably an issue with carriage returns somewhere in the key | 15:06 |
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| ccard | Sam-I-Am: my first thought too, but I can't see anything - the key is just a single line "ssh-rsa ....." | 15:23 |
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| Billias | Hey, I am installing the Openstack Kilo | 15:27 |
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| Billias | and neutron seems to some db complains | 15:27 |
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| Billias | a pastebin of it: http://pastebin.com/WgkMN7Ni | 15:27 |
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| Billias | DB is populated based on upgrade juno instead of kilo (As it doesn't recognise it) | 15:28 |
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| Billias | anybody ? | 15:31 |
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| Sam-I-Am | Billias: there is no kilo tag yet | 15:47 |
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| Sam-I-Am | Billias: but there are pre-kilo tags | 15:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | you need to do 'upgrade head' | 15:47 |
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| Billias | ok | 15:49 |
| Billias | upgrade head! thnx | 15:49 |
| Billias | cause a field is missing | 15:49 |
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| jlvillal | Is there an IRC channel for devstack? I looked here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/IRC but did not find anything with 'devstack' :( | 16:20 |
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| cucumber_ | Hi everyone | 16:26 |
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| cucumber_ | quick question.. I'm inside horizon and I want to know how much disk has Cinder available. Where can I see that? I can see how much disk has nova-compute available, but I want to know how mucha has Cinder. | 16:27 |
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| Tibaza | @cucumber this is not possible via the api or ui | 16:29 |
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| Tibaza | I've been trying to find this myself. | 16:29 |
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| cucumber_ | Tibaza, Oh.. and how can I do it thru the cli? | 16:30 |
| cucumber_ | Tibaza, that's weird... | 16:30 |
| Tibaza | you have to log into the cinder node and use the linux df command | 16:30 |
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| einarr | or vgdisplay, depending on how cinder is setup. | 16:32 |
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| cucumber_ | einarr, what is this vgdisplay thing? never heard of it | 16:32 |
| Tibaza | it is backend specific | 16:33 |
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| Tibaza | lvm volume group | 16:33 |
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| cucumber_ | Tibaza, so basically there is nothing from openstack to look at it.. you've to do it directly with the OS | 16:33 |
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| Tibaza | correct. I haven't started looking for an enhancement request yet but getting available, allocated and used size should be something we can do from the api | 16:34 |
| Tibaza | not currently supported by cinder api | 16:34 |
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| cucumber_ | ok, thx | 16:35 |
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| Tibaza | one option may be to populate volume-type metadata with size info but it will easily get out of date so not idea | 16:35 |
| Tibaza | ideal | 16:35 |
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| larsks | jlvillal: this is probably a fine place to ask about devstack. | 16:37 |
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| einarr | Tibaza: the calls you listed should be possible for all backends to provide, even though some might perhaps need to force allocated and used size to be equal. | 16:38 |
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| jlvillal | larsks: Thanks. It failed to install for me on Thursday. But today it seems to be working better. It is progressing farther along... | 16:38 |
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| sparr | I'm wanting to terminate and re-launch a VM with some frequency. I'd like to automate that. I'm trying to try heat but failing to find documentation for it. Are there other orchestration tools that work with openstack? Should I just be writing bash scripts for each of my VMs? | 16:40 |
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| larsks | sparr: Where are you looking for Heat documentation? The docs linked from https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Heat have a lot of good information. | 16:45 |
| larsks | ...but I'm not sure Heat is actually the right solution for what you're trying to do. | 16:46 |
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| larsks | Heat is mostly concerned with brining things up. | 16:46 |
| sparr | larsks: that's where I was looking. I just added a link to that page that goes to http://docs.openstack.org/developer/heat/template_guide/hot_guide.html | 16:46 |
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| sparr | bringing the thing up is the hard part | 16:46 |
| sparr | terminating is easy | 16:46 |
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| sparr | right now the annoying step is writing all the details of the VM on a post-it before I terminate it, so I can bring it back up with the same options | 16:46 |
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| larsks | sparr: that seems like a good use-case for heat, then. I can point you at some sample templates, if that would help. | 16:47 |
| sparr | I'm looking at the sample templates in the github repo for them. They are daunting. | 16:47 |
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| larsks | If it helps, here's a simple one that brings up a single server, with a single associated security group, and a floating ip address: http://chunk.io/f/39fb4a37372d4c5e979ed339a2a868a7 | 16:48 |
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| larsks | In this one, pretty much everything is parameterized, but you could obviously hardcode in things like the image/flavord id, or ssh key, etc. | 16:49 |
| sparr | I think one thing that was making me confused was that I don't know YAML | 16:49 |
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| larsks | It's a pretty simple format. Mostly a bunch of lists and dictionaries. | 16:50 |
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| sparr | yeah, the specific syntax was tripping me up | 16:52 |
| sparr | dashes for array elements, pipes or >s or quotes for multiline strings, etc | 16:52 |
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| larsks | If you're having problems putting together a template that does what you want, I'm happy to help out. | 16:52 |
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| sparr | right now I'd kill for a tool that turns an existing instance into a template | 16:53 |
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| sparr | I've got something like a hundred VMs all created manually, and I need to template all of them eventually | 16:53 |
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| larsks | Well, there's this: | 16:54 |
| larsks | http://dev.cloudwatt.com/en/blog/introducing-flame-automatic-heat-template-generation.html | 16:54 |
| larsks | I have no idea if it works or not. | 16:54 |
| sparr | I'll at least try it | 16:54 |
| sparr | thanks! | 16:54 |
| sparr | ok, last question before I go try stuff... | 16:55 |
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| sparr | does openstack have any tools meant for migrating VMs and their volumes from one stack to another? | 16:55 |
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| larsks | Between stacks? I don't think so. I mean, you can 'cinder upload-to-image' to move a volume into glance, then 'glance image-download', pip ethat to 'glance image-create' in another stack, and then create a cinder volume from that image. | 16:56 |
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| larsks | It is probably easier just to create a new instance in the other stack and then rsync the data from the old volume onto the new volume. | 16:57 |
| sparr | yeah, that's one thing I'm going to use heat to do :) | 16:57 |
| sparr | although then I'll have problems with keypairs not having the same name, different networks, etc | 16:57 |
| sparr | most of my VMs have no state on disk. no volume to move. | 16:58 |
| sparr | fortunately | 16:58 |
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| paws | i am currently using ownCloud but i am looking for a self-hosted cloud solutions that has file retention, any suggestions? | 17:01 |
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| jlvillal | Anyone have hints on what to do when devstack install fails? I am doing it on a fresh Ubuntu 14.04 VM. | 17:06 |
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| jlvillal | I see "Successfully installed python-ironicclient-0.4.0 python-subunit-1.0.0 tempest tempest-lib-0.2.0 testrepository-0.0.20 testscenarios-0.4" then it starts next step which seems to be 'tempest' | 17:07 |
| jlvillal | The failing line is: ++ /opt/stack/tempest/tempest/cmd/verify_tempest_config.py -uro /tmp/tmp.Y7DHXUXJpl | 17:07 |
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| larsks | jlvillal: Do you need tempest? If you explicitly disable tempest ("disable_service temptest" in your localrc) does the install work (or at least get further)? | 17:12 |
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| jlvillal | larsks: I don't think I need tempest. I was just doing the default devstack install. | 17:12 |
| jlvillal | larsks: I will try to disable it. | 17:13 |
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| sparr | where/how do I specify the name of an instance or instances being created by heat? | 17:26 |
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| larsks | sparr: An OS::Nova::Server resources can take an optional "name" property (http://docs.openstack.org/developer/heat/template_guide/openstack.html#OS::Nova::Server) | 17:28 |
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| larsks | sparr: E.g., in http://chunk.io/f/39fb4a37372d4c5e979ed339a2a868a7, you could add a "name: foo" right above the "image:" line in the "server" resource. | 17:28 |
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| Billias | I am trying to create the demo-net per install-guide | 17:29 |
| Billias | but I receive an | 17:29 |
| sparr | larsks: thanks | 17:29 |
| Billias | NoNetworkAvailable: Unable to create the network. No tenant network is available for allocation. | 17:29 |
| sparr | I'm having trouble with keypairs in openstack/nova. It seems like a given keypair is only visible/usable for a specific openstack user. How do I make a keypair that all users can see/access/use? | 17:30 |
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| larsks | sparr: I'm not sure that you can. Keypairs are meant to identify individual users... | 17:31 |
| sparr | this is for the root user | 17:31 |
| larsks | And everyone has the corresponding private key already? | 17:32 |
| sparr | our users all have their own key pairs installed and managed by chef | 17:32 |
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| sparr | this key pair is used, among other things, for knife bootstrap | 17:33 |
| larsks | I am confused, then. If everyone has unique keypairs, what do you want to create one "all users can see/access/use"? | 17:33 |
| larsks | I may not understand what you are trying to accomplish. | 17:33 |
| sparr | I have three openstack users | 17:33 |
| sparr | my personal user, my colleague's personal user, and the user used by all of our automated tools. | 17:33 |
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| sparr | when either of us humans create a VM, it should get a standard root keypair. Then we run knife boostrap to install chef on the server (via ssh, using that keypair), and chef installs all of the other keypairs for the two of us, our developers, our deployment system, etc | 17:35 |
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| sparr | I don't want to be unable to bootstrap a server because the other guy created the instance, or vice versa | 17:35 |
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| sparr | I'm not sure how this isn't a/the typical setup | 17:36 |
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| larsks | Well, oneoption would be for everyone to install the corresponding public key via 'nova keypair-add', and just use that when deploying images. | 17:36 |
| larsks | But it looks like there is a OS::Nova::KeyPair resource type, so you could include the necessary public key directly in your heat templates. | 17:36 |
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| sparr | putting the public key in every heat template would be a massive duplication of information | 17:37 |
| larsks | I don't know that I would call that "massive", and it makes everything self contained. | 17:37 |
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| larsks | But those are the two options I can think of right now. | 17:37 |
| sparr | ... | 17:37 |
| sparr | how do you do it? | 17:37 |
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| sparr | I mean, forget chef, forget bootstrapping. How do any two admins use openstack together and be able to ssh into instances created by the other admin? | 17:38 |
| larsks | In the past, I've gone with the first option i described. | 17:38 |
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| clarkb | sparr: the way we do it is at boot time create a throwaway key, use that for initial login which runs puppet to install everyone's keys | 17:38 |
| larsks | We had a common public key, we both installed it using 'nova keypair-add', we both named it "common", and then just used that when deployihng. | 17:38 |
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| clarkb | sparr: then once puppet is done delete the throwaway key, its simple and works well | 17:39 |
| sparr | clarkb: how do you create the throwaway key? | 17:39 |
| larsks | But if I needed to do that now I would probably use the keypair resources in the heat template. | 17:39 |
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| clarkb | sparr: paramiko generates the key for us | 17:39 |
| sparr | larsks: two users can have a keypair with the same name? that sounds odd, isn't name a primary key on the keypair table? | 17:39 |
| larsks | sparr: very few things use names as primary keys in openstack. I would expect that it's using an id. | 17:40 |
| jlvillal | larsks: It worked with 'disable_service tempest' in local.conf :) Thanks! | 17:40 |
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| larsks | sparr: I wonder if you could also install chef via a user-data script such that you did not have to ssh in to bootstrap it (and have chef pull in all your public keys). | 17:40 |
| sparr | this is starting to feel very off-putting. I am becoming angry with the person who chose openstack for this project :/ | 17:41 |
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| larsks | sparr: I don't actually understand your frustration here. The solutions in this case seem pretty simple. | 17:41 |
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| larsks | Either share a public key in nova, or in your heat templates. Or just use a pull-configuration that doesn't require the initial public key at all. | 17:42 |
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| sparr | I'm going to go into the nova db and duplicate the key pair for each user | 17:42 |
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| larsks | For what it's worth, the primary key for the key_pair table *is* a UUID, so they can all have the same name. | 17:42 |
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| sparr | so if i tell heat to install the key_pair named "foo", I might get a different key pair depending on which user I tell heat to log in as | 17:43 |
| sparr | that's wonky | 17:43 |
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| sparr | I'm going to use it to my advantage, but it's really weird | 17:55 |
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| sparr | (heat or nova or the web interface) | 18:05 |
| sparr | and if I decide to change that key, say because it's compromised, I have to change it in 3 different places :/ | 18:05 |
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| sparr | (better than changing it in 60 different places if I put it in my heat templates) | 18:05 |
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| bigpup | does anyone know why when I run the packstack --allinone I would get a failure about the credintials of the glance service? | 18:14 |
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| Billias | I am installing kilo, per manual. and the "neutron net-create demo-net" gives a 503 error | 18:17 |
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| Billias | I have passed all the steps and haven't forgot anything | 18:18 |
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| guimaluf | should I use keystone SSL or use haproxy ssl terminate? | 18:20 |
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| Sam-I-Am | Billias: there is no manual for kilo | 18:21 |
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| Sam-I-Am | Billias: 503 is probably an auth/permissions issue with keystone | 18:21 |
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| OiPolloi | Anyone knows how to use, in LBaaS (load balancer), for VIP, an address from the floating IPs? In the Horizon web interface it says "Currently not supported", but is there a way through the CLI? | 18:22 |
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| Billias | Sam-I-Am: But i could create the Admin net! | 18:22 |
| Billias | with the external IPs | 18:22 |
| ncamacho | Sam-I-Am: | 18:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | Billias: so you became the demo user for that command? | 18:22 |
| ncamacho | Sam-I-Am: he might be referring to this http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/install-guide/install/apt/content/ | 18:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | Billias: does the demo user work? | 18:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | ncamacho: yeah i figured as much. i maintain that guide and theres no updates for kilo yet. | 18:23 |
| ncamacho | Sam-I-Am: :) | 18:23 |
| Billias | Sam-I-Am: I can do keystone catalog! | 18:23 |
| Billias | perform* | 18:23 |
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| Billias | and neutron net-list | 18:24 |
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| sparr | Using heat to create an instance instead of the openstack web interface, I end up with a user named "ec2-user" instead of "ubuntu". What causes that distinction? | 18:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | Billias: do the logs say anything? | 18:25 |
| Billias | NoNetworkAvailable: Unable to create the network. No tenant network is available for allocation. | 18:25 |
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| Billias | from neutron.log | 18:25 |
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| Sam-I-Am | Billias: hmm, sounds like a neutron config issue | 18:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | did you not define tenant networks? | 18:26 |
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| Billias | there is nothing on the guide! i am reading it again. | 18:26 |
| Billias | what the hell did I miss :\ | 18:26 |
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| Sam-I-Am | tenant network types... details about those types such as gre ID ranges? | 18:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | those need definition on all nodes | 18:28 |
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| Billias | If i haven't had the network types | 18:28 |
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| Billias | would the external one work? (br-ext) | 18:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah, because its a flat network | 18:28 |
| Billias | ah | 18:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | tenant networks (if you follow the guide) are gre | 18:29 |
| Billias | so i missed something on the config | 18:29 |
| Billias | will check them again! thnx | 18:29 |
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| Billias | one typo | 18:31 |
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| Billias | on the controller config! thank you | 18:31 |
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| Sam-I-Am | good | 18:33 |
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| Billias | if you work from the morning till now (which is 19:33 here) … you can easily miss a spot | 18:34 |
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| Sam-I-Am | its not difficult even when you're awake | 18:34 |
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| Syed | Folks, I am facing this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1367218 | 18:45 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1374497 in oslo.db juno "duplicate for #1367218 change in oslo.db "ping" handling is causing issues in projects that are not using transactions" [High,Fix released] - Assigned to Mike Bayer (zzzeek) | 18:45 |
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| RichardR1seley | I am having an odd issue that I'd love to have some input on. I have a CentOS 7 template which has a cloud-init configured default username of 'centos'. However whenever I launch this image with Heat, the 'centos' username doesn't get the public key, but rather a user named 'ec2-user'. Why the discrepency? | 18:48 |
| RichardR1seley | Rather, has anyone experienced this before? | 18:48 |
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| larsks | RichardR1seley: Yes. | 18:49 |
| RichardR1seley | larsks: Oh, do tell. =] | 18:49 |
| larsks | RichardR1seley: Heat by default ships a user-data script with a bunch of heat-specific metadata, and this also sets up the defasult 'ec2-user', so that the target user is distribution agnostic. | 18:49 |
| larsks | You can override this by specifying 'user_data_format: RAW' in your server properties in your heat template. | 18:50 |
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| larsks | THis will cause Heat to not provide any of its own user-data. | 18:50 |
| anand_ts | Hi guys. Can i install openstack juno version (rdo) in centos 6.6? | 18:50 |
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| larsks | anand_ts: There are no RDO Juno packages for centos 6. | 18:52 |
| RichardR1seley | larsks: Ah, OK. So where can I see the 'default' user data that Heat is passing to the instance? | 18:52 |
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| larsks | RichardR1seley: Well, you can boot the instance, then inspect the user-data, either using 'curl' against the metadata service or just looking at the file in /var/lib/cloud/instance/user-data.txt. | 18:52 |
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| anand_ts | larsks: Yes, I just got ping from rich in rdo channel. So if I have centOS6.X I need to go with icehouse | 18:53 |
| larsks | anand_ts: Right. | 18:53 |
| RichardR1seley | larsks: Of course, thank you. | 18:53 |
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| anand_ts | larsks: thank you | 18:53 |
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| kupo24z | Sam-I-Am: I am currently using GRE+OVS per the current documentation, will i need to change over to vxlan for DVR when kilo releases? | 18:53 |
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| Sam-I-Am | dvr works with gre | 18:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | at least it seems to | 18:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | not sure if its recommended though | 18:56 |
| kupo24z | is it terribly difficult to convert to vxlan? | 18:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | you get to rebuild tenant networks | 18:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | or just create new ones for people and let them migrate | 18:56 |
| kupo24z | any documented process for that? | 18:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | delete network. create network. | 18:57 |
| kupo24z | seems simple | 18:57 |
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| kupo24z | the flat external network stays as-is, correct? | 18:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | yes | 18:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | and if you're not using distributed routers, that needs to change too | 18:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | someone is working on a conversion process | 18:57 |
| kupo24z | you can colocate legacy and dvr routers correct? | 18:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | yes | 18:58 |
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| kupo24z | kk, and im guessing its just a change in the ml2.ini and restarting all neutron services on all nodes? | 18:58 |
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| RichardR1seley | larsks: So I am looking at this python script which Heat is injecting into the instance by default ( https://gist.github.com/richardraseley/5365787f560c5832ebb7 ). I am having some trouble understanding exactly what it is doing. Will I lose core Heat functionality by overriding this with RAW data? | 19:01 |
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| RichardR1seley | It appears most of the code is just responsible for handling logging? | 19:03 |
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| Sam-I-Am | kupo24z: there is no change to neutron.conf to enable dvr routers | 19:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | kupo24z: unless you want to enable them by default | 19:04 |
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| kupo24z | Interesting | 19:04 |
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| larsks | RichardR1seley: Right, mostly. I regularly use RAW format and haven't missed anything. Some of the config information is useful if you are using things like wait conditions. | 19:04 |
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| larsks | But not in fact necessary even then. | 19:04 |
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| kupo24z | I noticed i dont have mechanism_drivers set to 'l2population', will this need to change as well? | 19:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | kupo24z: yeah, you should use that | 19:06 |
| kupo24z | Will that affect any networks or require me to restart anything besides neutron-openvswitch-agent? | 19:06 |
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| Sam-I-Am | wont affect networks, but you'll need to restart things... i think. | 19:06 |
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| RichardR1seley | larsks: Thank you. | 19:08 |
| kupo24z | There a specific order i should be updating/restarting configs? | 19:08 |
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| kupo24z | eg network nodes before compute | 19:08 |
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| Sam-I-Am | kupo24z: server first is a good bet, then other nodes | 19:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | if there is any db stuff, you want the server to know what to do when the other nodes chime in | 19:10 |
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| kupo24z | Do i need 'arp_responder = True' on the network nodes? or is that just for DVR | 19:12 |
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| kupo24z | So I have before: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/8642117 after: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/8642122 | 19:14 |
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| Sam-I-Am | its for dvr, also needs ovs >= 2.1 | 19:19 |
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| kupo24z | should i add both vxlan+gre to the config if we have existing gre networks? | 19:20 |
| kupo24z | eg: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/8642186 | 19:20 |
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| Syed | https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.db/+bug/1374497 | 19:31 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1374497 in oslo.db juno "change in oslo.db "ping" handling is causing issues in projects that are not using transactions" [High,Fix released] - Assigned to Mike Bayer (zzzeek) | 19:31 |
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| Tibaza | I am setting up a second region in Juno. Do I need to add a service for each region using the --os-region-name in the create service command or use common services for both regions? Right now my experiment was just creating unique endpoints but once done nova, neutron etc are common to both regions which suggests that I need unique services too. | 19:39 |
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| kupo24z | Sam-I-Am: does that config look correct? | 20:10 |
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| Billias | My external network ports are down, for sure i have done something wrong | 20:45 |
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| Billias | though I can ping the gateway ip | 20:46 |
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| kupo24z | Billias: it is normal for status to report "DOWN" on external networks using floating ip's | 20:48 |
| Billias | mm | 20:48 |
| Billias | but when I assign an ip | 20:49 |
| Billias | i should be able to ping it right? | 20:49 |
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| kupo24z | assuming your security group is setup to allow icmp and your guest allows pings yes :) | 20:49 |
| Billias | yeap it does | 20:49 |
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| kupo24z | See if you can ping the gateway in the guest OS | 20:56 |
| Billias | should I also be able to ping the floating ip? | 20:56 |
| Billias | if icmp ingress is allowed? | 20:56 |
| Billias | i can ping the gateway | 20:56 |
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| Billias | my Rabbitmq was the prob | 20:59 |
| Billias | now seems to work | 20:59 |
| Billias | i can ping the interface | 20:59 |
| Billias | waiting for ssh to start | 20:59 |
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| bitblt | if I set the default policy for glance to role:admin, no one else should be able to see anything, right? | 21:21 |
| bitblt | that doesn't have the admin role anyway | 21:21 |
| bitblt | because i have it working for cinder/nova, but glance doesn't work | 21:22 |
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| bitblt2 | will cinder try to remount everything in provider_location even if it's not specified in nfs-shares? I have a scenario that sure seems like that is the case | 22:39 |
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| Ryemus | Hey Guys, I am attempting to configure my openstack neutron setup. I would really like, for the first time around, to implement neutron in a way that it simply uses the existing hardware network setup | 23:06 |
| Ryemus | is there any guides you know of or advice for doing this? | 23:06 |
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| Ryemus | it is currently a cisco network with vlan tagging | 23:06 |
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| Ryemus | vlans already exist and firewall rules between them and whatnot | 23:06 |
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| Ryemus | all on hardware | 23:07 |
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| diegows | are there debian images for openstack? | 23:11 |
| diegows | I can't find anything :( | 23:11 |
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| Sam-I-Am | Ryemus: yeah, its called provider networks | 23:44 |
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| Sam-I-Am | working on a guide for it, but not done yet | 23:44 |
| Ryemus | Sam-I-Am, provider networks is a term for existing hardware networks? | 23:44 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yes | 23:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | you more or less use existing vlans for tenant networks, and your network infra handles layer 3. however, dhcp usually resides in openstack. | 23:46 |
| Ryemus | that sounds lovely | 23:46 |
| Ryemus | so every vlan is its own tenant? | 23:46 |
| Ryemus | we are PCI compliant so we have physical seperate between "secure" tier and "web" tier. how would be the best way to represent such a setup in openstack? | 23:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | probably regions | 23:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | well, tenants can have > 1 network, each network using its own vlan tag. | 23:48 |
| Ryemus | really? i was thinking a region would be a datacenter | 23:48 |
| Ryemus | and then tenants would be "secure tier" and "web tier" type heirarchy | 23:48 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i dont handle compliance, but my guess is more separation the better | 23:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | there's probably some docs out there on pci stuff | 23:48 |
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| Ryemus | Sam-I-Am, understood | 23:50 |
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| kupo24z | Sam-I-Am: using this config for ml2_conf.ini would it support both gre and vxlan networks? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/8642186 | 23:52 |
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| kupo24z | & if a new network is created, what does it default to? | 23:52 |
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| Sam-I-Am | looking... | 23:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | the first network in tenant_network_types is the default | 23:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | without any special privileges, networks created by tenants will be vxlan | 23:57 |
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| Sam-I-Am | and yeah, you should see both vxlan and gre tunnels built among all of your nodes | 23:57 |
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| kupo24z | will there any be any conflict with having gre & vxlan networks with the same range id's? | 23:57 |
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| kupo24z | eg vni_ranges/tunnel_id_ranges | 23:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | no | 23:58 |
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| kupo24z | And converting an existing network via deleting/re-creating it, would all instances have to be deleted that had ports on that network first? | 23:58 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yup | 23:59 |
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