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Sam-I-Am | no, its just the port nova-api listens on if its running | 00:01 |
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MasterPiece | its listen on 8773 when I run it with --debug option | 00:04 |
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Sam-I-Am | anything interesting in the logs? | 00:05 |
MasterPiece | just listen on 8775 ! :D | 00:06 |
MasterPiece | http://paste.ubuntu.com/10180075/ | 00:06 |
MasterPiece | the result of service nova-apt restart | 00:06 |
MasterPiece | apt -> *api | 00:07 |
MasterPiece | # Metadata API # | 00:07 |
MasterPiece | # # # # # # # # | 00:07 |
MasterPiece | #metadata_host=$my_ip | 00:07 |
MasterPiece | #metadata_port=8775 | 00:07 |
MasterPiece | #metadata_listen=0.0.0.0 | 00:07 |
MasterPiece | is this true?! | 00:07 |
Sam-I-Am | thats metadata | 00:07 |
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Sam-I-Am | read this: http://docs.openstack.org/juno/install-guide/install/apt/content/ch_nova.html#nova-controller-install | 00:08 |
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anish | himangi: I'm not really involved with any of that, I just knew where the link was :) | 00:10 |
himangi | cool anish ! | 00:10 |
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RichardR2seley | I am experiencing a weird issue whereby when I create a new network and launch instances manually, those instances can communicate outbound (to the rest of my internal network and the world at large) without any issues (as is expected). When I do the same with Heat my instances cannot communicate outbound whatsoever unless they have a floating IP assigned to them. | 00:20 |
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RichardR2seley | When I compare the properties of the routers, networks, subnets, etc. they look identical. Has anyone else experienced this issue? | 00:20 |
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dgbaley | I want to start enabling SSL across the board. Is there a way to do this incrementally/optionally? E.g., I'd like to enable SSL for keystone without breaking all of my endpoints. | 01:41 |
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stevemar | dgbaley, ugh, that's going to be painful i think, check the manuals/guides, theres gotta be one | 01:43 |
dgbaley | stevemar: Yeah, I know. I've attempted this a few times already and wound up backing out. | 01:44 |
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NightKhaos | Hi, I'm trying to work through a problem. I want to create a load balance active/passive pair within my OpenStack environment to do haproxy instances mainly because LBaaS, in it's current form, is not powerful enough to do things like SSL termination and listening on multiple ports on the same VIP (required for SSL redirect). The problem is the VIP I then need to NAT... | 01:46 |
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NightKhaos | I figure if I make a port with the same IP address as the VIP, that'll allow me to NAT that VIP, BUT... how do I make it work so everything is happy? i.e. the port isn't "down", traffic actually gets forwarded properly, etc. | 01:47 |
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dgbaley | Also, how do I even specify client key/cert with the clients, e.g. python-novaclient? | 01:51 |
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larsks | dgbaley: I don't think the clients authenticate to the servers with ssl -- hence, no provision for providing the client with a cert and key. The clients just negotiate an encrypted connection with the server (which they can verify with --os-cacert), and then pass normal credentials over that encrypted channel. | 02:02 |
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dgbaley | larsks: so it's just a missing feature then, because the services, identity at least, has an option to require client certs. | 02:03 |
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larsks | Interesting. Even then, it seems like it would just be an additional layer of authentication; I'm pretty sure you would still need to be passing keystone tokens around. But I don't actually know for certain. | 02:04 |
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MasterPiece | When I want to populate neutron database, I deal with this error : http://paste.ubuntu.com/10182721/ | 04:27 |
MasterPiece | where is the problem?!!! the .ini config file is : http://paste.ubuntu.com/10182725/ | 04:27 |
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MasterPiece | Oh, shit, the problem is '\t' in 48 line :) | 04:28 |
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NightKhaos | Can anyone help me with my networking problem *inside* a virtual network? I'm trying to assign a VIP to a machine, however I can't route any traffic to the VIP. How do I tell OpenStack to not block traffic to this VIP? | 05:17 |
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Dominique | Guys, how can I pass INSTANCE-ID to my cloud.cfg? | 06:51 |
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sinh | i'm trying to set up a new juno cluster | 07:51 |
sinh | controller and network node on the same machine | 07:51 |
sinh | multiple compute nodes | 07:51 |
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sinh | problem i'm having is the guests aren't a) getting an ip from the dhcp server and b) if statically assigned i can't even ping it | 07:52 |
sinh | so i'm trying to see if it's something with the openvswitch problem since it's adding interfaces to the the bridge that isn't showing up if you do ifconfig on the network node | 07:52 |
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sinh | this is a 14.04 ubuntu install w/ juno | 08:04 |
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Dominique | Hmm $INSTANCE_ID does not seem to be parsed inside of write_files | 08:22 |
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GanjaWizard | helloooo folks | 08:28 |
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GanjaWizard | can someone tell me something about the relation between the running nova vms and the swift storage ? i mean how can a customer access his container over a vm? or how can a administrator transfer or copy data like sort of vm's or container to another customer server like amazon? i am a noob administrator in openstack. and i have some questions, that cant be answered by looking in the openstack guides | 08:32 |
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GanjaWizard | can someone explain me something about the relation between the running nova vms and the swift storage ? i mean how can a customer access his container over a vm? or how can a administrator transfer or copy data like sort of vm's or container to another customer server like amazon? i am a noob administrator in openstack. and i have some questions, that cant be answered by looking in the openstack guides | 08:55 |
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sc-rm | We have poor write speed on out compute instances and using ceph as storage backend. All our ceph nodes uses SSD for journals, and a dedicated network/switches for storage. So any suggestions to where the bottleneck could be? | 09:00 |
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GanjaWizard | can someone explain me something about the relation between the running nova vms and the swift storage ? i mean how can a customer access his container over a vm? or how can a administrator transfer or copy data like sort of vm's or container to another customer server like amazon? i am a noob administrator in openstack. and i have some questions, that cant be answered by looking in the openstack guides | 09:02 |
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ramnes | notmyname: I can't get the vagrant-swift-all-in-one working | 09:34 |
ramnes | it always fail for a reason or an other on provisions | 09:34 |
ramnes | I'm trying on linux right now, and it's stuck with chef | 09:35 |
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ramnes | I'm going to try with this one https://github.com/ualbertalib/docker-swift | 09:36 |
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ramnes | mhhh, the vagrant one is working on linux | 09:47 |
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ramnes | it was 20 minutes on chef, though | 09:47 |
ramnes | considering my OS X is on a USB key, that could make it so slow that it just timeout | 09:47 |
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GanjaWizard | can someone explain me something about the relation between the running nova vms and the swift storage ? i mean how can a customer access his container over a vm? or how can a administrator transfer or copy data like sort of vm's or container to another customer server like amazon? i am a noob administrator in openstack. and i have some questions, that cant be answered by looking in the openstack guides | 09:51 |
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GanjaWizard | can someone explain me something about the relation between the running nova vms and the swift storage ? i mean how can a customer access his container over a vm? or how can a administrator transfer or copy data like sort of vm's or container to another customer server like amazon? i am a noob administrator in openstack. and i have some questions, that cant be answered by looking in the openstack guides | 09:59 |
sc-rm | GanjaWizard: What do you want to know? There is no direct link between the running instance and swift storage, what do you expect? | 09:59 |
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GanjaWizard | i try to understand the relations between some services. what i've red was that the compute nodes can store and access data on the storage nodes. i mean how? or how to move container data from the storage to another customer server | 10:02 |
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GanjaWizard | or better said ... what kind of things like the container or something else can i transfer from openstack to servers from customer? they can access openstack, use their instances and their container stored data, but what more can they do? as a administrator, can i send them things that are stored in our openstack cloud to their server? | 10:11 |
GanjaWizard | like i once said ... i am new to this project and i have to set this up all alone without help. | 10:12 |
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sinh | so think i figured out why my installation isn't working. . network wise | 10:21 |
sinh | it looks like my bridge interfaces aren't up | 10:21 |
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sc-rm | GanjaWizard: There is no direct way of transfering data to and from eg. OpenStack <-> Amazon. The person wanting to do so needs to figure, what needs to be transfered and then create scripts that interact with each of these services | 10:24 |
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sc-rm | GanjaWizard: Does it make sense? | 10:24 |
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GanjaWizard | it lightens my thinking ... now i know that there is no direct way .. u see there are several things that arent explained in the openstack doc | 10:26 |
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GanjaWizard | for some people its self-evident and for some beginners there are questions that havent been discussed, because not everybody is noob friendly | 10:27 |
ByteSore | does someone know how to configure dhcp in a dvr / vxlan environment? my instances don't get an ip assigned | 10:27 |
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GanjaWizard | my problem is also that openstack is my final school project, and reading 4000 sites of documentation makes my brain smoke | 10:29 |
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GanjaWizard | thats why i ask u guys, because u have the knowledge and experience that i havent yet. i have devstack running on a server, but thats just a small taste of what it can | 10:30 |
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sc-rm | GanjaWizard: yep, that is a small part of it, but maybe that is enough for a school project, because setting up a full blown setup that will do all the “magic” will require some more hardware or horsepower from the machine you are running the VM with open stack in | 10:34 |
sc-rm | GanjaWizard: How long time do you have to get the grasp of Open Stack for your project? | 10:35 |
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GanjaWizard | my school project was devstack! :) i installed it, but that was a thing for an hour, and now i have to make a plan of what needs my company has for their customer ... and my boss also wants me to set up openstack because its a part of their core-feature | 10:35 |
GanjaWizard | 35 hours | 10:36 |
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sc-rm | GanjaWizard: I would suggest that you spend a lot more than 35 hours if your boss want’s to have something that is working correctly. Try have a look at mirantis fuel, eg. http://samuraiincloud.com/2014/08/13/building-openstack-icehouse-in-virtualbox-in-60-minutes-using-mirantis-fuel-2/ | 10:41 |
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sc-rm | GanjaWizard: It will do you setup process way faster and don’t have to spend time on configuring the individual parts of Open Stack. But you will still have to understand the parts if anything crashes doing production, you will be screwed if you don’t know the internal parts. | 10:42 |
GanjaWizard | the server thats running devstack got 4tb of hard disk and 32 gb and its running on baremetal. well, when i started my practicum my boss told me 2 weeks later he wants openstack swift, so that customer can access their docker container that runs serveral applications like mysql apache etc. i think he just heard of what openstack is, but has no idea what it can and does | 10:43 |
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sc-rm | GanjaWizard: In our production we have 12 servers like you described to run a test setup, but less can do the trick. | 10:44 |
GanjaWizard | that guide u have send is for local hardware ^^... i have only a rented server available, that means it can only run minimal installations of linux | 10:44 |
sc-rm | GanjaWizard: I don’t know about running it on one server where you do not have full controll of it… | 10:45 |
GanjaWizard | 12 servers? ^^ .. i just made this work on my naked server http://docs.openstack.org/developer/devstack/guides/single-machine.html | 10:45 |
sc-rm | GanjaWizard: That is for making sure we do not have a single point of failure. | 10:46 |
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BAKfr | Hi, If I want to delete a Swift container with a lot of objects, I must delete all objects one by one, or there is another way ? | 10:47 |
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GanjaWizard | aw ... well ... my company gave me only one and said to me, make the best of it , sooooo .... | 10:47 |
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sc-rm | GanjaWizard: We started to test with devstack also, but it’s a hassel to make it scale and perform with a lot of objects. Devstack is from my point of view not made for production, but just for testing. | 10:48 |
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GanjaWizard | sc-rm: wat are u running for services in your company? | 10:48 |
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GanjaWizard | devstack was never thought to be productive ... i knew that wouldnt be possible. I just had to start somewhere | 10:49 |
sc-rm | GanjaWizard: All our services are web based backend systems. Software as a service | 10:49 |
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sc-rm | GanjaWizard: Devstack is also a really good start. If your company really want to make it smart and with as little hassels as possible. I would clearly recommend something like fuel. | 10:50 |
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mlody | Hey guys. I want to setup just a mongodb and ceilometer for analyzing dumps of my main openstack mongodb database. Is it possible? | 10:53 |
GanjaWizard | sc-rm: hmm.. fuel reminds me on MAAS | 10:53 |
mlody | i want to start a seprate host and install onto it mong and ceilometer, and connect this ceilometer to this local mongodb with dumps | 10:53 |
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sc-rm | GanjaWizard: it’s something like MAAS, but I personally found it better, but that depends on how you feel | 10:54 |
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GanjaWizard | sc-rm: but its making the same like maas? it does install all nodes over pxe | 10:55 |
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GanjaWizard | sc-rm: seems like fuel doesnt install every openstack service if wanted ... and it doesnt support docker in the installation process, there is still much of work to do, but it still seems like a good service | 10:58 |
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GanjaWizard | sc-rm: do you know a good introduction or beginner guide for the openstack infrastructure and how its connected? something like a youtube video or noob guide. | 11:03 |
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sc-rm | GanjaWizard: That is correct, MAAS does a lot more than what fuel does, but I’m also a bit old school, where MAAS interfers too much with what we want to do. | 11:06 |
sc-rm | GanjaWizard: Fuel is excelent for just deploying open stack and letting you decide completely what you want to do with the services running inside open stack. Where MAAS from my experince is handling everything, but can make it harder to make simple stuff in instances. But it’s a long time since I tried MAAS the last time. | 11:08 |
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sc-rm | GanjaWizard: I don’t really have an introduction og beginngers guide at hand, but there quite sure there is such a guide out there | 11:09 |
GanjaWizard | what do you mean by doing simple stuff in instances? do you mean something like running and using the vm in compute? | 11:09 |
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sc-rm | GanjaWizard: Fule install all open stack services, but it does not handle services running inside the instances. | 11:10 |
sc-rm | GanjaWizard: brb, lunchbreak | 11:11 |
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GanjaWizard | sc-rm: good lunch! | 11:11 |
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Lehtu | Hey guys, I made an ubuntu image and when I launch the instance it does not resize the partition, only the disk? Do I need to delete the metadata of the disk? | 11:28 |
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Lehtu | ahh nvm | 11:34 |
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kokoscy | Hello guys. If a user belongs to two projects or tentnats how can I build stacks on those projects separately ? | 12:11 |
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sinh | when doing a ovs-ofctl show on br-eth1, i'm getting the following. . (apologies for the flood) | 12:15 |
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sinh | 2(phy-br-eth1): addr:1a:20:dd:0d:74:8a | 12:15 |
sinh | config: 0 | 12:15 |
sinh | state: 0 | 12:15 |
sinh | speed: 0 Mbps now, 0 Mbps max | 12:15 |
sinh | LOCAL(br-eth1): addr:16:8b:6f:df:d9:a4 | 12:15 |
sinh | config: PORT_DOWN | 12:15 |
sinh | state: LINK_DOWN | 12:15 |
sinh | speed: 0 Mbps now, 0 Mbps max | 12:15 |
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sinh | what could i be doing wrong that would cause this to be down? | 12:15 |
sinh | the same goes for br-int as well | 12:15 |
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sinh | been dealing with bridging issues all night on this install | 12:17 |
sinh | so any help would be greatly appreciated | 12:17 |
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k69 | hi, i am trying to install debian 7 openstack, and during installation where the dpkg dialog prompts to get values for config files, i messed up alot with them, so i get alot of error, i was wondering can i restart everything from step 0, and ignore the dialog and use ubuntu 14.04 commands on debian 7 nodes? (coz i could install openstack ubuntu 14.04 completely) | 12:45 |
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Sam-I-Am | k69: yeah, you can use 'dpkg-reconfigure -plow debconf' | 12:46 |
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k69 | Sam-I-Am, hi, thanks for the reply as always :). sorry to ask again but are all the commands of ubuntu 14.04 compatible with debian 7? | 12:47 |
k69 | Sam-I-Am, kinda am worry about it | 12:47 |
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Sam-I-Am | k69: they're typically the same packages, so you can more or less follow the ubuntu guide. however, debian 7 has old kernel and openvswitch packages that may cause problems unless you use backports. | 12:49 |
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k69 | Sam-I-Am, oh so i get errors at installing neutron by the manual | 12:51 |
Sam-I-Am | like what? | 12:52 |
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Sam-I-Am | aight, i gotta go to work. back later. | 12:55 |
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k69 | Sam-I-Am, sorry was away, thanks alot for the help | 12:58 |
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sc-rm | GanjaWizard: When I’m writing about doing simple stuff. I don’t mean managing VM’s but eg installing an ubuntu instance and log in and do simple changes to it. You can do so, but the framework of MAAS and juju is more for you to create scripts that does it for you. For most people with common needs I would suggest MAAS + juju. But if you want to go outside the common box, you have to test those two against your needs. | 14:15 |
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GanjaWizard | sc-rm: try and error ^^ ... i am not familiar with scripting i learned the windows world ... but the company wants linux because of license. do u have an idea how much servers would i need for a productive but not HA openstack cloud with all services? | 14:20 |
kbringard | if you don't care about HA you can get away with a lot less | 14:21 |
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larsks | GanjaWizard: The "how many servers" questions depends entirely on what you expect to do with your environment (e.g., how many instances do you expect to run? With how much memory? And how much disk space? And do you expect a lot of network IO? Or more disk IO?) | 14:21 |
kbringard | ^^ | 14:21 |
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kbringard | larsks: always beating me to the punch, I need to drink more coffee sooner | 14:22 |
kbringard | :-D | 14:22 |
kbringard | by the by, I got that heat stuff all working, larsks. all it took was specifying the version 3 stuff to the openstack client so I could get access to the domain commands, so you were spot on | 14:23 |
GanjaWizard | thats the question i asked someone in my company, because i have no idea of how many customer we are going to provide. i think that there would maybe 50-100 customers. | 14:23 |
larsks | kbringard: excellent! | 14:23 |
kbringard | GanjaWizard: if you're going to have that many customers, I would strongly advise against not having HA | 14:23 |
kbringard | larsks: I owe you a beer in vancouver :-D | 14:24 |
larsks | GanjaWizard: ...and you will also need to use the power of math (number of customers * number of expected instances/custom * amount of memory expected/instance, etc) | 14:24 |
GanjaWizard | HA means for me 28 servers or more? | 14:24 |
larsks | kbringard: Sadly, not coming to vancouver; I was at the last two summits. | 14:24 |
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kbringard | booooo | 14:24 |
larsks | GanjaWizard: Where are you coming up with 28 servers? | 14:24 |
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larsks | A simple HA environment would probably involve three controllers, and then as many compute nodes as you need to support your expected workload. | 14:24 |
kbringard | then I guess I owe you a beer in Tokyo :-p | 14:25 |
larsks | :) | 14:25 |
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GanjaWizard | because someone here told it to me one day if i want to run all services with recommended amount of servers and hardware :D | 14:25 |
larsks | GanjaWizard: Which brings us back to Math. | 14:25 |
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GanjaWizard | stop living my dreams!!! i want to move myself to vancouver and visit tokyo!!! STOP IT!!! | 14:25 |
kbringard | GanjaWizard: get your company to send you to the next 2 summits :-D | 14:26 |
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GanjaWizard | i would like my company to get me one day free -.- ... i am still in school, thats just practicum iam doing | 14:26 |
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GanjaWizard | well 3 controllers ... maybe 3 compute nodes and if i add swift, would i need maybe more 3 servers? | 14:30 |
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GanjaWizard | btw. the controllers have to run neutron, identity, horizon and the database right? the compute nodes just provide the instances and to store and backup i would need a proxy server, account and storage server if im right | 14:33 |
kbringard | depends on how you want to break things out… you don't *need* to do any of that, but I can tell you from experience that customers aren't going to be super happy if your database dies and they lose all their instances | 14:33 |
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kbringard | the control plane is generally database, message bus (rabbit most likely) api servers (neutron, nova, cinder, etc.), keystone (auth) | 14:34 |
kbringard | and horizon can go on there if you want to | 14:35 |
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kbringard | then, you'll also need the L3 stuff | 14:35 |
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kbringard | so the "network nodes", aka: l3-agent | 14:35 |
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kbringard | and the dhcp stuff will also likely go on the network nodes | 14:36 |
kbringard | so you can pile all that stuff on the same few servers if you want to, but it all comes back to architectural decisions, and like lars said: math | 14:37 |
Madkiss | how can I debug keystone using strace? | 14:37 |
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Madkiss | I am seeing a rather longish delay in keystone issuing tokens, and I would like to understand what keystone is specifically waiting for | 14:38 |
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GanjaWizard | of course it does. the main problem would be calculating how many servers we would need to rent. we havent the infrastrukture and network speed to provide it locally. with dhcp service u mean the flatdhcp. | 14:39 |
kbringard | you could probably get away with 3 servers for the control plane and provide HA, but ultimately it's a business decision | 14:40 |
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kbringard | how much do you wan to pay for redundancy and "security" that it'll stay up and can recover from a failure | 14:40 |
kbringard | Madkiss: good question… I suppose you could just strace -p <keystone pid> | 14:41 |
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kbringard | maybe turn down the child workers so you're not forking and trying to figure out which one doing the actual work | 14:41 |
kbringard | and assuredly don't front it with apache's wsgi, since that makes it hard to catch the keystone process itself | 14:42 |
kbringard | if you're using the DB backend for tokens you may want to check your DB load and look at the show full processlist output and stuff | 14:42 |
kbringard | if it's memcache, then perhaps there's just a lot of tokens there already… of if it's DB for that matter | 14:42 |
kbringard | GanjaWizard: oh, and glance, I forgot about that | 14:43 |
kbringard | you'll need a place to store your images, and replicate them if you don't want them to go away with a failure | 14:43 |
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GanjaWizard | that makes 10 servers | 14:44 |
kbringard | if you want to spread it out like that | 14:45 |
kbringard | you can pile it all on 3 or 5 if you want | 14:45 |
GanjaWizard | 3 controller, 3 compute, 3 for swift and 1 for glance | 14:45 |
kbringard | glance can go on the controllers and if you back your images with swift then you double up there | 14:45 |
GanjaWizard | 3 wouldnt provide HA as i suggest | 14:46 |
kbringard | but, 10-12 seems like a reasonable number of servers for a small, HA, OpenStack deploy | 14:46 |
kbringard | I wouldn't count on less than that unless you want to kill HA | 14:46 |
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GanjaWizard | kbringard: you are a big help in my project dude :) and the other supporter that helped me also | 14:47 |
kbringard | larsks ^^ | 14:48 |
larsks | :) | 14:48 |
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kbringard | we've just been doing this a long time. stick with it and you'll be helping people out in no time :-) | 14:48 |
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GanjaWizard | well its much helpier than reading all docs with 1000 of pages. but there are everyday new questions that opens up in my mind .. like u said the L3 .. now i have to checkout what that is. | 14:52 |
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kbringard | that's what manages the floating IP and external access stuff for your VMs | 14:52 |
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GanjaWizard | aaah ok, so that means it controls what vm becomes which ip from the dhcp, i understand. | 14:54 |
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asd-pewpew | hi all | 14:55 |
kbringard | kind of… it manages the NATing/mapping of external IPs to internal IPs. Basically it's your external router. the dhcp-agent is what manages which VM gets which IP from DHCP | 14:55 |
kbringard | :-D | 14:55 |
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kbringard | hey asd-pewpew | 14:55 |
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ly2en | hi folks | 14:57 |
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ly2en | if neutron node has an external network interface, is this okay that only VM's respond to ping on that network ? | 14:58 |
Dominique | larsks: thanks for the help yesterday, I managed to finish the cloud-init configuration today :) | 14:58 |
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ly2en | say, vm is 10.10.2.51 and neutron is 10.10.2.10, so I can only ping the VM | 14:58 |
asd-pewpew | I got a fairly hard question and would be glad if someone here is encouraged to anweser. I'm in an open source dev group having my own physical server hosting about 15 vm's. Now I was wondering whether I could use OpenStack for this. I read the install manual for OpenStack on Debian here: http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt-debian/content/index.html My question is: Is OpenStack possible to use on a single | 14:59 |
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larsks | asd-pewpew: it is certainly possible to run openstack on a single host (I run it on my laptop). But whether this makes sense or not really depends on what you're hoping to accomplish. | 15:00 |
larsks | Dominique: glad that worked out! | 15:00 |
Dominique | larsks: Now I have to do another for CentOS :p | 15:00 |
Dominique | At least it'll be worth it in the end | 15:01 |
ly2en | larsks: you're probably running devstack, right ? | 15:01 |
asd-pewpew | larsks: Thx. It's intention would be to host my domain's internal VM's and let my dev group users deploy rapidly new VM's for testing purposes | 15:01 |
ly2en | larsks: is devstack production-ready? :-) | 15:01 |
larsks | ly2en: nope, RDO Juno on F21 | 15:01 |
ly2en | oh okay | 15:01 |
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larsks | asd-pewpew: you can certainly use it for that. It's very easy to grow beyond a single machine, though :) | 15:02 |
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asd-pewpew | larsks: Yes, exactly this was my intention. Would you mind please giving me some starting point. Would you recommend start setting it up by hand (for Debian) or go with some setup script? | 15:03 |
larsks | asd-pewpew: If you goal is "learn as much about openstack as possible", then set it up by hand. Otherwise, I would use some sort of deployment tool. I'm not familiar with the debian options on this front. | 15:03 |
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larsks | I'm running Fedora, and I typically install using "packstack", which is fairly painless as long as you're not looking for things like HA. | 15:04 |
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larsks | But that's not an option on debian/ubuntu environments. | 15:04 |
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larsks | Ubuntu as an installer, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/cloud/install-ubuntu-openstack | 15:05 |
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larsks | But I don't know anything about that product. | 15:05 |
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asd-pewpew | larsks: Well, my point is that I can really easily deploy and manage VM's through cmdline and libvirt - but my developers don't! | 15:05 |
GanjaWizard | kbringard: What do you think how many IPs would i need to buy from a hoster to run this? i mean i cant just adjust a dhcp server and give them whatever ip i tell them to use. i can only buy a range of ips for the server. | 15:05 |
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asd-pewpew | larks: So my goal is to make deploying VM's easily for them. | 15:06 |
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larsks | asd-pewpew: well, that's a different question. | 15:06 |
larsks | I was just talking about how easy it would be for *you* to deploy openstack. | 15:06 |
asd-pewpew | :D | 15:07 |
larsks | Once you have an openstack environment up and running, the default web UI is reasonably easy. | 15:07 |
asd-pewpew | Yes, I thought so too by looking at screenshots of the dashboard | 15:07 |
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Madkiss | kbringard: keystone with local tokens and memcached caching, yeah | 15:08 |
Madkiss | restarting memcached did the trick | 15:08 |
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asd-pewpew | larsks: previously you anwsered to a question regarding devstack. would this be some entry point for me: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/devstack/guides/single-machine.html ? | 15:09 |
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larsks | asd-pewpew: devstack is really meant for development work, not for setting up a persistent environment. | 15:10 |
larsks | asd-pewpew: That said, it's certainly a starting point if you want to experiment. | 15:10 |
kbringard | Madkiss: cool. my guess would be there were a lot of tokens in there | 15:10 |
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Madkiss | the bad news is that after restarting memcached, a number of openstack services will return 500 errors | 15:11 |
asd-pewpew | larks: thank you very much. | 15:11 |
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Madkiss | kbringard: in fact, when I restart memcached, I have to restart all OpenStack API Services because they will refuse to connect to keystone otherwise ... | 15:21 |
Madkiss | something must be seriously broken here, but I wonder hwat? | 15:21 |
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ParsectiX | Hello. How can a user that belogns on two projects or tenants build stacks separately on those ? | 15:49 |
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larsks | ParsectiX: By specifying the appropriate tenant id when authenticating. | 15:57 |
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larsks | E.g., setting OS_TENANT_NAME or OS_TENANT_ID in the environment. | 15:58 |
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larsks | Or using the equivalent command line flags. | 15:58 |
larsks | (Generally, --os-tenant-name or --os-tenant-id) | 15:58 |
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ParsectiX | larsks Thanks for the answer | 16:00 |
ParsectiX | I will try it | 16:00 |
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blinky_ghost | hi all, I have an openstack deployment with ceph for image and cinder storage. When I try to copy an image to a volume I get this error: "computeFault": {"message": "The server has either erred or is incapable of performing the requested operation.", "code": 500" Any hint? thanks | 16:49 |
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cucumber_ | hi everyone | 17:25 |
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salv-orlando | meh | 18:11 |
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luflores | anyone familiar with GBP that can help ? | 18:40 |
luflores | I am getting this error when integrating it with Cisco APIC gbpservice.neutron.services.grouppolicy.policy_driver_manager.....Policy driver 'apic' failed in create_policy_target_group_postcommit | 18:41 |
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muraiki | once ceilometer is installed, do I have to manually specify what meters should exist? or will I see those meters created once there are appropriate samples? | 18:44 |
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Sam-I-Am | muraiki: did you install agents for what needs agents? | 18:44 |
Sam-I-Am | like nova-compute | 18:44 |
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muraiki | sam-i-am: yes. I have some meters present, but others seem to be missing | 18:45 |
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muraiki | sam-i-am: and in the case of volume information, I have some but not all volume meters | 18:45 |
Sam-I-Am | some meters appear after some period of time | 18:45 |
muraiki | sam-I-am: yeah, our ceilometer was apparently broken for some time, so we only jsut got samples working again recently | 18:45 |
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muraiki | ok, I'll see what's up tomorrow :) | 18:45 |
muraiki | but I don't need to edit some config or create them via an API, right? | 18:46 |
Sam-I-Am | how long was ceilometer running before it broke? | 18:46 |
Sam-I-Am | and do you know why it broke? | 18:46 |
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muraiki | sysadmin pushed a broken config through puppet. I don't nkow how long it was broke, as we hadn't tried to use it until recently | 18:46 |
Sam-I-Am | i'm not a ceilometer expert, but most common meters just appear after a while. | 18:46 |
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neetz | Hey there ! I'm an openstack newbie , I'm just trying to create an image from scratch to a cloud image , i know i have to make use of cloudinit , for example if i want to convert the desktop ubuntu LTS to cloud ubuntu , then where do i start from ? I'm not finding a tutorial on this , I have seen commands of cloudinit and configurations , but where do i run it ? | 18:50 |
muraiki | Sam-I-Am: oh actually, I realize now that on our development stack we have many meters present, but some are missing even after an appropriate resource has existed for some time. for instance, we've had snapshots for weeks but there are no snapshot meters | 18:50 |
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Sam-I-Am | thats odd | 18:51 |
Sam-I-Am | are those from glance? | 18:51 |
neetz | Sam-I-Am: yes ! that's a glance issue | 18:51 |
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Sam-I-Am | neetz: glance bug, or a config issue? | 18:52 |
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neetz | Sam-I-Am: no , a config issue ! I don't know to get started with it ! like i have tried installing virt manager to edit instances to cloud using cloudinit , but where do i run it exactly ? | 18:53 |
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Sam-I-Am | neetz: oh, i was talking to muraiki | 18:57 |
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Sam-I-Am | neetz: i would look at suse studio for image creation | 18:57 |
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neetz | Sam-I-Am: but i want it throught command line ? :| | 18:58 |
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neetz | Sam-I-Am: basically i'm devloping a Paas layer , so i need to provide the things automatically | 18:58 |
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muraiki | Sam-I-Am: these are volume snapshots, so they're in cinder. so perhaps volume snapshots only show up under volumes, which kind of stinks :( | 18:59 |
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Sam-I-Am | neetz: http://docs.openstack.org/image-guide/content/ubuntu-image.html | 18:59 |
Sam-I-Am | something like that might help | 18:59 |
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Sam-I-Am | muraiki: oh. doesnt glance still know about those? | 19:00 |
neetz | Sam-I-Am: I have looked into that , but that is to install VM , but not creating of images | 19:00 |
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muraiki | Sam-I-Am: actually I was mistaken; the volumes I'm seeing in ceilometer appear to be normal volumes, not volume snapshots. glance doesn't know about volume snapshots | 19:02 |
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Sam-I-Am | neetz: you create images from an installed instance | 19:03 |
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neetz | Sam-I-Am: how would suse studio help me here ? | 19:04 |
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muraiki | Sam-I-Am: oh, according to the ceilometer docs the "snapshot" meter does correspond to volume snapshots. so something weird is going on... there's no snapshot meters despite there being snapshots | 19:05 |
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RichardR2seley | I am using Heat (Icehouse). When I try to deploy a Neutron port (OS::Neutron::Port) and specify its 'fixed_ip_address' property, the port gets both a 'regular' DHCP address as well as the address which I've assigned to it. As I understood it, this was akin to creating a reservation in DHCP for that particular address, but it appears to just be statically assigning it to an instance. Is there any | 19:14 |
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RichardR2seley | way to get a specified address + DHCP options or do I just have to turn DHCP off in the network altogether if I want to assign this static address? | 19:15 |
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Sam-I-Am | neetz: i'm still not really sure what you're trying to accomplish here | 19:15 |
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neetz | Sam-I-Am: I just want to convert a genric ububntu image to cloud compatible ubuntu image | 19:16 |
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Sam-I-Am | neetz: you have to do the install, then use the cloud-init tools to make the cloud-ready image. | 19:17 |
Sam-I-Am | there is no out-of-band way to do it | 19:17 |
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neetz | Sam-I-Am: do you have a tutorial for it ? | 19:18 |
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dank_ | Anyone know who to bug is the contact information form is broken on review.openstack.org? | 19:19 |
dank_ | s/is/if/ | 19:19 |
larsks | neetz: if you are trying to do work customizing an existing image, the libguestfs project (http://libguestfs.org/) has some neat command-line tools, like virt-customize (http://libguestfs.org/virt-customize.1.html). | 19:19 |
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sinh | so need some help here with this juno install. everything is up except i can't get network to work. digging in it looks like the bridge interfaces are not coming up and i'm unsure as to how to fix this | 19:24 |
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LeanReox | hi guys, is there any known issue with centos5 VMs trying to access metadata ? cause centos 6 and 7 and ubuntu works just fine, but centos5 can ping metadata ip but cant curl to it | 20:04 |
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larsks | LeanReox: What does the routing table look like on your centos 5 systems? | 20:18 |
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LeanReox | larsks, 169.254.169.254 10.199.99.101 255.255.255.255 UGH 0 0 0 eth0 | 20:20 |
LeanReox | larsks, tried via the router (im using GRE) | 20:20 |
LeanReox | via the dhcp dnsmasq pid ip | 20:20 |
LeanReox | still no luck | 20:20 |
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LeanReox | tried removing all routes and using the dg larsks | 20:20 |
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larsks | Okay. That's what I would expect to work; you shouldn't need an explicit route for the metadata service. | 20:21 |
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larsks | Where are you getting your Centos 5 images from? I'm wondering if I can boot one locally. | 20:21 |
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larsks | Well, maybe some other time. | 20:26 |
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LeanReox | larsks, crafted the vm from the ISO | 20:29 |
LeanReox | larsks, cause cloud os images from centos5 are not available | 20:29 |
LeanReox | larsks, it starts at centos 6 | 20:29 |
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larsks | Yup, I was just curious. There are a variety of non-official sources for cloud images. | 20:29 |
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utahcon | Anyway to get a better idea what is actually failing in this? http://pastie.org/9942841 | 20:30 |
utahcon | It seems the keystone stuff is good, but when I use the session to query servers, I get a bad request error. | 20:30 |
utahcon | not even a full stack exception, just a string | 20:31 |
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larsks | utahcon: anything in your nova-api.log? | 20:32 |
utahcon | would it be elsewhere than /var/log/nova? | 20:34 |
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larsks | Well...maybe. Typically, it would be /var/log/nova/nova-api.log, but if you're running devstack it could be anywhere. | 20:35 |
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utahcon | larsks: is that a log on the client or server side? | 20:36 |
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larsks | Yes. | 20:36 |
larsks | utahcon: with your code in my environment, the nova.servers.list() call results in a "keystoneclient.exceptions.EmptyCatalog: The service catalog is empty." error. But if I add 'tenant_name=<my_tenant_name>' to the v2.Token() call, it works. | 20:37 |
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utahcon | hmm... so I have to know the tenant before I can use the token? | 20:38 |
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utahcon | interesting | 20:38 |
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utahcon | ok I can work with that | 20:38 |
utahcon | thanks | 20:38 |
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larsks | Well, maybe. I'm not getting a BadRequest error, so maybe you're seeing something different. | 20:39 |
utahcon | yeah, I add a tenant and it works | 20:40 |
larsks | Spiffy. | 20:40 |
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ncamacho | Hello everyone :) ! I have been playing around with openstack the last few days and have been converting the install into scripts that can be ran so that things can be installed automatically. I have run into a snag. Right after I install neutron and add configure it. The host loses network connectivity. Restarting does not fix it. When I uninstall and remove the br-X interfaces I get network connectivity again. I was wondering if | 21:02 |
ncamacho | has had this problem before and if it is a simple “Oh you forgot to make sure, blah…blah…blah was set” :) | 21:02 |
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georgem1 | ncamacho: if you connect to the host using the interface that's been added to br-ex you'll loose connectivity; you have to move that IP address to br-ex when you add the physical interface to br-ex | 21:06 |
RichardRaseley | I am encountering some unexpected behavior when deploying a stack with a Heat template. I am using RDO Icehouse-4 on CentOS 7. The issue is that when creating a stack from this (https://gist.github.com/richardraseley/cc1f945c136c1cb87264) template the Neutron port created has two private IP addresses assigned to it, when this shouldn't be the case. Has anyone else experienced this issue? | 21:06 |
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ncamacho | georgem1: Ahh…so you are saying that eth0 which had ip 1.1.1.1 should be moved over to br-ex so that br-ex has ip 1.1.1.1 now ? Is that correct? | 21:07 |
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ncamacho | georgem1: it must be what you meant because I just did it and it worked:). | 21:09 |
ncamacho | Hmm… that much is not clear in the docs… | 21:09 |
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larsks | RichardRaseley: Is your fixed ip network 192.168.0.0/something? | 21:09 |
ncamacho | Thanks for the help, let me continue on and see how it goes. | 21:09 |
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georgem1 | ncamacho: it's mentioned in the docs but further when it's already late | 21:14 |
ncamacho | georgem1: :) LOL | 21:14 |
ncamacho | ok thanks let me look for it. | 21:15 |
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RichardRaseley | larsks: No, it is a different 10.x network. | 21:15 |
larsks | Okay. Becauseyour OS::Neutron::Port specifies that as an ip address, and the OS::Neutron::FloatingIP resources specifies that as the corresponding "fxied_ip_address". | 21:16 |
larsks | And I was wondering if the fact that you list both an ip_address and subnet_id in your OS::Neutron::Port resource was leading to having two fixed ips assigned. | 21:16 |
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RichardRaseley | larsks:Yes, because if I don't specify the fixed IP address it tells me two addresses are assigned to the port so it can't decide which one to give the floating ip to. | 21:17 |
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larsks | So...if you (a) remove the ip_address param from the OS::Neutron::Port resource, and then (b) remove the fixed_ip_address from the OS::Neutron::FloatingIP resource. Do you still see the same behavior? | 21:18 |
larsks | Also, there is something else wrong with that template...at the bottom are two things that look like outputs, but they are in the resources: section. | 21:19 |
larsks | Is this actually the template you're using, or was this edited for the gist? | 21:19 |
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RichardRaseley | larsks: It was edited for the gist. Had to redact some data. Let me build a new one quick that is more generalized. | 21:20 |
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RichardRaseley | So I can actually share the template. | 21:20 |
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larsks | RichardRaseley: Also (sorry, lots of questions), you are creating your private network with enable_dhcp: false. How are you handling address assignment in your instances? | 21:21 |
georgem1 | ncamacho: it looks like that important note got dropped from the latest version of the doc, but you can find it here: http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt/content/install-neutron.install-plug-in.ovs.html | 21:22 |
georgem1 | ncamacho:search for "Configure the EXTERNAL_INTERFACE without an IP address and in promiscuous mode. Additionally, you must set the newly created br-ex interface to have the IP address that formerly belonged to EXTERNAL_INTERFACE." | 21:22 |
ncamacho | georgem1: Thank you! I was looking for it and thought I was going crazy:) | 21:23 |
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georgem1 | @sam-i-am: maybe you can add that info back in the docs? | 21:24 |
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larsks | georgem1: the thing is, that's only necessary if you're setting up some sort of testing/development environment with a single-interface system. In a production deployment with a "real" router somewhere else on the network, br-ex doesn't need an ip. | 21:25 |
larsks | I wonder if that's why that particular step is not in the guide. | 21:25 |
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linforpros | Hi, Access and Security is set to allow everytning. Floating IP 192.168.2.53 is set. Instance running. nmap is showing all 1000 scanned ports closed. Pinging the host is working! How can I fix it? neutron is set vxlan for type and tenant. | 21:27 |
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larsks | linforpros: ignoring the result of 'ping', does the system have networking up? Can you log in on the console? Does it have an ip assigned on eth0? Do you have outbound access? | 21:28 |
RichardRaseley | larsks: Your question got me thinking. So it is not enough to give a neutron port a static address, we would then have to have some userdata which would configure the interface with that same address? | 21:29 |
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RichardRaseley | larsks: I am just trying to imagine the dataflow... | 21:29 |
larsks | RichardRaseley: Well, normally you would just use dhcp to acquire the address. | 21:29 |
larsks | RichardRaseley: for what it's worth, this slightly simplified template "just works" for me: http://chunk.io/f/4aee16b0ed424428a5ca8b5ca150ed8d | 21:30 |
linforpros | I cannot login on the console. It is saying Starting VNC handshake if I try to access "Instance Console" | 21:30 |
larsks | linforpros: what image are you booting? | 21:30 |
linforpros | wordpress converted from vmdk of turnkey linux version | 21:31 |
larsks | RichardRaseley: But yeah, if you've disabled dhcp, you would need to pass in a static network configuration somehow. | 21:31 |
linforpros | But cirros doesn't work either | 21:31 |
larsks | linforpros: Well, stop using anything else until you can get the cirros image working, because everything else is more complex. | 21:31 |
RichardRaseley | larsks: Right - you would get an address with DHCP in that template, but wouldn't allow you to manually specify one. | 21:31 |
RichardRaseley | larsks: I think I am going to refactor how I am doing this. | 21:32 |
larsks | linforpros: If you can't get a console connection, you probably have a nova config issue. Is this an all-in-one host? Or do you have separate compute nodes? | 21:32 |
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linforpros | larsks: I can login via ssh into cirros. but the Instance Console does not work. | 21:33 |
larsks | linforpros: Understood. Now, about that question ^^^^ | 21:34 |
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linforpros | it is an all-in-one host | 21:34 |
larsks | linforpros: So, wait...you can get an ssh connection to your cirros instance? Using a floating ip, or using some 'ip netns exec' trickery? | 21:34 |
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linforpros | larsks: I can connect via floating ip of 192.168.2.51 | 21:35 |
larsks | So...floating ips are working in your environment? It's just a problem with specific images? | 21:35 |
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linforpros | It seems that images start with no errors, floating ip can be assigned. I cannot understand why nmap for cirros is showing host down. but I can login via ssh into it. | 21:38 |
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georgem1 | larsks: most people connect to the server using the externally connected interface which has an IP assigned, so if they just follow the install doc and add the interface to br-ex they loose connectivity, I think that note was useful at least, maybe can become a warning… | 21:46 |
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larsks | georgem1: Again, I think that's only true if you're doing some sort of all-in-one install. Otherwise, you would (should?) probably have a dedicated nick on a dedicated network for br-ex, and your ingres to the server would be via another interface. | 21:48 |
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linforpros | larsks: I have an instance that is comprised with three images: kernel, initrd and img. I need to set kernel ID but the webinterface has it greyed out. Is there a specific reason for that? | 21:52 |
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larsks | linforpros: where are you looking exactly in the ui? The 'launch instance' screen or somewhere else? | 21:55 |
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linforpros | Yes Launch instance as as Admin,not demo | 21:57 |
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linforpros | Maybe I should do it in "update metadata" in glance? | 21:58 |
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larsks | linforpros: Yeah, I've never worked with the amazon-style images with a separate initrd and kernel. Have these been uploaded to glace with the proper types (presumably aki, ari, and ami)? | 21:59 |
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linforpros | I uploaded them as raw | 21:59 |
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larsks | I think you need to use the appropriate type. | 22:00 |
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larsks | But like I said, I've only ever worked with raw and qcow2 images, so who knows? | 22:00 |
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linforpros | larsks: yes, I need to set appropriate format. Let me work on that. | 22:01 |
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linforpros | I uploaded the three images but the web interface still does not permit to change kernel ID, ramdisk ID. | 22:08 |
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larsks | linforpros: According to http://dachary.org/?p=1379, the kernel_id and ramdisk_id are provided as properties on the ami image itself. | 22:13 |
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dachary | larsks: that was 2.5 years ago, maybe things changed since then. maybe not. | 22:15 |
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larsks | dachary: well, seems to be the case now, too :). | 22:15 |
dachary | cool :-) | 22:15 |
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larsks | At least on my Juno install, "kernel id" and "ramdisk id" are properties that show up in the "image edit" dialog. | 22:15 |
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linforpros | When I click on edit metadata the fields: Kernel ID, and Ramdisk ID are there. Only greyed out. | 22:16 |
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larsks | linforpros: Can you point me at an AMI/AKI/ARI set I can download somewhere? | 22:16 |
larsks | I would be happy to try this out in my environment, but I have nothing to test with. | 22:17 |
larsks | ...although I will be disappear for a while in about 10 minutes... | 22:17 |
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linforpros | I am trying now to add "other" in the form of Kernel_ID, but I wonder what it should exactly be? kernel_id or Kernel_ID | 22:17 |
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larsks | linforpros: the glance property name is 'kernel_id' (and 'ramdisk_id'). | 22:19 |
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larsks | Which you could presumably also set with 'glance image-update' on the command line. | 22:20 |
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linforpros | I mamanged to update metadata via the web interface. It seems to work all right. But I have other issues. Cirros can be logged into, but Web Console "Instance Console" is dead, saying starting handshake. Does anyone know where to look for hints what might have gone wrong? | 22:30 |
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travnewmatic | so i'm doing the openstack test cluster lab thing | 22:36 |
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travnewmatic | i've made a CirrOS instance | 22:36 |
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travnewmatic | an IP address has been assigned in horizon | 22:36 |
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travnewmatic | but theres no ip address in the vm | 22:36 |
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linforpros | All 1000 scanned ports on 192.168.2.56 are closed. But I have specifically opened everyting in the security group. | 23:05 |
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larsks | linforpros: but I thought you had no problems connecting to your cirros image, right? | 23:12 |
larsks | linforpros: for the "instance console" program, check the ip address of the "show only the console" link and make sure it looks sane and that you can connect to it. | 23:13 |
larsks | There is probably an issue with your vncproxy config in /etc/nova/nova.conf. | 23:13 |
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clouddig | is there some way to force shutdown an instance. One of my servers became unresponsive and I can't get it to stop | 23:25 |
clouddig | it's stuck in "powering off" state | 23:25 |
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linforpros | larsks: the link points to the host at port 6080, but lsof -p 6080 shows nothing listening... would that be the problem? | 23:27 |
larsks | linforpros: Sounds like it! If nothing is listening, there's nothing to which to connect. | 23:28 |
larsks | Do you have a nova-novncproxy service running? | 23:28 |
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linforpros | netstat -lntp | grep 6080 This however shows a LISTEN line at 0.0.0.0* | 23:29 |
linforpros | [nova-novncproxy] <defunct> | 23:30 |
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linforpros | I restarted nova-novncproxy and it is now running for two instances of cirros: 1_cirros and 2_cirros, which seems fine. But still no console. | 23:33 |
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Sam-I-Am | linforpros: much of the vnc config lives on the compute nodes. also make sure you're not firewalling anything. | 23:34 |
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linforpros | tcpdump revealing the following: What is this? 192.168.2.10.52704 > 198.105.254.28.5900 I have no idea where is the 198.105.254.28 address coming from. | 23:39 |
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abhirc | is there a preference of choosing devstack or packstack to install a local openstack on a machine in terms of ease of use | 23:39 |
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linforpros | Sam-I-Am: it is a all-in-one installation,theres is no other ip but 192.168.2.10 (the Host) | 23:41 |
Sam-I-Am | abhirc: what do you intend to do with it? develop openstack code, or use openstack? | 23:41 |
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Sam-I-Am | linforpros: http://docs.openstack.org/juno/install-guide/install/apt/content/ch_nova.html#nova-controller-install | 23:41 |
Sam-I-Am | and also the section for the compute node | 23:42 |
Sam-I-Am | give those a read | 23:42 |
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flaf | Hi, do you know if it exists something to have a panel in horizon to manage a ceph radosgw accounts, buckets etc.? | 23:42 |
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flaf | (ceph radosgw is like amazon s3 server) | 23:45 |
Sam-I-Am | i'm not sure | 23:47 |
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linforpros | Sam-I-Am: I changed the value for vncserver_proxyclient_address=192.168.2.10, It was "localhost.Belkin", and I now I can see a little tiny console. How to enlarge it? | 23:55 |
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linforpros | it is wierd, even if I click on see only console, I get a very small console. Do you guys know what settings govern the size of it? | 23:58 |
Sam-I-Am | what browser? | 23:59 |
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Sam-I-Am | and do you mean character size or window size? | 23:59 |
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