Thursday, 2015-03-05

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lothSam-I-Am: Do LBAAS & FWAAS require non-flat networking via neutron?00:03
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Sam-I-Ami dont see why it would matter, but dont know for sure00:07
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lothWell if the traffic is not going through the network node it may not get to inspect the traffic00:08
Sam-I-Amoh, you can do flat networks with a network node00:09
Sam-I-Ami think you mean provider networks00:09
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Sam-I-Amin which case, no.00:09
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lothThose services would have to use a vxlan or other neutron/non-provider network?00:10
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Sam-I-Amthey could use flat, vlan, vxlan, or gre networks... as long as they're not provider networks, meaning that the network node runs an L3 agent to handle nat/routing.00:11
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Sam-I-Amprovider network = your physical infra does All The Things00:12
Sam-I-Amroughly equivalent to vmware's vswitches00:12
lothAll the things00:12
Sam-I-Amjust layer 200:12
Sam-I-Amand security groups, if you want00:13
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watanabe_isaoGood morning to all.:-)00:27
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tds5016hi all. Can someone tell me how I'd access a volume attached to an instance from the instance?01:15
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Sam-I-Amit should have appeared as a scsi disk01:16
Sam-I-Amfdisk -l might show it01:16
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Sam-I-Amyou'd need to label/partition/format/mount it01:17
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lothSam-I-Am: Interesting, i was able to add a lb on the provider external range and gave it a ip from that network and it seems to work01:17
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lothI suppose its still using a network node for that VIP connection01:19
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Sam-I-Amloth: is this using the install guide architecture?01:21
lothflat provider network ext-net and vxlan tenant network01:21
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Sam-I-Amyour instance is on the vxlan network, right?01:22
lothYes, they have an interface on both networks01:22
loththe lb was created with the ext-net subnet and the members were added with their public ip's01:22
Sam-I-Amso they have an IP directly on the flat ext net? and that's the one doing load balancing?01:23
lothYes01:23
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lothwas able to refrence the flat networks subnet-id when i created the VIP neutron lb-vip-create --name http-vip --protocol-port 80 --protocol HTTP --subnet-id 11eeafc7-0aa4-4f8e-8f08-714c7687ea51 --tenant-id c474acbb859149cda15546bebf626d2d testpool01:23
Sam-I-Aminteresting01:24
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loththat pulled it as a fixed ip to use as the VIP, i assume this traffic will still be coming from the network node that the lbaas agent is installed on, ill have to see what mac address it arped as01:25
Sam-I-Amyeah, probably01:25
Sam-I-Amtrue provider network architectures dont have network nodes01:25
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Sam-I-Ambrb food01:25
lothobv, FWAAS wont have this flexibility01:26
lothlol01:26
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nosleep77guy i need to specify an absolute path for zabbix web monitoring. anyone know the default index page for horizon?02:35
nosleep77http://controller/horizon/[this is the page I need]02:35
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larsksnosleep77: Maybe just http://<yourhost>/dashboard/?  In my environment that seems to return a 200 result code.02:44
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nosleep77larsks: I have icehouse and i can access via  http://controller/horizon02:48
nosleep77what I need is the actual page it takes me to02:48
larsksIsn't /horizon an actual page?02:49
nosleep77no its directory02:49
larsksReally? YOu get a directly listing?  Or you can a login page?02:49
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larsksBecause at least on my system, /dashboard/ returns an actual document and makes a good testpoint for a remote health check.02:50
nosleep77i get the login page. but it just means its loading a default page. i need to know that page02:50
larsksSo I wonder if /horizon/ works the same in your environment.02:50
larsksI'm not sure I follow your page/directory distinction here.02:50
larsksIt's not serving up filesystem paths.  It's a dynamic web application.02:50
nosleep77I can test the accessing of the page but not login until i have the actual filename of that page02:50
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nosleep77i need absolute path to the page02:51
nosleep77such as http://controller/horizon/index.html (but its not index.html)02:51
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larsksAgain, I think you are confusing URLs with filesystem paths.  /horizon/ is not in fact a directory.  It's an endpoint in a web application that is producing dynamic content.  There really is not page/directory distinction.  Anyway, maybe someone else will show up later who can give you a better answer...I don't have an icehouse setup handy, and for health checking in my environment I'm just grabbing the02:52
larsks/dashboard/ url and checking that it returns a 200 status code.02:52
nosleep77larsks: i understand what you mean.. that would mean i'm SoL if i want to do web monitoring via zabbix if it generates a dynamic page every time02:53
nosleep77so that's fine when i access controller/horizon i get a 200. but that URL doesn't work if I want to test logging in02:54
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controller1HI06:23
controller1anyone der?06:23
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controller1Is it compulsory to have 3 nodes to set-up Icehouse with neutron networking06:24
controller1?06:24
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SamYaplecontroller1: you can do everything on a singel controller06:59
controller1it is not that 3 node setup means it uses neutron07:00
controller1and 2 nodes means it uses nova networking07:00
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SamYapleno you can do everything on as many or as few "controllers" as you like07:01
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controller1thanks a lot....07:02
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luc__Hi, I’m currently struggling with the setup of a subnet on the external network. Any one could help ?07:23
luc__Do I need this if the VM I need to set will not need to be accessible from the internet ?07:24
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buster_604I have a beginner question regarding Cinder installation on CentSO 707:40
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luc___anyone for a question regarding the setup of the external subnet  ?07:46
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luc___Any idea of this error ? Bad router request: Cidr 192.168.1.0/24 of subnet 3143af25-75f9-4344-8756-83f33d689010 overlaps with cidr 192.168.1.0/24 of subnet ce5b9b0c-a7b2-462a-8d9b-0ad6cacbfbd5 (HTTP 400) (Request-ID: req-19174067-2a11-40b3-839f-585024b28d37)08:30
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luc___I got this one after the ‘neutron router-gateway-set demo-router ext-net’ command08:31
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adinHi10:31
adinDoes anyone know if it is feasible to run OpenStack on VMs under Windows Azure?10:32
adini.e. OpenStack on CentOS on Windows Azure10:32
adinwithout a performance impact negating any possible production use?10:33
luc___Hi, I’m testing openstack installation and I am stuck on the setup of external network (http://docs.openstack.org/juno/install-guide/install/apt/content/neutron_initial-external-network.html)10:33
luc___anyone can help N10:33
luc___?10:33
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adinluc___, explain what your issue is10:35
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adinThen people who casually glance at the channel can help you if they know something about it10:35
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luc___adin: I’ve configure the 3 interfaces on the network node (maangement is 192.168.1.13, instance tunnel is 192.168.3.1, and no ip for external network)10:36
luc___from the controller node I’ve created a network10:36
luc___and I do not understand what is needed when it comes to create an external subnet for this network10:37
luc___I’m stuck at the step when external network and tenant network needs to be created10:37
adinWell I have no idea :P10:37
luc___:(10:38
luc___do you know if I can use private ips for both external and tenants subnetwork ?10:38
luc___Regarding, your question for Windows Azur, sorry, I’m to  new to OpenStack to answer :)10:39
adinI'm also new to OpenStack, so I have no idea10:40
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adinbut if you don't need them to be accessible from the internet10:40
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adinThen I would imagine it would work10:40
adinbut I really don't know10:40
luc___I tried assignin 192.168.1.0 to both but it seems that cannot be done that way10:41
luc___I cannot create router as the ip collide it seems10:41
luc___do you think I could create 192.168.1.20 to 30 and 192.168.1.31 to 41 for instance ?10:42
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luc___I create the external subnet with:10:54
luc___neutron subnet-create ext-net --name ext-subnet --allocation-pool start=192.168.1.211,end=192.168.1.220 --disable-dhcp --gateway 192.168.1.1 192.168.1.1/2410:54
luc___and the tenant one with:10:54
luc___neutron subnet-create ext-net --name ext-subnet --allocation-pool start=192.168.1.221,end=192.168.1.230 --disable-dhcp --gateway 192.168.1.1 192.168.1.1/2410:54
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luc___but it’s not valid: Invalid input for operation: Requested subnet with cidr: 192.168.1.0/24 for network: e1425f16-61e2-4261-9ec8-3dcb3c7aeb4b overlaps with another subnet. (HTTP 400) (Request-ID: req-83409784-6d68-4d19-902f-2afe2cdc20f5)10:54
luc___any idea ?10:54
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wigwam_workluc___: you actually defined the same subnet twice, with different allocation pool only... this cannot work I guess ... just take any private range not yet used in your network and assign it as tenant network12:35
wigwam_worki.e. 192.168.2.0/2412:35
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osc_khojhi, guys,,,I met some problem during installing the docker on openstack juno in centos 7 latest...Can u help me?12:46
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osc_khojIt's first time to coonect IRC.12:47
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karimbhi folks12:55
karimbcinder backup-create doesnt work when using a ceph backend.  trace is http://pastebin.com/wMyk0ih5 any clue ?12:55
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Ganjawizardhi everyone. i have server running with devstack and docker. i succesfully created a docker instance, but the console is not available :/ ... my biggest problem is, that i want to run windows seperate but nova fails ... i think because the local.conf and nova.conf was set to docker as hypervisor.12:57
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Ganjawizardcan i make both work?12:57
Ganjawizardi mean kvm and docker12:57
Sam-I-Ami dont know ceph, but seems like the driver is having trouble connecting to it. probably a config error somewhere.12:57
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Sam-I-Amkarimb: ^12:57
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luc___wigwam_work: I have created the ext subnet with: neutron subnet-create ext-net --name ext-subnet --allocation-pool start=192.168.4.1,end=192.168.4.50 --disable-dhcp --gateway 192.168.4.1 192.168.4.1/2412:58
Sam-I-AmGanjawizard: i havent used docker, but in the case of other hypervisors, its 1 type per node.12:58
karimbSam-I-Am, yeah, the line 2015-03-05 13:52:56.111 4368 DEBUG cinder.backup.manager [req-ac3dd818-59b6-483b-aa6f-c918b7e848e5 maq-admin 1a6430a017be44f3a69cbc2e4ec69096 - - -] Driver requested for volume_backend 'None'. _get_driver /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/cinder/backup/manager.py:135 doesnt look good12:58
luc___wigwam_work: but got Gateway ip 192.168.4.1 conflicts with allocation pool 192.168.4.1-192.168.4.50 (HTTP 409) (Request-ID: req-43f20820-a833-49d6-aff8-f59b7c812755)12:59
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luc___wigwam_work: my 3 machines (controller, network, compute are bhind the same physical router, 192.168.1.1)13:01
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luc___wigwam_work: the demo-subnet is 192.162.1.0/24  {"start": "192.162.1.2", "end": "192.162.1.254"13:02
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luc___wigwam_work: As I have a single router with IP 192.168.1.1, how can I use the same one to configure 2 sub network ?13:04
luc___wigwam_work: probably a stupid question but I cannot make my mind clear regarding this networking pb13:05
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Sam-I-Amluc___: each node only has one network interface?13:08
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luc___Sam-I-Am: network node has 2 Nics, one used for the management and the instance tunnel network13:12
Sam-I-Ameverything else has 1?13:12
luc___you mean physical ?13:13
Sam-I-Amyeah13:13
luc___yes13:13
luc___only once physical NIC connected13:13
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luc___for compute1 and controller13:13
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GanjawizardSam-I-Am: do you know if i can set multiple nodes in devstack?13:14
Sam-I-Amso, on the network node, you'll have to make br-ex work using the management interface. which means... br-ex must contain an ip, and a port on that interface.13:14
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Sam-I-AmGanjawizard: it should do multiple nodes13:14
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wigwam_workluc___: you can use neutron as a router for a tenant network I think ... if you don't want to, and you only have one physical subnet, just create ext-net, no need to create separate network I think13:15
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Sam-I-Amwigwam_work: if true cloud networks are wanted, just creating ext-net wont work (and doesnt get around the one network interface with routable IPs problem with br-ex)13:16
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wigwam_workSam-I-Am: I am an openstack newbie too, but this is exactly what I want to achieve so I mentioned as an option too ... I don't need the true cloud network, I need smooth integration with physical network... thanks for your help!13:18
Sam-I-Amwigwam_work: so you're looking at provider networks13:19
Sam-I-Amwhich are similar to vmware vswitches, except openstack also manages vm IPs using dhcp.13:19
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luc___Sam-I-Am: this is the ifconfig of my netwokr node: http://pastie.org/private/lpjykds1cdjqdexbhuzgiw13:21
luc___basically, I do not need the VM to be reacheable from the internet13:22
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Sam-I-Amso only eth1 is working?13:22
luc___on eth0 I have setup: auto eth013:23
luc___iface eth0 inet manual13:23
luc___        up ip link set dev $IFACE up13:23
luc___        down ip link set dev $IFACE down13:23
luc___I just followed the doc for this one13:23
Sam-I-Ambut... does it connect to anything?13:23
luc___from the controller, I have not created any ex subnet, could that be the reason why ?13:24
Sam-I-Amyou said you only had one network.. 192.168.1.x, and its on eth113:24
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luc___on eth1 I have 192.168.1.x13 on eth1:0 I have 192.168.3.113:25
luc___eth1 for management13:25
luc___eth1:0 for instance tunnel13:25
Sam-I-Amyeah, you dont need aliases13:25
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wigwam_workI have a design question: Bacically every component of openstack needs to connect to a database. Every nova compute node, cinder storage node, etc. Is it better to run one database server on the controller node and let all the components to connect to it, or to have separated servers for single components? What is the best practice?13:26
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Sam-I-Amtry this... give every node an ip on 192.168.1.x for eth1. get rid of the aliases. forget about eth0 (assuming it isnt connected to anything).13:27
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Sam-I-Amthen, because you only have one interface, you need to "move" the network node's IP from eth1 to br-ex, and then do 'ovs-vsctl add-port br-ex eth1'13:28
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Sam-I-Amthen, change the "local_ip" in each of the ml2_conf.ini on your network and compute nodes to use the management IP instead of the alias you got rid of13:29
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Sam-I-Amonce you get all that stuff working, you can create the neutron networks13:30
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luc___Sam-I-Am: so you mean I should use the same ip for the management network and for the instance tunnel network ?13:33
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Sam-I-Amwell, same network range13:36
Sam-I-Amopenstack doesn't care13:36
Sam-I-Amideally you need more than one interface, but since you dont have that, you make compromises13:37
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luc___Sam-I-Am: If I need to, I could use the other NIC that is not connected on those machines. Would it be better to have 2 NICs for those 3 nodes ?13:38
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trueneuHi. Please correct me if I'm wrong, can I use the token that can be obtained via keystone token-get to authenticate in nova, glance etc. instead of password?13:39
osc_khojfor performance 2 nic & nove-nework is better,,but other reason,,,for example,,security,,,we use 3 nic..13:39
osc_khojluc_13:40
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osc_khojtrueneu: of course..13:41
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trueneuosc_khoj, I should be able to get this working by setting env OS_AUTH_TOKEN to the token value and that's basically the only change, right?13:42
Sam-I-Amluc___: configuration with more than 1 nic (similar to the install guide architecture) is a bit easier to do, and easier to debug, but you can do everything with just 113:42
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osc_khojtrueneu: I think so..13:44
trueneuThanks, osc_khoj.13:45
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luc___Sam-I-Am: ok so I’ll go with just one then. So basically for the network node:  I just need to use eth1 and set 192.168.1.13 (ip of this node) to this instance ?13:49
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luc___and same thing, just use 192.168.1.18 o the conmpute node13:50
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Sam-I-Amyes13:50
luc___Sam-I-Am: I’m not sure to get the ‘you need to "move" the network node's IP from eth1 to br-ex’ part though.13:50
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wigwam_workSam-I-Am: I tried to use provider networks with vlan ml2 module (compute node is connected to trunk switchport), however it doesn't work. When I create neutron network with segmentation id set to physical vlan in our network and then launch an instance with nic in that net. I tried to arping the gate from the instance and sniff on the host machine. I see the traffic when sniffing on tap device, the linux bridge, the br-int ovs bridge. But no tr13:53
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Sam-I-Amluc___: take a look at this for a hint - basically, you need to bring eth1 up with no IP, then have a br-ex in /etc/network/interfaces with the actual IP address13:57
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Sam-I-Amwigwam_work: your message was too long13:57
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luc___Sam-I-Am: thanks, I’ll study that (and will work to enhance my network knowledge at the same time I think :) )13:58
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Ganjawizardcan i set up a multi node devstack on a single server?14:03
Sam-I-Amno, it wouldnt be multi-node. (unless you run devstack in VMs or containers, I guess)14:03
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GanjawizardSam-I-Am: well ... shit. i have a raspberry ... but the connection from here to our provider is pretty lame. and a raspberry isnt powerful enough run the controller node inclusive docker ^^14:06
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Ganjawizardbut can you tell me, if i would go to use openstack for production use. do i need also more than 1 node to run multiple hypervisors?14:07
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luc___Sam-I-Am: is the bringing stuff usefull if I do not need to have access to the VM from the internet ?14:08
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Sam-I-Amluc___: does the vm need to access the internet though?14:10
luc___yes14:10
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Sam-I-AmGanjawizard: most likely.14:10
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Sam-I-AmGanjawizard: i'm not familiar with how the container services work though... might be possible to combine something.14:11
Sam-I-Amluc___: then you still need the br-ex stuff14:11
GanjawizardSam-I-Am: thank you very much for your help.14:11
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wigwam_workSam-I-Am: sorry14:15
wigwam_workSam-I-Am: I tried to use provider networks with vlan ml2 module (compute node is connected to trunk switchport), however it doesn't work.14:15
wigwam_workSam-I-Am: I create neutron network with segmentation  id set to physical vlan in our network and then launch an instance with nic in that net. I tried to arping the gate from the instance and sniff on the host machine.14:15
luc___Sam-I-Am: are there any risk to use the same ip for both management and instance tunnel ?14:15
wigwam_workI see the traffic  when sniffing on tap device, the linux bridge, the br-int ovs bridge. But no traffic seem to be forwarded to the br-eth0 (physnet1) ovs bridge. Any ideas what can be wrong? When I create  separate bridge br-vlan3, add eth0.3 to it and use flat provider network, it works...14:15
Sam-I-Amluc___: not for a lab14:15
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Sam-I-Amwigwam_work: what sort of architecture is this? multi-node, how many nics, etc?14:16
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wigwam_workSam-I-Am: you mean the physical net? this is my /etc/network/interfaces portion: http://openpaste.org/cf8fab1214:19
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wigwam_workit's bit more complicated because of the bonding, but basically there's no difference for neutron i guess14:20
Sam-I-Amwigwam_work: seems like you're messing with ovs at the system level?14:21
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wigwam_workSam-I-Am: from what I've read in documentation, you have to create the ovs bridge and add physical interface to it on system level... then create the physical net and map it to that bridge using bridge_mappings in ml2_conf.ini ... so i did14:23
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Sam-I-Amodd.14:25
Sam-I-Amyou create the ovs bridges using ovs-vsctl14:26
Sam-I-Amthey reside in another database14:26
Sam-I-Amthey should not be referenced in /etc/network/interfaces except in unusual situations (like if you need an ip address on br-ex)14:26
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wigwam_workSam-I-Am: ok, I understand. However, it cannot influent the functionality, right? This is the output of ovs-vsctl show: http://openpaste.org/e10Cb78114:31
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Sam-I-Amwhat do mean influence the functionality?14:33
Sam-I-Amwhat is br-bond?14:33
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wigwam_workSam-I-Am: br-bond0 is manually configured ovs bridge, with the physical interface added to it14:36
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Sam-I-Amwhy do you need a bridge here instead of just using a bonded interface?14:37
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luc___Sam-I-Am: in fact, what is the problem of having aliases in the network interface ? Why could not I define some of them as ports of the br-ex bridge instead of creating br-ex i network/interfaces ?14:40
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wigwam_workSam-I-Am: I thought I have to use a bridge as a physical network in bridge_mappings ... can I actually do something like this: bridge_mappings = physnet1:bond0 ?14:42
Sam-I-Amluc___: aliases are not really interfaces14:42
Sam-I-Amluc___: they're fake IPs with the same mac address14:43
Sam-I-Amyou cant bind layer 2 things (like bridges) to them14:43
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Sam-I-Amwigwam_work: no, the mappings point to ovs bridges14:44
Sam-I-Ami'm just confused why you're doing OVS stuff at the system level14:44
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wigwam_workSam-I-Am: what is the right configuration then? if i drop ovs bridges from interfaces config, how should i define them?14:48
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Sam-I-Amso, you just have two phys interfaces... bonded into one?14:50
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wigwam_workSam-I-Am: yes14:51
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Sam-I-Ami'd just configure bond0 in your interfaces file if you intent to use one network for everything. if you're bringing your management/external networks in as vlans (or something) you'll need more config14:52
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osc_khojI installed docker on openstack  but there are some error to make instance...14:52
osc_khojMar  5 09:45:53 Lion nova-compute: 2015-03-05 09:45:53.800 12298 TRACE nova.compute.manager [instance: 41992294-b61e-48cb-9f55-d199ecb66c49] AttributeError: 'Instance' object has no attribute 'flavor'14:52
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wigwam_workSam-I-Am: yes, I'm bringing them in vlans... but that's the work of vlan type of provider networks, no? if i define neutron network with proper segmentation_id, it should tag the traffic automagically, no?14:54
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Sam-I-Amwhich things are coming in as vlans? your management traffic? tenant provider networks? both?14:55
Sam-I-Amdo you intend to have any tunnel-type networks?14:55
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Sam-I-Amis this just one box?14:55
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wigwam_workSam-I-Am: all... I have a single compute node box now, but I will have several dozens in production after deployment...14:56
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Sam-I-Amso one controller, one compute for now?14:57
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wigwam_workSam-I-Am: yes ... + one cinder storage but I guess that doesn't matter14:58
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Sam-I-Amnot really.14:58
wigwam_workand I don't have any tunnel networks, I don't have gre/vxlan drivers enabled in ml2 config14:58
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Sam-I-Amok14:58
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wigwam_workI can make it work with flat provider networks, if you look at 'br-vlan3' in my ovs-vsctl output.... But for every subnet, it would mean adding network configuration manually on every compute node, changing the config file of neutron, restarting neutron and adding neutron nets ... So I would prefer the vlan provider15:01
luc___Sam-I-Am: just ot be sure: in my network/interfaces how should I defined br-ex and eth1 so that br-ex get an ip and eth1 did not get one ?15:01
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Sam-I-Amluc___: there's some articles on the internet on how to do it15:04
Sam-I-Amwigwam_work: you shouldnt have to do that15:04
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wigwam_workSam-I-Am: you mean with flat network? I cannot imagine how to simplify it (except of vlan provider, which I think is much more elegant solution)15:06
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Sam-I-Amwigwam_work: so your management is on the ip on bond0... and your vm traffic?15:07
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wigwam_workSam-I-Am: vm traffic is on bond0 as well, but vlan tagged15:08
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wigwam_workbut I will have many vm networks, not just single one... and the networks can change frequently15:09
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Sam-I-Amok. for a prod environment, i wouldnt share an interface for management and vm traffic. mostly because openvswitch can/will break, and then you lose management connectivity. or your VMs consume all the bandwidth. control/data plane separation is important.15:10
Sam-I-Amso, that being said...15:10
luc___Sam-I-Am: wigwam_work: thanks for your help guys, I need to better understand all thise network stuff before asking some more neebies questions :)15:10
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istevenmoni know i will get crucified by this question but i am not clear yet if openstack is an orchestator or virtualization and cloud platform.15:10
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Sam-I-Amluc___: it looks sort of like this - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17546627/how-do-i-configure-vswitch-with-openstack15:11
Sam-I-Amluc___: well, the "br-ex" part15:11
Sam-I-Amthe eth0 part... yuck. you should use what's in the install guide there when it says "manual"15:11
Sam-I-Amistevenmon: its everything15:11
Sam-I-Amyou can orchestrate virtual infrastructure, run it like VMware, or provide true IaaS cloud functionality15:12
osc_khojhi, is there anyone to know docker on openstack? after installing docker, I cannot make instacne...by below error15:12
osc_khoj] AttributeError: 'Instance' object has no attribute 'flavor'15:12
istevenmonSam-I-Am: awesome thanks15:12
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luc___Sam-I-Am: great, thanks once again15:14
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wigwam_workSam-I-Am: thanks for the advice... the stackoverflow question is a bit different, it was l3 routing problem, I am stuck at l2 ... I will try to debug it though... I might separate the physical networks later, if it causes problems, but I would prefer QoS solution on our l2 topology, so we can preserve uniform topology in our datacenter. And for openvswitch .. if it really breaks, then I cannot use it in production at all, but I've read it's pro15:16
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Sam-I-Amwigwam_work: long lines :/15:16
Sam-I-Amwigwam_work: that stackoverflow thing wasnt for you15:17
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Sam-I-Amwigwam_work: so, another question. do you plan to have any self-service networking?15:17
Sam-I-Ammeaning, tenants can create/destroy networks15:17
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luc___wigman_work: stackoverflow was for me :)15:21
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roziehello. does nova backup rely on the same mechanism as snapshot (nova image-create)? and: how reliable it is for DBs (mysql, postgres)?15:24
rozieI know I can dump DB and then I'll have file backup, but in practice, how reliable it is for restoring images for DB machines?15:25
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F4RR3Lhello15:27
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istevenmonSam-I-Am: is there a tool for converting physical servers to virtual in openstack? kinda vconverter in vmware?15:28
F4RR3LI'm pretty new at virtualization15:28
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F4RR3LCould someone tell me if I use openstack, can I limit monthly/daily traffic bandwidth?15:29
F4RR3Lfor a VM15:29
Sam-I-Amistevenmon: there probably is somewhere. i think you can convert vmware machines to openstack stuff, so it might be a two-step process.15:29
wigwam_workSam-I-Am: I don't think so ... I only want to connect my VMs to the networks defined elsewhere15:29
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Sam-I-Amwigwam_work: ok, so purely provider networks then.15:30
wigwam_workyes15:30
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istevenmonSam-I-Am: hmm i will try to find a one step tool otherwise thanks for the idea to use vmware as a middle step15:31
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Sam-I-Amwigwam_work: so, you'll want to create bond0 in the interfaces file, then use ovs-vsctl to create br-ex and add a port on bond0. then, configure your management IP on br-ex (assuming its not a tagged vlan)15:39
Sam-I-Amwigwam_work: alternatively bring your management network in as a tagged vlan15:39
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Sam-I-Amthen you can put the IP on bond0.xxx, and attach br-ex to bond0 ... which keeps it separate from ovs15:40
mzs29is it the right place to ask openstack swift question?15:40
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Sam-I-Amsometimes.15:41
mzs29i'm trying to use swift with an s3 client15:41
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wigwam_workSam-I-Am: yes, I can do this for mgmt network ... but it still does not solve my vlan problem, as mgmt network is just one but there will be dozens of vm networks ... and I would prefer not to create vlan interfaces (bond0.xx) and bridges for every one of them15:42
Sam-I-Amyou wont have to15:42
Sam-I-Amneutron+ovs will create your vlans in br-ex15:42
mzs29i don't know what to use for AWSAccessKeyId15:42
Sam-I-Ammzs29: thats out of my knowledge zone :/15:42
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wigwam_workSam-I-Am: you mean with vlan provider, yes? something like: neutron net-create vm-network-1 --router:external True --provider:physical_network physnet1 --provider:network_type vlan --provider:segmentation_id 3 --shared15:43
wigwam_work?15:43
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Sam-I-Amwigwam_work: well, you dont need --router:external because you're not using L3 services15:44
wigwam_workthat should create supercomplex topology on every compute node like this: http://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide-cloud/content/figures/14/a/a/common/figures/under-the-hood-scenario-1-ovs-compute.png15:44
Sam-I-Ambut yes, that15:44
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Sam-I-Amisnt that what you want?15:45
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wigwam_workyes, that's what I am trying to achieve15:45
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wigwam_workbut it doesn't work15:45
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Sam-I-Amit doesnt work because of a config error somewhere15:45
Sam-I-Amand... your weird ovs/bonding mess15:46
wigwam_workthe traffic is lost between br-int and br-bond0, the patch ports are configured correctly according to the picture15:46
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Sam-I-Amclean up the hosts, get your management network in the right place (either on br-ex, or bond0.XXX) on all nodes, and we can fix the rest.15:47
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wigwam_workSam-I-Am: ok, thanks for the advices.. I try to tear down the bond and do the configuration with eth0 only, remove ovs bridges from /etc/network/interfaces and will see if that helps15:47
Sam-I-Amyou can use a bond, just don't configure ovs stuff there.15:48
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luc___Sam-I-Am: I’ve done what you told me (http://pastie.org/private/zu9aq9sf7gv9qwakpzt28a) and created 2 networks from the controller node (demo-ext and ex-net) how should I create subnet ? Could I use same 192.168.1.x ?15:53
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Sam-I-Amluc___: ok. can you ping 192.168.1.13 from the othe nodes?16:03
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skaIn Neutron agents, what is diff between "enabled" and "alive" ?16:06
luc___Sam-I-Am: good news.. yes :)16:06
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Sam-I-Amluc___: ok. in ml2_conf.ini, what did you set "local_ip" to on the network and compute nodes?16:07
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Sam-I-Amska: example?16:08
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luc___Sam-I-Am: on the network: 192.168.1.13, on the compute: 192.168.1.1816:09
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Sam-I-Amok. are all your services up and running (see 'nova service-list' and 'neutron agent-list')16:09
Sam-I-Ami'm guessing you followed most of the rest of the install guide16:10
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skaSam-I-Am: I meant admin_state_up vs alive.16:21
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luc___Sam-I-Am: from the controller: nova-cert, nova-consoleauth, nova-scheduler, nova-conductor, nova-compute are running16:24
luc___also: Open vSwitch agent, DHCP agent, L3 agent, Open vSwitch agent, Metadata agent are running16:24
Sam-I-Amska: can you show me some example output?16:24
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Sam-I-Amluc___: good16:25
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Sam-I-Amluc___: do you have any existing networks created?16:25
luc___Sam-I-Am: the  problem I had is to know how to create the 2 subnets (tenant and external)16:25
luc___I have 2 networks16:25
luc___demo-net and ext-net16:26
luc___but no subnets yest16:26
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Sam-I-Amok. can you pastebin your ml2_conf.ini on the network and compute nodes?16:26
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luc___Sam-I-Am: this is this guy: http://pastebin.com/03t2kW0F16:33
Sam-I-Amluc___: looks good16:34
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Sam-I-Amas the admin tenant, you should be able to create the flat external network. when you select the allocation range, it cannot include any existing IP addresses. i'd use something small like 201-210.16:35
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luc___Sam-I-Am: do you mean with those floating IPs ? neutron subnet-create ext-net --name ext-subnet --allocation-pool start=192.168.1.201,end=192.168.1.210 --disable-dhcp --gateway 192.168.1.1 192.168.1.0/16 ?16:38
Sam-I-Amis your network really a /16?16:39
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luc___sorry /2416:39
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luc___but I meant, I should use those internal IPs for the creation of the external net ?16:40
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Sam-I-Amyeah. thats your only network isnt it?16:40
luc___yes :16:40
luc___:)16:40
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Sam-I-Amyou dont really have a range of public IPs16:41
Sam-I-Amso yeah...16:41
Sam-I-Amits as external as it gets16:41
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luc___ok, got it :) So for the dmeo-net I should also use a range of ip, say 211-220 on the same network then ?16:43
skaSam-I-Am: Ok.. http://paste.debian.net/159791/16:43
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skaI think alive is running state... admin_state_up is just ability to manage it..16:43
Sam-I-Amluc___: no, the demo net doesnt need a range. its completely internal to openstack, and can use any IP range. however, i dont recommend using the same one as your external network16:43
Sam-I-Amluc___: so... use something like 192.168.2.0/2416:44
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Sam-I-Amska: what are you using to get this output?16:44
skaIts possibler that l3-agent only is alive when it has a task to complete.16:44
skaSam-I-Am: neutron agent-show <id=of-agent>16:45
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Sam-I-Amska: how does it compare to neutron agent-list (the smiley face)16:46
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luc___Sam-I-Am: Ok, but should I use the same gatewawy 192.168.1.1 ? neutron subnet-create demo-net --name demo-subnet --gateway 192.168.1.1 192.168.2.0/2416:47
Sam-I-Amno16:47
Sam-I-Amit would be --gateway 192.168.2.1 192.168.2.0/2416:48
Sam-I-Amits a separate network16:48
skaSam-I-Am: it is consistent.. I was just curious aobut the difference in meanings..16:48
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skal3-agent doesn't start for me. complaining about fwaas not being enabled in l3 config.16:49
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luc___Sam-I-Am: yes ! Thanks, I was able to attach the router to the subnet and to the external network this time :)16:50
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Sam-I-Amska: what kind of config are you using?16:50
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luc___Sam-I-Am: I have a lot to digest now :)16:51
Sam-I-Amluc___: cool. the router should have used the lowest IP in that range you created ... 201 maybe?16:51
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Sam-I-Ammight be able to ping it16:51
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luc___Sam-I-Am: I can ping 192.168.1.201 yes !16:52
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Sam-I-Amyay16:53
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einarrwhat's the status of the nova dns-* commands in juno? do they require Designate, and if so, can I get ready-made Designate packages for juno anywhere?16:53
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Sam-I-Ameinarr: i dont think anyone packages designate yet16:54
Sam-I-Ammost of the distros only package the integrated release16:54
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einarrdo the nova dns-* commands require designate, or is there som other possible backend?16:54
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[Outcast]is there a different channel for devstack questions?17:00
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Sam-I-Am[Outcast]: depends on the question17:00
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[Outcast]having trouble is tempest initializing when running stack.sh17:01
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Sam-I-Amlike what?17:01
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luc___Sam-I-Am: thanks a lot17:02
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[Outcast]connections timeout when getting flavor-list from nova: http://paste.openstack.org/show/189367/17:03
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rp1369Hi, at dashboard when i click at resource usage, it reports "Daily Usage Report Per Project" table. then there is a column in this table named as "Value (Avg)". could i some how change the label "Value (Avg)" to something else ?17:03
skaSam-I-Am: I'm not sure.. Packstack config?17:04
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Sam-I-Am[Outcast]: sounds like nova isnt actually starting up. are you doing anything weird with the config?17:04
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Sam-I-Amska: oh, maybe. sounds like something is wrong if l3 wont start.17:04
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Sam-I-Amska: perhaps a partial config somewhere17:05
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skahttp://paste.debian.net/ .. I don't have any Fwaas configs in l3-agent conf..17:05
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Sam-I-Amerr, link needs more stuff17:05
[Outcast]Sam-I-Am: when I check netstat nova appears to be up is running since port 8774 is listening17:05
Sam-I-Am[Outcast]: no firewalls enabled, right?17:05
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[Outcast]Sam-I-Am: nothing but what stack.sh sets up in iptables17:06
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[Outcast]Sam-I-Am: I will double check. I can connect to it from CLI curl and telnet.17:08
Sam-I-Am[Outcast]: is it listening on localhost (127.0.0.1) ?17:08
Sam-I-Amalso make sure there's no weird issues with dns for the local host17:09
Sam-I-Amlike... hostname should probably resolve to a real ip17:09
skaIs there a separate package (yum or other) for fwaas ?17:09
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[Outcast]Sam-I-Am: tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:8774            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN17:09
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[Outcast]Sam-I-Am: I have also tried the interface ip as well17:10
Sam-I-Amska: i didnt think so, at least on ubuntu17:10
skaI don't see one in the package list..17:10
skaI must need to add something as the error log states.17:10
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decciAny idea if there is any monitoring tool for horizon17:21
decciI mean monitoring script for horizon17:22
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skaSam-I-Am: I got it working.. /etc/neutron/fwaas_driver.ini had all commented out.17:23
decciAll I am looking for is:reate a script using bash/curl or python2 (standard library only) with no outside dependencies.  Steps Access horizon dashboard Log into horizon Pull some data from login area Log out of horizon17:23
Sam-I-Amska: interesting17:23
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decciIs it possible ?17:24
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[Outcast]Sam-I-Am: looks like there is something funking with the configuration of iptables17:25
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ndruSo, everytime my dev environment's firewall is restarted, all my guests' file systems go read-only, I'm using LVM on a block storage node. Where should I start digging to try and get a more forgiving configuration to allow there to be a few seconds of network interruption without having such results?17:39
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Sam-I-Amndru: you shouldnt be running strong host-based firewalls17:43
Sam-I-Amopenstack and system-level tools it requires (like iscsi for block storage) are rather complex.17:43
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rp1369Hi, may i ask that if i have changed some dashboard python code variables, how can i make it take effect on dashboard?17:44
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ndruSam-I-Am: I understand. And we aren't using such a layout in production, dev just has far less options :(17:45
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Sam-I-Amndru: does your firewall block iscsi and you have to open it up again, or does simply restarting it kill your connections?17:47
ndruSam-I-Am: Simply restarting it kills our connections.17:47
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Sam-I-Amndru: does it include a script to clear all the tables?17:52
Sam-I-Amis it natting stuff?17:52
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[Outcast]Sam-I-Am: noob mistake I was running from master branch. Needed to get on a stable branch.17:53
ndruSam-I-Am: I'm sure it does. It's a closed-source proprietary firewall. But, I think that's actually a red herring. One of the switches between them is showing loss of link connectivity on one of the ports.17:53
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Sam-I-Am[Outcast]: whoops17:56
Sam-I-Amndru: so link loss flushes tables...17:57
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ndruSam-I-Am: So, I think it had nothing to do with the firewall at all. I just moved all of openstack off of the troublesome switch, going to go fix all the guests and then we can see if it happens again.18:02
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anik80hello all :)18:06
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scott5Hi, my openstack "Daily Usage Report Per Project" in dashboard, doesnt show memory.usage meter... it is juno release and ubuntu 14.04 all nodes18:13
scott5i see nova, vcpus, instance,memory meters but not memory.usage meter18:14
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nosleep77hi guys, i see something online that ceilometer is supposed to have a section in horizon but i dont see anythign there (Icehouse here)18:35
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nosleep77err I thin I was expecting to see "Ceilometer", is the Resource Usage item the one that gets its data from Ceilometer?18:38
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Sam-I-Ami think so18:39
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eeceetooI need help getting my storage node able to authenicate cinder-volume service18:52
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eeceetooYesterday neither cinder service was being allowed to auth by rabbitmq18:53
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eeceetoolast night I got local auth to rabbit working for cinder-scheduler18:53
eeceetootoday the volume service can't auth18:53
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Sam-I-Amwhat version of rabbit? guest user/password?18:56
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eeceetooii  rabbitmq-server                     3.2.4-118:57
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Sam-I-Amwhat distro is this on?18:57
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eeceetooI see nowhere in the docs where you specify actual username18:58
eeceetooUbuntu 14 LTS18:58
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eeceetoohttp://pastie.org/1000292618:59
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eeceetoocinder-volume.log on the block node: http://pastie.org/1000293019:00
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eeceetooall three of my nodes are ntp synced19:01
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Sam-I-Ameeceetoo: what do you have for rabbit_userid ?19:01
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eeceetooSam-I-Am: 10619:02
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eeceetooI assumed you meant the system user id19:02
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eeceetoobut I was prolly wrong19:02
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Sam-I-Amin the cinder.conf file19:04
Sam-I-Am(this is a cinder problem, right?)19:04
eeceetooyessir19:04
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eeceetooso rabbit_userid = 106 ?19:04
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Sam-I-Amit should be 'guest'19:04
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Sam-I-Amrabbit has internal usernames19:05
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Sam-I-Amthey're not the same as system ids19:05
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eeceetooso rabbit_userid = guest but where does that syntax go?19:05
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Sam-I-Amin cinder.conf, near the other rabbit things you configured19:06
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Sam-I-Amlike rabbit_password19:06
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Sam-I-Amit *should* default to guest, but for troubleshooting, you should configure it19:06
eeceetoowhere19:07
eeceetoooh, cinder.conf19:07
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eeceetoowill try that19:07
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jasonsbhi all, is anybody doing multi-provider l3 and dvr?19:14
Sam-I-Ammulti-provider l3?19:14
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jasonsbhi Sam-I-Am19:15
jasonsbyes, multi provider like this: http://blog.oddbit.com/2014/05/28/multiple-external-networks-wit/19:16
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jasonsbbut i was hoping to do it at the edge19:16
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jasonsbit looks tricky19:16
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EmilienMjasonsb: I think a good start is to read the Provider network official documentation, it looks like what you need :)19:17
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jasonsboh19:18
jasonsbsorry :)19:18
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Sam-I-Ami dont see why DVR couldnt handle extra external networks19:19
jasonsbhere? http://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide-cloud/content/provider_attributes.html19:20
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jasonsbSam-I-Am: I was getting confused because there is a qrouter and a fip namespace19:20
Sam-I-Ami dont think so19:20
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Sam-I-Amin your case, it seems like you want multiple external networks... and then some tenant networks19:21
Sam-I-Amtrue provider networks go straight to the VMs, no network node... which i dont think you want here.19:21
jasonsbi was worried that the multi provider and floating ip stuff wouldn't work because everything doesn't happen in one namespace anymore19:21
Sam-I-Amwith dvr, the l3 agent resides on the network and compute nodes. every l3 agent would need configuration for all external networks.19:22
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jasonsbideally, each VM could have a floating ip from one or both of the provider networks19:22
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jasonsband network traffic would be routed at edge19:22
Sam-I-Amedge meaning... your physical network?19:23
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Sam-I-Amor the l3 agents19:23
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jasonsbVM to l3 to physical network all on the same node19:25
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jasonsbthe l3 agent on compute node has the config for both provider networks19:26
Sam-I-Amthen you probably want dvr19:26
jasonsbexactly19:27
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jasonsbif this doesn't sound strange to you then this gives me hope19:27
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jasonsbi was worried that dvr only routes to br-ex19:27
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Sam-I-Amwhat do you mean only routes to br-ex?19:28
Sam-I-Ami dont think neutron cares what you call your external bridge(s)19:29
Sam-I-Amor how many of them you have19:29
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Sam-I-Ambr-ex is usually just used as an example19:29
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jasonsbok good.  so what i need to do is config multi-provider l3 without dvr19:30
jasonsbtake a note of the routes to each provider network19:30
jasonsband then turn on dvr and make sure both routes are still there19:30
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Sam-I-Amthis isnt making sense19:31
Sam-I-Amwhat do you mean routes?19:31
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jasonsbi think i'm being a little sloppy with terminology19:33
jasonsbdo multi-provider l3 without dvr19:33
jasonsbthen do a "ip a" inside the qrouter namespace19:33
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Sam-I-Amoh, just to see what it looks like?19:34
jasonsbif i have a floating ip attached, i should see an interface with that ip19:34
Sam-I-Amyes19:34
jasonsbthis should work for either or both provider netowrks19:34
jasonsbthen i should turn on dvr and make sure both are there19:34
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arykleinwhat does exactly the directive "bridge_mappings" do? It's not clear for me19:35
jasonsbthe tricky thing (and what i wasn't sure about) is the fip have their own netns19:35
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jasonsbdoes that sound correct?19:36
Sam-I-Amdvr is not something you can easily 'turn on'19:36
jasonsbi need to find a doc which has multiple provider networks and how it shows up in dvr19:36
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Sam-I-Amso, each router plugs into a different ext network, right?19:37
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Sam-I-Amaryklein: it maps a "name you can remember" to an openvswitch bridge name19:38
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jasonsbyes19:38
Sam-I-Amthe fips relate to each external network that a fip lives on19:39
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Sam-I-Amin other words, this seems more confusing that it really is19:39
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arykleinSam-I-Am: ah ok! Now I understand19:40
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arykleinand when I use "network_vlan_ranges = external:1000:2999" under [ml2_type_vlan] label and "bridge_mappings = external:br-ex", basically it means that the bridge br-ext can tag vlan from 1000 to 2999?19:47
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Sam-I-Amyes, for tenant and provider networks.19:48
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arykleinSam-I-Am: thanks!19:48
Sam-I-Amfor provider networks (created as an admin) you can choose any vlan id19:48
Sam-I-Amhowever, if you let your tenants create networks, they will use that pool19:48
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arykleinbut for provider networks I need to choose one from 1000 to 2999? If I use another vlan id it won't work with that bridge19:50
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arykleinis like a vlan trunk in a switch19:50
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Sam-I-Amif the admin user creates it, you can use any vlan #19:51
arykleinok19:51
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Sam-I-Amthe range is really just for networks created by tenants who dont have permission to specify a vlan tag19:53
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arykleinSam-I-Am: but if I wanna use a provider network that is tagged with vlan 1500, for example, I should add a linux vlan interface with id 1500, and add this vlan interface it to the bridge br-ext,  set "network_vlan_ranges = external:1500" and "bridge_mappings = external:br-ex"?19:58
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arykleinis it ok?19:59
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harmwwhat could be a reason for br-tun not beeing created?20:00
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Sam-I-Amaryklein: dont need to do that. openvswitch handles the tagging internally.20:00
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Sam-I-Ambr-ex just needs a port on a bare interface (like eth0) attached to a trunk from a switch20:01
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arykleinSam-I-Am: ahhh ok ok20:01
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arykleinSam-I-Am: so is the ml2 plugin going to do the rest of the work?20:02
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Sam-I-Amyeah... technically the openvswitch agent20:04
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aryklein:)20:04
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arykleinfrom a book that I'm reading.... "Open vSwitch plugin uses a single-bridge interface containing a single physical interface and uses flow rules to add or remove VLAN tags if necessary."20:13
arykleinsorry for asking without reading before20:14
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Sam-I-Amyeah.20:17
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dudyhas anyone had a problem with fresh cent7 installs of packstack needing 'killall dnsmasq' frequently to keep metadata api working?20:18
dudyreally, it looks like ip address isn't being assigned20:19
dudywe're running juno with nova20:19
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dudyall I know is reboots and systemctl restart don't seem to help20:20
dudythe only thing that fixes it is killall dnsmasq20:20
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dudyand then it crops back up after an hour or so20:20
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dontaltondudy, what do you have metadata_host set to?20:27
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skaCan a Neutron floatingip associate with more than one port?21:40
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skacan a Neutron port associate with more than one floatingip?21:40
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Sam-I-Ami think it makes a port for each one21:42
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dudydontalton: currently all the metadata_host lines are commented out22:08
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ndruHey guys, fresh compute node being provisions on ubuntu... nova-compute is failing with: ImportError: Class LibvirtDriver cannot be found22:46
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ndruIs there a separate package besides the ones in the install guide that needs to be installed to include support for this?22:46
ndruFull trace: http://hastebin.com/uhahajamix.tex22:46
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Sam-I-Amndru: shouldnt be anything additional22:51
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MentalRayhey Sam23:00
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Sam-I-AmMentalRay: hi!23:02
Sam-I-Amwhile no see23:02
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MentalRayyeah working hard hehehe23:04
Sam-I-Amtell me about it23:05
Sam-I-Amhopefully you're not working too hard23:05
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MentalRayWell23:06
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MentalRaymaybe a bit too much but work is so much fun :23:06
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MentalRay:)23:06
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nikilhi is there a way to get console output of a VM through terminal instead of web browser?23:07
Sam-I-Amnikil: you might look into the serial console support23:08
nikilsam-I-am yes exactly . I do this is vmware esxi23:08
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nikilbut not sure how to do in openstack23:08
nikilwith kvm23:08
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Sam-I-Amnikil: i'm trying to remember with vmware how you look at a console outside of vsphere client or the vsphere web interface23:09
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nikilsam-I-Am : we add serial port and connect to it to set the network. Exactly i also don't remember it had been done long back ago23:12
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nikilsam-I-Am : so is there any similar way in openstack23:12
Sam-I-Amyeah, i think this is similar...23:13
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Sam-I-Amone sec23:14
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nikilthanks for checking23:14
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Sam-I-Amnikil: http://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide-cloud/content/section_manage-logs.html#d6e372323:16
Sam-I-Amits new in juno23:16
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nikilsam-I-Am. Thanks. I am using stable/icehouse. Let me install juno then..23:17
Sam-I-Amthere's read-only console support in icehouse23:18
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Sam-I-Amby default, the console output from an instance winds up on the compute node, but if you want an interactive serial console, you need juno23:18
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nikilsam-I-Am: It seams like only the console log we can get from the link what you have sent. But we can't really intact with it as we do in browser23:42
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Sam-I-Amnikil: icehouse is read-only, juno is read-write23:43
Sam-I-Amread-write meaning interactive23:44
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nikilSam-I-Am : oh ok..Actually i should be able to use some expect script and do some interaction , because my image will not take dhcp IP supplied by openstack neutron23:45
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Sam-I-Amnikil: are you just looking to configure metadata?23:45
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nikilSam-I-Am: Its not metadata which i try to push. I have a custom Linux OS, which doesn't have dhcp support. So once the image is deployed i need to login to  that machine and set the IP address manually. And i am trying to automate it using a script23:49
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Sam-I-Amnikil: can it use config-drive?23:49
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osc_khoj.23:55
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