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| loth | Sam-I-Am: Do you know of a way to bind a range of ip's to a port in neutron? I have seen 'neutron port-update <PORT_UUID> --fixed-ips type=dict list=true ip_address='10.0.0.120' ip_address='10.0.0.121'' however it would be much easier if there was a simple cidr option | 00:35 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i dont know of a cidr option | 00:36 |
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| loth | i guess will just have to script that command out when binding a large range | 00:37 |
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| pylot | Sam-I-Am: im trying to use 2 external flat networks over one physical bridge, i changed the configuration parameters of ml2_plugin to have * instead of external network, but when i do ip netns ... ip a and ovs-vsctl show it shows up the second network as br-int network and i can't get out via the physical adapter | 00:38 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you can only have one flat network per bridge | 00:39 |
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| skullone | i think ive got all my Juno upgrade issues sorted for the most part | 00:40 |
| skullone | that was a rough upgrade =/ | 00:40 |
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| pylot | hmm k, so instead i have to go with a manual virtual bridge interface? | 00:41 |
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| Sam-I-Am | no, you need another bridge and another physical interface | 00:42 |
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| Sam-I-Am | a flat network is a network that has no vlan tag. there can only be 1 native vlan on any network. | 00:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | maybe you want to use vlan networks? | 00:43 |
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| pylot | hmm k, thanks i'll try that, i don't have more adapters in the server and its for a internal vpn network accross other pyhsical servers so it might be the best with vlan tags | 00:45 |
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| Sam-I-Am | X123: hi | 00:58 |
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| pylot | Sam-I-Am: has it to be a real physical adapter or could it somehow work with a pysical interface like br-ex:1 ? | 01:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | pylot: you could have multiple subnets on one network if that solves your problem | 01:03 |
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| pylot | hmm no :) its a local network, like 1) 80.xxx.xxx.xxx, 2) 10.0.0.0/8 | 01:05 |
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| Sam-I-Am | theres no way to have > 1 flat network on a layer 2 interface | 01:07 |
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| pylot | hmm okay i try to go with vlan | 01:16 |
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| pylot | configured it now with vlan but when i do ovs-vsctl show, the device is getting added in br-int instead of br-vpn, same behaviour as flat | 01:31 |
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| pylot | Sam-I-Am i just configured it to use 2 external flat networks ... its related to ovs but i don't understand why it should not be possible? | 02:51 |
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| Sam-I-Am | what? | 02:56 |
| X123 | Sam that's not .. technically true | 02:56 |
| X123 | you can set an interface in the OS to have multiple vlans | 02:56 |
| X123 | and then tell openstack to use each one of those as a flat | 02:56 |
| X123 | done that before :) | 02:56 |
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| Sam-I-Am | X123: yes, but thats still one flat network per ovs bridge | 02:56 |
| X123 | true but it's not using vlans in openstack or ovs | 02:57 |
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| X123 | it's just.. semantics i guess | 02:57 |
| X123 | so you can have two 'flat' networks from openstack perspective but they would be vlan from the OS perspective | 02:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | relying on the os config isnt very cloudy | 02:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | it'll work, it just isnt elegant | 02:58 |
| X123 | meh with tools like puppet to push configs it's not even an issue | 02:58 |
| X123 | but yeah, if the networking actually wasn't such a HUGE mess in openstack :) | 02:59 |
| X123 | it would be nice hehe | 02:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | tagging in ovs/lb seems to work fine | 02:59 |
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| Sam-I-Am | back to un-computering | 03:00 |
| X123 | :P | 03:00 |
| X123 | i'm just here because the phoen rang haha | 03:00 |
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| Sam-I-Am | X123: if you're bored - http://23.253.231.218:8080/network-guide/deploy_scenario4b.html | 03:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | most simple neutron ever | 03:01 |
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| X123 | heh | 03:13 |
| X123 | yeah | 03:14 |
| X123 | nice | 03:14 |
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| Tusker | heya guys, how can I change the service IP address of the novnc URL ? | 03:52 |
| Tusker | i tried to change it in the nova.conf, but the web interface still using the private IP of the haproxy | 03:53 |
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| Sam-I-Am | Tusker: its the one on the compute node thats handed to the client | 04:01 |
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| Tusker | Sam-I-Am: so, horizon asks compute node what the URL is ? | 04:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | yup | 04:10 |
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| Tusker | odd, but OK :) | 04:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | if you're using novnc, its more or less the output of 'nova get-vnc-console $instance novnc' | 04:12 |
| Tusker | OK, let me double check that output | 04:12 |
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| Tusker | OK, great | 04:13 |
| Tusker | that looks much better | 04:13 |
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| bell_juzo | ho | 08:21 |
| bell_juzo | hi* | 08:21 |
| bell_juzo | has anyone have problem with double hostname on VM ? | 08:21 |
| bell_juzo | I mean when you spawn vm with name let's say "test" on this vm hostname is "testtest" ? | 08:22 |
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| bearish | Guys, noob question, how can I use local node storage with nova, instead of cinder lvm-over-iscsi volumes? | 10:29 |
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| SVK | ??? | 10:33 |
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| shaggycat | Hi all! I can't get working neutron configureation: https://www.dropbox.com/s/8fjocimnoufvzz9/1.png?dl=0 http://pastebin.com/GqyKLtXL /// arp working, but icmp packages not | 11:05 |
| shaggycat | I manually add in br-int device of vlan, eth0.2001 | 11:06 |
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| shaggycat | it is a network configuration : http://pastebin.com/8i3iQtkg | 11:07 |
| shaggycat | Also, not work dhcp. I manually up iface in VM with correct IP | 11:08 |
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| devop | hello guys, i'm trying to run node on ubuntu 14.10 but i'm constantly encountering this kind of error - http://pastebin.com/ue7kNsad | 11:37 |
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| devop | i just adapted the configuration from the multi-node openstack tutorial, but i can paste it too if you want | 11:38 |
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| Sam-I-Am | devop: you should try with the 'glance' client | 11:48 |
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| devop | Sam-I-Am: but it stops my whole stack.sh :/ | 11:50 |
| devop | so, is there any extra configuration or service enabling needed? | 11:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | what deployment thing is this? | 11:50 |
| devop | juno | 11:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | no.. stack.sh belongs to what? | 11:51 |
| devop | stack.sh is just a default script to run whole openstack | 11:52 |
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| Sam-I-Am | devstack? or something else | 11:53 |
| devop | ah, yeah, sorry... yes, devstack :) | 11:53 |
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| Sam-I-Am | did you change the sha/branch to stable/juno before you ran it? | 11:54 |
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| devop | yes | 11:56 |
| devop | git branch is set to stable/juno | 11:56 |
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| Sam-I-Am | any reason you're using devstack over a regular install? | 12:01 |
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| mannarra | I am using nova docker driver , I created mo filesand I placed them in /usr/share/locale(RHEL7.1 compute node).....so how can I change the locale and test translation of messages in log for already created cloud ..... | 12:03 |
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| devop | Sam-I-Am: i just have to dive into the openstack sea by using developer version :) | 12:04 |
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| Sam-I-Am | did you get a single node to work? | 12:05 |
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| devop | yes | 12:06 |
| devop | and i can create instances and stuff like that | 12:07 |
| devop | now i need to do a multinode scenario | 12:07 |
| devop | and i'm stuck with this 409 image related error | 12:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | this error happens on your second node? | 12:08 |
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| devop | yes | 12:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | it shouldnt be deploying anything but compute, right? | 12:09 |
| devop | i just deleted the images on the controller, and now the error's gone :) | 12:09 |
| devop | yes | 12:09 |
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| Sam-I-Am | sounds like its not | 12:10 |
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| devop | yeah, it just changed to a n-api timeout error, but now i just edited local.conf to enable this | 12:13 |
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| devop | Sam-I-Am: it seems that node is uploading the images to the controller, can i stop this upload somehow in config file? | 12:32 |
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| rmstar | hi guys. just a simple question. when does openstack use add tap to linux bridge and when does it add tap to ovs? | 12:33 |
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| Sam-I-Am | devop: not sure. i'm not too familiar with devstack. as just a compute node, i wouldnt expect it to upload an image unless its also running some sort of tests. | 12:34 |
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| devop | Sam-I-Am: ok, thanks for help anyways! | 12:35 |
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| wasmum | rlrevell: you around? | 13:40 |
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| rlrevell | wasmum: yep | 13:40 |
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| wasmum | is there any way to register my compute node with the open vswitch agent, the machine reports the service running but the neutron agent-list does not recognize it | 13:42 |
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| Sam-I-Am | sounds like its not using rabbitmq | 13:44 |
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| rlrevell | wasmum: if the config is correct iirc it registers itself. can you pastebin /etc/neutron/neutron.conf and /etc/nova/nova.conf from the compute node? | 13:44 |
| wasmum | sure I can. onesec | 13:45 |
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| wasmum | Sam-I-Am: agree, but the compute node is registered as a hypervisor and I see it's connection in rabbitmq, thought of that | 13:46 |
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| Sam-I-Am | neutron services have separate config for rabbit | 13:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | neutron doesn't care what nova is doing | 13:46 |
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| wasmum | holdon, i think I see something | 13:49 |
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| wasmum | rlrevell: http://pastebin.com/5x9dBz0u I did have the rabbitmq host wrong in the neutron.conf. fixed and restarted openvswitch-agent on the compute node | 14:00 |
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| wasmum | doesn't look like it made any difference, may wait a sec for some messages to come through rabbitmq | 14:01 |
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| wasmum | ok,looks like it is registered now | 14:05 |
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| rlrevell | wasmum: cool. now you should see the gre tunnel between compute & network node in ovs-vsctl show | 14:05 |
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| wasmum | rlrevell: like this? http://pastebin.com/3qGTwtX3 | 14:07 |
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| rlrevell | wasmum: those ips look a little funky but assuming the first one is the tunnels network ip of the compute node and the second the tunnels network ip of the network node then yes | 14:08 |
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| wasmum | yeah agree, looking at where it got the 192.192.192.... suck | 14:09 |
| rlrevell | i'd use real RFC1918 IPs rather than made up ones ;-) | 14:09 |
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| rlrevell | wasmum: they come from the local_ip setting in /etc/neutron/plugins/ml2/ml2_conf.ini on both the network and compute nodes, make sure those are right & can ping etc | 14:10 |
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| wasmum | will do. thanks a ton! | 14:11 |
| rlrevell | wasmum: np | 14:11 |
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| wasmum | rlrevell: got a Failed to allocate network, added vif_plugging_is_fatal=False | 14:47 |
| wasmum | vif_plugging_timeout=0 to the nova configs | 14:47 |
| rlrevell | wasmum: pastebin ovs-vsctl show again from compute node | 14:48 |
| zarathustra | Hi everybody, I am trying to use template composition in Heat ( http://paste.openstack.org/show/205422/ ) but when I try to create it I get an error message: ERROR: Could not fetch remote template 'network_addc.yaml': Invalid URL scheme file | 14:48 |
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| zarathustra | sorry it is inside the directory lib, but I have try putting the file at the same level all the files, but I get the same error, even I 've tried to put "file:///tmp/ADDC/network_addc.yaml", and the same error | 14:49 |
| zarathustra | *tried | 14:50 |
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| aa_ | can anybody help with murano application? | 15:22 |
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| pabut | OK, so I got neutron working ... as best as I can tell ... now I'm trying to spin up an instance with "nova boot" .... | 15:23 |
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| pabut | it fails .... not sure why .... only data I have is a message in nova-api.log that there was no response to a message | 15:24 |
| pabut | looking at the nova-scheduler.log .... don't see any activity | 15:25 |
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| Sam-I-Am | pabut: sounds like something isnt rabbiting | 15:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | or nova isnt configured to use neutron | 15:25 |
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| cliles | hi, when using the nfs driver for cinder... should the compute node have the nfs location mounted even when no instance is running? | 15:31 |
| cliles | when I try to launch an instance with a volume, the failure is that the compute node is getting permission denied to open the volume file on the nfs server | 15:31 |
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| cliles | on the compute node when I manually go to the location of where the volume file should be, I don't see anything, and checking there is no nfs mount present | 15:32 |
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| cliles | I'm suspecting either the nfs mount is not happening, or it's happening and unmounting after the permissons failure | 15:33 |
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| pabut | Sam-I-Am: that's kinda where I am .... but how to troubleshoot? | 15:46 |
| rasoto_ | hello everyone, i am trying to disable the volume snapshot creation via the policy json but it is not working. I am adding the group:nobody value to the key compute:volume_snapshot_create and restarted the nova compute service but it did not work. Does anybody know how to accomplish this? | 15:46 |
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| Sam-I-Am | pabut: did you follow the install guide at docs.openstack.org ? | 15:48 |
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| pabut | Sam-I-Am: I see all of the nova service connecting to rabbit ... but don't see much else | 15:48 |
| pabut | yes | 15:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | neutron should be connecting to rabbit | 15:48 |
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| pabut | let me look at that one ... neutron seems to being doing what it needs to | 15:49 |
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| pabut | yea neutron server log shows "connected to AMQP" | 15:51 |
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| Sam-I-Am | what about all the other services? | 15:51 |
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| Sam-I-Am | like the agents | 15:51 |
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| pabut | I don't see any AMQP messages for the level 3 agent ... nor is there setting in the l3 ini file ... | 15:56 |
| pabut | same for dhcp | 15:56 |
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| Sam-I-Am | it uses the neutron.conf file for its rabbit config | 15:58 |
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| Sam-I-Am | but in the logs (with verbose=true) you should see it connect to rabbit | 15:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | also, neutron agent-list should show all of your agents working | 15:58 |
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| * zilberstein don't get it | 16:00 | |
| zilberstein | I removed br-int manually configured bridge | 16:00 |
| zilberstein | to let neutron to add it | 16:00 |
| zilberstein | but that bitch still complains: | 16:00 |
| zilberstein | of_agent.log.2:Stderr: 'ovs-vsctl: "--may-exist add-port br-int eth0" but eth0 is actually attached to bridge br-eth0\n' | 16:01 |
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| zilberstein | How to configure that bloody network ? | 16:01 |
| pabut | yep agent list shows two ovs agents one for controller one for compute .. plus l3 metadata and dhcp | 16:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | zilberstein: what are you doing with the openflow agent? | 16:01 |
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| zilberstein | Sam-I-Am, neutron-ofa-agent ? I use it to connect neutron to openvswitch, to use floating ips | 16:02 |
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| Sam-I-Am | zilberstein: not the openvswitch agent? | 16:02 |
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| wigwam_work | hello. I have problems with libvirt segfaulting on live migrations on debian/wheezy, anybody to help please? | 16:03 |
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| zilberstein | Sam-I-Am, no, openvswitch agent creates a lot of useless bridges, tap devices | 16:03 |
| zilberstein | Sam-I-Am, someone gave me advise here to use OFA | 16:03 |
| zilberstein | and l2populate | 16:03 |
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| Sam-I-Am | wigwam_work: what ver of libvirt and openstack? | 16:04 |
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| Sam-I-Am | zilberstein: whoever said use the OFA was wrong | 16:05 |
| zilberstein | Sam-I-Am, so what it is for ? | 16:05 |
| zilberstein | I followed that manual: https://github.com/osrg/ryu/wiki/Configuration-OpenStack-OFAgent-agent | 16:06 |
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| zilberstein | * VLAN network (Juno and later) | 16:06 |
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| Sam-I-Am | are you using ryu? | 16:06 |
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| zilberstein | Sam-I-Am, no, I thought it was depricated | 16:07 |
| zilberstein | Sam-I-Am, but ryu was downloaded by some dependancy | 16:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | it is | 16:08 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so why are you following that guide? | 16:08 |
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| zilberstein | Sam-I-Am, because "Two neutron agents, openvswitch and ofagent, implement mostly same functionalities in different ways. " | 16:09 |
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| zilberstein | ( https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/OFAgent/ComparisonWithOVS ) | 16:09 |
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| zilberstein | and openvswitch supports openflow as far as I know | 16:09 |
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| Sam-I-Am | it... does | 16:10 |
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| Sam-I-Am | but i think you're going down the wrong path here | 16:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | if you're just looking to make neutron work | 16:11 |
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| mnaser | has anyone ran newer versions of libvirt than the one shipped with 14.04 ? | 16:12 |
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| zilberstein | Sam-I-Am, I already had it working. But I do not want it to create 9 different interfaces for one vm | 16:12 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mnaser: sure. the cloud archive usually contains a newer version. | 16:12 |
| zilberstein | Sam-I-Am, so Im trying to use openvswithc, l2populate and of agent | 16:13 |
| mnaser | i dont think it contains one right now for juno, or does it? | 16:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | zilberstein: are you using vxlan or gre? | 16:13 |
| mnaser | there's a bug in the current release which is affecting me | 16:13 |
| zilberstein | Sam-I-Am, I use vlan | 16:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | zilberstein: no reason for l2pop then | 16:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | just use the openvswitch mechanism | 16:13 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mnaser: which ver? | 16:14 |
| mnaser | ii libvirt-bin 1.2.2-0ubuntu13.1.10 amd64 programs for the libvirt library | 16:14 |
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| Sam-I-Am | that version works fine in my gates, what's broken? | 16:14 |
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| mnaser | http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2014-May/msg00005.html | 16:15 |
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| mnaser | that patch is not in, so when im removing a filterref, it crashes | 16:15 |
| mnaser | not necessarily openstack-related behaviour, but an upgrade might break it which i want to avoid | 16:15 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mnaser: are you using the cloud archive repo? | 16:16 |
| mnaser | yes | 16:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | or just building this stuff on your own | 16:16 |
| mnaser | using cloud archive | 16:16 |
| mnaser | http://ubuntu-cloud.archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/juno/main/binary-amd64/Packages | 16:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | is there a bug filed for this issue? | 16:16 |
| mnaser | i dont see anything for it there either so looks like there isnt a maintained version | 16:16 |
| mnaser | i havent yet, im still looking | 16:16 |
| mnaser | there is a fix upstream, but not in ubuntu packages | 16:17 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the kilo cloud archive repo has 1.2.12 or somesuch | 16:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | which is also broken, but differently | 16:17 |
| mnaser | yeah don't want to touch that yet | 16:18 |
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| Sam-I-Am | guess you could apply the patch yourself | 16:23 |
| Sam-I-Am | then repackage | 16:23 |
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| zilberstein | Sam-I-Am, "From Juno, ofagent does not support configuration without l2population" | 16:25 |
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| zilberstein | ( https://github.com/osrg/ryu/wiki/Configuration-OpenStack-OFAgent-agent ) | 16:25 |
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| wigwam_work | Sam-I-Am: openstack juno 2014.2.2, libvirt 1.2.9-9 (debian wheezy) | 16:28 |
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| wigwam_work | Sam-I-Am: when I run: nova live-migration --block-migrate <instance>, libvirt segfaults | 16:28 |
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| Sam-I-Am | wigwam_work: there any known bugs with that version? | 16:30 |
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| zarathustra | how do you debug a Heat template besides the logs that are not very clear ? | 16:32 |
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| wigwam_work | Sam-I-Am: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1147331 seems relevant ... but i was not able to workaround it by turning off the VIR_MIGRATE_TUNNELLED flag | 16:34 |
| openstack | bugzilla.redhat.com bug 1147331 in libvirt "[migration] Tunnelled migration failed" [High,Closed: errata] - Assigned to jdenemar | 16:36 |
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| Sam-I-Am | wigwam_work: is it fixed in a newer ver? | 16:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | also, live migration is a hack you should avoid in the long-term | 16:46 |
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| manous | hello i use legacy network | 16:47 |
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| manous | my instance can get public ip | 16:47 |
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| manous | but i can't ping 8.8.8.8 http://paste.openstack.org/show/205742/ | 16:47 |
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| manous | it's normal ? http://paste.openstack.org/show/205743/ | 16:51 |
| harmw | which nic intrfaces should a neutron controller have, bsides br-int/br-tun/be-ex | 16:51 |
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| harmw | since my traffic is not flowing to qr-bla attached in br-ex, whilst br-ex is receiving tffic just fine | 16:52 |
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| harmw | (though qr-bla is seeing other outside non-cloud trffic just fine) | 16:52 |
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| cliles | it was selinux | 16:54 |
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| pabut | In nova-api.log .... seeing message: http://controller:8774/yadda...yadda/server returned with HTTP 500 .... thoughts?? | 16:56 |
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| wigwam_work | Sam-I-Am: why should I avoid live migration? | 16:57 |
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| wigwam_work | Sam-I-Am: now i've found that this bug was patched in by package already, so there is different problem apparently | 16:58 |
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| Sam-I-Am | wigwam_work: live migration is legacy virtualization | 16:58 |
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| Sam-I-Am | wigwam_work: you should be able to launch and destroy instance of your app on the fly and nothing should skip a beat | 16:59 |
| harmw | wigwam_work: your workload should be able to cope with failing hypervisors | 16:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | wigwam_work: thats why openstack doesn't put focus on live migration | 16:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | its not cloudy | 16:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | if you want it, use vmware | 16:59 |
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| wigwam_work | this is from the openstack docs: "We consider live migration an integral part of the operations of the cloud." | 17:02 |
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| wigwam_work | thanks anyway... | 17:02 |
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| wigwam_work | harmw: heh, but if the hypervisor fails on any attempt to migrate an instance, how can we cope with that? :) | 17:03 |
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| harmw | no no, my point is your workload should not even care :) | 17:03 |
| harmw | an sa such, thre is no need to live-migrate | 17:03 |
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| Sam-I-Am | wigwam_work: its there because people have been using conventional virtualization for a long time | 17:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | it should work... but i dont think its well-tested everywhere | 17:04 |
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| terje | could not agree more about live migration.. | 17:15 |
| terje | application owners don't see things that way normally. | 17:16 |
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| terje | having a ceph backend makes live migration really quick/easy though. | 17:16 |
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| wigwam_work | terje: I am just hitting a bug in libvirt obviously, otherwise it should work well | 17:18 |
| terje | what OS are you running? | 17:18 |
| terje | also, what is your storage backend? | 17:18 |
| wigwam_work | I tried volume backed instances and local storage with --block-migration | 17:19 |
| wigwam_work | both end up by segfaulting libvirt | 17:19 |
| wigwam_work | I am running debian wheezy with libvirtd from backports | 17:19 |
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| terje | ah ok | 17:19 |
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| terje | suggest testing with nova mounted over NFS or some distributed storage and see how far that gets ya | 17:20 |
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| wigwam_work | terje: I might try another block storage option if I am really desperate, but since I've already tried two, I doubt this problem depends on it | 17:21 |
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| terje | using some NAS setup, I've ping'd a VM, live migrated it and never dropped a packet. | 17:22 |
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| terje | which i thought was pretty cool | 17:22 |
| terje | so you're doing like, LVM? | 17:22 |
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| terje | then, boot from volume and live-migrate? | 17:22 |
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| wigwam_work | terje: yes | 17:25 |
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| aryklein | Sam-I-Am: sorry I'm late to the chat. I don't understand why I should avoid use live migration. For example If I have my mail server instance running in a compute node and if I wanna move it to another compute node (for maintenance op) | 17:49 |
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| wasmum | any advice for a slow horizon instance (on the controller) with 32 cores? Also on the controller is keystone, nova-api, etc... | 17:49 |
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| rlrevell | aryklein: easy, just develop a distributed stateless mail server ;-) | 17:51 |
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| Sam-I-Am | aryklein: MTAs are pretty stateless. store the mail on external storage. | 17:51 |
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| aryklein | ahhh! ok. So I should destroy it and then re launch it on other compute node | 17:52 |
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| aryklein | is is right? | 17:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | well, not even that | 17:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | non-live migration does that for you | 17:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | it creates a snapshot, kills the vm, and launches a new vm from the snapshot | 17:53 |
| rlrevell | aryklein: i was joking, i just meant that for those of us who have to support legacy apps, live migration is kind of useful | 17:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | the idea is to get away from legacy stuff | 17:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | if you tell people you can do live migration, they'll always expect its there and continue to develop garbage apps | 17:54 |
| aryklein | Sam-I-Am: and is non-live migration legacy? | 17:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | no. migration is fine. it will often automatically happen if a hypervisor dies. | 17:55 |
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| Sam-I-Am | difference is, with non-live, nova can snapshot your VM outside of libvirt and move it. if you have to live migrate, you're relying on the hypervisor... which we assume is broken. | 17:55 |
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| aryklein | Sam-I-Am: ok... now it is clear for me | 17:58 |
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| aryklein | rlrevell: and for example which kind of well-known app is a legacy app? | 17:59 |
| kyle1234 | hello does anybody have experience using OpenStack REST API? | 17:59 |
| kyle1234 | I am trying to see if I can authenticate calls using only tenant, user, and password rather than having to request an authentication token | 17:59 |
| aryklein | rlrevell: bind9 cloud be? | 18:00 |
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| rlrevell | aryklein: well for one, i'm working with various lamp based things that are not "cloudy" in their design | 18:01 |
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| Sam-I-Am | rlrevell: how arent they cloudy? | 18:02 |
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| rlrevell | Sam-I-Am: a lot of small wordpress-type apps often designed by customers outside of our control. we're trying to figure out how best to map these to the openstack way of looking at things | 18:05 |
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| Sam-I-Am | rlrevell: should be able to load-balance the web servers and make the back end database stuff redundant | 18:05 |
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| Sam-I-Am | some of this is just user education on how to write stuff properly | 18:06 |
| aryklein | but I always depend on outage time when I perform the migration? is it right? | 18:06 |
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| rlrevell | Sam-I-Am: yeah, it's not the most HA environment as is. and like i said, much of it is designed by users of widely varying levels of expertise | 18:06 |
| rlrevell | Sam-I-Am: so there are cases where live migration would really help, and others where it isn't critical | 18:07 |
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| Sam-I-Am | aryklein: with cloudy things, there really is no outage | 18:10 |
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| Sam-I-Am | loadbalancer points to X number of front-ends. take a front-end out of the LB. non-live migrate it. put it back into the LB. | 18:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | the key here is dont have 1 of anything | 18:10 |
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| aryklein | ok.. you have clarify my doubts thks | 18:17 |
| noye | is kilo on track to be release on the 30th? when should we expect the repo to be populated with new packages ? | 18:17 |
| aryklein | ok.. you have clarified my doubts thks | 18:17 |
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| noye | I noticed that some have been put in, but i didnt notice the new horizon | 18:18 |
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| Sam-I-Am | noye: i wouldnt expect release packages for a couple of weeks after the 30th | 18:22 |
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| Sam-I-Am | noye: but the source will be ready if you want to use that | 18:23 |
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| kyle1234 | Is there a header I can specify to pass username and password as credentials for an OpenStack REST call, rather than passing an authentication token? | 18:31 |
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| loth | Is anyone working on documentation for Juno->Kilo upgrades? | 18:31 |
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| Sam-I-Am | loth: eventually | 18:34 |
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| pabut | still beating my head against the desk .... according to the doc "nova-api sends the rpc.call request to nova-scheduler" | 18:54 |
| pabut | but I never see a request come in .... loggoing with debug on | 18:54 |
| pabut | I see it connect to AMPQ | 18:55 |
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| ashishjain | hello I got a question on heat | 20:45 |
| ashishjain | autoscaling | 20:45 |
| ashishjain | Say for example if I deploy a heat stack which would autoscale to max 3 instances and initial size 1 is 1 instance | 20:46 |
| ashishjain | Now this 1 instance has got a high CPU_UTIL which crosses the threshold, so one more instance will be instantiated | 20:46 |
| ashishjain | now how will the 3 instance be auto deployed - | 20:47 |
| ashishjain | 1) Will it be if CPU_UTIL for instance 1 still remains high and above the threshold | 20:47 |
| ashishjain | 2) Will it be if CPU_UTIL for instance 2 goes above threshold | 20:47 |
| ashishjain | 3) or Will it if CPU_UTIL of instance 1 goes down and than high | 20:48 |
| ashishjain | Can someone help with this | 20:48 |
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| aryklein | have a good weekend! | 21:01 |
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| panbalag | Hi..I'm trying nova with SSL enabled and seeing the failure "error:14094410:SSL routines:SSL3_READ_BYTES:sslv3 alert handshake failure" while trying any nova command. Has anyone seen this issue before? | 23:36 |
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