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Sam-I-Am | orzel: seen it all too many times | 00:01 |
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orzel | mm. now i have this ugly "NovaException: Unexpected vif_type=binding_failed". Which according to google searches is realated to "there's a bug in your neutron configuration". For those who managed to fix the problem, it was indeed config errors. I dont have those. But still the error :-( | 00:02 |
orzel | Sam-I-Am: ;-) | 00:02 |
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Sam-I-Am | probably a mismatch of what networks are available vs. what you're trying to use with that vm | 00:02 |
orzel | like "gre", "vlan" and such ? in plugins/ml2/ml2_conf.ini : type_drivers = flat, gre | 00:05 |
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orzel | that was my first check actually | 00:05 |
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Sam-I-Am | that and the bridge mappings | 00:05 |
Sam-I-Am | tunnel id ranges, etc | 00:05 |
orzel | bridge mapping was one of the least clear stuff in documentation. | 00:05 |
orzel | i might have fail this. | 00:05 |
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Sam-I-Am | next question... what network were you trying to boot your vm with? internal/tenant or external? | 00:06 |
orzel | erm ... both actually. One external and one internal/tenant | 00:06 |
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Sam-I-Am | is this the basic config from the install guide? | 00:07 |
orzel | more or less. This and the fact that network node has only one nic. So i've created/bound several bridge together | 00:08 |
Sam-I-Am | so, br-ex only exists on the network node? | 00:08 |
orzel | yes, (but it's also the compute node) | 00:09 |
orzel | i would not have created it on another compute node, though | 00:09 |
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Sam-I-Am | when you say... created/bound several bridges together, what do you mean? | 00:10 |
orzel | One thing very obscure to me is how neutron/compute nodes know about which NIC/bridge to use for 'tenant traffic' or 'data network' (names change in documentation). It's very often 'br-eth1' but not always. Even if not connected to eth1 | 00:10 |
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orzel | Sam-I-Am: i did this : https://fosskb.wordpress.com/2014/06/10/managing-openstack-internaldataexternal-network-in-one-interface/ | 00:11 |
orzel | more specifically this one https://fosskb.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/openstack-single-machine-single-nic.png?w=1008 | 00:11 |
orzel | though it's only network/compute node. Controller is another one | 00:12 |
Sam-I-Am | this looks too complex | 00:12 |
orzel | i would be really happy to have something simpler :) | 00:13 |
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Sam-I-Am | not really sure why theres a br-proxy or br-eth1 | 00:13 |
orzel | log of people seem to ask but that's one of the best example. Still the command provided have lot of typos.. | 00:13 |
orzel | Sam-I-Am: my understanding is that openstack expects 'br-eth1' | 00:13 |
Sam-I-Am | it does not | 00:13 |
Sam-I-Am | it expects nothing | 00:13 |
orzel | it expects br-ex, its' in documentation ;-) And br-int is created by neutron | 00:14 |
Sam-I-Am | it defaults to br-ex for the external bridge, but these days you should un-set that default | 00:14 |
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orzel | how will it route traffic is we do not specify anything ? | 00:15 |
Sam-I-Am | you do specify things, but in the bridge mapping instead | 00:15 |
Sam-I-Am | do you specifically want both the tenant networks (are they vlan or tunnel?) and external networks available on all of the compute nodes in addition to the network nodes? | 00:16 |
orzel | i have this : plugins/ml2/ml2_conf.ini:bridge_mappings = external:br-ex | 00:16 |
orzel | i use gre tunnels for tenant networks | 00:16 |
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orzel | not sure about your question | 00:16 |
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orzel | I dont mind if VM traffic to external network go through the network node | 00:17 |
Sam-I-Am | do all of your instances only use tenant networks, or do they require direct access to the external network in some cases? | 00:17 |
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orzel | Oh, i think most of the time vm will access the external network directly | 00:19 |
orzel | using tenant 'local network' is a nice-to-have | 00:20 |
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orzel | i was able to ping a router created in neutron. Once :) | 00:20 |
orzel | (with an IP allocated on the external network range) | 00:20 |
Sam-I-Am | vms that attach to external networks is called provider networking, and there's no routing taking place. | 00:21 |
Sam-I-Am | your network infrastructure handles routing | 00:21 |
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Sam-I-Am | for the most part, the only time you use routing is with tenant networks connecting to external networks (with snat/dnat) | 00:22 |
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Sam-I-Am | i wouldnt use 1 nic in a prod environment, but for a lab all this will work | 00:23 |
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orzel | Of course. We're still experimenting. I'm looking forward to have a dozens servers with several nic .. but not yet | 00:28 |
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Sam-I-Am | this might be useful - http://docs.openstack.org/networking-guide/deploy.html | 00:28 |
orzel | Sam-I-Am: i tried creating a vm only connected to the external network, gives the same error | 00:28 |
Sam-I-Am | with one nic, i'd configure the machine's IP on br-ex, make the actual network interface a port on br-ex, and use the ip of br-ex as your tunnel endpoint (local_ip) | 00:30 |
orzel | Sam-I-Am: will read it all. I'm greedy with documentation :) | 00:30 |
Sam-I-Am | i mostly wrote it all :) | 00:30 |
Sam-I-Am | just published last week | 00:30 |
Sam-I-Am | still needs work, but should give you a better idea of the typical deployment scenarios | 00:30 |
orzel | ouch ! Now i understand how it escaped my scrutinity | 00:30 |
orzel | i'll try with thi very simple br-ex setup | 00:31 |
chutwig | would this be the right place to ask about radosgw authentication against keystone, or should i take that to ceph friends | 00:31 |
Sam-I-Am | they reference more production-like environments with multiple nics, but you can hack most of those scenarios into working on one | 00:31 |
Sam-I-Am | chutwig: might be, if there's a ceph person in here | 00:31 |
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chutwig | it's not a pressing question since it does work already, i'm just looking to understand how the integration functions a little better | 00:32 |
orzel | i haven't managed much yet in the 'hacking' part,... i'm not fluent yet with the normal way | 00:32 |
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Sam-I-Am | easiest thing with neutron is starting out with the basics. instances connect to tenant networks that route to an external network. then expand a bit. | 00:32 |
chutwig | mostly i'm not sure exactly where the x-auth-token that horizon is using actually originates from, because if i obtain a token from keystone myself i get back a huge Blob-o'-JSON | 00:33 |
orzel | Sam-I-Am: i really thought connecting to the external network directly would be easier/more straighforward | 00:33 |
chutwig | i can see the token itself in a memcached slab that horizon is passing but am not sure how it's being tied to that particular user, because the key seems empty, unless i'm just screwing up querying memcached | 00:33 |
Sam-I-Am | orzel: depends what you need. tenant networks are more self-service. | 00:34 |
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chutwig | also the swift cli client doesn't work when passing OS username/password and that makes me a little suspicious of some of the magicks | 00:34 |
orzel | Sam-I-Am: i managed to create a router acting as gw/nat between my tenant network and the external network. But only using CLI . When using horizon, i can only 'add port' to it, but no way to configure the WAN part of the router... | 00:34 |
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orzel | Sam-I-Am: most users will require an easy setup with internet access. Even floating ip are not very important for most of them | 00:35 |
Sam-I-Am | what do you mean configure the wan part? | 00:35 |
Sam-I-Am | orzel: sounds like you might benefit from a mix of provider networks and tenant networks | 00:35 |
orzel | the part connected to the external network/internet | 00:35 |
orzel | is there a difference between 'external' and 'provider' networks ? | 00:35 |
Sam-I-Am | not really | 00:36 |
orzel | great. i was afraid of having missed something | 00:36 |
Sam-I-Am | chutwig: i'm not a ceph guy :/ | 00:36 |
Sam-I-Am | but if you have network issues... | 00:36 |
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chutwig | i wasn't directing at you in particular, just blasting out there | 00:41 |
Sam-I-Am | oh, i know | 00:41 |
chutwig | i don't think we use neutron in our deployments | 00:41 |
Sam-I-Am | just saying i cant help much | 00:41 |
chutwig | but i can break something if you like | 00:41 |
chutwig | and then come back | 00:41 |
orzel | ;-) | 00:41 |
Sam-I-Am | lol | 00:41 |
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Sam-I-Am | its a bit quiet in here this time of day | 00:42 |
chutwig | most of our stuff is on havana right now with a few icehouse clusters and i've been tasked with pushing our stuff up to kilo | 00:42 |
chutwig | so, having a lot of fun with that | 00:42 |
Sam-I-Am | i bet | 00:42 |
Sam-I-Am | upgrades are fun | 00:42 |
loth | Why are cloud-init docs so lacking... | 00:42 |
loth | grr | 00:42 |
chutwig | where did you find cloud-init docs :o | 00:43 |
loth | http://cloudinit.readthedocs.org/en/latest/topics/examples.html | 00:43 |
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Sam-I-Am | loth: contributions welcome :) | 00:43 |
loth | for everything else you look at the source code | 00:43 |
chutwig | we're probably going to build entirely new clusters and have a migration path over, which will be nice | 00:43 |
Sam-I-Am | readthedocs is where docs go to die :/ | 00:43 |
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orzel | Sam-I-Am: in the doc your first example is called "legacy". I feel like using some old stuff :-) | 00:48 |
Sam-I-Am | yeah, its only legacy in that people should probably use dvr or l3ha for new deployments (unless they just need provider networks) | 00:49 |
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Sam-I-Am | legacy probably means more like 'conventional' here | 00:49 |
Sam-I-Am | its the same architecture from the install guide, just a bit more detailed. | 00:49 |
orzel | yeps | 00:49 |
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orzel | Sam-I-Am: do you know what 'admin state' mean for networks ? There's also 'shared' which i guess make it available to all tenants | 00:52 |
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Sam-I-Am | admin state is just a logical state... if its admin up, things can use it. if not, no... regardless of whether the underlying stuff is actually up. | 00:53 |
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orzel | ok, kinda enable/available | 00:55 |
Sam-I-Am | yeah | 00:55 |
Sam-I-Am | no different than admin state on a real network device | 00:55 |
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orzel | oh, there's such a thing ? | 00:56 |
orzel | the up in 'ifconfig up' ? | 00:56 |
orzel | Sam-I-Am: nice graphics anyway :) | 00:56 |
* orzel reading | 00:56 | |
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Sam-I-Am | yeah, there was a lot of work that went into those | 00:57 |
Sam-I-Am | still not completely done | 00:58 |
Sam-I-Am | aight, need to do the dishes | 00:58 |
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orzel | Sam-I-Am: with 'tenant network', we agree that it's a virtual network available for all users of the tenant. Is is supposed to be created by a member of the tenant, or by the admin for it to be used by tenant members ? | 01:01 |
orzel | i'm not the only one wondering :-) https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1370322 | 01:02 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1370322 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "Add a tooltip for "Admin State" in the Network forms" [Medium,Fix released] - Assigned to Sam Betts (sambetts) | 01:02 |
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Sam-I-Am | tenant networks (not provider) are generally created by the tenant, hence the self-service capability | 01:03 |
Sam-I-Am | you can create them as the admin tenant, but you need to specify the tenant id for them | 01:04 |
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orzel | but then a floating ip can only be connected to the tenant router, not to any VM ? | 01:08 |
orzel | Sam-I-Am: and it's not possible to forward ports to an internal vm from the router, is it ? | 01:08 |
orzel | mm, or it can have both | 01:09 |
orzel | makes sense | 01:09 |
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Sam-I-Am | heh | 01:18 |
Sam-I-Am | answer your own question? | 01:18 |
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anil_rao | Is "port security extension" for ml2 a part of kilo. | 01:22 |
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Sam-I-Am | aight, time to roll out of here | 01:30 |
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orzel | Sam-I-Am: see ya, thanks again for your help | 01:36 |
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harushimo | can I ask the openstack community a quick question? | 02:02 |
lifeless | harushimo: yes! | 02:03 |
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harushimo | I would like to know if anyone has successfully been to install on ubuntu server? | 02:03 |
harushimo | I'm reading some instructions on both websites | 02:03 |
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harushimo | I've tried to install openstack by source code many times | 02:03 |
harushimo | no success | 02:04 |
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harushimo | I want to do it right | 02:04 |
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raminoid | What is the OpenStack equivelent/alternative for AWS IAM? | 02:20 |
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orzel | raminoid: "keystone" | 02:34 |
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raminoid | Keystone is has limited roles | 02:35 |
raminoid | and as a user of OpenStack (as opposed to an admin), I can't use its features to work as IAM | 02:35 |
raminoid | Are there any secure key-value stores? | 02:36 |
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SamYaple_ | harushimo: for a source install, there is no guide to do this | 06:09 |
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SamYaple | hello _1_Iykegams | 09:28 |
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Qlawy | dnsmasq: failed to bind DHCP server socket: Permission denied | 10:31 |
Qlawy | in dhcp-agent.log of neutron | 10:32 |
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kklimonda | hey, I'm having some weird rabbitmq issues, where messages aren't being consumed it seems. how could I go about debugging it? | 11:03 |
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SamYaple | kklimonda: first I would say double and triple check your configs | 11:08 |
SamYaple | most of the time is a badly configured service not consuming messages | 11:08 |
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kklimonda | it seems to be rather random, works fine and then stops | 11:13 |
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pfreund | Hello, can anybody unlock a question on Ask ? | 11:40 |
pfreund | someone with enough good points :) | 11:40 |
capitol | ask, why not stack-overflow or serverfault? | 11:43 |
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SamYaple | pfreund: sure what question? | 11:44 |
SamYaple | capitol: ask.openstack.org is the "offical" openstack forum for questions | 11:44 |
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pfreund | SamYaple: I ask something, but my question is still not moderated after 24 hours : https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/66262/how-do-you-monitor-quotas/ | 11:45 |
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pfreund | well, it has just be done | 11:46 |
SamYaple | pfreund: i just cleaned up the mod queue and i believe i got that question | 11:46 |
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pfreund | yes thanks :) | 11:46 |
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capitol | aha, my mind linked to ask.fm, i knew about ask.openstack.org | 11:50 |
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SamYaple | pfreund: there is no way to check current usage with neutron without a 'wc -l' command unfortunately | 11:52 |
SamYaple | you can blame the api for that http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-networking-v2-ext.html | 11:52 |
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SamYaple | they are working on the v3 api which i *believe* will have much better functionality in that regards | 11:53 |
SamYaple | the other quotas you have the commands for | 11:53 |
pfreund | ok, I saw some sessions about quotas at Vancouver, I'll try to participate | 11:53 |
SamYaple | im going to update your question with this information | 11:54 |
pfreund | thanks | 11:54 |
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Dj23 | does anyone know the difference between the timestamp and context_timestamp in the AMQP messages generated by openstack? | 14:08 |
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rlrevell | is anyone else seeing neutron-lbaas-agent spewing these errors every 0.5s or so http://paste.openstack.org/show/214977/ | 14:14 |
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rlrevell | after upgrading to kilo from the ubuntu cloud repo? | 14:14 |
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shaggycat | Sam-I-Am, are you here? | 14:34 |
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shaggycat | Hi all | 14:34 |
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shaggycat | I have a problems with my neutron since probably 2 week. Please help me anybody | 14:35 |
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rmstar | hi guys. having some problem with my network. when i ping the floating ip, my response time is about 4 seconds on average, and sometimes, i get "unreachable". any hints what i should be looking for or what i can do to troubleshoot this? I am on Juno | 14:35 |
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shaggycat | ip netns command return qrouter-7573b61c-1cb2-43bc-8296-421e319d2bd0 name of network and qdhcp-f8bdf250-d08f-467a-a073-003ea3165c5d | 14:36 |
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shaggycat | and in qrouter-7573b61c-1cb2-43bc-8296-421e319d2bd0 I see a interface with 10.0.0.1 IP. I can ping this IP from all hardware hosts | 14:37 |
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shaggycat | From controller, from compute node | 14:37 |
shaggycat | and else | 14:37 |
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shaggycat | but inside VM not | 14:38 |
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shaggycat | And i permit ICMP in security groups | 14:38 |
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shaggycat | Also don't work DHCP | 14:38 |
shaggycat | how I can fix and debug this problem> | 14:38 |
shaggycat | ? | 14:38 |
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fscker | ive got one tenant creating this error on its dhcp namespace " In _notify_port_updated(), no bound segment for port" | 14:40 |
fscker | anyone know what that's about? | 14:41 |
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fscker | out of 150 tenants, one is broken so i dont think it's a config issue | 14:41 |
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_nick | shaggycat: so your instance can't ping its default gateway, is that what you're saying? | 14:51 |
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shaggycat | _nick, http://pastebin.com/8wmZuYsy | 14:55 |
shaggycat | _nick, no. It can't ping anything. Only another VMs | 14:56 |
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shaggycat | _nick, and hardware hosts (and namecpases) can't instances | 14:56 |
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kfarhane | hello | 15:09 |
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kfarhane | i want to develop a new ceilometer plugin to collect information about physical NIC of my compute nodes, how can i proceed | 15:11 |
sparr | This isn't an openstack-specific question but... I'm looking for a tool that will let my team describe all of our servers and VMs, with metadata like which VMs are on which VM cluster, what apps/services depend on each other, which clusters are redundant / load balanced / not, etc. Can anyone recommend something for that? | 15:12 |
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rlrevell | Sam-I-Am: is the nova endpoints output here http://docs.openstack.org/kilo/install-guide/install/apt/content/ch_nova.html#nova-verify correct? i get a totally different set of fields http://paste.openstack.org/show/214994/ | 15:13 |
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Sam-I-Am | rlrevell: that paste isnt all the output is it? | 15:15 |
clouddig | I'm trying to use keystoneclient directly in a Python script, but I can't figure out how to either set insecure or provide a cacert file. Any ideas? | 15:15 |
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rlrevell | Sam-I-Am: no but all the services look like that here's the full output http://paste.openstack.org/show/214997/ | 15:16 |
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Sam-I-Am | what version of nova client? | 15:18 |
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rlrevell | Sam-I-Am: 1:2.22.0-0ubuntu1~cloud0 | 15:19 |
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Sam-I-Am | rlrevell: me too | 15:24 |
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Sam-I-Am | dunno why the output is different | 15:24 |
rlrevell | Sam-I-Am: it looks like possibly the endpoint create commands changed between juno and kilo and the db sync commands didn't update them? | 15:26 |
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rlrevell | Sam-I-Am: (this is a juno -> kilo upgraded cluster) | 15:26 |
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Sam-I-Am | the clients should just interpret the endpoints... i dont think they changed. | 15:27 |
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Sam-I-Am | but they do look very juno-ish there | 15:27 |
rlrevell | Sam-I-Am: oh well, it doesn't seem to break anything | 15:27 |
Sam-I-Am | my juno system looks like what you're showing me on kilo | 15:28 |
chrisa | Is anyone able to help with networking? | 15:28 |
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Sam-I-Am | chrisa: in what sense? | 15:29 |
chrisa | I'm getting "Device aef0068f-75a9-4166-8653-f51b61e6e172 requested by agent ovs-agent-localhost.zoo.lan on network db532291-5276-4efc-b593-8f2afda629fd not bound, vif_type: binding_failed" but only on tenant networks (external are working fine) | 15:29 |
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Sam-I-Am | chrisa: sounds like a config error | 15:29 |
Sam-I-Am | perhaps the network you're trying to assign doesnt exist due to that config problem | 15:29 |
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chrisa | Do you know where I can look for logs with the network? | 15:30 |
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Sam-I-Am | the ovs agent is a good start | 15:32 |
chrisa | ok thanks | 15:33 |
Sam-I-Am | make sure you enabled verbose mode in the config files | 15:33 |
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Sam-I-Am | chrisa: http://docs.openstack.org/networking-guide/deploy_scenario1a.html | 15:33 |
Sam-I-Am | that might be helpful | 15:33 |
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MikePar | I'm having issues getting Horizon working, getting a 500/ISE that doensn't match any of the 500/ISEs I've found via google. | 15:35 |
MikePar | relevant apache error log bits: http://paste.openstack.org/show/210401/ | 15:36 |
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MikePar | Juno on Ubuntu Trusty | 15:36 |
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NuxRo | Hi, does anyone know how I can tell cloud-init to stop retrieving/setting the SSH key ? | 15:38 |
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clouddig | What is the best channel to discuss the python clients to openstack. | 15:40 |
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orzel | clouddig: here or #openstack-sdks i guess | 15:46 |
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clouddig | orzel: I need to be able to use keystoneclient in python with a custom CACERT file | 15:51 |
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orzel | clouddig: fortunately keystoneclient is in python | 15:58 |
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orzel | clouddig: i'm far from expert, but 'keystone --help' mentions some stuff about cert and cacert | 15:59 |
clouddig | orzel: I know that. I'm tracing through the code right now. I just can't figure out how to provide a cacert file or make requests insecure. I see there is a simple_cert library, but it's not obvious to me how to use it. | 15:59 |
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clouddig | orzel: from the command line I can use --insecure. In this case I'm use the Client class directly in python | 16:00 |
orzel | clouddig: --os-cacert <ca-certificate> | 16:00 |
orzel | or even the env var OS_CACERT | 16:00 |
orzel | (typically OS_* stuff in put in a script one 'source' before using those tools) | 16:00 |
orzel | _is_ put.. | 16:01 |
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clouddig | orzel: All of that works when using the keystone cli. I'm using it directly in python. | 16:02 |
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MikePar | no input on my dashboard error? | 16:35 |
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Sam-I-Am | MikePar: config error? is this an upgrade? | 16:46 |
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MikePar | clean install based on the "install juno on ubuntu" docs on the site | 16:48 |
Sam-I-Am | whats in your local settings config file? | 16:48 |
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MikePar | only changes I made were the bits outlined on the page: http://docs.openstack.org/juno/install-guide/install/apt/content/install_dashboard.html | 16:49 |
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Sam-I-Am | can you set debug mode in the horizon config? | 16:50 |
Sam-I-Am | then restart things | 16:50 |
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orzel | clouddig: i understand, but this is very probably a good point to start from. See what the cli does | 16:51 |
orzel | there's probably a low level api that the cli is just using | 16:51 |
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MikePar | Sam-I-Am: nothing different in the apache error_log | 16:53 |
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clouddig | orzel: I'll dig in to the CLI... | 16:58 |
chrisa | I've fixed my internal network issue. | 16:58 |
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chrisa | It seems that the config in /etc/neutron/plugins/openvswitch/ovs_neutron_plugin.ini wasn't being picked up | 16:59 |
chrisa | But it was when I added the necessary lines to /etc/neutron/plugin.ini | 16:59 |
Sam-I-Am | MikePar: debug mode should drop stuff in your web browser... unless it doesnt render at all | 16:59 |
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MikePar | nothing, just the apache ISE/500 error | 17:00 |
Sam-I-Am | chrisa: you should be putting those things in ml2_conf.ini and symlinking plugin.ini to it (this seems like a rh-like system) | 17:00 |
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chrisa | I've got a /etc/neutron/plugins/ml2/ml2_conf.ini as well | 17:01 |
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Sam-I-Am | the rh init scripts look for plugin.ini | 17:01 |
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chrisa | which has different configuration to the openvswitch file | 17:01 |
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Sam-I-Am | they also look for ovs_neutron_plugin.ini, but you should remove that from the init script | 17:01 |
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Sam-I-Am | (which the install guide mentions) | 17:01 |
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chrisa | I do have a symlink: plugin.ini -> /etc/neutron/plugins/ml2/ml2_conf.ini | 17:01 |
Sam-I-Am | MikePar: what version of the dashboard package? | 17:02 |
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chrisa | "you should remove that from the init script" I think I did this, but not the step where I move the config | 17:02 |
MikePar | Sam: 1:2014.1.4-0ubuntu2 | 17:02 |
chrisa | Thanks for your help! | 17:02 |
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: zuul has been restarted to troubleshoot an issue, gerrit events between 15:00-17:00 utc were lost and changes updated or approved during that time will need to be rechecked or have their approval votes readded to trigger testing | 17:03 | |
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Sam-I-Am | MikePar: icehouse? | 17:04 |
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MikePar | is that icehouse? it's whatever ubuntu picks up by default. | 17:05 |
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Sam-I-Am | it is | 17:06 |
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Sam-I-Am | so if you're looking at the instructions for another release... | 17:06 |
Sam-I-Am | icehouse will be dead soon | 17:06 |
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MikePar | so, did I miss a step somewhere in the docs on updating my repos? | 17:07 |
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Sam-I-Am | what docs are you using? | 17:08 |
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MikePar | http://docs.openstack.org/juno/install-guide/install/apt/content/index.html | 17:08 |
Sam-I-Am | you're using the juno install guide with icehouse packages | 17:09 |
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Sam-I-Am | i suspect this has something to do with your problems | 17:09 |
MikePar | probably a safe bet | 17:09 |
Sam-I-Am | if you look at the beginning of the juno install guide (or kilo), it explains how to get packages for those versions | 17:09 |
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MikePar | ah, there it is. | 17:11 |
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MikePar | OK, I'll roll-back and do that | 17:12 |
MikePar | thanks | 17:12 |
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shaggycat | Sam-I-Am, hi again. Could you please help me? I not solve my problem of network | 17:14 |
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Sam-I-Am | shaggycat: whats the problem? | 17:16 |
shaggycat | Sam-I-Am, http://pastebin.com/8wmZuYsy | 17:16 |
shaggycat | Sam-I-Am, packet's not go | 17:16 |
shaggycat | between VMs (with internal bridge) go | 17:16 |
shaggycat | But between nodes and VMs not | 17:16 |
shaggycat | *packets | 17:16 |
Sam-I-Am | did you configure vlan 2001 on your switches? | 17:17 |
shaggycat | Sam-I-Am, yes | 17:17 |
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shaggycat | vlan2001 works between hardware systems | 17:18 |
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Sam-I-Am | eth1 is in your bridge mapping for vlan networks? | 17:18 |
shaggycat | Sam-I-Am, I can copy-paste /etc/neutron/plugins/ml2/ml2_conf.ini | 17:19 |
shaggycat | On some of nodes it names eth2 | 17:20 |
Sam-I-Am | paste please | 17:21 |
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shaggycat | Sam-I-Am, http://pastebin.com/qfTY4qDL | 17:23 |
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shaggycat | Sam-I-Am, thank you very much for help... I was wait week... I'm glud about you are now have a time | 17:24 |
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shaggycat | Sam-I-Am, how is your book? | 17:24 |
Sam-I-Am | shaggycat: published, maybe you should look at it | 17:25 |
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momoterraw | does anyone knows if ibm storage http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17585881/amazon-s3-direct-file-upload-from-client-browser-private-key-disclosure | 17:25 |
shaggycat | Sam-I-Am, OK. Thank you for your book from nub's openstack users :) | 17:26 |
momoterraw | can do this too | 17:26 |
Sam-I-Am | shaggycat: you created br-vlan and it has a port on some underlying interface? | 17:26 |
shaggycat | Sam-I-Am, is it about neutron? | 17:26 |
Sam-I-Am | shaggycat: yes | 17:26 |
momoterraw | i mean if open stack can do direct file upload with signed form | 17:26 |
shaggycat | my bigger problems to understand openstack is with Neutron :( | 17:26 |
Sam-I-Am | shaggycat: you might be interested in this chapter - http://docs.openstack.org/networking-guide/deploy.html | 17:26 |
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shaggycat | Sam-I-Am, yes, now I paste it | 17:27 |
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shaggycat | just a sec please | 17:27 |
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evilrob | Have we had the "who is going to Vancouver" discussion lately? | 17:28 |
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Sam-I-Am | i'll be there | 17:30 |
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shaggycat | Sam-I-Am, http://pastebin.com/zhNk3xZX | 17:31 |
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Sam-I-Am | shaggycat: i see your problem | 17:33 |
shaggycat | Sam-I-Am, thank you for link. I will read it after our conversation when I go in subway | 17:33 |
Sam-I-Am | you dont need a sub interface | 17:33 |
Sam-I-Am | openvswitch does the tagging for you on br-vlan | 17:33 |
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shaggycat | Sam-I-Am, and? | 17:33 |
Sam-I-Am | remove eth1.2001 from br-vlan, remove eth1.2001, and add eth1 as a port on br-vlan | 17:34 |
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Sam-I-Am | actually theres other stuff wrong here | 17:34 |
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Sam-I-Am | br-ex has only 1 flat network, or it needs to support vlans too? | 17:35 |
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shaggycat | but no tagging ifaces in this bridge | 17:36 |
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shaggycat | Really I make this mistake in br-ex | 17:36 |
shaggycat | I will fix it after some seconds | 17:36 |
Sam-I-Am | if you want to create vlan networks in openstack, the bridge needs to use a bare network interface | 17:37 |
shaggycat | br-ex has flat network | 17:37 |
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Sam-I-Am | shaggycat: then you can attach a bare interface to it, or a subinterface (like eth1.123) | 17:42 |
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Sam-I-Am | there might be cases where you want to use a flat network, but its actually tagged in your infrastructure | 17:42 |
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shaggycat | Sam-I-Am, why? | 17:43 |
shaggycat | I try to ping not flat | 17:43 |
shaggycat | ip | 17:43 |
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shaggycat | i try to ping demo-net | 17:43 |
Sam-I-Am | you wont be able to ping demo-net from the outside network | 17:44 |
Sam-I-Am | only from the vm | 17:44 |
shaggycat | from VMs to nodes no way. From VMs to VMs way is. And from nodes to nodes (in this network) | 17:44 |
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shaggycat | really? | 17:45 |
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shaggycat | but why dhcp-agent not works? | 17:45 |
shaggycat | and tcpdump is silent | 17:46 |
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Sam-I-Am | try with tcpdump -lnpei eth1 | 17:47 |
Sam-I-Am | see if it shows a vlan tag | 17:47 |
shaggycat | Sam-I-Am, http://pastebin.com/nDJEfC9Y | 17:47 |
shaggycat | No life here | 17:47 |
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shaggycat | in namespace | 17:47 |
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shaggycat | but in host system, not in OS container, life is | 17:48 |
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Sam-I-Am | the vm is using a vlan tenant network demo-net? | 17:48 |
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shaggycat | http://pastebin.com/nGT7p8eR | 17:50 |
shaggycat | Sam-I-Am, yes, it is a correct | 17:50 |
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Sam-I-Am | that should be on eth1 on the compute node? | 17:51 |
shaggycat | and in router and dhcp namespaces in network node no detect life by tcpdump | 17:51 |
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shaggycat | but in host namespace life is | 17:51 |
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shaggycat | is it correct? | 17:51 |
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Sam-I-Am | what does tcpdump -lnpei eth1 on compute node say? | 17:52 |
shaggycat | eth1.. just a sec | 17:52 |
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Sam-I-Am | you might need to generate traffic from within the VM (access by console) | 17:52 |
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shaggycat | I think, you mean eth0. It is a my mistake. I need to change names of ifaces. | 17:53 |
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shaggycat | no life in compute node | 17:53 |
shaggycat | eth0, eth1 | 17:53 |
shaggycat | oh no | 17:54 |
shaggycat | Life is! | 17:54 |
shaggycat | http://pastebin.com/UmhVGuhV | 17:54 |
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shaggycat | Sam-I-Am, eth0 on compute is same eth1 on network node | 17:55 |
shaggycat | i will rename to eth0 in future | 17:55 |
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Sam-I-Am | if you do tcpdump -lnpei eth1 the network node, you should see dhcp requests with vlan tag 2001 | 17:56 |
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shaggycat | Sam-I-Am, yes. Only in root namespace | 17:57 |
shaggycat | But inside dhcp and router namespaces no | 17:57 |
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Sam-I-Am | it wont be tagged inside of the namespace | 18:00 |
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shaggycat | Sam-I-Am, may be I say incorrect: inside namespace no eth1 | 18:01 |
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shaggycat | but here is bridge tails | 18:01 |
shaggycat | and here is silient | 18:01 |
Sam-I-Am | there wont be an eth1 inside the namespace | 18:01 |
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Sam-I-Am | on the network node, you have vlan mapped to br-vlan, with a port on eth1? | 18:02 |
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shaggycat | bridge_mappings = vlan:br-vlan,external:br-ex | 18:04 |
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shaggycat | Sam-I-Am, eth1, | 18:06 |
shaggycat | yes, it is a vlan port' | 18:07 |
shaggycat | and it is in br-vlan | 18:07 |
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shaggycat | and on compute I has a eth0 inside br-vlan | 18:08 |
shaggycat | * I have | 18:08 |
Sam-I-Am | yeah, and that should be fine | 18:08 |
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Sam-I-Am | if you see the dhcp request coming in on eth1, but it doesnt get into the namespace... something isn't working | 18:09 |
Sam-I-Am | you need to figure out where it stops | 18:09 |
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shaggycat | Sam-I-Am, yes. And I try to figure out this in last week | 18:09 |
shaggycat | I figure out this some days before | 18:09 |
Sam-I-Am | if you do 'ovs-ofctl dump-flows br-vlan' you should see a flow for vlan 2001 | 18:10 |
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Sam-I-Am | i have to go for a bit | 18:10 |
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shaggycat | Sam-I-Am, http://pastebin.com/bJ9cXNHi | 18:11 |
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Sam-I-Am | looks like thats working | 18:11 |
shaggycat | Sam-I-Am, ... | 18:11 |
Sam-I-Am | there should also be a vlan 2001 flow on br-int | 18:12 |
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shaggycat | Sam-I-Am, http://pastebin.com/7Lx5FVjh | 18:14 |
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shaggycat | Sam-I-Am, no on nethost | 18:15 |
shaggycat | It is a place of mistake? | 18:15 |
shaggycat | oh, no. | 18:15 |
shaggycat | On nethhost also is | 18:15 |
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shaggycat | :( | 18:15 |
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shaggycat | Sam-I-Am, I'm cry and want to beat my head against the wall :))) | 18:18 |
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shaggycat | I will try to reboot nethost and compute node | 18:22 |
shaggycat | may be it help? | 18:22 |
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shaggycat | In windows sometimes it works :))) | 18:22 |
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rlrevell | shaggycat: i think i already asked you this but have you tried deleting and recreating all networks? | 18:23 |
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shaggycat | rlrevell, yes | 18:24 |
shaggycat | and it is not help | 18:24 |
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shaggycat | interesting new information | 18:35 |
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shaggycat | namespaces has IPs | 18:36 |
shaggycat | and from root namespace, | 18:36 |
shaggycat | on network node, | 18:36 |
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shaggycat | Sam-I-Am, I can ping router namespace | 18:36 |
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shaggycat | Sam-I-Am, but can't ping dhcp | 18:37 |
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shaggycat | Sam-I-Am, http://pastebin.com/30hSUKKP | 18:38 |
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shaggycat | may be here is solution? | 18:38 |
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shaggycat | http://pastebin.com/Y1fbXrx7 it looks correct, did'nt it? | 18:42 |
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mbeierl | the google-fu fails me. Anyone have an example of doing static ip network config through cloud init (or is that offtopic here?) | 19:01 |
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loth | mbeierl: im having the same problem, all i have found is do write_files and restart network | 19:03 |
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mbeierl | loth: gotcha. I was afraid of that, but thanks! | 19:05 |
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loth | mbeierl: i found this page, https://access.redhat.com/articles/rhel-atomic-cloud-init-faq which has "network-interfaces", a largely undocumented directive however i was unable to get it to work | 19:07 |
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mbeierl | loth: interesting. I'll poke around (not expecting much) and see if I can find anything else further to support that | 19:07 |
loth | Im assuming its supposed to translate the debian-esque input to whatever your OS is, but i feel its more reliable ot just do write_files | 19:07 |
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mbeierl | probably :) | 19:08 |
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mbeierl | loth: yep, the cloud-init package that I have installed has no support for that stanza. No handlers will use it. | 19:19 |
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mbeierl | atactually ... even more fundamentally, how do I get neutron to assign a specific ip? If I change the IP manually via ifcfg, the floating ip association breaks | 19:40 |
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shaggycat | http://paste.org.ru/?h5m0fa is it correct? | 19:41 |
shaggycat | PORT_DOWN , LINK DOWN? | 19:42 |
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loth | mbeierl: have to create it when you make the neutron port | 19:44 |
loth | when you make the port there is an option for fixed address | 19:44 |
mbeierl | ah! | 19:44 |
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loth | you can also just give it a network, it give you a IP from the pool, and you can use that when you start the instance | 19:44 |
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mbeierl | loth: and then how do you associate the port with the vm on boot? via horizon or cli only | 19:45 |
loth | cli only | 19:45 |
loth | i made a simple script | 19:45 |
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loth | that pulls the data from the neutron port creation and other stuff into vars to edit userdata etc | 19:45 |
mbeierl | that is why. cli is where I was just headed. So I can create a series of ports for fixed addresses, or just assign via v4-fixed-ip= | 19:46 |
loth | yeah | 19:46 |
loth | in kilo the port stays when instance is deleted, in juno and below its deleted when instance is deleted | 19:46 |
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rlrevell | has anyone else found that devstack and network-manager really do not get along? | 20:21 |
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rlrevell | nm will just keep creating "Wired Connection 2, 3, 4, etc" and bounces your connectivity every minute or so | 20:22 |
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mbeierl | rlrevell: don't they normally say somewhere to turn nm off? | 20:30 |
rlrevell | mbeierl: quite possible i missed that. | 20:30 |
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loth | I always turn networkmanager off wherever possible | 20:31 |
rlrevell | mbeierl: yep, the docs say turn it off. | 20:31 |
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mbeierl | I got hit by something similar this week... | 20:32 |
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deltron | hey folks, anyone use dell storage arrays in their openstack environment? | 20:34 |
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orzel | Hello. I'm still fighting this "vif_type=binding_failed" | 22:53 |
orzel | Notre sure it's related, but i have this in neutron logs on my network node : http://pastebin.com/84NXZ0UE | 22:54 |
orzel | 10.11.3.94 is supposed to be a router i've created (between external and tenant network) | 22:54 |
orzel | and indeed, it doesn't ping | 22:54 |
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orzel | from what i understand, vif=type=binding_failed is somehow related to libvirtd, so i enabled logs (they are not by default!) and checked. But i can't find anything meaningful (to me) | 22:55 |
orzel | any hint on how to debug either problem ? (vif_type or arping) | 22:56 |
Sam-I-Am | its related to something asking for a network, but the network isnt available | 22:56 |
Sam-I-Am | usually | 22:56 |
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duffolonious | orzel: where is that IP? | 22:57 |
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duffolonious | 10.11.3.94 - this IP | 22:57 |
orzel | .94 ? it's an ip in my external subnet | 22:57 |
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orzel | allocated by neutron to a router for my tenant network | 22:57 |
duffolonious | and it's trying to ARP for this address and failing | 22:58 |
Sam-I-Am | i'm betting on a config error | 22:58 |
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orzel | Sam-I-Am: i'm pretty sure of that. I've followed both the usual install stuff and http://docs.openstack.org/networking-guide/deploy_scenario1a.html | 23:02 |
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orzel | the main difference between the two being the 'l2population' that i've never heard about | 23:02 |
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orzel | and the main difference between my setup and the doc is that i have only one nic. I have a bridge 'br-ex' configured with the ip of the node and with the nic attached. | 23:03 |
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orzel | it can ping/access outside | 23:03 |
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Sam-I-Am | all nodes only have 1 nic? | 23:05 |
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orzel | Sam-I-Am: er. yes. | 23:06 |
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orzel | only two nodes currently Controller and the network+compute one | 23:06 |
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Sam-I-Am | ok | 23:08 |
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Sam-I-Am | whats in your ml2 and l3 agent config files? | 23:08 |
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orzel | Sam-I-Am: i followed install + networking-guid/deploy.. you want me to pastbin them ? | 23:11 |
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Sam-I-Am | yeah | 23:12 |
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orzel | http://pastebin.com/xtDWB34s | 23:13 |
orzel | with openvswitch current output (not sure it matters) | 23:13 |
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orzel | i had "external_network_bridge = br-ex" previously | 23:14 |
orzel | i have removed vlan/vxlan stuff (i dont know about this well enough, and i'm not even sure the switch is vlan aware) | 23:14 |
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orzel | 10.11.3.10 is the ip on the br-ex bridge (+physical nic) | 23:15 |
Sam-I-Am | looking | 23:15 |
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Sam-I-Am | well, the vlan 4095s showing up in your ovs-vsctl tells me that there's a config issue for sure | 23:16 |
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orzel | oh, indeed. It tried to use vlan nevertheless | 23:17 |
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Sam-I-Am | well, there's internal (ovs) vlans and real vlans | 23:17 |
Sam-I-Am | two different things | 23:17 |
Sam-I-Am | ovs will always use internal vlans, with its own numbering scheme | 23:17 |
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orzel | (btw, i also have the sof link : plugin.ini -> /etc/neutron/plugins/ml2/ml2_conf.ini ) | 23:18 |
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orzel | Sam-I-Am: ok... then.. why is this 4095 bad ? | 23:18 |
Sam-I-Am | because it means ovs doesnt know how to map it | 23:18 |
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Sam-I-Am | why is root_helper in ml2_conf.ini? | 23:21 |
orzel | some remain of a previous config | 23:21 |
orzel | could hurt ? | 23:21 |
Sam-I-Am | yes | 23:21 |
Sam-I-Am | needs to be in neutron.conf if anywhere | 23:21 |
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Sam-I-Am | did you change the init script to ignore ovs_neutron_plugin.ini ? | 23:22 |
orzel | removed | 23:22 |
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orzel | er ... not sure about the init script. i'm on gentoo, and there's openrc init sripts (/etc/init.d/*) | 23:23 |
orzel | using ps i can see this :/usr/bin/python2.7 /usr/lib/python-exec/python2.7/neutron-openvswitch-agent --config-file /etc/neutron/neutron.conf --config-file /etc/neutron/plugins/openvswitch/ovs_neutron_plugin.ini --log-file /var/log/neutron/openvswitch-agent.log | 23:23 |
orzel | looks bad, no ? there's ovs_neutron_plugin.ini | 23:24 |
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orzel | i remember having read something about it | 23:24 |
orzel | they come from conf.d/neutron-openvswitch-agent:NEUTRON_CONFS=("/etc/neutron/neutron.conf" "/etc/neutron/plugins/openvswitch/ovs_neutron_plugin.ini") | 23:24 |
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Sam-I-Am | i'd change the ovs_neutron_plugin.ini part to reference /etc/neutron/plugin.ini or /etc/neutron/plugins/ml2/ml2_conf.ini | 23:25 |
Sam-I-Am | none of the install guides cover gentoo | 23:25 |
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orzel | Sam-I-Am: yes, unfortunately | 23:26 |
orzel | the gentoo project about it wouldn't "mind" me writing one :/ | 23:26 |
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Sam-I-Am | well anyway, make that change | 23:27 |
Sam-I-Am | looks like it isnt reading your ml2_conf.ini file otherwise | 23:27 |
orzel | ok. It changes things a bit. I still have no ping on the router, still the arping errors. But the ovs stuff is different now | 23:28 |
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orzel | http://pastebin.com/jt5UnANV | 23:28 |
orzel | looks better | 23:28 |
orzel | but still lot of 4095 | 23:28 |
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Sam-I-Am | probably need to delete and rebuild those networks | 23:30 |
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orzel | Sam-I-Am: easy | 23:31 |
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orzel | Sam-I-Am: done. Now the router pings ! | 23:34 |
orzel | (how excitint :-) | 23:34 |
orzel | exciting | 23:34 |
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Sam-I-Am | yay | 23:34 |
orzel | no more 4095 in ovs show | 23:35 |
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orzel | now trying to create instance | 23:35 |
orzel | ah, error with iptables-restore | 23:37 |
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orzel | i know how to fix this | 23:37 |
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orzel | i often have those. I changed the code to display the whole iptables file and i can try by hand. Usually it's some missing CONFIG_* in kernel. There's absolutely no documentation about the one required | 23:37 |
orzel | mostly it's about "use a redhat kernel" | 23:38 |
orzel | :) | 23:38 |
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Sam-I-Am | the stock kernels on the supported distros work fine | 23:40 |
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orzel | yeps | 23:41 |
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orzel | Ok, problem fixed. Now i got something harder http://pastebin.com/9zzRCU3d | 23:49 |
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orzel | Sam-I-Am: maybe you can help. I'm not familiar with this 'ipset', but until recently, gentoo required a patch to vanilla kernel to have ipset | 23:50 |
orzel | though it seems this is not needed with recent kernels | 23:50 |
orzel | i couldn't find more precise information (like is the stuff compatible or not with patch used by gentoo) | 23:50 |
Sam-I-Am | you could just disable ipset | 23:51 |
orzel | anyway the ipset stuff seems something not stabilized yet | 23:51 |
Sam-I-Am | seems like the gentoo kernel is stripped down? | 23:51 |
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orzel | i use the vanilla kernel actually | 23:51 |
orzel | unpatched | 23:51 |
orzel | gentoo has a kernel on its own, patched, not sure about ipset | 23:51 |
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orzel | there's no problem with disabling ipset ? will hurt perf ? | 23:52 |
orzel | i had noticed the setting, it seemed important | 23:52 |
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Sam-I-Am | it'll hurt performance at some point | 23:53 |
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orzel | ok, i can postpone | 23:54 |
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orzel | (but i write in down in my installation notes :) | 23:54 |
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