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Snick | Hello all, having a hard time with heat today. I am following the OpenSUSE guide on the docs site and everything went fine until I got to the heat part. | 00:31 |
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Snick | the problem I'm hitting is when I try to run any heat commands, "Timed out waiting for a reply to message ID ###" | 00:32 |
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RodrigoUSA | anyone up? | 01:38 |
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karthikg2007 | hey RodrigoUSA | 01:41 |
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raminoid | bearish: api takes 20sec to create vm. does that within the norms of OpenStack performance | 01:43 |
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RodrigoUSA | sup karthikg2007 | 01:50 |
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karthikg2007 | Hey RodrigoUSA, were you able to setup alerts by following the article yesterday? | 01:53 |
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RodrigoUSA | karthikg2007, nope I'm trying to fix the slowness issue not get alerts :/ | 02:06 |
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RodrigoUSA | karthikg2007, thanks anyway man for the article :) | 02:06 |
RodrigoUSA | karthikg2007, already got much better performance using lvm on nova.conf | 02:07 |
RodrigoUSA | but the same issue happends when i got couple of instances at once | 02:07 |
RodrigoUSA | :/ | 02:07 |
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KevinBowden | man there sure is a lot of documentation to read before i can get involved | 02:13 |
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KevinBowden | Currently reading the blueprints documentation | 02:14 |
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vincent_hou | jgriffith: ping. | 02:25 |
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jgriffith | vincent_hou: hey | 02:27 |
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yuxingw | Hi | 02:30 |
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vincent_hou | jgriffith: Per the issue in here https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1450649 In fact, the current code has two mechanisms to bind the cinder volume id and the back-end id. provider_location and _name_id. I tried the retype between LVM and Storwize, and it worked fine. | 02:31 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1450649 in Cinder "Retyping with migrate to new backend not renaming volume on backend device" [High,Triaged] - Assigned to Vincent Hou (houshengbo) | 02:31 |
vincent_hou | The binding is already done in the database. | 02:32 |
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jgriffith | vincent_hou: interesting, guess I'll have to test it to see if I can figure out what was reported | 02:32 |
vincent_hou | Please help with the retype between LVM and solifire for example | 02:33 |
jgriffith | vincent_hou: the description from tbarron and sean I thought it was strictly the vol name update | 02:33 |
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vincent_hou | and tell me your results. | 02:33 |
jgriffith | vincent_hou: will do | 02:33 |
vincent_hou | Please check the database columns _name_id and provider_location in volumes. | 02:33 |
vincent_hou | for a successful migration | 02:34 |
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jgriffith | vincent_hou: so FYI that's not really the issue | 02:34 |
jgriffith | vincent_hou: at least based on my understanding | 02:34 |
jgriffith | vincent_hou: but I'l take a look | 02:34 |
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vincent_hou | I suspected this issue would rise before, so I did some tests. it turned out all right. However, if we still think it is necessary to have a update. certainly it can be added. | 02:35 |
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Egyptian[Home] | has anyone heard of openstack arbitrarily deleting instances and/or networks? | 02:44 |
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evanjfraser | hey guys | 03:16 |
evanjfraser | is there any way, with the 3PAR driver to correlate between volumes as cinder sees them, and as the array names them? | 03:16 |
evanjfraser | I'm not sure how the driver manages the vols | 03:16 |
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KevinBowden | did you guys see that we made it to the stories on Linux Today? | 03:25 |
KevinBowden | http://www.linuxtoday.com/high_performance/the-unofficial-guide-to-openstack-summit-vancouver-150506072509.html | 03:25 |
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t0mb0 | hey, regarding openstack for home lab/dev use: can anyone recommend consumer NAS devices that work with ceph/cinder? | 03:39 |
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evanjfraser | to answer my own question, the 3par driver base64 encodes the openstack volume UUID to give it the volume name it uses within the 3par array. | 04:50 |
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skullone | ive done something kinda funny, to work around the mess that is Openstack DNS | 04:59 |
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skullone | using cloud-init, when an instance first boots, scripts pulls the hostname from the meta-data service | 05:00 |
skullone | it constructs an 'nsupdate' command to update A and PTR records using that meta-data | 05:00 |
skullone | ghetto dynamic DNS :p | 05:00 |
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zzxwill | I wrote a heat resource plugin with a method handle_update(). But I found _resource_update() in /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/heat/engine/update.py was NOT executed when I ran "heat stack-update", nor was handle_update(). Any suggestion on debugging this? The log from engine.log showed that the sql for updating cpu and men was correct. http://paste.openstack.org/show/215903/ | 08:12 |
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kiran-r | How to disable dashboard/horizon? | 08:43 |
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wigwam_work | hello! | 09:18 |
wigwam_work | Any experience with openstack kilo installation on debian jessie? | 09:18 |
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dbuechler | Hi! | 09:26 |
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User17 | while launching instance as admin.. I got no valid host error.. But still the created instance is displayed in instances | 09:54 |
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_nick | anyone here run the set of defcore tempest interop tests? | 09:57 |
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elurkki | Testing Kilo here and faced problem when nova-api-metadata informs that X-Instance-ID-Signature does not match the expected value. I have checked that neutron_metadata_shared_secret in nova configuration is same as neutron metadata_agent.ini one. Just can not figure out what is the problem. Thanks for any tips. | 10:12 |
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morsik | hi… how can i permanently destroy instances? after rebooting controller (it's testing openstack) i was unable to terminate instances and they hung in "Deleting" state. | 10:15 |
morsik | I tried 'reset-state' then 'delete', I tried rebooting compute nodes, I tried even removing /var/lib/nova/instances/<uuids>… | 10:16 |
morsik | nothing works. I have 32 instances with "deleting" state since yestarday | 10:16 |
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lighthouse | morsik: i'd not recommend deleting files from /var/lib/nova | 10:16 |
morsik | lighthouse: i found this somewhere on the net | 10:16 |
lighthouse | morsik: can you hop onto the compute node and tailing /var/log/nova/nova-compute.log as you delete instances | 10:16 |
lighthouse | morsik: it may be worthwhile to also do a 'nova service-list' and make sure all services are happy | 10:17 |
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morsik | lighthouse: yeah, something failed after this action… i'll take a look. thanks -.- | 10:21 |
morsik | stupid me. | 10:21 |
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lighthouse | morsik: i've seen something similar in my test env and restarting nova-compute usually clears stuff out, but i'm not sure what implications of doing that are | 10:23 |
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morsik | lighthouse: funny thing, cause systemctl restart reports error after trying to restart openstack-nova-compute, but nova-compute still writes to log… | 10:27 |
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morsik | strange… no errors in log, but it doesn't works, and service-list shows 'down' on all compute nodes | 10:29 |
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lighthouse | morsik: what is the error it's reporting ? | 10:35 |
morsik | lighthouse: it doesn't show any error in log actually. | 10:35 |
morsik | and systemctl status openstack-nova-compute shows: | 10:35 |
morsik | Starting OpenStack Nova Compute Server... | 10:35 |
morsik | that's all. | 10:35 |
SamYaple | hey morsik | 10:36 |
morsik | in nova-compute.log i just see AMQP connections | 10:36 |
SamYaple | so you have instances stuck in "deleting" for how long? | 10:36 |
morsik | erm… 16 hours? :D | 10:37 |
SamYaple | yea so those messages are probably gone :) | 10:37 |
morsik | they are doesn't exists at all right now, and compute nodes are in 'down' state. | 10:37 |
morsik | SamYaple: i rebooted controller, and got this problem. while trying to fix I rebooted compute nodes too, and all are down hah :D | 10:37 |
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SamYaple | well in that case you can try to reset the instance state and then delete again, but that probably wont work with the compute service down | 10:37 |
morsik | SamYaple: reset state doesn't works. tried this about 10 times… | 10:38 |
SamYaple | your fist step should be getting the compute services up again | 10:38 |
SamYaple | you can always cleanup instances later | 10:38 |
morsik | i'll redeploy salt configuration… maybe i forgot about something… but nova-compute doesn't want to start anyway -.- wtf | 10:39 |
SamYaple | compute service checks in via the message-broker (rabbitmq) are you see errors related to that? | 10:39 |
morsik | in rabbit logs? nothing at all except correct connection information | 10:39 |
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SamYaple | no youll see the errors in the compute log | 10:40 |
SamYaple | you *may* have to turn on verbose/debug to catch some errors | 10:40 |
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morsik | SamYaple: nothing interesting. all log is just: https://dpaste.de/LTDN (.13 is disabled intentionally, it was previosly too when it worked all) | 10:42 |
morsik | this is that i see after restarting compute service. nothing more | 10:43 |
morsik | just repeating above text | 10:43 |
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SamYaple | how many rabbit nodes do you have? | 10:44 |
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morsik | right now… 1. | 10:45 |
morsik | (previously it was 1 too) | 10:45 |
SamYaple | then why is your config trying to connect to .13 and then .11? | 10:45 |
morsik | we disabled other controller nodes for easier log reading just from one, and I rebooted that one | 10:45 |
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morsik | SamYaple: cause we have .11, .12, and .13 in config already. | 10:46 |
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morsik | but .12 and .13 doesn't works yet :P | 10:46 |
morsik | connrefused is ok here. | 10:46 |
SamYaple | my advice would be to get your rabbitmq cluster up and running first. or remove the entries from teh config | 10:46 |
SamYaple | the services not checking in are becauase they are not able to talk over the message-broker. start there | 10:47 |
morsik | SamYaple: but it connects correctly to .11 ;f | 10:48 |
morsik | also — fixing nodes list — of course — doesn't helps. | 10:48 |
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SamYaple | i understand that. my advice still stands. remove the nonworking rabbit nodes and restart teh services across your environemnt, or properly setup the cluster | 10:48 |
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elurkki | Any tips for this metadata problem ? http://pastebin.com/yPsh5sxm. Thanks a lot | 11:55 |
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ashishjain | Hello | 12:14 |
ashishjain | Somehow user_data section in my heat template is not working | 12:14 |
ashishjain | are there any pre-requisites to make it work? | 12:14 |
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skoude | any best practices how to backup volumes and inctances? | 12:22 |
skoude | ot how do you manage the backups ? | 12:22 |
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nikil22 | hi i have changed the openstack default password and now i don't remember how can i reset the password | 13:40 |
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nikil22 | i know the admin token is available in /etc/keystone/keystone.conf but not sure now to use it | 13:40 |
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aryklein | Sam-I-Am: How can I create a provider network available only for a tenant. When I perform "neutron net-create --provider:network_type=vlan --provider:physical_network=external --provider:segmentation_id=10" it returns Policy doesn't allow create_network to be performed | 13:48 |
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aryklein | I know I've to modify /etc/neutron/policy.json, but is it possible to create with the admin user shared only for one tenant? | 13:50 |
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rlrevell | nikil22: should be able to run the first three export commands here http://docs.openstack.org/juno/install-guide/install/apt/content/keystone-users.html | 13:50 |
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rlrevell | then use keystone password-update | 13:50 |
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nikil22 | rlrevell ok thanks | 13:53 |
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Sam-I-Am | aryklein: provider networks are created by admin only | 14:10 |
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Sam-I-Am | aryklein: however, you can specify a tenant that can use them with --tenant-id | 14:10 |
Sam-I-Am | (without --shared) | 14:10 |
aryklein | Sam-I-Am: ok.. yeap. I've found it out in the neutron help. Thanks! | 14:10 |
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aryklein | Sam-I-Am: it is not clear for me the difference between Network and Subnet in openstack | 14:11 |
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SamYaple | aryklein: 'network' == L2; 'subnet' == L3 | 14:12 |
aryklein | Sam-I-Am: I interpret the Nework like the vlan | 14:12 |
SamYaple | thats about how it is | 14:12 |
Sam-I-Am | a network can have multiple subnets | 14:12 |
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aryklein | SamYaple: yes exactly :) | 14:12 |
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aryklein | SamYaple: in my case is like a vlan | 14:13 |
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orzel | hello. Any idea what the flag "Protected" does when creating a glance image from horizon ? | 14:22 |
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larsks | orzel: it prevents one from deleting the image. | 14:23 |
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orzel | larsks: oh. ok. thanks :) | 14:24 |
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aryklein | If I create an instance with "nova boot --image IMAGE --flavor FLAVOR --nic net-id=NET-ID,v4-fixed-ip=IP-ADDR VM_NAME" and then I wanna change the fixed IP, how can I do? | 14:32 |
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aryklein | cause if I change the IP in the instance it lose connection. (I'm working with provider network) | 14:32 |
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Sam-I-Am | you create a new vm :) | 14:33 |
aryklein | Sam-I-Am: is it the only way? | 14:34 |
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Sam-I-Am | unless there's some way to update the vm that i'm missing | 14:35 |
Sam-I-Am | if you change the ips, the security groups dont know, so it wont pass traffic | 14:35 |
larsks | aryklein: I guess you could add a new interface and delete the old one. | 14:35 |
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aryklein | But is it not possible to leave it free for the instance. I mean... for example I wanna add a new IP on the fly on my eth0 | 14:36 |
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larsks | aryklein: I don't think you can do that. Maybe the allowed-address-pairs stuff would be applicable depending on your use case: http://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide-cloud/content/section_allowed_address_pairs.html | 14:38 |
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Sam-I-Am | aryklein: not unless you disable sec groups | 14:38 |
Sam-I-Am | not sure why you'd want to change IPs on the fly | 14:39 |
Sam-I-Am | just spawn a new vm. its cloud. | 14:39 |
Sam-I-Am | things are ephemeral | 14:39 |
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aryklein | Sam-I-Am: yes but for example If I have a dns server, how can I spawn a new DNS if my actual instance have a lot of configs | 14:41 |
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aryklein | Sam-I-Am: for example maps, cache, config in the etc | 14:41 |
Sam-I-Am | create snapshot, launch new instance | 14:42 |
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Sam-I-Am | hopefully there's always >1 dns server | 14:42 |
Sam-I-Am | also, load balancers | 14:42 |
Sam-I-Am | brb | 14:42 |
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aryklein | and is it possible to instance a vm with multiple ip? | 14:45 |
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aryklein | can I use multiple "v4-fixed-ip" argument? | 14:47 |
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aryklein | and disable security group should be dangerous? | 14:53 |
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Sam-I-Am | you can have > 1 nic, each nic with a different ip | 15:04 |
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aryklein | Yes... but i was trying to avoid virtualize another nic | 15:08 |
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Sam-I-Am | i'm not quite understanding why you need to do all this | 15:08 |
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orzel | when creating an instance and the nova-compute doesn't have the image yet, it is downloaded. Is there any kind of rate-limiting for this ? I got 10mps, while the network is 100mb/s | 15:12 |
orzel | and there's almost nothing else currently going through the pipes | 15:12 |
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Sam-I-Am | orzel: shouldnt be any | 15:16 |
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aryklein | Sam-I-Am: I wanna use IP aliasing. Multiple IP address in the same NIC | 15:18 |
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Sam-I-Am | why? | 15:21 |
Sam-I-Am | you cant do this | 15:21 |
orzel | straightforward answer :) | 15:21 |
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orzel | i keep on getting weird behaviour. Very often, an instance is started, it takes ages to download the image, and then i have an error "aha, no, i can't find a host, can't start the vm" | 15:22 |
morsik | SamYaple: thanks… i deployed rabbitmq configuration on all 3 nodes and it works again… this is very strange that it worked previously with only 1 node! | 15:22 |
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orzel | and worst thing : the image is deleted from compute node. It was there (with '.part'), not any more! | 15:22 |
orzel | how weird | 15:22 |
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morsik | SamYaple: just looks like before reboot i had different configuration and after reboot it was started with clustered configuration which didn't worked without quorum ;o | 15:23 |
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morsik | or 1 or rabbits have some strange problem… ;\ | 15:24 |
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aryklein | Sam-I-Am: wow! I could it. Yes you can use IP aliasing. This is what I've done: http://paste.openstack.org/show/216259/ | 15:48 |
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aryklein | before nova boot, I have created a neutron port with two fixed IPs, and then instance with this port | 15:49 |
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Sam-I-Am | yeah, there is that | 15:49 |
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aryklein | Sam-I-Am: each virtualized interface uses non-virtual CPU resources. This is my idea to use IP aliasing. In my case both ip address are in the same vlan, so I wanna avoid waste resources. It could not make much sense but... | 15:53 |
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Sam-I-Am | still not following | 16:00 |
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jwitko | Sam-I-Am, i think he is saying that the virtual interfaces created are taking resources from the bare metal OpenStack node (controller, compute, etc.) on a per virtual interface basis. | 16:10 |
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jwitko | so he wants to use IP aliasing on the bare metal level to alleviate the concern of resource consumption by virtual interfaces in openstack? | 16:11 |
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Sam-I-Am | i dont know | 16:11 |
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Night_Elf | Hi all. I read everywhere that Devstack is not the right thing to be used beyond demotesting. So then, what is to be used if I'd like to build a beyond-demotesting openstack? Even if it is for me alone as a plaything, how can I get away from the 'demo and testing' and be closer to what a proper thing would be? | 16:17 |
Sam-I-Am | Night_Elf: just install it using the install guide? | 16:17 |
Sam-I-Am | thats a good next step | 16:17 |
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Sam-I-Am | teaches you have all the things work. then you can learn how to secure/HA it... then automate deployments. | 16:18 |
Night_Elf | Sam-I-Am: What I have found is references to devstack. Or maybe I'm missing the proper install guide. | 16:18 |
Sam-I-Am | docs.openstack.org | 16:18 |
Sam-I-Am | or you can try an existing automated deployment system like https://github.com/stackforge/os-ansible-deployment | 16:19 |
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Night_Elf | Sam-I-Am: ok. I will check these references. Thanks for this. | 16:19 |
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Night_Elf | Another question. Most of what I have been able to find is guides how to setup openstack on an Ubuntu initial base installation. I wonder how different is that from a Debian initiall installation? That is what I'd really like to use. | 16:23 |
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Sam-I-Am | you dont want to use debian | 16:25 |
annegentle | Night_Elf: Debian has a configurator that makes it pretty different from Ubuntu in execution. | 16:25 |
Sam-I-Am | unless you install openstack from source | 16:25 |
annegentle | Night_Elf: there's a bunch of bugs with that approach it seems, Sam-I-Am did a lot of investigation | 16:25 |
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Sam-I-Am | for a first-timer you'll have a better experience on ubuntu, rhel, suse, etc. | 16:25 |
Sam-I-Am | you can sort of follow the ubuntu guide with debian packages | 16:25 |
Sam-I-Am | but the benefit of one of the 'supported' distros is it generally works when you're done | 16:26 |
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Night_Elf | Sam-I-Am: annegentle: I see. I will see to continue with Ubuntu then. I don't want to mix much with redhat-ish distros as my experience is mostly with Debian and where not possible with that, then Ubuntu. | 16:27 |
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vinayus | hi is "nova security group" and "neutron security groups" same??? | 16:28 |
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larsks | vinayus: yes, in general. That is, when you are using neutron, the nova secgroup-* commands actually manipulate neutron. | 16:32 |
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vinayus | i'm facing some issue with setting up iptables.. i am manually writing iptable rules... so wanted to know whether neutron security group has more power than nova.. | 16:33 |
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vinayus | btw i have ovs enabled.. | 16:34 |
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vinayus | by changing default security groups from dashboard isnt helping me much.. | 16:34 |
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Sam-I-Am | if you're using neutron, any security groups you set are implemented in neutron | 16:35 |
Sam-I-Am | unless your config is wrong | 16:35 |
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Sam-I-Am | there is no nova/neutron | 16:35 |
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vinayus | okay... | 16:35 |
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vinayus | but they're not replicating same in iptables.. wonder what i am missing... | 16:36 |
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vinayus | thanks for tip Sam-I-Am | 16:36 |
Sam-I-Am | they would show up in iptables on the compute nodes | 16:36 |
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Sam-I-Am | if they're not being set, you might have a config problem | 16:37 |
vinayus | ok | 16:37 |
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aryklein | jwitko: exactly... this is my idea! | 16:48 |
aryklein | jwitko: you have explained better than me ;) | 16:48 |
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jwitko | glad i could help | 16:57 |
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koralgolek | Hi everyone, I start using openstack and I'm wondering if is it possible to attach directly local disk to vm? I guess cinder throught iscsi would be slower than local storage. Local storage I also mean LUN by Fibre Channel. | 17:38 |
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larsks | koralgolek: You do have options other than cinder + lvm; take a look at the list of cinder volume drivers at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CinderSupportMatrix | 18:04 |
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larsks | Sorry, s/cinder+lvm/lvm+iscsi/ | 18:04 |
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koralgolek | Id like to adopt my existing setup: I've several servers with hba cards yet. im using now ganeti and to whole servers there is presented LUN with LVS VG | 18:11 |
koralgolek | every lv is separate vm | 18:11 |
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koralgolek | I was wondering if it is possible on openstack | 18:12 |
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aryklein | larsks and Sam-I-Am, just as contribution I found out how to change the IP without spawning a new instance. I've just created a new neutron-port, and attached it to my instances, and detached the old. | 18:17 |
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larsks | arksi: that is pretty much exactly what I suggested earlier. | 18:18 |
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larsks | aryklein: Sorry, that was for you. | 18:18 |
larsks | Bad tab complete. | 18:18 |
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aryklein | larsks: ahh ok... I did't understand what you've suggested cause now I'm understanding how port works. Yes it works fine :) Thanks! | 18:21 |
larsks | \o/ | 18:21 |
aryklein | larsks: neutron port are like networks card? is ok? | 18:21 |
larsks | Yes. | 18:22 |
aryklein | vulgarly | 18:22 |
larsks | Uhhh...? | 18:22 |
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koralgolek | btw is it possible to manage network traffic from vm's with external, physical router? | 18:22 |
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aryklein | larsks: and how can I see them with ovs command? is it possible? | 18:23 |
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koralgolek | assume I have to every physical node connected trunk with different vlans | 18:23 |
larsks | koralgolek: Sure. Depends on what you want to do. Neutron "provider networks" effectively wire up your instances directly to physical L2 networks. | 18:23 |
aryklein | kodiakfff: provider networks like larsks told you :) | 18:24 |
larsks | aryklein: The ports would be visble as tap devices on your compute host, that would be connected to an OVS bridge via a legacy linux bridge device. | 18:24 |
aryklein | sorry koralgolek this was for you | 18:24 |
larsks | aryklein: this might help explain how things are connected: http://blog.oddbit.com/2013/11/14/quantum-in-too-much-detail/ | 18:24 |
larsks | A little old now, but still a reasonable overview. | 18:24 |
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aryklein | larsks: thanks! :) | 18:25 |
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aryklein | larsks: they use legacy linux bridge cause they support iptables rules. Right? | 18:25 |
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larsks | That's correct. | 18:25 |
aryklein | larsks: I mean... there is where Security Group are applied using iptables | 18:26 |
larsks | Right, that continues to be correct :) | 18:26 |
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aryklein | larsks: and if I'm using provider network, the instance traffic goes to br-int-->br-ex (in the compute node) instead of br-tun (like tenat network). Is it ok? | 18:30 |
larsks | That sounds fine. THe idea behind provider networks is that they are directly attached to your compute hosts, so traffic does not transit the network node. | 18:31 |
aryklein | larsks: thanks... now it is more clear for me :) | 18:31 |
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goberle | Hello, I'm trying to get resize working for local stored instances on KVM (qcow2 disks), I've configured the password-less ssh access for the nova user but at the end, I get an error that disks are not found on the destination node and when I check on that node, disks have not been migrated to the new schedulded hypervisor. On the other hand, migration and live migration of instances work very well. Any idea what the problem could be ? | 18:35 |
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goberle | (and I have nothing very intresting in the log either) | 18:36 |
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aryklein | what happen if I delete a flavor and there are some instances that are using this flavor? | 19:12 |
aryklein | is there any risk? | 19:13 |
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rlrevell | aryklein: i would think it doesn't matter because once the instance is built it doesn't care anymore. if it did, it would be a bug to let you delete it | 19:14 |
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Rivera | Anyone familiar with cinder + netapp configs? I can't get cinder to create a vol. It just stays stuck on "Creating" status | 19:15 |
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aryklein | rlrevell: ok! I'll to remove one used flavor | 19:15 |
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ashishjain | hello somehow my user_data section of heat template is not working | 19:36 |
ashishjain | rest all works without any issues | 19:37 |
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laney_ | why isn't it working? | 19:37 |
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ashishjain | laney_: Not sure what is the issue | 19:38 |
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ashishjain | laney_: I am using containers as OS::Nova::Server | 19:38 |
ashishjain | have also installed cloud-init in the container but still my user_data section is not executed | 19:39 |
laney_ | i'm not using containers so im not sure how much help i can be | 19:40 |
laney_ | cloud-init creates a log file | 19:41 |
laney_ | i would check there | 19:41 |
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laney_ | it also creates some data in /var/lib/cloud i think | 19:41 |
ashishjain | cloud-init creates a log file with-in the new instances? | 19:41 |
laney_ | ashishjain: yes. | 19:41 |
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ashishjain | laney_: no log file :( | 19:41 |
laney_ | should be /var/log/cloud* i think | 19:42 |
ashishjain | /var/lib/cloud is empty | 19:42 |
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laney_ | you can also see cloud-init output in the console | 19:42 |
ashishjain | you are correct /var/log/cloud* | 19:42 |
ashishjain | but nothing of that sort | 19:43 |
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ashishjain | so does that mean cloud-init was not invoked from container | 19:43 |
ashishjain | horizon console? | 19:43 |
laney_ | i don't know how containers work within openstack | 19:43 |
ashishjain | laney_: thanks for your help | 19:44 |
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larsks | ashishjain: what is your question about containers and openstack? | 19:46 |
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ashishjain | larsks: I am trying to execute user_data provided by heat in a container | 19:47 |
ashishjain | this container is deployed using OS::Nova::Server | 19:47 |
larsks | Does your container have cloud-init installed, and is it configured to run at boot? That would be relatively unusual for any pre-packaged container. | 19:47 |
larsks | What image are you trying to boot? | 19:47 |
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ashishjain | larsks: While building my container I have installed cloud-init using apt-get install cloud-init | 19:48 |
ashishjain | so my container does have cloud-init | 19:48 |
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ashishjain | larsks: Image is a base ubuntu with cloud-init and a simple shell script to keep the container alive | 19:49 |
larsks | Okay. And did you arrange for cloud-init to run when the container starts? | 19:49 |
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ashishjain | http://paste.openstack.org/show/216417/ | 19:50 |
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ashishjain | larsks: no that I have not done | 19:51 |
ashishjain | Do I need to start cloud-init? | 19:51 |
larsks | So, it really depends what you expect your container to do when it starts. You would probably want to set up an entrypoint script (or maybe just a cmd script) that first runs cloud-init, then starts whatever your primary service is. | 19:51 |
ashishjain | lasrks here is my Dockerfile | 19:52 |
larsks | If you have "a simple shell script to keep the container alive", that suggests to me that maybe your container needs some architecture changes. | 19:52 |
ashishjain | http://paste.openstack.org/show/216418/ | 19:52 |
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ashishjain | larsks: thanks I think my only mistake in that case is that I have not started cloud-init | 19:53 |
ashishjain | while my container is booting | 19:53 |
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larsks | So, a container that is useful under openstack will typically also need to start some sort of long-lived service (like a web server, database server, etc). | 19:54 |
ashishjain | larsks: ultimately that is the use case | 19:54 |
larsks | I have a tiny webserver image I use for testing: https://registry.hub.docker.com/u/larsks/mini-httpd | 19:54 |
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ashishjain | currently it is just some hello world sample which i am trying to execute | 19:55 |
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larsks | For what it's worth, I don't think I've seen any practical examples of someone using cloud-init for container configuration. It | 19:55 |
larsks | It's possible, I guess, but maybe more heavyweight than you need. | 19:55 |
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larsks | I guess it depends on your use case. | 19:55 |
ashishjain | larsks: here is the use case | 19:56 |
ashishjain | I am going to deploy 2 containers using ehat | 19:56 |
ashishjain | heat | 19:56 |
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ashishjain | IP of one container would be written into the config file of another container during deploy time | 19:57 |
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ashishjain | Once both the container starts they will be able to talk to each other | 19:57 |
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ashishjain | larsks: does it make sense? | 19:57 |
ashishjain | and to write IP I need to somehow make user_data section work | 19:58 |
ashishjain | and for that I need cloud-init | 19:58 |
ashishjain | I hope it clarifies the complete use case | 19:58 |
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larsks | You don't necessarily need cloud-init. | 19:58 |
ashishjain | than? | 19:58 |
larsks | If you can stick the ip address into your user-data, you can just fetch it with curl. | 19:58 |
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ashishjain | I did not get you | 19:59 |
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larsks | All cloud-init does is make an http connection to the metadata server, and then do something with the data. You can just make that http connection yourself using curl. | 19:59 |
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larsks | If your data is just an ip address, you could do something like ipaddr=$(curl -s http://169.254.169.254/latest/user-data) | 20:00 |
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ashishjain | what is "http://169.254.169.254/latest/user-data" | 20:00 |
larsks | The benefit to cloud-init is if you need all of it's other services (setting hostnames, growing disk partitions, handling cloud-config files, handling multipart MIME archives,etc). If you don't need all that, you might be able to do something much simpler. | 20:00 |
ashishjain | larsks: thanks for pointing this out | 20:01 |
larsks | That is the canonical address of the openstack metadata service. THat is what cloud-init talks to to retreive your user-data. | 20:01 |
larsks | http://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide-cloud/content/section_metadata-service.html | 20:01 |
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ashishjain | larsks: somehow I do not see anything when I run curl http://169.254.169.254/openstack | 20:04 |
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larsks | Nothing? Or an error? | 20:04 |
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ashishjain | it just keeps connecting | 20:04 |
ashishjain | Connecting to 169.254.169.254:80... | 20:05 |
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ashishjain | I ran it from my controller node | 20:06 |
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larsks | Oh, that won't work. | 20:06 |
larsks | You need to run it from inside an instance. | 20:06 |
ashishjain | aah let me try | 20:07 |
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ashishjain | larsks: I am able to use curl now inside a container | 20:29 |
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ashishjain | but somehow unable to find user data | 20:29 |
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ashishjain | larsks: This does not give anything 'curl -s http://169.254.169.254/latest/user-data" | 20:34 |
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larsks | Did you set any user-data? | 20:35 |
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larsks | Using e.g., the user-data flag, or using the user_data: key in your heat template. | 20:35 |
ashishjain | larsks: here is what I did | 20:36 |
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ashishjain | http://paste.openstack.org/show/216455/ | 20:36 |
ashishjain | larsks: that is my heat template | 20:37 |
ashishjain | this is what I run curl http://169.254.169.254/openstack/latest/user_data | 20:37 |
ashishjain | from one of the instances | 20:37 |
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larsks | That looks fine for the most part. I have to take off for a bit, but I can actually test that out later this evening. | 20:39 |
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ashishjain | sure that would be great | 20:40 |
ashishjain | both the images are docker containers | 20:40 |
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ashishjain | how can I contact you again | 20:41 |
ashishjain | irc? | 20:41 |
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MilesDenver | Has any one worked with the new KVM Guest image for RHEL7.1? | 20:45 |
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MilesDenver | I'm having trouble adding to it…. Generally, I spin it up… add puppet and and save it (snapshot) then make a new images from the snapshot… but it quickly goes into Shutoff/shutdown state | 20:47 |
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MilesDenver | I'm going to try using cloud.cfg to install and configure puppet. In the past this hasn't worked for me. | 20:50 |
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marcusvrn | hi all, there is someone who are using ubuntu openstack cloud (juju + maas)? | 21:23 |
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baker | @marcusvrn I've used it before, but just to try it out | 22:03 |
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marcusvrn | baker: hmm.... I installed it and it's working fine, but the VNC console fo instances (horizon console) is not working... | 22:09 |
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marcusvrn | this message is returned: "console is currently unavailable. Please try again later." | 22:09 |
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marcusvrn | did you try it out or did you just install it? | 22:10 |
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baker | I got everything working with it | 22:11 |
baker | for openstack | 22:11 |
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baker | check nova-novncproxy.log on the controller | 22:11 |
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baker | I had this once a long time ago (not on the JuJu deplyoment) and I think it ended up being DNS resolution issues | 22:15 |
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cfriesen | so I've got a bizarre situation. I've got a couple of little openstack clouds, one with cinder using lvm/iscsi and the other with cinder using rbd/ceph. I'm trying to bring up the CentOS 7 image from http://cloud.centos.org/centos/7/images/ | 23:28 |
cfriesen | in both cases it works fine booting from image | 23:29 |
cfriesen | in the one using ceph it works fine booting from volume | 23:29 |
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cfriesen | in the one using lvm/iscsi I get segfaults in the guest when it tries to boot. if I log in anyways and check the md5sum of /bin/vi it's different than expected (and it's different ever time I reboot the instance) | 23:30 |
cfriesen | If I shut down the guest and mount the iscsi device directly on the host then everything looks fine. | 23:30 |
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cfriesen | ubuntu and fedora21 cloud images work fine booting from volume on both clouds | 23:31 |
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orzel | Sam-I-Am: remember me mentionning a problem with dns in VMs ? resolve.conf had a ip (for dnsmasq i guess), but names would not resolve. I fixed that by changing /etc/neutron/dhcp_agent.ini:dnsmasq_dns_servers (forwarders) | 23:45 |
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orzel | i never saw that mentionned in install documentation. I think it should (or maybe i've missed something else?) | 23:45 |
Sam-I-Am | by default it will use the ip of the dhcp server as the forwarder | 23:46 |
Sam-I-Am | it works for most people | 23:46 |
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Sam-I-Am | but it depends on the rest of your environment | 23:46 |
orzel | My guess was that the dhcp agent would use the resolv.conf of the host | 23:46 |
orzel | which would makes sense... no? | 23:46 |
Sam-I-Am | i dont remember what it does | 23:47 |
orzel | the ip found in resolv.conf in vms would poing. Just there was no dns there i think | 23:47 |
orzel | (ping) | 23:47 |
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orzel | er, i dont understand what you say the default is. | 23:47 |
orzel | that's in the case of a local tenant network. The ip was 192.168.0.3 (classical tenant subnet of 192.168.0.0/24) | 23:48 |
orzel | i wonder why 3 and not 1, but that's another story :) | 23:48 |
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orzel | this is still the ip in the vm in resolv.conf. So i guess there's a dnsmasq listening there that forward to what i've provided. | 23:49 |
orzel | previously it was already there but forwarding to... noone ? | 23:49 |
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Sam-I-Am | can the dns namespace see out to the world? | 23:53 |
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