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loth | Sam-I-Am: http://docs.openstack.org/kilo/install-guide/install/yum/content/glance-install.html auth_uri supposed to be there twice? | 00:43 |
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Sam-I-Am | loth: one is auth_url | 00:43 |
Sam-I-Am | hopefully someday that gets fixed | 00:43 |
loth | Also i dont see username or password in the config options http://docs.openstack.org/kilo/config-reference/content/ch_configuring-openstack-image-service.html | 00:43 |
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loth | supposed to be admin_? | 00:44 |
Sam-I-Am | some services dont import oslo middleware correctly | 00:44 |
Sam-I-Am | yeah | 00:44 |
Sam-I-Am | the config ref is auto generated, and sometimes the services dont do their docs consistently | 00:44 |
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loth | Sam-I-Am: is the new stuff 'auth_plugin' 'project_domain_id' etc needed? I'm using an existing juno config | 00:50 |
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loth | mine just has auth_uri, identity_uri, admin_tenant_name, admin_user, admin_password | 00:51 |
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iepupp | can i setup external network using ip aliasing ie adding port eth0:0 to br-ex | 02:08 |
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Sam-I-Am | loth: yeah you should use those things with kilo | 02:59 |
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Sam-I-Am | loth: they enable keystone v3 from services | 02:59 |
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mrunge | hello, I'm having an issue with launching an instance with neutron. can someone please give me a hand on how to debug a metadata timeout issue? | 12:15 |
mrunge | a log looks like this: http://paste.openstack.org/show/283846/ | 12:16 |
mrunge | (single network, network has a single router, one instance launched, got an ip address, but metadata is not being injected | 12:16 |
mrunge | (obviously) | 12:16 |
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Sam-I-Am | did you use the install guide or something else? | 12:24 |
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mrunge | Sam-I-Am, uh, I used a packstack install | 12:30 |
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mrunge | Sam-I-Am, basically this one here: https://www.rdoproject.org/Neutron_with_existing_external_network | 12:31 |
Sam-I-Am | its probably a config error somewhere | 12:32 |
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DaveJ__ | ndipanov: Hi, sorry to bother you again. I was having issues with the NumaTopology filter, and was hoping you could help. | 13:53 |
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ndipanov | DaveJ__, what's up | 13:53 |
DaveJ__ | ndipanov: I have a 32 core machine, and have two flavors one with 12 cores and 1 with 4 cores. With NUMA {"hw:cpu_policy": "dedicated"} on both flavours | 13:53 |
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DaveJ__ | ndipanov: I can launch two instances of the 12 core flavor on a single host. But it won't let me launch the 4 core flavor as well (i.e. I would be running 3 instances in total) | 13:54 |
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ndipanov | DaveJ__, you're going to have to report a bug if you think something is wrong | 13:55 |
ndipanov | be sure to attach the output of virsh capabilities and the instance xmls pls | 13:55 |
ndipanov | flavor show etc. | 13:56 |
DaveJ__ | ndipanov: Ok will do - just wanted to check the expected logic. | 13:56 |
DaveJ__ | Ok | 13:56 |
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ndipanov | well if you have 16 CPUs per numa node | 13:56 |
ndipanov | then it should work | 13:56 |
ndipanov | unless you reserve some cores for nova | 13:57 |
ndipanov | then it would fail | 13:57 |
ndipanov | potentially | 13:57 |
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DaveJ__ | I have 16 per node, but I've reserved 4 for the host (using isolcpu + vcpu_pin). So technically 14 in each node. So one 12 core system can fit in each, but then I need to spread my 4 core system across both numa nodes. | 13:57 |
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ndipanov | yep | 13:59 |
ndipanov | so you need to do a hw:numa_nodes=2 | 13:59 |
ndipanov | and you'll be grand | 13:59 |
ndipanov | well... should be | 13:59 |
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DaveJ__ | ndipanov: Thats what I thought. It doesn't seem to be working though. I'll double check my env and then raise a bug with the details you mentioned. Thanks | 14:00 |
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ndipanov | awesome thanks | 14:01 |
ndipanov | well | 14:01 |
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ndipanov | depends which cpus you reserved | 14:01 |
ndipanov | but yeah - report a bug and I'll comment | 14:02 |
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clouddig | using the openstack command line client, is there some way to list all projects associated with a user? | 14:13 |
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ogzy_ | i need urgent help | 14:43 |
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ogzy_ | after kilo upgrade at the compute node i dont have the related directory for a vm under /var/lib/nova/instances but a delta file, can i recover? | 14:44 |
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DaveJ__ | ndipanov: Defintely something not working as expected. Raised this https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1464286 | 14:50 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1464286 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "NumaTopololgyFilter Not behaving as expected (returns 0 hosts)" [Undecided,New] | 14:50 |
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ndipanov | DaveJ__, thanks - will look into it. | 14:53 |
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Verilium | Most of the information I'm finding about running OpenStack in HA with haproxy and such seem to mention being able to run haproxy on the controller nodes. But since most of the services seem to bind to all available IPs, which blocks haproxy from starting... Is the only solution to go through each service and force it to bind only to a specific IP? | 16:12 |
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RichardRaseley | Verilium: Can you reference the bit which talks about running haproxy on the controller nodes? | 16:13 |
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Verilium | http://docs.openstack.org/high-availability-guide/content/ha-aa-haproxy.html | 16:14 |
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RichardRaseley | I can't imagine a production scenario under which that makes sense. | 16:14 |
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Verilium | "Also it is a common practice to collocate HAProxy instances with existing OpenStack controllers." | 16:14 |
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Verilium | Most of the architecture diagrams I'm seeing also show this... Seems to make sense, technically. It's really just the port binding that's a surprise. | 16:15 |
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Verilium | Well, it makes sense, but it's still a surprise. As long as I can get all the services to bind to a specific IP. Seems I can, but yeah, wanted to make sure if this all made sense. | 16:16 |
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Sam-I-Am | Verilium: heads up, the current ha guide is old. | 16:17 |
Sam-I-Am | its being re-done | 16:17 |
RichardRaseley | Verilium: My response would be [citation needed]. In my mind, it's not much different than a traditional 3-tier web-app. You'd want the load-balancers to exist 'above' the thing(s) across which it is balancing load (I could be missing something). | 16:17 |
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RichardRaseley | Verilium: More directly - in the haproxy configuration, you should be binding it to a specified virtual_ip:port pair. | 16:18 |
Sam-I-Am | for security reasons, you probably dont want to co-locate haproxy (with a public ip) on any machine running the openstack control plane | 16:18 |
psjr | New here. Does anyone have experience with TryStack? I just joined the FB group and am waiting for access. | 16:18 |
Sam-I-Am | but if you have to, it should listen on some external IP/interface, and the services listen on something internal | 16:19 |
Verilium | Sam-I-Am: ...ah. :P | 16:19 |
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Verilium | RichardRaseley: Yeah, I can see what you mean, makes more sense, as far as splitting things up in tier... | 16:19 |
Sam-I-Am | ideally you dont run haproxy in production :) | 16:19 |
RichardRaseley | psjr: I have not used it. | 16:19 |
Sam-I-Am | but if you have to... | 16:19 |
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Verilium | RichardRaseley: Yes, the setup I was trying was to have 3 controller nodes with both keepalived, haproxy and the various API services, with a VIP. | 16:20 |
Verilium | Sam-I-Am: Why not haproxy? You mean, as opposed to a hardware solution? | 16:20 |
Sam-I-Am | yeah | 16:20 |
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Verilium | Yeah... Worse is, we have citrix netscalers... | 16:21 |
RichardRaseley | I think haproxy is a reasonable thing to run in production - depending on scale / requirements / etc. | 16:21 |
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Sam-I-Am | ick | 16:21 |
Verilium | But anyhow, maybe further down the road. For now, it's more for proof of concept and to get something up and running. | 16:21 |
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Sam-I-Am | yeah it'll work | 16:22 |
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RichardRaseley | Verilium: To answer your original question, yes. Explicitly scope the services to listen on the IP you want them to listen on. | 16:22 |
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Sam-I-Am | just be mindful of security if you put your lb on the same box as your openstack services | 16:22 |
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RichardRaseley | I try to shy away from '*' as a general rule. | 16:22 |
Verilium | RichardRaseley: Thanks for the info. I'll go with setting up 2 more instances for load balancing and have them in front of the rest. More VMs to setup, but less hassle with trying to bind all the services, heh. | 16:22 |
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RichardRaseley | Verilium: Note that you do now have Puppet modules to manage your netscaler. =] | 16:23 |
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Verilium | Heh, that could come in handy. | 16:24 |
Sam-I-Am | there's also os-ansible-deployment :) | 16:24 |
Verilium | Hmm, seems there's an ansible module too, interesting... | 16:24 |
Sam-I-Am | while we're on the topic of automation | 16:24 |
Verilium | Sam-I-Am: Yeah, OSAD is something I need to look into after this. | 16:24 |
Sam-I-Am | its pretty slick | 16:24 |
Verilium | I'm glad I set everything up manually for the comprehension aspect of it all. | 16:25 |
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RichardRaseley | Yep, lots of options - I am biased towards Puppet (employee), but +2 for more automation options. | 16:25 |
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Sam-I-Am | yeah thats important | 16:25 |
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Verilium | But now that it's been done... I just want to deploy more nodes automagically. :P | 16:25 |
Sam-I-Am | because automation wont help when openstack breaks in spectacular ways | 16:25 |
Sam-I-Am | the generally approved method is install manually (from docs.openstack.org), figure out what you need, secure it, then automate the things | 16:26 |
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Verilium | Yeah, I don't mind puppet, it's just that the implementation of it at the current workplace didn't work out for various reasons and the adoption of ansible seems to be working out a bit better. | 16:26 |
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Sam-I-Am | people used to write their own automation tools, but now there's a lot of pre-built options | 16:26 |
Verilium | Sam-I-Am: I'm already scared enough as it is as far as when it breaks or when I'll have to debug something. | 16:26 |
Sam-I-Am | ansible is pretty easy to learn | 16:26 |
Verilium | ...especially as far as the networking layer is concerned. | 16:26 |
Sam-I-Am | networking is the most fun | 16:27 |
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Sam-I-Am | have you looked at the networking guide? | 16:27 |
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Verilium | I have, I've seen the mention of network namespace usage and all. I kind of get it, at an overview perspective. But still... | 16:27 |
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Verilium | And then there's the other problem of getting the rest of the team more "familiar" with all of this to be able to debug it also. | 16:28 |
Sam-I-Am | get them all little lab environments | 16:28 |
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Verilium | I already have trouble having some of them learn ansible. | 16:29 |
arielleslie | " I kind of get it, at an overview perspective. But still..." Sums up my relationship with OpenStack very well. | 16:29 |
Verilium | Hehe. | 16:29 |
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Verilium | I still think my days might be "oh my god please don't break". | 16:29 |
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Sam-I-Am | i find there's always something i dont know | 16:30 |
ircclient | Hi, i want to change a doc in kilo release of swift , is it valid to do so . as no review for kilo is generated ? | 16:30 |
Sam-I-Am | but it helps to hire people that know stuff | 16:30 |
* Verilium nods. | 16:31 | |
Verilium | The whole idea of OpenStack is just so daunting. | 16:31 |
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Sam-I-Am | you find a lot of specialists but no one that knows all the services completely | 16:33 |
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Verilium | Well, it's so many different pieces/modules that I'm not finding that all that surprising. | 16:35 |
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jlombardo | I could use some help with a neutron issue. I am setting up a new stack and trying to add an external network with the vlan provider type but am getting the message: Invalid input for operation: physical_network 'physnet1' unknown for VLAN provider network. Anyone able to help out? | 17:02 |
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Sam-I-Am | jlombardo: you need a bridge mapping | 17:03 |
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Sam-I-Am | Verilium: i understand all of the services enough to configure/use them, but my focus is neutron | 17:04 |
jlombardo | I added the bridge mapping into the plugin.ini file for physnet1:br-ex on the network node and it shows in the neutron agent-show output | 17:04 |
Sam-I-Am | Verilium: hence the networking guide | 17:04 |
Sam-I-Am | did you also add it to the ml2_vlan section? | 17:05 |
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jlombardo | network_vlan_ranges = physnet1:200:202 | 17:05 |
jlombardo | bridge_mappings = physnet1:br-ex | 17:05 |
jlombardo | Should that propagate into the neutron.ml2_vlan_allocations table? | 17:06 |
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Sam-I-Am | not until there's a network | 17:07 |
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Sam-I-Am | also, you need network_vlan_ranges defined on all of your nodes | 17:08 |
Sam-I-Am | but the bridge mapping only needs to be on the node that has the bridge | 17:08 |
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jlombardo | Ah, so all compute nodes need the network_vlan_ranges for the external network to be able to create it? | 17:08 |
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Sam-I-Am | primarily the controller node | 17:09 |
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Sam-I-Am | since thats where the api and database are | 17:09 |
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jlombardo | That was it! Thank you so much. | 17:11 |
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Sam-I-Am | sure | 17:13 |
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Sam-I-Am | jlombardo: have you looked at the network guide? | 17:13 |
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jlombardo | I seem to often have trouble distinguishing between what configs go on the controllers vs the compute nodes vs the network nodes. I have looked at pieces of the guide but am putting in on my to-do list to re-read through tonight | 17:15 |
Sam-I-Am | when in doubt, you duplicate most of it | 17:15 |
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jlombardo | Good to know | 17:15 |
Sam-I-Am | however, the agent config is specific to the node | 17:15 |
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jlombardo | By agent config, do you mean the agent section in the plugin.ini and the ovs local_ip or something else? | 17:18 |
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raj_ | In the broad, Big Bad Internet (tm) hostnames are case-insensitve. I and a colleague have been trying to use forced_host, and took a host list (undercloud) showing the nova compute nodes and used those for the --availabilty-zone option. We were getting no valid host found. My colleague has found that the name compares are being made case-sensitive. Is this a known issue? (Juno) | 17:31 |
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Sam-I-Am | things like AZs are case-sensitive | 17:33 |
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raj_ | this wasn't the AZ part though, but the hostname part | 17:35 |
clouddig | using the openstack client, is there some way to list all projects associated with a user? | 17:36 |
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raj_ | and I'm told I may have started from a list of guest names, but perhaps I'm too Internet old-school, I'd have expected anything dealing with hostnames to do so case-insensitively | 17:37 |
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Sam-I-Am | hostnames should probably be case-insensitive, but guess names are not always host names | 17:37 |
Sam-I-Am | guest | 17:37 |
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raj_ | If you consider that bug-worthy, I'd be happy to submit one but need a pointer to where. | 17:40 |
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larsks | raj_: nova bugs can be filed at https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs | 17:46 |
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clouddig | I did openstack role add --project $project --user $user $role | 17:47 |
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larsks | clouddig: I think the answer is "no". There is some interesting discussion at http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15525827/is-it-possible-to-ge-the-list-of-tenants-a-user-is-associated-with-in-openstack on that topic. | 17:52 |
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clouddig | larsks: I guess I gave an answer to what I was trying to accomplish, not how to find it. I used a few commands to find the information | 17:54 |
clouddig | 1) openstack role assignment list | 17:54 |
clouddig | 2) openstack role list | 17:54 |
clouddig | 3) openstack user list | 17:54 |
clouddig | 4) openstack project list | 17:54 |
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clouddig | I then manually matched up IDs until I could see whether the user I was interested in was associated with a given project | 17:55 |
clouddig | larsks: rather laborious process that ^. | 17:55 |
larsks | Yeah. | 17:55 |
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raj_ | larsks, thanks, I'll go submit one now. | 18:02 |
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raj_ | hmm, I don't recall setting-up two-factor authentication but launchpad is asking me for such | 18:05 |
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larsks | Huh, I didn't even know that launchpad *supported* 2fa! | 18:08 |
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raj_ | seems to be some sort of beta which started in April. I switched to my "personal" login rather than my company-affiliated one and that seems to have gotten past it. I now have to figure-out how to find the openstack version :) | 18:12 |
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raj_ | anyway, for the curious: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1464348 | 18:15 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1464348 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "hostname comparison for foced_host should be case-insensitive" [Undecided,New] | 18:15 |
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loth | Sam-I-Am: can you clarify what should be placed in the auth section of [neutron] in nova.conf? The install guide mentions to use the traditional admin_username etc but the kilo docs say to use auth plugin? | 18:49 |
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Sam-I-Am | loth: for kilo? | 18:57 |
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Sam-I-Am | rather, when you say 'the install guide mentions to use the traditional...' which install guide? | 18:59 |
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Sam-I-Am | juno does, but it changes for kilo | 18:59 |
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loth | Sam-I-Am: http://docs.openstack.org/kilo/install-guide/install/yum/content/neutron-controller-node.html | 19:03 |
loth | "In the [neutron] section, configure access parameters:" | 19:03 |
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loth | however the recommended parameters are listed as deprecated in this doc http://docs.openstack.org/kilo/config-reference/content/list-of-compute-config-options.html | 19:04 |
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Sam-I-Am | loth: interesting, the nova folks must have crammed that change in just prior to release | 19:21 |
Sam-I-Am | loth: when i wrote the guide, those options didnt work | 19:22 |
Sam-I-Am | they still might not, but worth giving it a shot and then filing a bug on the docs if they do, or nova if they dont :) | 19:22 |
loth | What should the parameters be if using keystone v3? same as the keystone_authtoken section on this page? http://docs.openstack.org/kilo/install-guide/install/yum/content/ch_nova.html#nova-controller-install | 19:23 |
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Sam-I-Am | loth: it should look similar to the [nova] section of neutron.conf iirc | 19:32 |
Sam-I-Am | i think | 19:32 |
loth | Sam-I-Am: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8836580 ? | 19:32 |
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Sam-I-Am | id try that and see what happens | 19:33 |
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loth | Hmm, noticed region_name is missing from the nova.conf section but present in the neutron section | 19:34 |
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nova-newbie | hi, i hit an error were after I rebooted my VM the VM disappeared ....looking through the logs it see it was deleted out of the database due to it not being able to connect to the compute. Reason was during this time I had a network error which prevented connections to my compute. I was unable to recreate the problem so I can't get more logs. Wondering if there was somethign I could look at the would explain why my VM was to | 19:42 |
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sbfox | Hi all, anyone here done keystone with ldap and mysql hybrid ? | 21:10 |
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Sai | Hi all, I am trying to integrate Openstack juno and Opendaylight helium SR2 according to https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/OpenStack_and_OpenDaylight | 21:39 |
Sai | I am facing issues after the integration....the main concern is when I try to create a new network, I get an error "The service catalog is empty" | 21:40 |
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Sai | I checked output of keystone catalog and the output is not empty, can anyone tell me how I can resolve this issue? | 21:41 |
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mcgilln | Is there anyway to use the Cinder Scheduler to migrate volumes to different backends? | 23:15 |
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mcgilln | To my knowledge, the only way to migrate a volume is to specify the destination backend -- "host" | 23:17 |
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