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kLooaaDo you realize that basically after age 20 your body starts rotting, being worse and worser at everything? and that includes your brain too? you will eventually be stupid and naive just like children. or worse - you can get alzheimer's disease.  If you are alive now, I guarantee you that you will die eventually. And it can be really painful dying. Just read news or statistics how many people die in what ways DAILY. You will become one of them eventually02:55
kLooaa. One of that statistics number. nothing more.02:55
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crossbeauHello02:57
kLooaacrossbeau: Do you realize that basically after age 20 your body starts rotting, being worse and worser at everything? and that includes your brain too? you will eventually be stupid and naive just like children. or worse - you can get alzheimer's disease.  If you are alive now, I guarantee you that you will die eventually. And it can be really painful dying. Just read news or statistics how many people die in what ways DAILY. You will become one of them02:58
kLooaa eventually. One of that statistics number. nothing more.02:58
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crossbeauummmmm02:59
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crossbeauis anyone around to assist with setting up neutron external int to a vlan ?03:00
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iepupp how to check total size of block storage available? I have configured two block storage with 300gb and 100gb.05:30
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osnovhi all05:36
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osnovcan anyone please tell me how to get the source code of openstack rest api05:37
osnovI tried looking into github, but there are so many repositories and I can05:38
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osnovI am unable to figure out which repositiry to clone05:39
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Madkissis there any rationale that in Kilo on Ubuntu, a number of packages have suddenly started to depend on python-msgpack?06:26
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sr4fHi guys! I have a new Kilo installation, three node setup (controller, compute and network). Followed the documentation for installing on RHEL-CentOS7 and on trying to verify the successfull installation of the Compute service, I get some warnings when I execute `nova endpoints` on the Controller node. Example: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=yFxLnQ2D I have found the same problem on ask: https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/67284/new-kilo-install-unabl06:43
sr4fe-to-launch-instance-no-useful-errors-found/ but the solution provided there didn't work for me. Does anyone have any suggestion? Tnx!06:43
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Muntanerhey guys08:18
Muntanerhaving a problem with nova08:18
Muntanercan't delete or launch instances08:18
Muntanerlogs incoming:08:18
Muntanerhttps://review.openstack.org/19103508:18
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Muntanerhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/11734296/08:18
Muntanerhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/11734288/08:19
Muntaner(sorry for the review)08:19
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DevStok_hi all09:18
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DevStok_anyone know how swiftclient can talk with ceph radosgw?09:18
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pwacDevStok_: in the same way it would talk to regular Swift API endpoint. radosgw for the most part should be compatible with Swift API09:27
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DevStok_I get 400 error09:34
DevStok_invalidbucketname09:34
DevStok_i cant solve this issue09:34
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pwacDevStok_: sorry, I don't think I encountered that one... ;/09:40
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DevStok_anyway thanks09:42
DevStok_:)09:42
pwacDevStok_: does it work via the dashboard?09:42
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Muntanerhey gy09:44
Muntanerhey guys09:44
MuntanerI have "dead" vms in error state09:44
Muntanerand dashboard does not allow me do delete them09:44
DevStok_nova reset-state idvm09:45
Muntanerok!09:45
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DevStok_@pwac we dont use horizon but a dashboard federated with multiple nodes09:45
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DevStok_the keystone is only use swift09:46
DevStok_and talking with ceph on our node09:46
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MuntanerDevStok_, reset-state does nothing09:48
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MuntanerDevStok_, nova delete did the job ;)09:49
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DevStok_@muntaner have u solved?10:01
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MuntanerDevStok_, yea10:01
Muntanerthey were zombie machines10:01
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sr4fHi everyone, so far I have set up the controller node (sql, rabbitmq, keysotne,  glance, nova) and the compute node (nova). So, no networking yet... I'm following the official installation documentation. Everything is looking so far, except that I'm getting warnings that the services have no endpoints when I execute "nova endpoints" on the controller node. http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=yFxLnQ2D10:37
sr4fAre these warnings something to be worried about? Or are they normal for Kilo?10:37
pwacsr4f: try using the 'openstack' tool instead10:38
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sr4f@pwac will do! thnx for the suggestion10:40
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pwacsr4f: in general try to move away from the 'glance, keystone' etc tools, and use the 'openstack' tool for everything from command line10:42
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sr4f@pwac: Thanks for the tip! Right now I'm just following the official documentation and setting my lab environment for testing automation scripts. But as a general best practice I'll use the openstack tool for the command line instead of the service tools.10:45
pwacsr4f: the official documentation dates back to 194210:45
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sr4f@pwac: pfff... even so, I need a starting point :) And learning by mistakes and by trial and error is a good way to get to know the insides of OpenStack10:48
pwacsr4f: yup!10:48
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cooldharma06hi all11:20
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cooldharma06i am installing devstack in my machine and i am facing this error -> http://pastebin.com/kcpfzTHN11:24
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cooldharma06i did clean.sh and tried also getting same error11:24
cooldharma06any suggestions?11:24
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pwaccooldharma06: sure looks weird...11:50
pwaccooldharma06: no idea what it might be though..11:50
cooldharma06i think its like a bug/error i am logging in launchpad11:50
cooldharma06https://bugs.launchpad.net/devstack/+bug/146646511:51
openstackLaunchpad bug 1466465 in devstack "Single node - devstack installation failed by os.popen()" [Undecided,New]11:51
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ogzyis there anyone know an opensource horizon fork that is like commercial apperance?12:09
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pwacogzy: you can create you own themes to horizon for free12:50
ogzypwac, yes i had read it, thought maybe some project has already exist12:51
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DevStok_how can i create container on ceph from command line?12:55
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pwacDevStok_: google "creating ceph storage pools"13:00
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DevStok_sorry i mean bucket13:01
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pwacDevStok_: do you mean "bucket" in s3 terminology, or ceph terminogy?13:09
DevStok_ceoh13:09
DevStok_but the swiftclient call ceph radosgw which gives back invalidbucket name13:10
pwacDevStok_: I think you mean s3 terminology. Cephs bucket is something else http://ceph.com/docs/master/rados/operations/crush-map/#crushmapbuckets13:10
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VeriliumHow have people gone about to put the memcached layer into HA?13:32
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VeriliumEspecially in relation to keystone, which seems to be the issue I'm having at least.  I went ahead and disabled memcache from keystone.conf and things are working fine now, but at least things are working again.13:33
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pwacjust put memcached behind a haproxy13:51
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TMMhello! I'm attempting to follow the Kilo documentation for setting up a basic openstack on CentOS7 and everything seems to work until I hit the nova bit. nova endpoints shows "WARNING: glance has no endpoint in ! Available endpoints for this service:" before showing the endpoints and nova image-list fails, according to the glance api log:  Registr13:52
TMMy client request GET /images/detail raised NotAuthenticated13:52
TMMI've double checked my configuration and passwords, I've also reset the nova user's password13:53
TMMI've probably forgotten something dumb but I'm kind of out of ideas :)13:53
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TMMit seems to be actually the registry that's throwing an authentication error13:57
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TMMthe problem was that glance couldn't communicate with glance-registry because I misconfigured the glance-registry users' password in the keystone section14:03
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pwacTMM: thanks for clarifying14:09
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TMMpwac, yw, thanks for reading my drivel :)14:10
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ryan-rmrf100hi, I'm not sure the  one part inside the openstack ops guide http://docs.openstack.org/openstack-ops/content/network_design.html14:50
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ryan-rmrf100that  (inc spare)  inside the ip address planning table14:51
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ryan-rmrf100what's that  (inc spare)  mean?14:51
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ryan-rmrf100can some one good at english help ?14:51
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JamesHarrisonthat's just saying that there's one or more spare machines in that range, I think14:53
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ryan-rmrf100what does inc mean? is there a real word for it?14:54
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Veriliumpwac:  Hmm, I did put memcached behind haproxy, actually...14:54
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TMMryan-rmrf100, I think it's an abbreviation for 'including'15:00
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ryan-rmrf100Thanks TMM, I just aware that15:05
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pwacwe run everything behind haproxies, as a rule15:05
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Veriliumpwac:  Yep.  That's what I'm going for.  With all my configs pointing to my VIP that's with keepalived/haproxy.15:11
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Andrew_hi15:33
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Andrew_is it possible to run tempest remotely15:33
Andrew_?15:33
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Andrew_is it possible to run tempest remotely15:34
Andrew_???15:34
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VeriliumHmm, well, I guess this somewhat might explain the issues I'm getting with keystone/memcached:  http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-operators/2014-August/004967.html15:36
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Andrew_is it possible to run tempest remotely15:40
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pwacit is possible to run tempest remotely15:45
pwacit is possible to run tempest repmotely15:45
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_nickpwac: of course16:04
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RedcavalierHi, is there anybody running kilo with a ceph backend for glance/cinder/nova around? There's something we found on our setup that I'd like to see if it's possible to replicate.16:18
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RedcavalierBasically, on our setup, when we rename an image, then we try to provision a VM from image, the copy-on-write clone in Ceph doesn't happen.16:20
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RedcavalierThe image is then broken and no VM can be provisionned from it anymore as the copy-on-write clone will always fail.16:21
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Redcavalieror at least it doesn't happen.16:21
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CrtxReavrHow are you using ceph?16:23
CrtxReavrcephfs?16:23
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Redcavalierrbd block device16:24
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Redcavalierit's a rbd block device that store images from glance, volumes from cinder and vms from nova (those that are created as "boot from image")16:26
Redcavalierrbd block storage device*16:27
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v1k0d3nhey guys, need some direction...asked #rdo...but those guys are really hush hush.18:23
v1k0d3ni'm running an rdo instance (all in one)...18:23
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v1k0d3nso that being the case, if i want to use glance for docker images...do i also need to install the docker packages on the single server or is it included with any of the openstack packages as part of glance image turnup?18:24
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v1k0d3n(sorry the last part prb sounds strange)18:24
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lothv1k0d3n: usually your storage backend is up to the operator to install18:40
v1k0d3nty for the reply18:41
v1k0d3nso in RDO it's all single instance (or at least in mine...for now).18:41
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v1k0d3ni guess just install the docker packages on it, and then i can add more later using swarm ?18:42
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lothNot familar with that18:43
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lothhttps://ask.openstack.org/en/question/42637/how-do-i-store-docker-images-on-glance/18:45
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lothSam-I-Am: You around?18:46
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diogogmtdoes openstack juno has high availability built in for the compute nodes?19:33
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dgbaleyHey. What does it take for live-migration to be supported between two nodes? I would have thought it's just dest node's instruction set being a superset of the source, but it looks like they need to have the same topology too?19:38
dgbaleyWhat about clock rate, does that matter?19:38
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Meowserdoes anyone know if there is an openstack docker container?19:46
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Sam-I-Amloth: sort of19:55
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lothMeowser: https://github.com/stackforge/kolla19:58
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dgbaleySam-I-Am: oh good, you're here. Do you know the answer about live-mig compatibility? I'm trying to make a new purchase and don't know if it's worth matching some existing hardware19:58
lothSam-I-Am: I noticed in the security guide its important to delete the admin token from the keystone config. Any peticular reason this isnt built into os-ansible-deployment that you know of?19:58
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Sam-I-Amloth: well, deleting it from the config file doesn't work. it just sets it to blank. you have to remove it from the pipeline in keystone-paste.ini, which i think osad does but cant remember for sure.20:00
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Sam-I-Amdgbaley: i'm not too familiar with live migration... its not a particularly cloudy thing.20:01
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dgbaleyHow do you figure? It's extremely "cloudy"20:01
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dgbaleyHow else do you manage your infrastructure? Just let hypervisors go unpatched?20:02
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dgbaleyI'll try asking in libvirt20:02
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Sam-I-Amdgbaley: cloudy servers can come and go and nothing should notice20:03
Sam-I-Amof course, it assumes that your app is written correctly20:03
Sam-I-Amlive migration is a value-add for leegacy apps using conventional virtualization like vmware20:04
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dgbaleyNot everything is an "app". I have professors launching course websites and grading systems. 1 vm, 1 use, avoid downtime20:06
visualneHello, I have a glance image that no longer exists in ceph. Yet the dashboard and database still show it as an active image. How can I go about deleting this image from the database? Anybody know?20:06
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dgbaleyWe also have moodle running in OpenStack, and student's create VMs to do course work20:06
Sam-I-Amdgbaley: have two vms with a load balancer, no one knows when one goes down :)20:06
Sam-I-Amcloudy apps are designed to be stateless (like rest apis)20:07
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dgbaleyThat's not practical all of the time. Especially for something like a Linux box that a student is using to SSH into because they don't run linux but need to complete an assignment in a stnadard environment -- you can't load balance an SSH session like that20:09
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Sam-I-Amtheres a few exceptions20:09
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JTenHello, I can't find any info on the site, I was wondering if openstack can take passwords in the form of md5sums ?20:26
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dbsplHow would Keystone decrypt them?  It can store sensitive data in many forms:  https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Security/Icehouse/Keystone20:29
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dbsplKeystone can also refer to another Auth system, ex: Active Directory20:30
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morganfainbergJTen: keystone uses passlib and does standard password processing20:31
morganfainbergJTen: we do not accept pre-hashed passwords in the directly managed data store.20:31
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morganfainbergJTen: if you use LDAP/AD, we rely on those systems to manage the hashing (usually because users access is read-only, not managed by keystone directly)20:32
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JTenAh. Okay. So plaintext is the only way to authenticate with keystone?20:33
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morganfainbergJTen: well sortof, you can have Keystone rely on an external IdP that can do SAML2 or OIDC20:34
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morganfainbergwhich case you're authenticating with the IdP, (WebSSO-like workflow) instead of passing credentials to keystone20:34
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morganfainbergbut if keystone is directly managing the identity data (SQL), or directly querying LDAP/AD - it needs the plain-text password (to do a passlib rounds compare for SQL, and/or a Bind to LDAP/AD)20:35
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JTenmorganfainberg: okay thanks for the support. I'll just use plaintext. I was just hoping there was another way since I'm authenticating and interfacing with openstack programmatically.20:37
morganfainbergJTen: in the future (Liberty) we should also support x509 client cert auth - and i *think* you can do krb5 today (kilo) - but i haven't tried that20:37
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terjehi. In OS Juno, I'm deploying a guest network. I'm looking in the network namespace on the neutron server and I see the DHCP server's IP.21:28
terjefrom that network namespace, I can ping my guest VM21:29
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terjehowever, I don't see a gateway interface in that namespace.21:29
terjeWhere's the gw interface deployed? I figured it would be right next to the DHCP interface.21:29
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terje(I specifically configured a gw interface when I created the subnet)21:30
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Sam-I-Amterje: the gateway interface lives in the qrouter namespace21:31
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MentalRayhey hey hey Sam-I-Am21:32
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MentalRaybeen a while21:32
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terjeoh yea21:32
terjethanks21:32
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Sam-I-AmMentalRay: hey there21:33
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SaintAardvarkHi folks -- I'm running Kilo, and I'm wondering if there's a quick way with the API tools to figure out which compute node a particular instance lives on21:35
Sam-I-AmSaintAardvark: yeah, as admin you can see where things run21:36
Sam-I-Am--all-tenants or something with nova list21:36
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SaintAardvarkSam-I-Am: thanks! looks like I can do "nova list --all-tenants --fields OS-EXT-SRV-ATTR:host,name" and see what I'm after21:39
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dgbaleynova list --all --fields host21:39
dgbaleyThe fact that you can't add a -h or --help to the end of the python clients is such a pain21:41
knighthawknova help list21:41
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VeriliumHmm, was wondering how to get that info earlier...21:42
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VeriliumEnded up just finding nova-manage vm list.21:42
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Sam-I-Amyeah, nova-manage is a bit of a hack21:42
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dgbaleyI know, but that style of getting help output (caused by python argparse I think) is cumbersome21:43
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dgbaleyIt's really convenient to be able to add a -h halfway through a command, or after it failed21:43
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dgbaleyNot only do you have to type help back near the start of the line, it can't have anything more than the command name21:43
dgbaleyIt gets to be a lot of extra typing and making the history output messier21:44
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dgbaleyEnd of rant, sorry, but that's been brewing for a while21:44
VeriliumAh, nova help list.  Kept wondering how to get more help on 'list', ugh.21:44
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Sam-I-Amdgbaley: contributions welcome :)21:44
dgbaley^-- exactly my point21:44
dgbaleydamnit21:44
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dgbaleyAt this point it's only worth fixing in python-openstackclient, but I'm still using the project-specific ones for the most part21:46
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Sam-I-Ampython-openstack client has a long way to go, imho21:53
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VeriliumI suppose the openstack cli, ultimately, is the end goal?  The one cli to do it all?22:10
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Sam-I-Amyeah thats the plan22:10
Sam-I-Amexcept it sucks for a lot of things still22:11
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Sam-I-Amits just a wrapper for the other clients22:11
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VeriliumAhhh...  Didn't realize it was just a wrapper.22:12
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VeriliumWell, all in time, I suppose.22:12
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dbsplfrom nova-compute.log:  “Timed out waiting for a reply to message ID” - could this be caused by the compute node’s clock being off by <50 seconds?? Or should I be looking at rabbitmq settings related to networking?23:39
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dbsplI suspect networking because I also see this: “An error occurred while refreshing the network cache.”23:39
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dbsplI definately see the compute node sendings messages to rabbitmq:  accepting AMQP connection <0.11957.0> (10.10.10.5323:45
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AlakeHi, I am looking to get into open stack. Any suggestions on hardware I need to set a budget home lab?23:47
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AlakeAnyone here?23:48
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imthewhe`Alake:  have you looked into devstack ?23:58
imthewhe`Or are you looking to get the full experience with multiple pieces of hardware.23:58
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