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supayhey, is anybody online?02:15
larsksNope.02:18
larsksWell, maybe.02:18
supayhaha02:18
supayi was wondering if its possible to authenticate a user to keystone using username and password combination?02:18
supayrackspace documentation sucks.02:18
supay(for php-opencloud)02:18
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noyeis there a way to do HA without doint the VIP as outlined here: http://docs.openstack.org/high-availability-guide/content/s-keystone.html ?02:23
larskssupay: I don't understand your question; one always has to authenticate to keystone using a username/password combination.  Am I not following the question correctly?02:28
larsksnoye: what sort of alternative are you looking for?02:29
noyelarsks: any02:30
noyelol02:30
larsksOr I guess, what about that solution doesn't work for you?02:30
noyei don’t have access to setup a vip02:30
larsksI guess I don't understand enough about your environment and limitations to help out.  Typically you will need to provide some sort of virtual ip for your HA services, but you can choose to use pacemaker or keepalived (or something else, I guess) to manage it.02:32
noyelarsks: can you point me to some documentation on how that’s done ?02:33
larsksWhich? For pacemaker, the instructions are in the document to which you've linked.02:33
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larsksHere's some food for thought: https://www.rdoproject.org/Load_Balance_OpenStack_API02:34
larsksThat uses haproxy + keepalived for ha02:34
noyeok02:34
noyesweet02:34
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noyelarsks: even that url points toward using vip’s02:38
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larsksYes, that's what I said ("Typically you will need to provide some sort of virtual ip for your HA services, but you can choose to use pacemaker or keepalived (or something else, I guess) to manage it."02:41
larsks"It" being "the vip"02:41
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Jabadiatrying here as openstack-nova is too silent ..05:27
JabadiaAssuming I have 10 Computes. 10 VM on Each. now i need to replace compute #10 for some reason ( maintenance ) or it have some problem.05:27
JabadiaEvacuate is not perfect for the job, as it will place all 10 VM's on single compute which will be unbalanced scenario05:28
Jabadiaquestion is , am I missing something, or, evacuate need to be enhanced so that it will use scheduler for each VM migration, and not select single compute/host for all05:28
JabadiaI will be glad to implement, I just want to make sure it's not a waste of time ( if there's a different way doing it already )05:28
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openstack_carlhello every08:22
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openstack_carli have a puestion for neutorn08:24
openstack_carlevery here?08:24
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jeroenvhyou can just ask your question, and people will reply if they have time. This can take a couple of hours.08:29
openstack_carlthank you08:30
nunneI need to move my instances from one openstack to another openstack installation. I have looked into the mysql-database of nova, glance and so on. And moving the tables shouldn't be a big problem. But the nova.instance_actions +action_events, _faults and also nova.instance_info_cahces.. are they necessary? They mostly seem to contain loggs of all the actions08:30
nunnemade on instances (and I don't need that to be transfered).08:30
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openstack_carlI`m install openstack kilo version.But at me creat a new machin in openstack  the neutron can`t connection.08:35
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sankethello all,anyone working on Tempest?09:49
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loloanyone managed to get ironic to play on centos6 ?12:31
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loloi have already a 3node stack on centos6 which i would like to add ironic into it12:32
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UlrarSo to install openstack I need two network adapters minimum ? One public and one internal ?13:27
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larsksUlrar: Well, it depends on what you're trying to do.  You can perform an all-in-install of openstack on a single host with a single network interface if you're just looking to test things out.13:31
larskserr, "all-in-one install"13:31
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capitol:D The all-in install, when you have nothing left ot loose13:32
Ulrarlarsks: Did try that at some point, lost access to my host when I added the physical interface to the bridge :)13:32
larsks:)13:32
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larsksUlrar: It's best to make sure you have some out-of-band means of access if you're mucking about with networking remotely.13:32
larsksIt's certinaly possible to do that remotely; but you need to make sure you get all your commands correct and then stick them in a script.13:33
larsksMuch easier and less headache inducing to have console access or something.13:33
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larsksYou can also skip that step if your goal is just experimentation and you don't need inbound access to your instances.13:33
UlrarWell for now it is, but the conditions will be the same for production13:34
Ulrarwe're thinking of deploying OpenStack on OVH servers13:34
UlrarGoogled a bit, seems hard13:34
larsksYeah, I'm not familiar with OVH, but I think a few people have mentioned limitations w/r/t networking in that environment.13:34
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UlrarYeah, only two adapters, gateways between the hosts filtreing macs .. People are saying it's doable, but you have to use so many tricks :(13:36
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nunneexporting my install to a new installation by copying instances file and data (not whole database/tables because some things differ). But do i need for example nova.reservations? or will these "sync" up to the correct value automatically? (same goes for the cache, instance_actions etc. Would be nice not having to go through those :)14:22
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mtl1Hi. I'm trying to make Fedora available on my stack. For it to work, I need cloud-init to output a few things to the log that openstack sees during bootup instead of or in addition to the journal log.  Anyone have any ideas of how that might be done?  The #cloud-config commands I'm using are working, I just need the output from them. With Ubuntu and CentOS, that all happens out of the box. Thanks.14:25
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bleepbloopIs it possible to assign a public ip to the ceph radosgw, I have a segmented network with a private and public nic on each machine and the ceph radosgw is ending up with a private one, I am using juju14:37
manoushello14:37
manousi want to autheticate from outside14:37
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bleepbloopmanous: you will need to forward traffic on port 80 to your private openstack ip14:40
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dtalmageI'm looking for recommendations for openstack cm. How do you all feel about puppet vs. chef vs. ansible?14:44
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manousi am already make it14:48
arif-alihi, we are migrating our Juno installation from keystone v2 to v3, we are on the last hurdle (we think) wrt policy.json file, where we get the following error message14:48
arif-aliERROR: openstack You are not authorized to perform the requested action: identity:list_users (HTTP 403)14:48
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arif-alianyone have any clues where to look on getting this to work?14:48
manousi have Authorization failed. The request you have made requires authentication. from 172.16.10.114:49
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manousin controller14:49
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drawsmcgrawdtalmage: I'm running Saltstack in my environment and it's working out really well14:53
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drawsmcgrawThat being said, I think *any* CM platform will work great for openstack. You have any current favorites?14:53
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drawsmcgrawAnyone else -> Is there some config value for to tell Nova to rename my instances to be the friendly name?14:54
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dtalmageI have working puppet scripts.  They were given to me.  I'm looking for something more standard in the openstack community.14:54
dtalmageI could work with puppet-openstack.14:54
drawsmcgrawi.e. a "nova boot <parameters> my-super-good-vm" would cause the instance's hostname to be 'my-super-good-vm'14:54
dtalmageI've seen chef and have just read about ansible.14:54
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drawsmcgrawWe do a lot of other things with Salt, which is why we went that route.14:55
dtalmagedrawsmcraw: how did you choose Saltstack?14:55
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bleepbloopdtaImage: I've been using juju for deployment, its not been that bad, was a bit rough at first, it really depends on which os you are deploying for tho14:55
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drawsmcgrawdtalmage: Been using it for a couple years. Actually, I was using Salt before we spun up Openstack.14:55
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dtalmagebleepbloop: is juju only for Ubuntu? I'm constrained to use RHEL14:56
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drawsmcgrawI had that question, too. I've seen Juju in action an I'm impressed but I thought it was only Ubuntu distros as well14:56
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drawsmcgrawdtalmage: We started out with RDO and deployment via Packstack14:56
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drawsmcgrawWe still stay with RDO, but we've transitioned the Packstack stuff onto Salt14:56
drawsmcgrawIf you're just getting started, I'd highly recommend Packstack and RDO. It's a crutch I'm not ashamed to say I used.14:57
bleepbloopdtaImage: I think juju supports other OS's but honestly I don't feel that its stable enough on Ubuntu, I don't know I'd trust it to work, packstack seems to be the recommended way for RHEL, I would go that way14:57
dtalmageHow well do these solutions scale?  My client has hundreds of servers.14:57
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drawsmcgrawSalt scales very well.14:59
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drawsmcgrawRDO.... if you're talking hundreds of servers, you may want to just pick a CM platform and get to work.14:59
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drawsmcgrawI'm not sure I'd use Packstack on something that big because I'd want to know *exactly* what's going on.14:59
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dtalmageThank you drawsmcgraw and bleepbloop for your suggestions.15:02
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drawsmcgrawdtalmage: Sure thing! If you decide to go the Salt route feel free to ping me or jump into the #salt channel. They're a lively bunch.15:03
dtalmageI'll do that!15:03
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drawsmcgrawdtalmage: One last note, looks like Cloudbase has their Openstack Salt states on Github: https://github.com/cloudbase/salt-openstack15:05
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drawsmcgrawI've never used them before but, hey, it's Cloudbase15:06
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dtalmageSo may to choose from: juju charms, puppet-openstack, saltstack, ansible, chef.15:07
dtalmage^may^many^15:07
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Skulleyarif-ali: we're working through that very thing right now, sounds like you are one step in front of us15:18
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RedcavalierI just reported a bug regarding ceph and nova in Kilo. It's kind of major.15:34
Redcavalierhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/146757015:35
openstackLaunchpad bug 1467570 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Nova can't provision instance from snapshot with a ceph backend" [Undecided,New]15:35
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SamYapleRedcavalier: the issues with a snapshot not being a CoW clone is known. I beleive there are a few patches floating around for it15:50
SamYapleI want to say Mirantis is maintaining one, but ill ahve to check15:50
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SamYapleim trying to replicate the otehr behaviour you are seeing now15:51
Redcavalierare you sure you're not talking about the issue in icehouse that was fixed in Juno?15:51
SamYapleno snapshots still dont work CoW15:51
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SamYapleglance -> ephermal nova was merged in juno15:51
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RedcavalierSamYaple, so what'S the regular behavior right now? When I provision from scratch, I see a rbd clone appearing in the nova pool15:54
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Redcavaliera rbd clone of an image snapshot that'S in my image pool, I should specify15:55
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SamYapleRedcavalier: that is correct behaviour. but a `nova image-create` snapshot still does not get created CoW15:55
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Redcavalieraaaaaaaaaaaah15:55
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SamYapleit is created with the qemu-ing raw convert command15:55
Redcavalierok and then uploaded into glance as an image15:56
SamYapleyes15:56
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SamYapleI want to say there is a patch out there for this but I am not finding it at the moment15:56
Redcavalieroh cool, it would be a nice bonus if I could patch it, but I doubt it would fix the current bug I found15:57
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RedcavalierSince the current problem is litteraly that nova can't find the block device inside its pool as it's mysteriously not created.15:58
SamYapleyea im not able to replicate that bug at the moment15:58
RedcavalierOh ok15:58
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Redcavalierthat'S interesting15:58
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RedcavalierI mean it could always be an issue in my configuration, but I'm pretty much stumped as to the possible cause15:58
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RedcavalierWould it be possible to see a copy of your nova config so I could compare?16:00
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SamYapleRedcavalier: https://github.com/SamYaple/yaodu/blob/master/ansible/roles/nova/templates/nova.conf.j216:02
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RedcavalierSamYaple, thx16:02
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SamYapleRedcavalier: (spec here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/188244/)16:13
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SamYapleRedcavalier: (the code for nova: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125963/)16:13
SamYaplea friend pointed me at those16:14
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SamYaplethat is the patch i rememebr16:14
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RedcavalierSamYaple, Thx, I'll discuss with my team and try to add this16:15
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heat_user_In OS::Heat::AutoScalingGroup, is min_size the initial amount of instances that will be deployed ?16:15
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RedcavalierSamYaple, regarding the nova config, we have very similar config, right down to vif_plugging_is_fatal = False, which I find funny since I did not base myself for my own ansible nova config. This makes me think the issue may be related to ceph. Maybe it could be the permissions for ceph users16:17
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SamYapleRedcavalier: I have vif_plugging_is_fatal commented out16:19
Redcavalieryea me too16:19
SamYapleits only useful if you have misconfigured your environment (or using linuxbridge i think)16:19
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Redcavalierthat's why I find it funny16:19
SamYapleah16:19
Redcavalieryea I had the misconfiguration problem last week16:20
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Redcavalierwhich we fixed since16:20
SamYapleI actually have an updated config to use the new kilo options, i just have templated it yet16:20
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Redcavalierah I see. Did your setup you tested on use the templated version or the new version one with the new kilo features?16:21
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ygkHi16:25
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ygki have a question abt neutron16:26
ygkcan anyone help me16:26
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ygkif I list neutron port-list16:26
SamYapleRedcavalier: the "new" kilo features are just changing deprecated options, they wouldnt affect ceph. but ill post that config too, give me a moment16:26
ygkwhat ports are they16:26
ygkare they switch ports16:27
ygkor anything else16:27
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ygkany idea16:28
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ygkcan anyone answer my question abt neutron16:32
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ygkwhen I list neutron port-list, it shows some ports with ip addresses and mac addresses16:34
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ygkwhat ports are they . are they switch ports or anything else ?16:35
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ygkcan anyone answer my question16:43
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ygkHi All17:07
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ygki have a question abt neutron17:08
ygkcan someone help me17:08
gchristensenHi, my application runs on AWS. We're now looking to make it OpenStack compatible so customers can take it on-prem. How much difference can I expect between customerA and customerB's OpenStack installs? is it appropriate to test against say Rackspace's public cloud openstack system, or would it be more likely to match a customer if we ran our own internal, small cluster?17:08
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zobelhi.17:25
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zobeli try to sign the CLA, but get "Code Review - Error \nServer Error \nCannot store contact information".17:26
zobelany idea?17:26
zobelhttps://review.openstack.org/#/settings/new-agreement17:26
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RiveraCan someone help troubleshoot a metadata issue in a 3 node setup?18:42
arif-aliSkulley, how far have you got with your migration? and have you seen the same problem?18:44
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Skulleyarif-ali:  Maybe :)  We seem to have something that works but we're not sure we fully understand it.  What did you get the 403s in response to?18:49
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arif-aliSkulley, it was more to do with the policy.json issue, when we use the original v2 policy.json, all things are working, but when we use the sample one for v3, and add the domain_id, we have the issues19:01
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Skulleyare you using the v3 patched policy?19:08
Skulley*patched sample policy19:08
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Skulleywe leaned heavily on this blog:  http://www.florentflament.com/blog/setting-keystone-v3-domains.html and it references https://review.openstack.org/#/c/65510/19:11
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arif-aliSkulley, thanks, I will look at the new v3 policy.json19:32
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RiveraCan someone help why my instances can't reach metadata?19:36
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einarrgchristensen: someone else may probably provida a fuller answer, but there several things that will vary.  openstack is under heavy development, so the APIs sometimes changes (see http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref.html ). also, many services are not mandatory, so you need to decide on what your application should require from the cloud (e.g. block storage, load balancing, DNS)19:43
einarrgchristensen: however, testing on the rackspace cluster will most likely be a very good start.19:44
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championofcyrodihey guys.  trying to use the BlockDeviceDriver with my already working ceph configuration.  But when i restart the cinder volume service, i end up getting an exception while running command: /etc/cinder/rootwrap.conf blockdev --getsz /dev/sde1 stderr: No such file or directory.20:18
championofcyrodiwhich sort of makes sense because this is running on the 'controller' rather than the compute node.20:18
championofcyrodibut the device is on the compute node20:18
championofcyrodiwhich i have added to a new availability zone20:18
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championofcyrodicinder.conf : http://paste.openstack.org/show/HHU8HPsvH1xRtKYbCeam/20:19
championofcyrodibasically trying to run 2 enabled backends... ceph and back device20:20
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gchristenseneinarr: thank you21:28
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jlombardoBeen working on this one for a while. When I try to go to Resource Usage in Horizon, I get a 404NotFound at /admin/metering. Stranger, if I run ceilometer sample-list (or any other command) it will fail with a 404 but not every time. Is this 404 related to endpoints or something else? This is a 3 controller cluster with HAProxy for the API endpoints.21:31
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Veriliumloth:  Thanks for the tips on DVR and such.  Seems to be working out pretty nicely up to now.21:32
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lothno problem21:56
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prometheanfireI'm making the gentoo image of openstack and have it about done (interface adding works better then in ubuntu now for instance).22:40
prometheanfirethe question I had was if the disk should be resized on first boot or not?22:40
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MrHeavyI'm having an issue where nova-network (Kilo) sometimes doesn't assign the instance's IP address to the host's bridge interface. I already have debug logging enabled and I'm not seeing anything useful. Where can I start troubleshooting this?22:58
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MrHeavyIn particular, it seems to not be getting assigned correctly if that specific IP has been recently assigned to another host23:04
MrHeavyBut I can add it manually via iproute2 with no issue23:04
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