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| lj1102 | i'm trying to manually bootstrap juju hoping openstack-install will be like "bootstrapping juju, oh its already bootstrapped, go ahead" | 00:03 |
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| cn28h | Sam-I-Am: looks like somebody is writing a patch that may fix it :) https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/open-iscsi/vWbi_LTMEeM | 00:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | huh | 00:05 |
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| crossbeau | lj I am saying follow the Openstack install and actually build it instead of doing openstack-install | 00:11 |
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| tshibata | ./nick shibata | 00:14 |
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| lj1102 | crossbeau thanks I see what you meant now, do you know of any "private cloud" solutions other than openstack, cloudstack and eucalyptus that are ... simpler ? I just wanted to run a few VMs not build some ultra extendable, super secure and abstracted cloudcluster... :| ? | 00:29 |
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| crossbeau | well what functions do you need ? | 00:29 |
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| crossbeau | are you just looking for somewhere to put vms? | 00:31 |
| lj1102 | well actually just some VMs that hook into my local network, I'll do the rest via installed software maybe some kind of S3 mockup but i could spin that up on my own. | 00:31 |
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| crossbeau | Why not just a simple hypervisor like ESXi? | 00:32 |
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| crossbeau | lj1102 why openstack vs a simplier hypervisor ? | 00:40 |
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| lj1102 | crossbeau well I wanted to become platform agnostic in regards to AWS services like S3, ElastiCache and all that stuff. So I thought it would be cool to go with openstack to enable moving the infrastructure inhouse after product launch and the initial few month. | 00:43 |
| crossbeau | so then still go Openstack | 00:44 |
| crossbeau | I am just saying just actually build it out http://docs.openstack.org/kilo/install-guide/install/apt/content/ | 00:44 |
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| crossbeau | I am doing this for a school project, and the week I wasted with Apt-get openstack-install wasn't worth it | 00:44 |
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| lj1102 | yeah I'm already reading that guide, maybe I'm just "done" with admin stuff for today :) I expected this to go way faster like 3-4 hours or something... | 00:47 |
| crossbeau | as I have read in this chat before | 00:47 |
| crossbeau | "One does not simply install openstack" | 00:47 |
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| crossbeau | and it really is the truth | 00:47 |
| crossbeau | Once you get going its pretty quick! | 00:48 |
| crossbeau | the only tricky part is neutron, and I doubt you would have as many issues as I did | 00:48 |
| crossbeau | I setup my controller on a single node with 1 NIC | 00:48 |
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| lj1102 | well sounds like what I'm planning to do, but oh well in case I could still plugin one of the other 3 NICs. | 00:49 |
| crossbeau | its totally do-able with a single node and 1 NIC | 00:50 |
| crossbeau | you just have to do some stuff with bridging | 00:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | there's no requirement for multiple nics, it just makes it easier to conceptualize and troubleshoot when it breaks | 00:50 |
| crossbeau | ^^ | 00:50 |
| crossbeau | *^ | 00:50 |
| crossbeau | truth | 00:50 |
| crossbeau | I wouldnt have had issue with that if I could have installed ESXi on my baremetal | 00:51 |
| crossbeau | I had a 32-bit dell 2850, that I could not install on | 00:51 |
| crossbeau | you can definately install a hypervisor and install OS ontop of that | 00:51 |
| lj1102 | This will be a complete battle on its own with my "awesome" network infrastructure based on a totally not properly configured OpenWRT router in combination with a lame locked down ISP provided modem router thing. | 00:52 |
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| Gerardo_ | hi again | 01:23 |
| crossbeau | yo yo | 01:23 |
| Gerardo_ | i have a runnin instance | 01:23 |
| crossbeau | Nice :) | 01:23 |
| Gerardo_ | but can't get inside | 01:23 |
| Gerardo_ | :( | 01:23 |
| crossbeau | what's the instance? | 01:24 |
| crossbeau | is it the default Cirros or something else? | 01:24 |
| Gerardo_ | Failed to connect to server (code: 1006) openstack | 01:24 |
| Gerardo_ | cirrus | 01:24 |
| Gerardo_ | is the first | 01:24 |
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| crossbeau | did you deploy with horizon or something else? | 01:24 |
| Gerardo_ | terminal | 01:24 |
| Gerardo_ | via putty but | 01:25 |
| Gerardo_ | in the horizon sims to be good | 01:25 |
| crossbeau | yeah I had that issue too still havent really fixed it | 01:25 |
| crossbeau | if I deploy by horizon it doesnt give me issue | 01:25 |
| crossbeau | But SSH to it worked fine | 01:25 |
| Gerardo_ | ok let me try | 01:26 |
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| Gerardo_ | thats great | 01:30 |
| Gerardo_ | works fine | 01:30 |
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| Gerardo_ | i have an external ip associated to the instance but i can't ping to it | 01:57 |
| Gerardo_ | any ideas? | 01:58 |
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| Sam-I-Am | is it on the same network? | 01:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | (as the thing you're pinging from) | 01:58 |
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| Gerardo_ | no, it is external | 01:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | do you have a network node? | 01:59 |
| Gerardo_ | yes | 01:59 |
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| Sam-I-Am | is there a qrouter namespace (ip netns) | 02:00 |
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| Gerardo_ | what do you mean cith that | 02:08 |
| Gerardo_ | ? | 02:08 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you should have a qrouter namespace on the network node | 02:08 |
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| Sam-I-Am | and if you do 'ip netns exec qrouter-XXXX ip a' you should see your floating ip in there | 02:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | also, did you allow icmp/ssh in the security group? | 02:08 |
| Gerardo_ | nova secgroup-add-rule default icmp -1 -1 0.0.0.0/0 | 02:09 |
| Gerardo_ | nova secgroup-add-rule default tcp 22 22 0.0.0.0/0 | 02:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah | 02:10 |
| Gerardo_ | where can i see the qrouter namespace? | 02:10 |
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| Sam-I-Am | run 'ip netns' on the network node | 02:10 |
| Gerardo_ | qdhcp-02f2dcb2-9a66-4489-9c6e-23ef091cfa64 | 02:12 |
| Gerardo_ | qrouter-eaa023b4-8abf-48b3-bd05-45ed649eb019 | 02:12 |
| Gerardo_ | i got that | 02:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | whats your floating ip? | 02:12 |
| Gerardo_ | 207.249.127.7 | 02:12 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so... 'ip netns exec qrouter-eaa023b4-8abf-48b3-bd05-45ed649eb019 ping 207.249.127.7' | 02:13 |
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| Sam-I-Am | if it works, your fip is working. | 02:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | if it doesnt, your problem is likely outside of openstack | 02:14 |
| Sam-I-Am | are you running all of this on vms? | 02:14 |
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| Gerardo_ | no | 02:14 |
| Gerardo_ | physical | 02:14 |
| Gerardo_ | that works | 02:15 |
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| Gerardo_ | but i still can't go outside | 02:19 |
| Gerardo_ | and can't see the ip from outside | 02:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | cant go outside meaning cant access the internet from the vm? | 02:20 |
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| Gerardo_ | exactly | 02:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | sounds like a routing problem outside of openstack | 02:23 |
| Sam-I-Am | did you set the gateway correct on the ext-subnet ? | 02:24 |
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| Sam-I-Am | if that doesnt exist, or is unreachable, it wont work | 02:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | bbiab, walking | 02:24 |
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| Gerardo_ | im checking that rigth now | 02:25 |
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| Gerardo_ | i update the gateway, but still without internet | 02:31 |
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| Gerardo_ | in the horizon ports i saw the state down | 02:47 |
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| Gerardo_ | how can i set thouse up | 02:47 |
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| Gerardo_ | the external network has one vlan id | 03:03 |
| Gerardo_ | how can i setup in openstack | 03:03 |
| Gerardo_ | ? | 03:03 |
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| Sam-I-Am | Gerardo_: do you use vlan tagging? | 04:07 |
| Gerardo_ | the external network that i have to use has vlan tagging | 04:08 |
| Gerardo_ | i think that could be the reason i can´t have internet | 04:08 |
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| Gerardo_ | this is the setup of the external interface | 04:10 |
| Gerardo_ | auto bond2.3133 | 04:11 |
| Gerardo_ | iface bond2.3133 inet manual | 04:11 |
| Gerardo_ | up ip link set dev $IFACE up | 04:11 |
| Gerardo_ | down ip link set dev $IFACE down | 04:11 |
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| Sam-I-Am | and you have bond2.3133 as a port on br-ex? | 04:13 |
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| Gerardo_ | yes | 04:14 |
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| Sam-I-Am | did you create a flat or vlan external network? | 04:14 |
| Gerardo_ | flat | 04:14 |
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| Sam-I-Am | do you see packets getting tagged when you tcpdump on bond2? | 04:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | that should work (although you can also configure neutron to do the tagging) | 04:16 |
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| Gerardo_ | actually i see in the horizon interface the external port down | 04:17 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yeah i'd ignore those | 04:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | there's some weirdness in openvswitch link reporting | 04:18 |
| Gerardo_ | how can i check the taggin packets tagged | 04:18 |
| Gerardo_ | ? | 04:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | tcpdump -lnpei bond2 ... then generate some traffic | 04:18 |
| Gerardo_ | this could be in te virtual machine or neutron server? | 04:19 |
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| Sam-I-Am | on whatever br-ex is on | 04:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | so, the host itself usually | 04:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | did you edit sysctl.conf to enable/disable things? | 04:20 |
| Gerardo_ | 23:19:49.660239 00:00:5e:00:01:01 > ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 64: vlan 3133, p 0, ethertype ARP, Request who-has 207.249.127.250 tell 207.249.127.2, length 46 | 04:20 |
| Gerardo_ | 23:19:49.796197 00:00:5e:00:01:01 > 01:00:5e:00:00:12, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 64: vlan 3133, p 0, ethertype IPv4, 207.249.127.251 > 224.0.0.18: VRRPv2, Advertisement, vrid 1, prio 250, authtype none, intvl 3s, length 20 | 04:20 |
| Gerardo_ | 23:19:49.860035 00:00:5e:00:01:01 > ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 64: vlan 3133, p 0, ethertype ARP, Request who-has 207.249.127.28 tell 207.249.127.2, length 46 | 04:20 |
| Gerardo_ | 23:19:50.218649 fa:16:3e:da:76:66 > ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 46: vlan 3133, p 0, ethertype ARP, Request who-has 207.249.127.254 tell 207.249.127.7, length 28 | 04:20 |
| Gerardo_ | 23:19:50.359927 00:00:5e:00:01:01 > ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 64: vlan 3133, | 04:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | are any of those your vm? | 04:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | you can filter by host too | 04:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | or ip | 04:20 |
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| Gerardo_ | all messages has the same network 207.249.127.xxx | 04:24 |
| Gerardo_ | thats my external network | 04:24 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ok | 04:25 |
| Gerardo_ | so the vlan tagging its working? | 04:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | so this time add 'host X.X.X.X' where the IP is your floating IP for the vm | 04:26 |
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| Sam-I-Am | then try pinging it | 04:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | see if you see traffic | 04:26 |
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| Gerardo_ | tcpdump -lnpei bond2 -n host 207.249.127.7 | 04:30 |
| Gerardo_ | i can't see no traffic | 04:30 |
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| Sam-I-Am | whats 127.254? | 04:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | because in your paste, i see an arp request for it | 04:31 |
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| Gerardo_ | thats empty ip | 04:33 |
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| Gerardo_ | i have 127.5 to 127.254 avaliable for openstack | 04:34 |
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| Gerardo_ | the gateway is 127.1 | 04:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | so, if you tcpdump and try to ping .7 from somewhere else, what happens? | 04:36 |
| Gerardo_ | 23:31:47.932068 00:00:5e:00:01:01 > ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 64: vlan 3133, p 0, ethertype ARP, Request who-has 207.249.127.7 tell 207.249.127.2, length 46 | 04:37 |
| Gerardo_ | 23:31:47.932351 fa:16:3e:da:76:66 > 00:00:5e:00:01:01, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 46: vlan 3133, p 0, ethertype ARP, Reply 207.249.127.7 is-at fa:16:3e:da:76:66, length 28 | 04:37 |
| Gerardo_ | 23:31:48.852185 00:00:5e:00:01:01 > ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 64: vlan 3133, p 0, ethertype ARP, Request who-has 207.249.127.7 tell 207.249.127.2, length 46 | 04:37 |
| Gerardo_ | 23:31:48.852320 fa:16:3e:da:76:66 > 00:00:5e:00:01:01, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 46: vlan 3133, p 0, ethertype ARP, Reply 207.249.127.7 is-at fa:16:3e:da:76:66, length 28 | 04:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | you're getting an arp response | 04:40 |
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| Sam-I-Am | does the rest of your network know how to get to 207.249.127/24 ? | 04:41 |
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| Gerardo_ | it suppose to be in the router | 04:43 |
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| Gerardo_ | i have a cable with that network avaliable | 04:43 |
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| Sam-I-Am | can you get directly onto that network and ping .7? | 04:44 |
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| Gerardo_ | yes but have to reconfigure network server | 04:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | pretty sure your problem is not openstack | 04:46 |
| Gerardo_ | i only have that network in that port | 04:46 |
| Gerardo_ | thats a very good news for me | 04:46 |
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| Gerardo_ | let me reconfigure the external network just to ping the gateway | 04:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | that would be another useful check - can you ping the ext-net gateay from the vm | 04:49 |
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| Gerardo_ | i check in one moment | 04:57 |
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| Gerardo_ | im rebooting the network server | 04:57 |
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| Sam-I-Am | aight, i gotta sleep | 05:01 |
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| Gerardo_ | thanks a lot | 05:04 |
| Gerardo_ | bye | 05:05 |
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| thetrav | I'm playing around with an openstack and haproxy, I want to debug my services, however I'm getting tons of noise from the heartbeat http traffic. Does the logging config have a way to turn off / down that specific log pattern? | 05:31 |
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| codebauss | SamYaple: you around? | 05:45 |
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| codebauss | i want to enable debug level logging in nova.conf, specifically for nova-scheduler.log | 05:46 |
| codebauss | anyone know if i will have to restart the scheduler? | 05:46 |
| codebauss | if so, will it affect anything adversely? | 05:47 |
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| histrio | Hello, everyone! | 06:18 |
| histrio | Recently, I've got version conflict (I think) in devstack installation https://bpaste.net/show/d98d6ff80199 | 06:19 |
| histrio | devstack - stable/kilo | 06:19 |
| histrio | keystone - stable/kilo | 06:19 |
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| SamYaple | codebauss: yes but i think i might be the wrong sam.... | 06:20 |
| SamYaple | codebauss: you will have to restart the nova-scheduler, but youll be fine | 06:21 |
| codebauss | nah brah | 06:21 |
| codebauss | you the right same :D | 06:21 |
| codebauss | Sam | 06:21 |
| SamYaple | whats up! | 06:23 |
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| histrio | Can I manipulate installation order for devstack's components? | 06:44 |
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| histrio | ... with local.conf | 06:44 |
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| leigh507 | Anybody in here still using keystone 2012.1 (essex)? | 07:21 |
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| delta440_ | Hey guys, I don't normally turn to the community like this but I've been stuck for a couple weeks... I set up openstack kilo on a single ubuntu machine mainly based on this guide https://fosskb.wordpress.com/2015/04/18/installing-openstack-kilo-on-ubuntu-15-04-single-machine-setup/ problem is when I create a machine with a key set up on horizon when I try to ssh I get permission denied (public key) everythime | 07:23 |
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| delta440_ | I can tell it's connecting to the machine because if I terminate it and create a new machine with the same floating ip I get a host key error when I try to connect | 07:24 |
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| frickler | delta440_: what image are you using for your instance? the typical cloud images have different default users. | 07:57 |
| frickler | you might also want to test with cirros which has a pw based login | 07:57 |
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| delta440_ | frickler: I'll try the cirros image, right now I'm using a ubuntu 14.04 cloud image, for which I'm using ubuntu for a username | 08:15 |
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| delta440_ | frickler: I tried cirros but in addition to permission denied (publickey) it said 'Permission denied, please try again.' for the default password | 08:46 |
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| delta440_ | frickler: Actually sorry, I just had the default password wrong, it did work, but the key I added to it still didn't work | 08:51 |
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| sid__ | hi all | 09:44 |
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| sid__ | I am having trouble using the REST api | 09:44 |
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| sid__ | I can authenticate to the API and get X-Auth-Token | 09:46 |
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| sid__ | but I am unable to do anything else | 09:46 |
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| sid__ | how do I use the token to make further requests | 09:47 |
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| clays116 | hello, who can help me? | 10:34 |
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| clays116 | anybody ? | 10:35 |
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| clays116 | who can help me? when i try create instance i see error: There was an error submitting the form. Please try again | 10:36 |
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| clays116 | anybody is here? | 10:37 |
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| clays116 | who can help me? who can help me? when i try create instance i see error: There was an error submitting the form. Please try again | 10:42 |
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| clays116 | who can help me? when i try create instance i see error: There was an error submitting the form. Please try again | 10:44 |
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| clays116 | who can help me? when i try create instance i see error: There was an error submitting the form. Please try again | 10:46 |
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| manous | hello | 10:51 |
| clays116 | who can help me? when i try create instance i see error: There was an error submitting the form. Please try again | 10:52 |
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| manous | hello how can i solved this issue http://paste.openstack.org/show/335332/ | 10:57 |
| einarr | manous: not sure, but I'd first check that the instance actually gets a working network. can it reach anything else? can it reach the metadata server later on, when the instance is fully up? | 11:00 |
| clays116 | einarr maybe u can help me ? | 11:00 |
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| manous | no i cant | 11:01 |
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| manous | i use keypair to build instance | 11:01 |
| manous | but i can't log in with that | 11:02 |
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| einarr | check that the secgroup allows access to/from the instance. have you got other instances working? i'd try using the vnc console to test. | 11:03 |
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| manous | i can log with user/pass | 11:03 |
| manous | but can't with keypair | 11:04 |
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| manous | centos instances in OpenStack can't import public SSH key | 11:04 |
| einarr | ok, so the cloud-init injection didn't work. | 11:04 |
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| einarr | but something else is also not working, if you cannot reach the metadata server. | 11:05 |
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| einarr | so check the network settings on the instance. | 11:05 |
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| manous | ok | 11:06 |
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| clays116 | who can help me? when i try create instance i see error: There was an error submitting the form. Please try again | 11:07 |
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| manous | i try to rebuild my centos images | 11:10 |
| manous | another question is for / in my images | 11:10 |
| manous | when i install my images on 2GB | 11:10 |
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| manous | and i use m1.small flavor , how can i install on 20GB ? | 11:11 |
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| manous | because even if i use m1.small my system is always 2GB on system | 11:12 |
| rmanos192927374 | hi !! I have a new fake driver for a hypervisor in the nova/virt folder . How do I configure nova.conf to recognize it ? | 11:12 |
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| n1colas | o/ | 11:44 |
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| g4njawizard | hi ho fellas. has anyone tested magnum yet? is there a userguide for small tests like orchestrating container and kubernetes? | 11:56 |
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| sprakash | ping openstack ^^ | 12:14 |
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| clayss | who can help me? when i try create instance i see error: There was an error submitting the form. Please try again | 12:52 |
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| Ram_ | Hi..I have setup openstack in 3 VMs, controller, compute and neutron on Ubuntu14.04 with openstack Kilo but instances are not getting ip assigned into them | 12:54 |
| Ram_ | Can anyone suggest? | 12:54 |
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| Ram_ | Hi..I have setup openstack in 3 VMs, controller, compute and neutron on Ubuntu14.04 with openstack Kilo but instances are not getting ip assigned into them | 13:10 |
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| snake | hi | 13:17 |
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| snake | i have a proble when i launch a istance error 404 ressources not found and network.log network not defined | 13:17 |
| snake | i am woekin openstack juno centos 7 plzzz help | 13:18 |
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| clayss | who can help me? when i try create instance i see error: There was an error submitting the form. Please try again | 13:20 |
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| clayss | who can help me? when i try create instance i see error: There was an error submitting the form. Please try again | 13:25 |
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| clayss | who can help me? when i try create instance i see error: There was an error submitting the form. Please try again | 13:34 |
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| pwac | Why/when should I use proprietary SDN controller instead of Neutron/ml2/OpenvSwitch? It looks like SDN vendors try to force everyone into thinking that as soon you go above 10 nodes, you needto replace openvswitch, or bad things will happen. But there are many deployments out there succesfully running openvswitch with thousands of VMs. What gives? | 13:47 |
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| Sam-I-Am | pwac: you can also run linuxbridge instead of openvswitch | 13:49 |
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| Sam-I-Am | either one works for more than 10 nodes with a reasonable number of networks. its more the network number that may cause scaling problems. | 13:49 |
| pwac | Sam-I-Am: yeah, true, but that's still standard OpenStack stuff. | 13:49 |
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| pwac | Sam-I-Am: ok, then I go with vxlans and i can go as high as several million networks, should be enough. So why would I need a proprietary SDN solution? | 13:49 |
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| Sam-I-Am | its not vxlan that breaks after a while | 13:50 |
| pwac | what is? | 13:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | its that conventional neutron isnt particularly efficient | 13:50 |
| pwac | efficient at what exactly? | 13:51 |
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| Sam-I-Am | there's also other things, like right now iptables sort of has to be rewritten every time, so if you have a lot of secgroup rules and a lot of vms, that gets slow | 13:51 |
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| pwac | ok, but iptables are a problem of a single compute host. As long as you dont oversubsrive compute hosts you should be good (i would think) | 13:52 |
| pwac | yes, neutron is slow when e.g. rescheduling traditional routers | 13:52 |
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| pwac | but if I go with DVR, or HA routers, that problem also disappears | 13:52 |
| jkugel | hi, is anyone familiar with enabling scsi passthrough when using KVM hypervisors? I'd like to give our guest VMs access to raw scsi devices on the compute node. I'm using openstack kilo | 13:52 |
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| pwac | api endpoint being slow? throw in more neutron-server nodes | 13:52 |
| pwac | so that can also be scales | 13:53 |
| pwac | scaled* | 13:53 |
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| pwac | so, again, what are actual other bottlenecks which can be addressed by going with a payed/proprietary SDN solution over ovs/lb | 13:53 |
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| Sam-I-Am | pwac: you get official support | 13:54 |
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| Sam-I-Am | and sometimes that is worth the money when it breaks | 13:54 |
| pwac | true, that's a good point. But on the other hand you lock yourself in with that vendow | 13:54 |
| pwac | true, that's a good point. But on the other hand you lock yourself in with that vendor | 13:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | also, neutron isnt particuarly hot with metrics either | 13:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'm sort of a neutral party here :) | 13:55 |
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| pwac | sure, it's good to hear such opionions, I just want to get an overall feel of this topic :-) | 13:55 |
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| pwac | metrics -- we sample those ourselves directly from hypervisors, so we dont really need an SDN for that (though that's a good point also) | 13:56 |
| pwac | anything else worth mentioning? | 13:56 |
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| Sam-I-Am | general snmp-like control/observation of virtual networks | 13:57 |
| pwac | could you elaborate on this? | 13:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | in other words, they integrate better with physical infrastructure from that single-pane-of-glass buzzword everyone wants | 13:57 |
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| pwac | mmm, ok | 13:59 |
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| Sam-I-Am | there's also just companies that have used juniper stuff for years and want to continue using juniper stuff | 14:00 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so if they offer a sdn thing, buy | 14:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | theres lots of non-technical reasons for these decisions | 14:01 |
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| Sam-I-Am | sometimes stupidity and stay-the-course overrides valid technical reasons | 14:01 |
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| pwac | yeah, I think i have to agree with this | 14:02 |
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| pwac | do you have any experience of your own with OpenStack SDN solutions? | 14:03 |
| pwac | or did you maybe hear about which ones are actually more than "paperware" and work in practice? | 14:03 |
| pwac | or did you maybe hear about which ones are actually more than "paperware" and actually work in practice? | 14:04 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i think a lot of them are paperware still | 14:04 |
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| Sam-I-Am | or they work in specific cases | 14:04 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i'd say plumgrid might be pretty close to working | 14:06 |
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| pwac | mm ok | 14:06 |
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| leigh507 | hi all, ahs anyone seen this before when running keystone inside an apache container?? raise ArgsAlreadyParsedError("cannot register CLI option") | 14:51 |
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| jskinner | I know keystone is shared between regions, but do separate regions share message bus and databases for the separate OS projects (e.g. Nova)? | 15:08 |
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| jskinner | Or does each region have it's own message bus and database backends | 15:08 |
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| Sam-I-Am | they usually share the same db, but its replicated | 15:10 |
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| coredump | why would the dashboard be getting a The resource could not be found. (404) when an user tries to change their own password ? | 15:13 |
| ndru | I'm noticing my controller is spawning a significant amount of more processes for each of the services running on it. I upgraded the CPUs in my controller, which changed the amount of cores from 2 to 8. The load averages used to rarely be above ~0.5, now it's almost always ~1. Could these be related somehow? | 15:13 |
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| coredump | https://gist.github.com/coredump/eaa48cbfbfd40fc99822 | 15:15 |
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| coredump | ^ this is the error | 15:15 |
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| ndru | For instance, these nova-api processes... http://hastebin.com/pozuyeliqo.mel The logs aren't moving at all, yet the processes are constantly consuming CPU. | 15:16 |
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| slberger | Has anyone ran into problems changing passwords in keystone with an ldap backend? | 15:55 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i wouldnt use keystone to write ldap | 15:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | but thats just me | 15:56 |
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| slberger | im not sure what you mean by use keystone to write ldap | 16:04 |
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| Sam-I-Am | when you change a password, you're updating ldap | 16:04 |
| slberger | oh sorry I read your original post wrong | 16:05 |
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| acro458 | Stupid questions incoming | 17:02 |
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| acro458 | Company uses free version of vsphere hypervisor | 17:03 |
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| acro458 | Need free "something" that can manage VMs like vCenter. Also want live migration and fault tolerance | 17:04 |
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| acro458 | Where do I begin... | 17:04 |
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| maishsk_afk | acro458: not with OpenStack | 17:05 |
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| acro458 | Where do you guys learn about these technologies | 17:06 |
| acro458 | They are incredibly confusing | 17:06 |
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| maishsk | acro458: Don’t get me wrong OpenStack is awesome - but if you are looking at it as a free alternative to vSphere and feature parity | 17:07 |
| maishsk | OpenStack is not the solution. | 17:07 |
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| acro458 | Is there a better solution? | 17:07 |
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| maishsk | Free? | 17:08 |
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| einarr | RedHat provides some virtualization stuff. however, it's not free. | 17:08 |
| maishsk | no | 17:08 |
| acro458 | Has to be free | 17:08 |
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| acro458 | what about xenserver and xencenter? | 17:08 |
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| maishsk | not very familiar with them. | 17:09 |
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| acro458 | did you go to school for this? | 17:10 |
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| einarr | besides being engineers? no, i suppose most of us didn't. | 17:12 |
| acro458 | I want to learn more, but can't find a place that teaches you all the different virtualization options | 17:12 |
| acro458 | I am the wrong kind of engineer :/ | 17:12 |
| ndru | maishsk: What are openstack's shortcomings in being a replacement for that? | 17:12 |
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| maishsk | Fault tolerance for one | 17:13 |
| einarr | ndru: not exactly shortcommings, but openstack is mainly ment to provide a scalable cloud rather than a virtual server room. | 17:13 |
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| maishsk | einarr: +1. OpenStack is so much more than just vCenter and vSphere | 17:13 |
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| acro458 | I wish there were stepping-stones. Where I do step 1,2,3...and eventually get to decide if I need openstack or not | 17:15 |
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| ndru | Thanks for the clarification, I'm not that familiar with the vFamily, was just curious | 17:15 |
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| acro458 | RIght now I just have a clusterf**k of options that I don't even know exactly what they do | 17:15 |
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| ndru | Do you atleast know what you need? | 17:16 |
| acro458 | Now I know why a lot of people use vmware. Costs a lot but practically anyone can use it | 17:16 |
| einarr | acro458: there are seminars, conferences and probably online courses about virtualisation technology. i'd start there, i guess. | 17:16 |
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| einarr | vmware is fine. | 17:16 |
| acro458 | I esentially need a free version of the paid vcenter lol | 17:16 |
| drawsmcgraw | acro458: what einarr said. Also, if you have the ability to acquire one or two servers to keep around for trying out technologies, it helps a lot | 17:16 |
| drawsmcgraw | Free / Open Source solutions are "Free like a puppy" | 17:17 |
| acro458 | I need live backups, fault tolerance, and live migration (do not need the others like load balancing/etc) | 17:17 |
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| drawsmcgraw | I don't see why Openstack couldn't do those. Granted, it's a lot (a *lot*) more work than just cutting a check to VMware... | 17:18 |
| einarr | acro458: sounds very much like vmware to me. particularly if you don't have much competence on virtualisation in your company already. | 17:18 |
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| acro458 | We calculated vmware's cost and it is around 80k. If I fight hard, I may be able to get 1k. | 17:19 |
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| acro458 | I want to gain competence in virtualization. Just don't know where to start | 17:19 |
| acro458 | I read mastering vmware vsphere book, but that only helps with vmware. Not to mention the paid version we dont use! | 17:20 |
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| acro458 | There aren't enough hours in the day to learn about all the other virtualization technologies to find out which is right for me/us. :) | 17:21 |
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| einarr | free virtualization tools: kvm and virtualbox. both might do for small setups, neither offers fault tolerance etc, at least not in the free versions. | 17:23 |
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| obcecado | let me guess, you read that on vmware blog | 17:25 |
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| acro458 | http://www.poppelgaard.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/2015-01-13_1630.png | 17:26 |
| acro458 | This is the closest I found to what I want | 17:26 |
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| acro458 | It says "Free"...so... *shrug* | 17:27 |
| acro458 | All those features for free would kick ass | 17:27 |
| einarr | obcecado: me? no. but please do enlighten me. | 17:27 |
| maishsk | acro458: if you are looking for a really low budget - VMware does have an entry bundle - but it is limited | 17:28 |
| acro458 | Yah, only 3 machine | 17:28 |
| acro458 | s | 17:28 |
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| acro458 | Even that price is too high ;p; | 17:29 |
| maishsk | 3 physical servers - can hold a whole lot of awesome. | 17:29 |
| acro458 | We have bigger problems... I know. ;) | 17:29 |
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| acro458 | Yah but if one goes down, thats a lot of hurt ;) | 17:29 |
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| mylu | Hey guys I hit a problem with the python-keystonclient when I try to do client.session.get(url=url, headers=headers, verify=False). I get "keystoneclient.openstack.common.apiclient.exceptions.Unauthorized:" and in keystone.log file I see "keystone.middleware.core [-] Auth token not in the request header" But I set my header to {'X-Auth-Token': '1234567qwert'} can anyone help me with that? | 17:31 |
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| einarr | acro458: is this a startup company of some kind? you haven't considered migrating to aws (or any other public cloud) to get rid of the problem with servers altogether? | 17:33 |
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| drawsmcgraw | einarr: They don't even want a couple thousand for a VMware license. They'll balk at an AWS quote :/ | 17:34 |
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| drawsmcgraw | Er... he left | 17:35 |
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| einarr | ah, i ignore join/quits in this channel. but he wasn't in the right place anyways. it costs way more than a couple thousand having someone struggling with openstack until it works. | 17:37 |
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| drawsmcgraw | I know :/ I'm pretty terrible at it but I do understand the workload. | 17:41 |
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| drawsmcgraw | I've worked with unreasonable customers like that before, though. Don't want to spend a dime, then complain about functionality and/or speed to delivery. | 17:41 |
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| Gerardo_ | hi everybody | 17:41 |
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| Gerardo_ | i´m still setting up my openstack services | 17:42 |
| Gerardo_ | now i have another question | 17:42 |
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| Gerardo_ | does anybody knows how can i configure a EMC block storage? | 17:43 |
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| maishsk_afk | /nick maishsk | 17:43 |
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| Sam-I-Am | Gerardo_: does it speak iscsi? | 17:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | there's an emc driver for cinder, iirc | 17:44 |
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| Gerardo_ | ok i'm looking some manual of emc, i have a storage node | 17:45 |
| Gerardo_ | and also a emc storage | 17:46 |
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| Gerardo_ | letme check how to configure together | 17:47 |
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| Gerardo_ | yesterday i set my network node on the vlan directly and i couldn´t ping gateway so my OpenStack was good | 17:48 |
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| t3chguy | Could anyone take a moment to explain or provide me with a link that fully explains networking in as simple terms as possible (as far as OpenStack is concerned, with the whole bridging thing especially) I have a /64 range of IPv6 and 9 IPv4 Addresses, do I need to create a bridge for each of them or, etc? | 18:05 |
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| Sam-I-Am | t3chguy: uh | 18:09 |
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| Sam-I-Am | what are you trying to do? | 18:09 |
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| t3chguy | run platform 9 on an OVH Dedi | 18:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | i dont know what those things are | 18:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | but i can point you at the networking guide at docs.openstack.org | 18:10 |
| t3chguy | Platform 9 is an Openstack control panel | 18:10 |
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| t3chguy | it managed to create a VM, with a lot of url_helper.py errors during it | 18:11 |
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| t3chguy | but it doesn't look like the VM actually has an ip address | 18:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | is it a replacement for horizon or something? | 18:11 |
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| t3chguy | looks like it | 18:12 |
| t3chguy | but its hosted | 18:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | is it talking to a standard openstack install? | 18:12 |
| t3chguy | yeah | 18:12 |
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| t3chguy | just my instances aren't getting IPs now | 18:12 |
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| Sam-I-Am | how did you install it? | 18:13 |
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| t3chguy | they ship a bash file which installs it | 18:13 |
| t3chguy | or do you mean the VM? | 18:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | i mean, openstack | 18:13 |
| t3chguy | through their bash file | 18:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | hmm, i wonder what it does | 18:14 |
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| t3chguy | so, do I need an inet bridge for each inet interface? | 18:14 |
| t3chguy | eth0, eth0:0 etc? | 18:14 |
| Sam-I-Am | single node? nova-net or neutron? | 18:14 |
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| t3chguy | single node, and it looks like clients for both nova and neutron got installed | 18:15 |
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| Sam-I-Am | hmm. got a link to the installer? | 18:16 |
| t3chguy | nope | 18:17 |
| t3chguy | its a personalized file which automatically connects the node to your login of the service | 18:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | awesome. well, sounds like a support request to them | 18:18 |
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| t3chguy | Its odd how I can't get a solid answer to how many network bridges should be configured for a single node setup with multiple IPs | 18:19 |
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| Sam-I-Am | does it use openvswitch? | 18:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | do you only have one phys interface? | 18:20 |
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| t3chguy | yeah | 18:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | then you only need to create br-ex, and assign one of your ips to it | 18:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | you'll lose connectivity while you move it | 18:22 |
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| t3chguy | well, did that and now I get "ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device" | 18:34 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i really dont know what this script does | 18:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | so its difficult to help | 18:34 |
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| t3chguy | alright | 18:42 |
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| t3chguy | now it seems to be binding | 18:42 |
| t3chguy | to an internal | 18:42 |
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| t3chguy | don't see any of the previous warnings, hmm | 18:45 |
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| t3chguy | spoke too soon | 18:47 |
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| Sam-I-Am | hmm | 18:48 |
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| t3chguy | it looks to be nova, as the nova iptables rules are here | 18:49 |
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| Sam-I-Am | where? | 18:50 |
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| t3chguy | iptables -L has a bunch of nova Chains | 18:50 |
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| Sam-I-Am | such as? | 18:54 |
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| t3chguy | Sam-I-Am: http://termbin.com/0zid | 18:57 |
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| Redcavalier | quick question, is the glance process cpu capped or network transfer speed capped? | 18:57 |
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| Sam-I-Am | t3chguy: it would be normal to see iptables where compute runs, but those look like nova-net rules, not neutron. | 18:58 |
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| loth | Sam-I-Am: I need to allow 169.254.0.0/16 for l3-agent-ha to work correctly correct? | 19:01 |
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| Sam-I-Am | loth: it should just work, where would you specifically allow ? | 19:03 |
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| loth | I noticed on my router i have "HA port tenant $uuid" 169.254.192.3 | 19:03 |
| loth | just making sure i dont have to allow that on the host | 19:04 |
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| lcurtis | hello all...is it normal to see an http:/1.1 100 continue immediately followed by < HTTP/1.1 200 OK> doing an auth against keystone | 19:05 |
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| Sam-I-Am | loth: you need to allow the ha network, but by default it should be allowed (unless you're specifically blocking stuff) | 19:05 |
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| loth | I have firewalld which blocks everything by default | 19:06 |
| loth | should i just allow everything on vrrp protocol? | 19:06 |
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| Sam-I-Am | loth: probably | 19:10 |
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| fredeerock | Has anyone tried combining the network node and block storage node? | 19:13 |
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| Sam-I-Am | no, but its possible | 19:14 |
| MentalRay | Sam-I-Am, | 19:15 |
| MentalRay | there was a bug with glance ;) | 19:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | MentalRay: this is me looking not surprised | 19:15 |
| MentalRay | when using raw images on kilo | 19:15 |
| MentalRay | and doing snapshot | 19:15 |
| MentalRay | its messing with RAMDISK id | 19:15 |
| MentalRay | which break when trying to use this snapshot | 19:15 |
| MentalRay | to boot a new instance | 19:15 |
| MentalRay | its magical | 19:15 |
| MentalRay | found an obscur bug report on launchpad | 19:16 |
| Redcavalier | that's only on ceph where the nova code uses glanceV2 though | 19:16 |
| MentalRay | some1 propose a fix but it was not approved | 19:16 |
| MentalRay | and the bug died | 19:16 |
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| MentalRay | anyway | 19:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | MentalRay: this wasnt the blueprint i linked you to, right? | 19:17 |
| MentalRay | at least fix seem to work | 19:17 |
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| MentalRay | nah | 19:17 |
| Redcavalier | fix was ridiculously simple btw | 19:17 |
| Redcavalier | just change the type of string for 2 fields in schema-image.json | 19:18 |
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| MentalRay | now we are working an issue with glance and speed of snapshot :p | 19:20 |
| MentalRay | lol | 19:20 |
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| Redcavalier | yea, it looks like glance upload process is cpu throttled. looks like it can'T upload snapshots at more than 80 MB/sec and it can't use more than 30% cpu | 19:26 |
| Redcavalier | it's per process though, so if we do 8 snapshots at the same time, I can reach much higher number | 19:27 |
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| Josh_ | Hi I am trying to install openstack kilo using devstack. But everytime it is giving me a error saying can not start c-api. I tried many times. any suggestions? | 19:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | Josh_: any particular reason you're using devstack? | 19:57 |
| Josh_ | yes, I want to work on ironic module | 19:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | its possible cinder is just broken | 19:58 |
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| Sam-I-Am | if you're cloning from master | 19:58 |
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| Josh_ | no from the stable/kilo | 19:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | oh, that should work | 19:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | do you see an error for cinder api? | 19:59 |
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| Josh_ | it is trying to connect to the cinder api but then couldn't connect and giving this error | 20:00 |
| Josh_ | it is getting stuck in the wait_for_service section | 20:00 |
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| Sam-I-Am | for some reason its not coming up | 20:02 |
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| Josh_ | yes | 20:02 |
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| MentalRay | Sam-I-Am, | 20:28 |
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| MentalRay | if you do a snapshot | 20:28 |
| MentalRay | what speed are you getting from your compute node to your storage (glance as a gateway) | 20:29 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i dont have a good place to test this | 20:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | all my crap is in public cloud | 20:32 |
| MentalRay | ok ok | 20:32 |
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| MentalRay | here its seem to be capped | 20:32 |
| MentalRay | 30% of a cpu core | 20:32 |
| MentalRay | and 60-80 MB/s | 20:32 |
| MentalRay | per snapshot | 20:32 |
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| MentalRay | if the snapshot is 500gb | 20:33 |
| MentalRay | its gonna take long time to transfer | 20:33 |
| MentalRay | at80 | 20:34 |
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| MentalRay | you should get a LAB | 20:35 |
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| MentalRay | on barebone | 20:35 |
| MentalRay | and 10gbe | 20:35 |
| MentalRay | :p | 20:36 |
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| Sam-I-Am | MentalRay: i take donations | 20:42 |
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| MentalRay | I do too :p | 20:51 |
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| Gerardo_ | thanks a lot, the project is going good | 21:08 |
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| Gerardo_ | i'm going to eat | 21:09 |
| Gerardo_ | see you guys | 21:09 |
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| baudtack | can some point point me at a tutorial for the security groups? I'm trying to figure out how to control access to ports for a vm | 21:11 |
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| einarr | http://docs.openstack.org/openstack-ops/content/security_groups.html | 21:13 |
| baudtack | einarr: herp derp. thanks. X_X been a long day heh | 21:14 |
| einarr | in short; the default is deny, everything else opens stuff. it may be easier to start playing with them in the horizon interface than on the command line the first time to see how it's connected. | 21:16 |
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| baudtack | I'm trying to learn how to use the OpenStack API. I'm following this http://developer.openstack.org/firstapp-libcloud/getting_started.html with a new vm i've created and got openstack running with devstack on. I can connect with my browser but every single time i try to connect via libcloud with python i get MalformedResponseError | 23:11 |
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| baudtack | any ideas where i can even start to look to figure out what the problem is? | 23:11 |
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| baudtack | http://pastebin.com/20PHU6Nh << code and full traceback | 23:14 |
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| baudtack | okay... so my service catalog appears to be empty? I have no idea what that means but apparently it's a problem. | 23:26 |
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| loth | Sam-I-Am: If i have an existing keepalived setup would it interfere with the ha-neutron-l3 stuff? | 23:55 |
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| loth | tcpdump shows 10.0.128.105 > 224.0.0.18: VRRPv2, which is the management ip of my active non-neutron lb | 23:56 |
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