Monday, 2015-07-20

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NightKhaoslarsks, Sam-I-Am: ping. We've made progress, sort of. If either of you are around I could use a little help again.00:31
Sam-I-AmNightKhaos: whats up?00:33
NightKhaosSam-I-Am: Traffic will now exit the qrouter, but it won't enter it.00:34
NightKhaosPreviously it would do neither.00:34
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Sam-I-Amso your vms get net access?00:36
NightKhaosNot quite. They can yell at the outside world, but they're deaf. Let me check if it's specific to instances with floatings however.00:37
Sam-I-Amyell as in arp works, or arp does not work00:39
NightKhaosYell as in arp works, and they can ICMP echo request. But they recieve no reply.00:40
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NightKhaosThe packets are hitting the external (physical) interface of the management node.00:41
Sam-I-Amdo the icmp replies return?00:41
NightKhaosNope.00:41
NightKhaosI think it might still be a problem with the external router configuration.00:43
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Sam-I-Amsounds like it00:43
Sam-I-Ammaybe the external router doesnt understand the source ip range?00:43
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NightKhaosIt does, because we can ping the router.00:44
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NightKhaos(qrouter)00:44
NightKhaosI'll have a talk to the Network Admin in control of the external router, see if he can see anything wrong.00:44
Sam-I-Amcan ping the router, but nothing else on the same network?00:45
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NightKhaosExternal Router can ping qrouter, qrouter can ping external router. VM can't ping external but can ping qrouter. External can't ping VM via floating.00:50
Sam-I-Amqrouter cant ping beyond router?00:51
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NightKhaosNope00:56
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NightKhaosSam-I-Am: No wait, it can.00:57
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NightKhaosSam-I-Am: just not the internet. But that's a firewall policy problem, not a problem with Neutron.00:57
OutBackDingoNightKhaos: sounds to me liuke a firewall rule00:58
NightKhaosOutBackDingo: In some ways yes. However, external host behind external router = works from qrouter, doesn't work from VM.00:58
Sam-I-Amvms are using snat?00:59
Sam-I-Amor even a fip00:59
NightKhaosSam-I-Am: tried from both.00:59
NightKhaos(Two instancese, one with FIP, one without)00:59
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Sam-I-Amwhat happens to the packets?01:00
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NightKhaosIn both cases, dropped on qrouter. Recieve echo-reply on qg interface, does not exit on qr interface.01:01
NightKhaosSam-I-Am: I think I might update my ask openstack question after lunch with some more up to date tcpdumps so this makes a little more sense! :)01:03
Sam-I-Amcan you tell what happens to it?01:03
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NightKhaosSam-I-Am: I could try adding a log rule to iptables. I'll investgate where it's going in the chains as well. But before that I need lunch.01:04
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Sam-I-Amheh01:05
Sam-I-Ami'm still working on dinner :)01:05
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NightKhaosSam-I-Am: So the packets are hitting the DNAT rule that should redirect them to the internal IP address...02:07
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Sam-I-AmNightKhaos: ok. whats happening after that?02:49
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NightKhaosSam-I-Am: As far as I can tell, nothing. They're not exiting on the expected interface, they're not forwarding into another chain...02:52
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Sam-I-Ami've never seen this before, so it sort of sounds like a config issue or some sort of bug02:54
Sam-I-Amare the iptables rules there?02:54
Sam-I-Amare the right rules incrementing?02:54
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NightKhaosSam-I-Am: Wait I second, I just realised the subnet I'm using is outside of RFC1918. I doubt it's affecting anything, but it's worth changing just in case. I used 172.32, which is outside 172.16.0.0/12. My bad.02:57
Sam-I-Amit would be...02:58
NightKhaosSam-I-Am: give me two minutes to move to an RFC1918 complaint subnet.02:58
Sam-I-Amit should work though, unless you specifically route 172.3202:58
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NightKhaosSam-I-Am: That... was it. *facepalm* Okay, so two compounding issues, one of which was me having an 10T error.03:04
Sam-I-Amheh03:04
Sam-I-Amso what was 172.32 on your network?03:04
NightKhaosThe internal network was 172.32.1.0/2403:04
Sam-I-Amyeah03:04
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Sam-I-Amusually it shouldnt matter what range youre using03:06
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NightKhaos*blink* If I STOP pinging it, it stops working.03:07
NightKhaosi.e. while ping is ongoing, get response... stop ping for 5 seconds... try pinging again, doesn't work.03:07
NightKhaosI can get it to ping again by reassociating the floating.03:08
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NightKhaosCannot SSH.03:09
NightKhaosWhiskey Tango Foxtrot. :S03:09
Sam-I-Amhmm03:10
Sam-I-Amis something stealing arp?03:10
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NightKhaosRace condition. I think. When dissassoc (or reassoc) there is a small period where the IP exists but the DNAT rule does not. The pings are getting through in that window. Why they continue to work after that window I'm not sure...03:12
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NightKhaosSo my use of a non RFC1918 complaint subnet was not to blame. I was hoping for something easy. :(03:13
NightKhaoss/complaint/compliant/03:14
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Sam-I-Ami thought it'd be weird if that was it03:17
Sam-I-Ami'd kick the complication out of your system and try again03:17
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NightKhaosSam-I-Am: Alright then. That's going to causes me some pain, especially in the long run. First things first, non-HA router. I can do that without reconfiguring anything.03:24
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NightKhaosNon-HA router = no change.03:30
Sam-I-Ami'd take a look at those iptables counters03:32
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NightKhaosSam-I-Am: I did. Exactly the same symptons. DNAT incrementing, traffic not leaving as expected.03:35
NightKhaosMore to single external network mode.03:35
NightKhaosMoving*03:35
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Sam-I-Amif dnat is incrementing, where is the traffic going?03:35
NightKhaosSam-I-Am: !! Exactly Sam. Exactly.03:36
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Sam-I-Amsomething is fishy03:37
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NightKhaosSam-I-Am: moving to a single, hard-coded, external network doesn't work either.03:51
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Sam-I-Amhmm03:54
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ndruWhat is the best method to allow an instance public network access, but no access to LAN resources including Openstack Hosts? It would be simple to implement a deny rule in the security groups, if that were possible.05:08
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NightKhaosndru: Don't listen on the external network (e.g. br-ex).05:17
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ndruRegarding the services and the iptables rules for each of the openstack nodes?05:18
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NightKhaosndru: No, at all. As in no IP address, and if you're paranoid, a blanket deny all from br-ex.05:20
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ndruMy br-ex doesn't have any IP on it itself. Namespaces hold the IPs on it.05:20
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NightKhaosndru: Good, and your br-ex is only allowed external network access via your external firewall/router?05:21
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ndruYes, vm -> compute -> br-int -> GRE -> controller -> br-ex -> VLAN -> switch -> router -> public05:22
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NightKhaosndru: Then you have already achieved your stated goal.05:22
ndruTrue. That works for the host access (which right now is possible through the router - which I can block), but I'm curious about the allow_same_net_traffic05:24
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ndruIt doesn't appear to be using the router, so if I want to prevent instance<->instance communication while still allowing outbound access, will that option force it to go through the router?05:25
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ndruinstance<->instance on the same network, that is05:25
NightKhaosSecurity Groups?05:25
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ndruYes, there are security groups. However, there isn't a deny. So, I can't allow 0.0.0.0/0 without allowing the private LAN ranges.05:27
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ndruEverything that I've tried digging into has pointed me towards FWaaS, but that seems overkill for something so simple as preventing local access, but allowing public.05:28
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NightKhaosndru: Let me clarify if this is what you're trying to block cause otherwise I'm a little confused: Instance A in Tenant A's network talking to Instance B in Tenant B's network?05:28
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ndruInstance A in Tenant A's network talking to Instance B in Tenant A's network.05:29
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ndruAswell as either A or B talking to anything along the way to the router directly.05:30
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NightKhaosndru: You're subnetting wrong. Tenant A should have 2 networks since you have 2 applications that need isolation from one another.05:31
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NightKhaosndru: Second question, is the network on VLAN a public or private range?05:32
ndruprivate05:32
ndruThe router is doing bi-directional NAT for the floating IPs on the VLAN mapping to public IPs05:32
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NightKhaosndru: What is your reasoning for not just exposing the public addresses on VLAN?05:33
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ndruUnfortunately, I'm getting a /23 over a /29. So, the interface with the /29 is where the /23 can be accessible from.05:35
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NightKhaosndru: I take it said /23 is quite densely packed such that you can't split it so that the /29 can be exposed directly?05:36
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ndruIt isn't actually, but all of the /29 is dedicated to stuff that can't be absorbed into Openstack atm.05:37
ndruSo, I'm trying to work around the mess lol05:38
NightKhaosndru: Explains a lot.05:38
ndruThat day will come and neutron will thank me, I'm sure.05:38
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ndruSo, to try and work around it, would I need a floating IP range and accompanying external router on an individual VLAN for each application I'd want to be isolated?05:39
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NightKhaosndru: Effectively yes. However, I'm sure you've already noted this, this can be quite address expensive.05:40
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NightKhaosndru: However Neutron is quite address expensive in general!05:40
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ndruYes it is!05:40
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NightKhaosndru: Have you considered using IPv6?05:41
ndruI could technically break these /24's LAN VLANs into /30's05:41
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ndruYou have no idea how bad I want to05:41
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NightKhaosndru: Well, since you only have a /29, I assume the apps you're trying to expose are few in number, so... put on your Nike's and just do it. Say IPv4 is not supported in the OS enviroment, and any IPv4 track needs to be 64 NATedd at the external firewall.05:43
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ndruI may have to put my hands up and demand it. If it weren't for PCI problems and banks being involved, I wouldn't care.05:43
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ndruBecause having to treat all these local ranges as though they're public is painful.05:44
NightKhaosOpenStack has been built with the assumption you're dealing with a relatively large public pool.05:44
ndruWell, the /23 is fully routable over the /29. It's just the DC that can't give me the /23 directly.05:45
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ndruOnly about 10% of the /23 is in use, though.05:45
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NightKhaosndru: Give them options then: give you a /24 of your own, or give you a /48 of your own. Tell them you can deal with either, but not neither. :P05:46
ndru:D05:46
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ndruI'll go ahead and do that. Thanks for the chat and support.05:46
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NightKhaosndru: Yep, I'm sorry I couldn't give you an easy fix. :(05:47
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NightKhaosndru: FWaaS might be the best option if you can't get more address space unfortunately.05:47
ndruNah, I had realistic hopes, no need for an apology.05:47
ndruIt might have to be a bandaid. Any latency they want to spit at me I can easily throw back at them and say WELL IF IT WASN'T HAVING TO DO THIS SILLINESS05:48
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NightKhaosndru: *nods* I get it. Fortunately my work is a little more understanding.05:49
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NightKhaosndru: The cost cutting measures I have to deal with are hardware specific only. Through these little C2750s are performing quite well, for Atoms.05:50
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benschwarzlifeless: hi!06:12
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sakthihi i was getting authentication pbm in nova communication.06:24
sakthiDEBUG (shell:777) Unauthorized (HTTP 401)06:24
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__dedi__hi!06:56
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hetiiHow to solve: ERROR (SSLError): [Errno 1] _ssl.c:510: error:14090086:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_SERVER_CERTIFICATE:certificate verify failed07:09
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__dedi__I am looking for help! I cannot ping an instance's floating ip while I CAN ping router's ip of public network07:41
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telnes__dedi__ do you add icmp in security groupe07:44
__dedi__telnes, yes I did>: I can ping the router's interface on public network, but not the floating iip of the instance07:45
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__dedi__telnes just a sec, I am going to paste relevan informtions07:46
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telnes__dedi__ in vnc view the instance is started well ?07:50
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__dedi__telnes, yes, the instance up and running (details: http://pastie.org/10302023)07:51
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telnes__dedi__ from the vnc coull'd you ping the ext lan07:52
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__dedi__telnes, I can ping floating ip address from everywhere( from the instance too!) but not from the world07:53
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__dedi__from the instance I can ssh to its floating ip address!07:53
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telnestcpdump on the network node to see arp ...07:54
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__dedi__telnes, tcpdump on external interface?07:55
telnesyes07:55
telnesto see if arp work or not07:55
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__dedi__telnes, I use a vlan interface as an external interface, the tcpdump says: 'tcpdump: nflog: That device doesn't support monitor mode'07:56
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telnesmm07:56
telneson yours07:56
__dedi__telnes, I set interface to promisc mode, but no success07:58
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telnesit's a fresh install ?07:59
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__dedi__telnes, yest it is. I cannot catch any icmp when I poing the floating ip, but there is normal request/reply when I ping the router's interface address07:59
telnestcpdump vlan exemple : tcpdump -i eth1 vlan 3542 or may be tcpdump -i eth0.354208:00
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__dedi__telnes, what kind of information should I paste in order to fogure out what the problem is?08:01
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telnesno idea I search to exclude problem :D08:02
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telnesall service are up and running08:03
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__dedi__telnes, yes..08:03
telneswatch ERROR in logs08:03
__dedi__telnes, it is maybe a routing or firewalling problem, because i CAN ping th router, but not the instance, and I cannot see any icmp traffice whe I ping the interface of instance08:05
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__dedi__telnes, there is no error except this: ' WARNING keystonemiddleware.auth_token [-] Identity response: {"error": {"message": "Failed to validate token", "code": 404, "title": "Not Found"}}'08:07
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__dedi__telnes, in the neutron-server.log08:07
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telnesI am more network man it's why I try to see packet :D08:09
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telnesmay be ceck a tcpdump in the namespace08:09
telnes*check08:09
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__dedi__telnes, oh my fail.. you are right!08:09
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__dedi__telnes, gotcha! tcpdump shows only icmp echo request but no reply08:11
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__dedi__telnes, the floating ip missing from the namespace's arp table!08:13
telneshow do you associate the floatting IP08:13
telneshorizon or CLI08:13
__dedi__telnes, however the router's ip missing too, and I can ping it.. :-/08:14
n1colaso/08:14
__dedi__telnes, horizon08:14
telnesI get this error when I #127.0.0.1 in the /etc/hosts file08:14
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WimpyManG'day guys!  We are having a bit of an issue using radoisgw with our openstack installation10:02
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WimpyManIt looks like the keys are not created on radosgw. Neither for swif nor s310:03
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* echirivella Hi everybody10:09
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TMMhello! I was wondering if it was possible using neutron to let tenants create their own subnets within a predefined ip space10:41
TMMsome of my users are asking for an analogy to the aws 'vpc' stuff,10:41
Nicola-1980hi guys, I'm trying a manual deploy of Openstack on Centos 7. I'm installing the identity service now, but I can't get it work. Followed this: http://docs.openstack.org/kilo/install-guide/install/yum/content/ch_keystone.html10:41
Nicola-1980when I run: openstack service create --name keystone --description "OpenStack Identity" identity10:42
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Nicola-1980I get: ERROR: openstack Unable to establish connection to http://controller:35357/v2.0/OS-KSADM/services10:42
Nicola-1980and yes, apache is not listening on 3535710:42
Nicola-1980but I configured all in /etc/httpd/conf.d/wsgi-keystone.conf10:43
Nicola-1980any idea?10:43
Nicola-1980it seems like apache didn't load wsgi-keystone.conf10:44
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Nicola-1980none? :(10:51
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telneshello12:26
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telnessomebody know If I need to use virt-resize to reduce the size of a virtual disk (qemu-img info give me virtual size: 440G , and I want to put more like 50G àr 100G) ?12:28
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larsksNicola-1980: more folks are around during us business hours.  East coast just arriving at office, west coast probably still sleeping :)13:10
Nicola-1980:)13:10
Nicola-1980I've solved my issue, but I'm running into another one13:10
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telneslarsks, do you know if there are a tool to reduce the size of the vdisk of an instance ?13:15
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larskstelnes: Not that I'm aware of.  You could create a smaller volume, attach it, and copy the data.  You can try using something like virt-resize if you have access to the compute hosts.13:17
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telneslarsks thanks13:23
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verdurinlarsks: Would what you wrote in http://superuser.openstack.org/articles/multiple-external-networks-with-a-single-l3-agent13:26
verdurinwork in the case of access to the external networks being via VLAN?13:27
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larsksverdurin: "probably".  That is, I haven't tried it, but it seems as if that would be a relatively common request.13:29
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larsksProbably including the use of --provider:network_type=vlan –provider:segmentation_id=<vlan id> ...13:29
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verdurinlarsks: Yes, exactly.13:30
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larsks...but I have never tried that myself.13:31
verdurinAll our networks are VLANs.13:31
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verdurinNo, but as long as it doesn't sound unworkable.13:31
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verdurinlarsks: thanks.13:35
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Nicola-1980hey all, I'm installing Kilo following the official guide on Centos. When I do "openstack service create --name keystone --description "OpenStack Identity" identity" I get the following error: "ERROR: openstack An unexpected error prevented the server from fulfilling your request. (HTTP 500) (Request-ID: req-663c28e9-41b7-46ef-a4b2-2d2eeff3a787)"13:58
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Nicola-1980and the keystone log: OperationalError: (OperationalError) (1045, "Access denied for user 'keystone'@'localhost' (using password: YES)") None None13:59
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telnesinvalide password ?13:59
Nicola-1980the password is correct13:59
Nicola-1980double checked and changed two times14:00
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telneserror in config file14:00
telnesadd debug mode in log14:00
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Nicola-1980I've added verbose to logs14:01
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Nicola-1980sorry, to keystone14:01
Nicola-1980but this is all I get :(14:01
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telneswhat test do you do14:02
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Nicola-1980I tried to connect to Mariadb with user keystone and password14:03
Nicola-1980and works fine14:03
telnesok14:03
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telnesdo you have special cher in the password14:04
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Nicola-1980connection = mysql://keystone:password@controller/keystone14:04
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Nicola-1980password is password (testing env)14:04
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Nicola-1980I granted all permissions: grant all privileges on keystone.* to 'keystone'@'%' identified by 'password'14:05
Nicola-1980and also on localhost14:05
telnesrestart service14:06
telnesrestart computer14:06
telnesrestart internet :D14:06
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Nicola-1980done all..14:08
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telnesit is a fresh install14:08
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Nicola-1980yep14:09
telneslink ?14:09
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Nicola-1980on Virtualbox14:11
Nicola-1980but I can give you a list of commands14:11
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telnesdid you follow the official doc14:13
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telnesall service in one server ?14:13
telneson t314:13
telnes*314:13
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Nicola-1980na I've 5 servers14:14
Nicola-1980and I'm trying to install the identity service on the controller14:15
Nicola-1980http://pastebin.com/ta5gb0gP14:15
Nicola-1980this is what I've done14:15
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Nicola-1980network is ok14:15
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Nicola-1980and yes I followed the official doc14:17
telnesthe error is on the kilo server or the keystone ?14:18
telnesbecause all other service use keystone and ? no error ?14:19
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Nicola-1980I don't have other services atm14:19
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Nicola-1980I'm manually setting up the keystone and when I try to create the identity for the Identity Service, it fails14:21
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Nicola-1980the only things I've done, are in the pastebin file14:23
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Nicola-1980and are the same mentioned on the official guide14:23
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|splat|good to know: trying to run dnsmasq as a caching dns server on your head node screws up dhcp14:24
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telnesNicola-1980 check the /etc/keystone/keystone.conf file14:30
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telnesare the line connection correcct14:31
Nicola-1980yep sure14:31
Nicola-1980is the first thing I checked14:31
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telneshttp://adam.younglogic.com/2015/03/troubleshoot-new-keystone/14:33
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drawsmcgrawIf anyone has pointers or experience or *anything* helpful, I would love anything you have to say on -> https://www.reddit.com/r/openstack/comments/3dyas8/upgrade_from_openstack_icehouse_to_kilo_on_centos/15:05
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verdurinIs there a way in Neutron of having instances from different tenants all using a VLAN but restricting them to only the gateway15:08
verdurinso they can't communicate with each other?15:08
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verdurinIn other words, an equivalent of a Private VLAN.15:09
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PrabashHi,I have configured a multinode setup based on JUNO. The compute instances doesn't get any IP15:10
PrabashThere is no outbound network traffic on the compute node on which the instance is hosted.15:10
Prabashroot@d3c-1e-04-46-f0-3e:/root# ovs-ofctl dump-flows br-tunnel15:10
PrabashNXST_FLOW reply (xid=0x4):15:10
Prabash cookie=0x0, duration=709.652s, table=0, n_packets=1, n_bytes=90, idle_age=700, priority=0 actions=drop15:10
PrabashThe traffic not going out of br-tunnel15:11
Prabashwhat might be the issue15:11
Prabashthe output of ovs-ofctl shows drop in the first line15:11
Prabashplease help15:11
PrabashAll the nodes are configured (compute-1 + compute-2 and controller(openstack services including neutron) are configured using a single network card for physical network15:12
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PrabashWhat would have been the issue ?15:12
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PrabashThe horizon dash board says the 192.168.123.2 is the ip assigned to the instance15:13
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Prabashbut when I checked the logging into the instance from dashboard there no IP and instances does not communicate each other as they are not on the network15:14
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PrabashI can see the DHCP request from the instance15:14
PrabashPlease help15:14
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|splat|I’ve got this weird thing going on now where my Linux instances grab an IP fine via dhcp but the windows instances are now15:38
|splat|not15:38
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telneshello I try to run fsck on a raw partition imag, after mounting in with losetup15:43
kbringardare you able to access the windows logs at all?15:43
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kbringard|splat|: ^^15:43
telnesbut I don't know why ?15:43
telnesI can see with fdisk that I have one partition /dev/loop0p115:44
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telnesfsck /dev/loop0p115:45
telnesfsck from util-linux 2.20.115:45
telnese2fsck 1.42.9 (4-Feb-2014)15:45
telnesfsck.ext2: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/loop0p115:45
telnesPossibly non-existent device?15:45
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telnesany idea15:45
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|splat|kbringard: yes, i can15:45
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|splat|i don’t really know where that is on 2012 tho...15:46
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kbringard|splat|: I was just thinking that maybe if you looked at the DHCP logs it may give you some insight as to why it's failing15:47
kbringardor if it's even getting the DHCPOFFER15:47
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|splat|i think i found the event viewer. would that be in System?15:47
crossbeauIs anyone using Mirantis OS with ESXi as hypervisor ?15:48
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kbringard|splat|: I dunno, I'm not a windows guy15:48
marlincIf I wish to see a feature in Horizon where would I have to post that?15:49
kbringardjust guessing that you'll likely find something there that Windows doesn't like, since it seems like the OpenStack/DHCP side is working15:49
marlincOr possible discuss it :)15:49
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|splat|kbringard: me neither.15:49
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marlincAnd get other people their opinionm15:49
marlincOpinion*15:49
sgran|splat|: windows firewall?15:49
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|splat|sgran: these all worked a few weeks ago btu then i guess i made some configuration changes on the backened that made everythign stop working.  I think i figured out the behind the scenes stuff because CirrOS and CentOS images are fine.15:52
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jasonsbdrawsmcgraw: https://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/openstack/openstack-icehouse/15:52
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jasonsbdrawsmcgraw: is that icehouse for centos 7?15:53
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jasonsbPrabash: did your instance get a ip address successfully?15:56
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drawsmcgrawjasonsb: That link does include icehouse for 7. But I'm currently running CentOS 615:59
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jasonsbdrawsmcgraw: indeed.  that would give you flexibility to update os separately from openstack16:06
jasonsbdrawsmcgraw: so you are in good shape16:07
jasonsbdrawsmcgraw: evacuate a compute node.  put centos7+icehouse.  move vm's back.  rinse and repeat16:07
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Nicola-1980is using Openstack on lxc (i.e. https://github.com/stackforge/os-ansible-deployment) a good idea?16:07
jasonsbdrawsmcgraw: install a new centos7icehouse controller node pointing to existing database16:07
|splat|if i were to run tcpdump on my compute nodes or head node, which interface should i see the dhcp traffic on?  br-int? br-tun?16:08
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jasonsbdrawsmcgraw: update endpont list in keystone database to point to new controller ip16:08
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jasonsbdrawsmcgraw: that last step i think should cutover to new controller without anybody noticing16:09
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jasonsbdrawsmcgraw: but assumes using existing rabbit and existing database which you would upgrade in separate procedure16:10
drawsmcgrawjasonsb: I see. I guess I could migrate the database off the old Controller node and onto the new Controller node, then I can rebuild the old controller node?16:10
jasonsbdrawsmcgraw: i was thinking you would leave db on old controller node16:10
jasonsbdrawsmcgraw: until you upgrade to juno16:10
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drawsmcgrawjasonsb: Ah. So during the upgrade, er... build a new db on the new Controller?16:11
jasonsbdrawsmcgraw: then take a copy onto new contorller node and run the upgrade to juno16:11
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jasonsbif it goes bad you haven't broken icehouse because the orig database is intact16:11
drawsmcgrawAh, clever :)16:11
jasonsbthere are a lot of ways of doing this, but thats one that came to mind16:12
drawsmcgrawMakes sense16:12
drawsmcgrawOh!16:12
drawsmcgrawIs it hazardous to skip a version when upgrading?16:12
drawsmcgrawI'm looking at Icehouse -> Kiilo16:12
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drawsmcgrawWas afraid of that....16:13
jasonsbthings may be getting better overall but its hazardous16:13
jasonsbalembic stuff i think handles16:13
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jasonsbthe but the old stuff i think doesn't16:13
drawsmcgrawSo I take it a lot of people have tried, and have had issues?16:14
jasonsbits a little bit tedious but i think you are in pretty good shape16:14
jasonsbi would recommend following the most well tested path16:14
jasonsbwhich would be icehouse -> juno16:14
jasonsbjuno -> kilo16:14
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drawsmcgrawFair enough. Alright, I'll so some more homework and talk to the team about it. Thanks jasonsb!16:15
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dgbaleyHow can I update a network for vlan-transparent? Is it safe to do in the DB?16:25
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neoufhello16:32
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neoufi am trying openstack/xenserver  and i would like to know if someone did the same16:33
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neoufi see xen hypervisor on Openstack but when i trying to launch instance, something goes wrong and i some error like block device not found or host not found16:36
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jasonsbdrawsmcgraw: welcome.  there are other folks here (but not right now i guess) who would have clever ideas.  If you see sam-i-am on maybe ask again16:45
jasonsbdrawsmcgraw: but i think you should be ok since you acn test each step along the way16:46
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diogogmtwhich REST api endpoint can i use to upload an image o glance? i’m trying to use the python-glance-client but i’m not able to upload an image by providing a location URL16:48
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larsksdiogogmt: I'm not sure, but when in doubt, a good place to check is the existing glance cli client.  Try running it with --debug; you will see the API endpoints it is using.  Alternately, inspect the source to see how it is using the Python API.17:30
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|splat|so i can see dhcp requests from new instances on br-int (windows and linux), but i see nothing from these windows old instances.  One of the changes I made to move everything to the internal IPs must’ve changed something that was hardcoded into the old instances.17:52
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|splat|old linux instances are fine.  only old windows instances are having trouble with DHCP with my new settings.18:07
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|splat|i don’t see anything in the libvirt.xml that would make them statically link to the old IP settings18:07
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|splat|why does windows always have to be the most stubborn.18:12
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|splat|ok nope it is definitely all windows instances, brand new or existing, that still cannot get DHCP.18:33
|splat|I’m completely stumped.  All linux instances, old and new, are fine.18:33
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|splat|so weird. some new windows instances are fine. some are not.  i cannot trace down this error18:53
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jasonsb|splat|: if you have windows re-query dhcp does it work?19:32
|splat|nope19:32
jasonsb|splat|: maybe windows is giving up too fast?19:32
|splat|i’m rebooting all the nodes now to make sure it wasn’t node specific19:33
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|splat|i tried to migrate an instance and it failed19:33
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|splat|i don’t think i’ve ever been able to migrate instances19:33
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|splat|…rebooting all nodes seems to have worked.  even tho I restarted the services on each before19:47
|splat|that’s good news i suppose.19:47
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evilrob"cinder --os-volume-api-version 2 list" is giving me a 401 auth required.  according to the cinder-api log, it doesn't like the auth token.20:55
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evilrobrunning the same as version 1 just returns "ERROR: 'volumes'"20:55
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evilrobwhere do I hut down the 401 auth reqd issue?  Our OS guy is on vacation.20:56
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jnc8651When you run the command id add in "--debug" to have it show you everything you client did20:57
jnc8651does*20:57
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evilrobhmmm...  in keystone-all I have "User 206d091e2e5c416a83ba43896455be43 is unauthorized for tenant 4680107a78db4ac58a5880f95e95ee30"20:58
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evilrobjnc8651: that's one of the odd things.  when I run it from the host with keystone no.  But if I run if from the cinder node yes.20:58
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jnc8651So it works from the keystone node but not the cinder node?20:59
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jnc8651It sounds like you *may* have sourced the wrong creds20:59
evilrob--debug works from the cinder node, but not the keystone node.  the "cinder list" doesn't work from either node21:00
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jnc8651 Ah, more then likely the keystone box does not have the cinder client installed21:01
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evilrobno... python-cinderclient is installed.21:02
evilrobI think that's a red-herring21:02
evilrobso user 206d091e2e5c416a83ba43896455be43 doesn't actually exist in "keystone user-list"21:02
evilrobwhere is the cinder client getting that?21:03
emreTypeError: start_task() takes 2 positional arguments but 3 were given21:03
emregetting that on openstack-install21:03
emrevery strange21:03
jnc8651@evilrob thats wierd,  What is in your creds file?21:04
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evilrobwhere is that.  /me usually doesn't do this21:04
evilroboh... the one I source21:04
jnc8651Yarp that one21:04
jnc8651This is what is in mine21:04
jnc8651http://paste.openstack.org/show/392857/21:05
evilrobhttps://paste.ee/p/bJbx821:05
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evilrobtenant ID is right21:06
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jnc8651gotcha21:06
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jnc8651That looks about right21:06
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jnc8651try this21:07
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jnc8651grab a copy of my keystone creds file and replace the info with your username/password/keystone endpoint and try sourcing it in a new bash shell21:08
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jnc8651I dont have my tenant id being sourced21:08
jnc8651see if that works21:08
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jnc8651brb changing clients21:09
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evilrobok... I must have messed up the user-list command.  that first uuid above in the unauthorized log message DOES exist.  It's the cinder user.21:09
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jnc8651_ok21:10
jnc8651_back21:10
evilrobok... I must have messed up the user-list command.  that first uuid above in the unauthorized log message DOES exist.  It's the cinder user.21:10
jnc8651_Ah ok21:10
emrepretty crappy that i can't install openstack because of python errors21:10
jnc8651_that makes sense now21:10
evilrobso the cinder user doesn't have access to that tenant21:10
jnc8651_that would be correct, it will only have access to the cinder tenant21:10
jnc8651_@emre what guide are you following?21:10
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jnc8651_also what OS are you using?21:10
emrehttp://ubuntu-cloud-installer.readthedocs.org/en/latest/single-installer.guide.html#21:11
emreubuntu 14.04 LTS server headlesss21:11
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evilrobonly tenants I have are admin demo and service21:11
emrei can run devstack fine, but i want full openstack21:11
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emrethis is the full stacktrace:21:11
emre[ERROR: 07-20 16:09:09] Fatal error21:11
emreTraceback (most recent call last):21:11
emre  File "/usr/share/openstack/cloudinstall/install.py", line 157, in start21:11
emre    self.do_install()21:11
emre  File "/usr/share/openstack/cloudinstall/install.py", line 123, in do_install21:11
emre    self.loop, self.ui, self.config).run()21:11
emre  File "/usr/share/openstack/cloudinstall/single_install.py", line 417, in run21:12
emre    self.do_install()21:12
emre  File "/usr/share/openstack/cloudinstall/single_install.py", line 449, in do_install21:12
emre    self.create_container_and_wait()21:12
emre  File "/usr/share/openstack/cloudinstall/single_install.py", line 174, in create_container_and_wait21:12
emre    self.read_container_status)21:12
emreTypeError: start_task() takes 2 positional arguments but 3 were given21:12
jnc8651_@emre paste it in at http://paste.openstack.org/21:12
emrehttp://paste.openstack.org/show/392888/21:12
jnc8651_@evilrob what is your endgoal? Are you trying to list all volumes?21:12
evilrob"keystone user-role-add --user cinder --role admin --tenant admin" solved my problem21:13
jnc8651_@emre thats a super vague error, im also not familar with that install docs/install method21:14
jnc8651_I have followed http://docs.openstack.org/kilo/install-guide/install/apt/content/ with out issues21:14
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emrethe openstack kilo guide doesn't seem to have instructions for a single big box (20 cpu, 256 GB memory)21:15
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jnc8651_Oh nice box, that being said just install everything local. When it asks for controller ips and hostnames you will use the local server's ip or 127.0.0.721:15
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evilrobjnc8651_: thanks for helping me stumble through this.21:17
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evilrobwe should have just simplified our install and done a one-box install.  64 cores + 256GB memory21:18
evilrobbacked into 270TB of ceph.21:18
jnc8651_No worries. and TBH i dont suggest having a one box install. wierd stuff happens based on my experience21:18
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evilroboh good.  then we didn't complicate our lives needlessly :)21:19
jnc8651_:)21:19
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jnc8651_Dont get me wrong, it works great for a small lab21:19
jnc8651_but when it comes to scaling it out it can get quite confusing very quickly21:19
evilrobI'm having a different problem getting it to create a volume in ceph now, but that's a different problem.  I've seen this before.  I think it's file perms somewhere.21:20
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jnc8651_sweet21:21
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evilrobis there a way to make cinder default to os-volume-api-version 2 ??21:22
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evilrobI still get an error with the v1 protocol21:23
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jnc8651what version of cinder is it?21:23
jnc8651are you using*21:23
evilrob1.0.821:23
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evilrobcinder-api is 2014.2.321:24
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evilrobhow the fuck...  I have 2014.1.4 installed on my cinder node21:25
evilrobI'm going to beat someone21:25
jnc8651haha21:25
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jnc8651that is probably whats causing it21:25
jnc8651But dont worry it shouldnt break stuff. Im running the icehouse release of keystone and nova but cinder and glance are on the kilo version21:26
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jnc8651What errors are you getting?21:26
evilrob"ERROR: 'volumes'"21:26
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jnc8651thats it?21:26
evilrobyeah.  when I ran it in the python debugger last week (yeah, I drank a lot of scotch after that) it was because it was looking for a value in a hash with the key 'volumes' and that key wasn't returned.21:27
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jnc8651wierd, i havent seen that one before21:28
evilrobI'll gladly paste the --debug output if you want21:28
jnc8651Yeah that would be great21:28
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jnc8651make sure and sanitize it first though21:28
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evilrobnot a production cluster.  don't care really.  we're going to change passwords once it is21:29
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evilrobhttps://paste.ee/p/uY42421:30
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jnc8651Oh21:33
jnc8651I see whats going on21:33
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jnc8651on line 2421:33
jnc8651RESP BODY: {"choices": [{"status": "CURRENT", "media-types": [{"base": "application/xml", "type": "application/vnd.openstack.volume+xml;version=1"}, {"base": "application/json", "type": "application/vnd.openstack.volume+json;version=1"}], "id": "v2.0", "links": [{"href": "http://phl-controller-01.fabric:8776/v2/v1/4680107a78db4ac58a5880f95e95ee30/volumes/detail", "rel": "self"}]}]}21:33
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jnc8651you have /v2/v1/ in the request21:33
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jnc8651id check to see whats in the keystone catalog21:33
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evilrobI screwed up my endpoint creation21:34
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jnc8651eh21:34
jnc8651it happens21:34
jnc8651tbh21:34
jnc8651id probably just update the mysql endpoint and call it a day21:34
evilrobI redid that about an hour ago because the other guy had all of them pointed at v1 AND on the nova port21:34
jnc8651but the proper way is to delete it and recreate the endpoint21:34
evilrobyeah21:34
evilrobI tried tweaking the DB21:34
evilrobno joy21:34
jnc8651run keystone endpoint-list21:35
evilrobhttps://paste.ee/p/Tmx3h21:35
evilrobthose are the two cinder services21:36
jnc8651That looks about right21:36
evilrobclient package mismatch thing?21:36
evilrobit's easy enough to upgrade it.21:37
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evilrobcinder-common, cinder-volume, python-cinderclient?21:37
jnc8651yeah that sounds about right21:38
jnc8651Well21:38
evilrobonce I get the right bit in the apt sources21:38
jnc8651I have had good experience with using an newer client on an older software version21:39
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evilrobnow I just have to figure out the "something went wrong" with horizon21:46
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jnc8651So for that I would make requests of all of the endpoints you have indvidually and see what errors/breaks/times out21:47
evilrobI still have to specify the api version though21:47
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evilrobok21:47
jnc8651Thats wierd your clients are doing that when making the requests though21:47
jnc8651your endpoints are correct21:48
jnc8651http://i.imgur.com/UyQM66P.gif21:48
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evilrob^^^ that21:48
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evilrobalias cinder="cinder --os-volume-api-version 2"21:48
jnc8651Hmm21:48
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evilrobTA DA!21:48
evilrob:)21:48
jnc8651haha yeah that will work as well21:49
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evilrobI'm not to worried about that really.21:50
evilrobthe UI would be nice though.  Not that we cant do it all from the command-line, it's just a pain21:50
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evilrobit's a cinderclient version thing.  "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/cinderclient/v1/limits.py" is the second file in the from the error21:51
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jnc8651Ah it sounds like you may be hitting your api limit21:51
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evilrobyou think?  apache error log: https://paste.ee/p/dLiqf21:53
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evilrobgive the "cinder list" problem it seems VERY similar21:53
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jnc8651yeah it does21:55
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evilrobnow I just have to not fuck up my local_settings.py syntax21:56
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evilrobthat was it I think21:57
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evilrobjnc8651: I owe you beer21:57
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evilrobYou wouldn't by chance be in Austin, TX?21:58
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evilrobnow the only annoying thing is the two cinder volumes stuck in "creating"21:58
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evilroband that's taken care of21:59
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jnc8651I am!22:01
jnc8651In south austin TBH22:01
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evilrobwell if you want to drive for free beer, I'm doing the typical monday-night beer&cigars with friends at BB Rovers22:02
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Sam-I-Amjnc8651: heh, i used to live there22:03
evilrobSam-I-Am: I never did find you in vancouver.  I think I owe you beer too.22:03
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Sam-I-Amevilrob: a lot of people owe me beer haha22:04
evilrobnow I just have to solve my nova problem.  "no valid host" but that probably has more of a log trail to follow22:04
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Sam-I-Amprobably an image problem22:05
evilrobI've got cinder and glance working with ceph, not nova22:05
evilrobthat'll do it22:05
jnc8651Im down but i cant tonight. I already have plans22:06
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evilrobany monday.  ping me.22:06
jnc8651what does the nova scheduler say?22:06
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evilrobI'll make my boss buy. he usually comes too :)22:06
jnc8651and will do :)22:07
evilrobhttps://paste.ee/p/Zm2h822:08
evilrobmy nova host has nothing in it's logs.22:09
* evilrob bets it's screwed up endpoints again22:09
jnc8651Hmm22:09
jnc8651Can you try a build and then cat it again?22:09
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evilrob"Filter RetryFilter returned 0 hosts"22:11
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evilrobit's completely NOT backended into ceph where this image is.  nova is a different host22:11
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jnc8651is nova compute runnning22:11
jnc8651What happens when you run nova service-list?22:12
evilrobno actually... it isn't22:12
blizzowI have 11 hypervisors running ubuntu 15.04 with about 70 VMs among them using libvirt. I was thinking about running openstack to help manage all of this. I run a single 10GbE connection between my hypervisors but have a second unused 1GbE port on my hypervisors.  Is the 1GbE port sufficient to run the management/storage networks?22:12
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jnc8651@blizzow, yes and no22:12
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evilrobstate down22:12
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jnc8651It will eventually cause storage bottlenecks  and images will be slow to deploy if they go over the 1gb link22:13
jnc8651That would be it :)22:13
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jnc8651@evilrob ^^22:13
Sam-I-Amblizzow: 1 gb is fine for management, but dont use for vm or storage traffic22:13
blizzowjnc8651: won't the storage traffic contend pretty heavily with the networking for the VMs themselves?22:15
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jnc8651@blizzow yes, it depends on how much traffic your pushing though22:15
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jnc8651Id install and run bwm-ng to get an idea of your current network traffic22:15
jnc8651id also install and configure sysstat as well so you can get historical traffic patterns22:16
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Sam-I-Amfrankly 10 gb per box is going to require a LOT of vm and storage traffic22:17
Sam-I-Ammost workloads wont push that22:17
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evilrobnova-compute wouldn't start after I did the ceph integration because I didn't finish it.  more radosclient errors.  I know what to do with this (and yes, it might involve thermite)22:18
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jnc8651haha yes!22:19
jnc8651you gotta record that on youtube22:19
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evilrobwe have a shitpile of servers in PHL that we're wanting to thermite.22:20
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jnc8651If they make it to Austin ill be happy to provide a gopro to record it!22:22
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evilrobthat'll be a hell of a party22:22
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blizzowokay, so I should have 3x 10GbE ports per hypervisor before embarking on this mission?22:23
blizzowCrap, that's going to require a helluva switch.22:24
jnc8651@blizzow, you could get away with 1x 10GbE port and do vlan trunking22:24
jnc8651Thats kinda what im doing except im using 2x ports22:24
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evilrobnova.virt.libvirt.driver [-] [instance: ddd8ac56-1d47-4615-aef2-6fad74f75685] During wait destroy, instance disappeared.22:27
evilrobso clos!22:27
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evilrobhttps://paste.ee/p/Nh3Qo22:29
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evilrobinternal server error... hmmm.22:29
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jnc8651Im willing to bet it came from glance22:30
jnc8651what is in the glance logs?22:30
evilrobOperationalError: (OperationalError) (1040, 'Too many connections') None None22:31
evilrobmysql22:31
jnc8651I blame mysql22:31
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evilrobsomehow I have 33712 connections to my mysql server22:33
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jnc8651wow22:38
jnc8651that a shared mysql server?22:38
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evilrobno.  I shut it down and restarted it.22:42
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jnc8651ah ok22:42
evilrobnow I'm getting "unable to retrieve" for pretty much everything22:42
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jnc8651can you paste in part of the log?22:43
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jnc8651Also I need to head out in about 15min at the most22:45
evilrobkeystoneclient.middleware.auth_token [-] Invalid user token - rejecting request22:45
evilrobyou be around tomorrow? you've been extremely helpful22:45
jnc8651try bouncing keystone22:45
jnc8651Yes I will be :)22:45
jnc8651Ill be in no later then 10am22:45
jnc8651But ill probably show up around 9:30ish22:46
evilrobthis isn't a prod cluster.  take off.  I'll buy you beer & food next week :)22:46
evilrobseriously appreciate this22:46
jnc8651Glad to be of assistance!22:46
jnc8651and no worries, im working on our prod cluster right now haha22:46
evilrobI'll keep hacking at it until dinner time.22:46
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jnc8651Nice22:47
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evilrob"Failed to retrieve quota information" from apache error log.22:49
evilrobI probably need to go kick all the services on all the nodes22:50
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jnc8651Yeah, id bounce the services22:53
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jnc8651Usually the services recover quickly from a mysql outage but sometimes they need an extra little kick.22:54
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jnc8651Ok23:03
jnc8651im out23:03
jnc8651ill seeya tomorrow23:03
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evilrobnow I've got a CirrOS instance running backended into ceph.  I get "External source are not supported" when trying to us glance with --copy-from to create a new image (from apps.openstack.com)23:11
evilrobI'll tackle that tomorrow23:11
evilrobjnc8651: thanks again.  beer next week23:11
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evilroboh.  and the cirros instance doesn't have an IP.  that's probably a config thing. again.  tomorrow23:13
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MentalRayanyone running ceph as backend and experience with nova evacuate?23:19
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bitbltanyone bump into an issue when upgrading neutron from icehouse to juno? it keeps failing on trying to create a table called "routerroutes_mapping"23:22
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