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| jwitko | Sam-I-Am, so I got the external networks setup to match the vlans of my provider networks. However when adding subnets I was looking to carve out small ranges for different services, but they would all use the same gateway. But when I try to add a small subnet range for example 10.1.1.0/24, and the gateway is 10.1.0.1, it says gateway is out of range | 01:17 |
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| jwitko | can the gateway be set at the external network level? | 01:22 |
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| Sam-I-Am | jwitko: moo. | 02:12 |
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| Sam-I-Am | jwitko: 10.1.0.1 does not reside in 10.1.1.0/24 | 02:28 |
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| Andes | Hello | 02:58 |
| Andes | everyone | 02:58 |
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| Andes | can somebody help with me? I met errors when develop horizon externally | 02:59 |
| Andes | Recoverable error: Unable to establish connection to http://192.168.1.3:35357/v2.0/tenants | 02:59 |
| Andes | I don't know how to change to url to external IP | 02:59 |
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| Andes | ? | 03:31 |
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| jwitko | Sam-I-Am, I understand that. But I have a /20 which is already in use by my existing provider networks. A lot of IPs are already in use | 04:09 |
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| jwitko | so I’m trying to figure out how I allow access to the VLAN tagged network which is a /20, but disallow openstack from just choosing any IP on the entire /20. I want different services to choose from smaller subsets of the /20 but they still need to have the gateway which is 10.1.0.1 | 04:10 |
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| SamYaple | jwitko: you're approaching this wrong. you need to setup that netowrk as a /20 and only have a /24 worth of allocation range | 04:20 |
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| SamYaple | the network and broadcast addresses must match, but not all the ips need to be available for allocation | 04:21 |
| jwitko | SamYaple, thanks. I see what you’re saying but the problem is that I’m looking to support already existing subsets of that /20 | 04:22 |
| jwitko | so while I could allocate a /24 from openstack to select from | 04:22 |
| jwitko | there are other /24’s as well for other services | 04:22 |
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| SamYaple | other openstack services? | 04:23 |
| jwitko | and I could allocate all of them to the subnet allocations, but I don’t kjnow how to tell openstack “this VM goes to this range”, and “this VM goes from this range” | 04:23 |
| jwitko | no, services like webservers, databases, etc. | 04:23 |
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| SamYaple | jwitko: you can have multiple subnets in a neutron network, they _might_ be able to be overlapping (with different allocation range) | 04:24 |
| SamYaple | thats doutful but maybe | 04:24 |
| SamYaple | either way the /20 must be set up for the subnet | 04:24 |
| jwitko | SamYaple, multiple subnets yes. but none can share the same gateway | 04:25 |
| jwitko | in this case everything in the /20 uses the same gateway | 04:25 |
| jwitko | the subnets underneath the /20 are for classification and network gear ACLs | 04:25 |
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| jwitko | so while 10.10.1.0/24 is webservers, and 10.10.2.0/24 is databases, they both need 10.10.0.1 as their gateway | 04:25 |
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| jwitko | neutron does not allow subnets to share a gateway outside their subnet range | 04:26 |
| SamYaple | well no thats not what i mean. multiple as in specifying the /20 multiple times as a different subnet with different dhcp allocation ranges | 04:26 |
| SamYaple | jwitko: that gateway sanity check is a configurable option in the configs fyi | 04:26 |
| jwitko | SamYaple, oh? do you happen to know where i could read on that? or the config option and location? | 04:27 |
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| SamYaple | jwitko: uhhh its somewhere in neutron | 04:28 |
| SamYaple | lol sorry that doesnt help | 04:28 |
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| SamYaple | its in the [DEFAULT] section and i belive the option has gateway in the name | 04:28 |
| SamYaple | at the airport at the moment otherwise id look it up for oyu | 04:29 |
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| jwitko | thanks for the help | 04:42 |
| jwitko | have a safe flight :) | 04:42 |
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| jwitko | SamYaple, “Deprecated, to be removed during the | 04:52 |
| jwitko | # K release, at which point the check will be mandatory. | 04:52 |
| jwitko | # force_gateway_on_subnet = True” | 04:52 |
| jwitko | damn.. does that mean it doesn’t work because I’m on Kilo? | 04:52 |
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| jwitko | seems to work on Kilo, but I hesitate to make a setup using this when it will be deprecated soon | 05:16 |
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| jwitko | So now I have subnets attached to my VLAN tagged network. However through the dashboard I see no way to say “Spawn this instance within this subnet of network X” ?? | 05:20 |
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| utkarshn | I got a bug while building docs in cinder. I have filed it here(https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1479417) and have patch ready for it. I am not sure if I should submit the patch directly. Should I wait for someone to confirm the bug? | 07:25 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1479417 in Cinder "make for cinder doc creation fails" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Utkarsh Naiknaware (utkarsh-naiknaware) | 07:25 |
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| SamYaple | jwitko: you cant pick the subnet | 07:32 |
| SamYaple | you have to create the port you want in the subnet you want and then launch the instance with that port | 07:33 |
| SamYaple | youd have to extend the dashboard, you wont be able to do this through the dashboard | 07:33 |
| SamYaple | jwitko: wierd. dont know why they would deprecate/remove that option since it defaults to true and this has a use | 07:34 |
| SamYaple | ill check the L code and look around for the reason behind removing it | 07:34 |
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| ashishjain | Hello | 07:42 |
| ashishjain | I am using DockerInc::Docker::Container | 07:42 |
| ashishjain | what is the expected location for a docker image? Is it glance? | 07:42 |
| ashishjain | I get the following error heat.engine.resource APIError: 404 Client Error: Not Found ("No such image: httpd (tag: latest)") | 07:42 |
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| cosmo83 | Hi Everyone, Iam facing an issue with a wrong volume attached, if iam going through nova boot --block-de-block-device . Can anyone help me understand if nova boot (and then nova attach) is different from nova boot --block-device | 08:36 |
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| openstart | hey all | 09:48 |
| openstart | heloo all, i install openstack-juno-centos7 a multi-node(controller-network-compute). my question how to configure my firewall in each node. beacause when i start the firewall betwenn compute node and network node i can't ping the vms(instance) but when the fireewall is down the ping pass normaly any ideaa plz | 09:49 |
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| openstart | alo | 09:52 |
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| _nick | openstack: you'll need to disable your firewall or add in the appropriate rules so that traffic can pass | 10:30 |
| _nick | surely you've already come to that conclusion though | 10:31 |
| cosmo83 | Hi Everyone, Iam facing an issue with a wrong volume attached, if iam going through nova boot --block-de-block-device . Can anyone help me understand if nova boot (and then nova attach) is different from nova boot --block-device | 10:32 |
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| drawsmcgraw | Odd question -> Is there a config (Nova or otherwise) that adjusts the number of retries for a compute node when creating port via Neutron? | 14:35 |
| drawsmcgraw | I'm getting instance creation failures because the compute nodes, sporadically, fail to create a port and are throwing "Connection to neutron failed: Maximum attempts reached" | 14:36 |
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| diogogmt | does anybody know if there is a document listing the differenes between the glance and cinder v1 and v2 APIs? | 15:18 |
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| dasp | http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-image-v1.html | 15:19 |
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| franz_geiser | hi all, i have a question on a fresh install on centos 7, can anyone help me please? | 16:00 |
| franz_geiser | After telemetry module install, openstack-nova-api and openstack-nova-cert are not starting | 16:00 |
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| jwitko | Hey guys, does anyone have recommendations on dns management systems for openstack ? | 16:04 |
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| jwitko | Looking for a solid way to have VM names or hostnames automatically added into DNS ? | 16:05 |
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| evilrob | jwalcik: dhcp clients sending their hostnames back to the dhcp server who then puts it into dynamic DNS is a solved problem outside of openstack. Just have to sort out the params on the dnsmasq instance running on neutron node to send those off to a dyndns server somwhere | 16:24 |
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| jwitko | evilrob, was that meant for me? | 16:30 |
| evilrob | yes. autocomplete fail. | 16:30 |
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| Mike | Hi everyone - I'm trying to track down the requirement for Icehouse using SASLAUTHD | 17:21 |
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| Guest13205 | Does anyone have any insight as to what openstack services rely on sasldauthd? | 17:21 |
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| h0mer | can anyone tellme what the best way to gracefully bring down a bunch of machines in an openstack deployment? | 17:29 |
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| aschhabra | Hello everyone, | 17:56 |
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| Govind | can someone help me to install Horizon | 18:26 |
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| Govind | i tried this http://docs.openstack.org/kilo/install-guide/install/yum/content/install_dashboard.html | 18:27 |
| Govind | but when i try to access it's throwing error | 18:27 |
| Govind | Not Found The requested URL /dashboard was not found on this server. | 18:28 |
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| evilrob | wow the pacemaker/corosync install guides I've found are all non functional. has anyone a link for a decent guide? | 19:10 |
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| xbret | Anyone knows if it is posible to create an instance without launching it? I need to do some tweaks that can not be done at launch time. | 19:17 |
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| diogogmt | xbret: do you want something like create/run from docker? | 19:19 |
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| xbret | diogogmt, Not sure, just want to create it, so I can tweak its network addresses (through neutron), what can't be done once it is running. | 19:20 |
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| diogogmt | xbret: would a stop state be suficient? which state do you need to virtual machine to be in? | 19:21 |
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| xbret | diogogmt, It would if the stop were instant, but sometimes it takes longer than usual and it renders difficult to script when the stop call is non-blocking. | 19:23 |
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| xbret | Another guy did something hooking a script whenever a row is added to the instances table, but the hack is a bit ugly and falls out of the scope of my intent. | 19:26 |
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| diogogmt | xbret: you can always poll on the state of the instance before initiaitng your scripts | 19:28 |
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| xbret | diogogmt, Is there any blocking call for it? Or do I have to do it on a continuous basis with a delay until it stops? | 19:29 |
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| diogogmt | xbret: you need to keep polling the instance details api until your instance changes to your desired state | 19:30 |
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| xbret | diogogmt, I was affraid of that, but I will work on it counting on that other solution does not appear to be common knowledge. | 19:33 |
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| xbret | diogogmt, Thanks for your help :) | 19:33 |
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| diogogmt | xbret: np, bro | 19:45 |
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| drawsmcgraw | Anything that would cause Nova / Neutron to behave differently for different tenants? | 19:50 |
| drawsmcgraw | Instances are slow to create and half of them fail to create in tenant A. | 19:50 |
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| drawsmcgraw | But in tenant B, instances are created quickly and succeed 100% of the time. | 19:51 |
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| drawsmcgraw | When I investigate the failed instances, it always points to the compute nodes failing to create a Neutron port, saying "Connection to neutron failed: Maximum attempts reached" | 19:51 |
| drawsmcgraw | But again, there are *zero* problems with tenant B. | 19:51 |
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| drawsmcgraw | Just realized... this may be related to my Openstack having several "default" security groups | 19:54 |
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| number1 | I'm trying to configure live-migration using block-migration. The issue is that I'm unable to , I keep getting the following error "Live Migration failure: internal error: unable to execute QEMU command 'migrate': this feature or command is not currently supported" Anyone have this problem and know how to fix it? | 19:58 |
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| drawsmcgraw | nope. Each 'default' secgroup is for the tenants I've got in the cluster. So... | 20:09 |
| drawsmcgraw | Anyone ever seen Openstack treat tenants differently like how I described above? | 20:09 |
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| SamYaple | drawsmcgraw: lots and lots of ports in TenantA but not in TenantB, lots of chained secgroup rules in TenantA but not in TenantB | 20:22 |
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| SamYaple | sounds like you checked secgroups | 20:22 |
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| drawsmcgraw | SamYaple: Yeah I think the secgroups are sane | 20:22 |
| drawsmcgraw | And yes, tenant A does have more ports than B | 20:22 |
| SamYaple | what are some numbers? | 20:23 |
| drawsmcgraw | ....would that be related somehow? | 20:23 |
| drawsmcgraw | ~220'ish in A | 20:23 |
| drawsmcgraw | < 50 in B | 20:23 |
| drawsmcgraw | That's assuming one port per IP | 20:23 |
| drawsmcgraw | We configured Neutron to give routable IPs when instances come alive | 20:23 |
| drawsmcgraw | No floating IPs | 20:23 |
| SamYaple | i mean it sounds like you are overloading your communication to neutron somehow. the maximum attemps reached is trying to talk to the api | 20:24 |
| SamYaple | so check the neutron-server and database and logs around that | 20:24 |
| drawsmcgraw | I've been living in the neutron-server log. Nothing comes up in there. | 20:24 |
| SamYaple | if you see issues with "timed out waiting for message" then its rabbitmq | 20:24 |
| SamYaple | drawsmcgraw: with debug on? | 20:24 |
| drawsmcgraw | SamYaple: yes, with debug on, even. | 20:24 |
| drawsmcgraw | Though admittedly there's *a lot* that comes out of neutron-server with debug on | 20:25 |
| SamYaple | there are going to be errors somewhere drawsmcgraw | 20:25 |
| drawsmcgraw | OH! | 20:25 |
| SamYaple | and you should be able to grep for them with "ERROR" | 20:25 |
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| drawsmcgraw | The request IDs coming from the compute nodes... are never seen in neutron-server | 20:25 |
| drawsmcgraw | I can find the request ID of a successful instance creation, and find that ID in neutron-server logs | 20:25 |
| drawsmcgraw | But | 20:26 |
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| SamYaple | drawsmcgraw: do the tenants have seperate AZ? or are they running on the same computes | 20:26 |
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| drawsmcgraw | Same compute nodes | 20:26 |
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| drawsmcgraw | Failed request IDs never show up in the nuetron-server logs | 20:26 |
| drawsmcgraw | The request ID associated with a port create, that is. | 20:26 |
| drawsmcgraw | SamYaple: It really seems like sometimes, the port-create request just doesn't make it to neutron-server | 20:27 |
| SamYaple | drawsmcgraw: there are upper limits on connections. and the defaults are normally low | 20:27 |
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| drawsmcgraw | Would I find something like that in neutron.conf ? | 20:27 |
| drawsmcgraw | SamYaple: ping | 20:27 |
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| SamYaple | yea they'd be in neutron.conf | 20:28 |
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| SamYaple | it *might* be slow tlaking to teh DB, but then again i would expect it to log that | 20:28 |
| drawsmcgraw | Know any off the top of your head? :) I'm just searching for 'limit' right now | 20:28 |
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| SamYaple | number of api_workers | 20:28 |
| drawsmcgraw | Right... the really odd part is that things move swiftly and with zero errors in Tenant B... | 20:28 |
| drawsmcgraw | ok | 20:28 |
| SamYaple | and then max connections in the databse section | 20:29 |
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| SamYaple | yea we could be going down hte wrong path here its just the only suggestion i have for you at the moment | 20:29 |
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| drawsmcgraw | api_workers is currently 0 (so just one thread it looks like) | 20:29 |
| SamYaple | which version of openstack? | 20:29 |
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| SamYaple | 0 should default to the number of threads on the system (number of cores) | 20:30 |
| SamYaple | but i seem to recall a bug on that in juno and before | 20:30 |
| drawsmcgraw | Icehouse | 20:30 |
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| drawsmcgraw | I'm considering increasing the db pool from 10 to 20 | 20:30 |
| drawsmcgraw | (10 is the default) | 20:30 |
| SamYaple | thats totally safe | 20:30 |
| drawsmcgraw | k | 20:31 |
| SamYaple | we do 200 mostly | 20:31 |
| SamYaple | idk why the defaults so low | 20:31 |
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| drawsmcgraw | oh wow, okay | 20:31 |
| SamYaple | drawsmcgraw: is your system spawning more than one neutron-server pid? | 20:31 |
| SamYaple | if not then certainly change api_workers to equal the number of threads on your system | 20:32 |
| drawsmcgraw | SamYaple: no | 20:32 |
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| drawsmcgraw | Just the one (from ps -elf | grep neutron-server) | 20:32 |
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| SamYaple | well definetly change that | 20:32 |
| drawsmcgraw | Would that be the api_workers value? | 20:32 |
| SamYaple | yea | 20:33 |
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| drawsmcgraw | recommendations? 4? 8? | 20:33 |
| drawsmcgraw | I think this thing has.... 8 cores? | 20:33 |
| drawsmcgraw | 16 cores | 20:33 |
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| drawsmcgraw | SamYaple: I'll up to to just 4 for now | 20:33 |
| SamYaple | drawsmcgraw: it probably has 8 cores and 16 threads (multithreading) | 20:34 |
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| drawsmcgraw | SamYaple: Yeah that's more likely. | 20:34 |
| SamYaple | but upping it to 8 is compleetly safe | 20:34 |
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| drawsmcgraw | ok | 20:34 |
| SamYaple | all the other services probably spawn 8 or 16 threads | 20:34 |
| drawsmcgraw | ok | 20:35 |
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| SamYaple | bug you may want to read on this | 20:35 |
| SamYaple | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1382064 | 20:35 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1382064 in neutron kilo "Failure to allocate tunnel id when creating networks concurrently" [Undecided,New] | 20:35 |
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| SamYaple | seems like its fixed in kilo | 20:35 |
| drawsmcgraw | ok | 20:35 |
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| SamYaple | its an issue you may run into | 20:35 |
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| drawsmcgraw | er.... | 20:37 |
| drawsmcgraw | I'm hesitant to say... but that may have worked SamYaple | 20:37 |
| drawsmcgraw | Tenant A gets First Rate Citizen treatment again | 20:37 |
| SamYaple | i did a thing | 20:37 |
| SamYaple | woo | 20:37 |
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| drawsmcgraw | Thank you SamYaple! I've never used a system that grew to a point where I had to consider adjusting default values to accomodate for size | 20:38 |
| drawsmcgraw | (for posterity, I'm at 24 compute nodes) | 20:38 |
| SamYaple | i think the defaults need to change to be honest with you | 20:38 |
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| SamYaple | but then again i dont think anyone is fighting me on that | 20:38 |
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| drawsmcgraw | Yeah.... After some reading, it almost sounds like getting things changed in Openstack is like getting things changed in Congress/Parliament | 20:39 |
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| drawsmcgraw | Anyway. I may actually get my evening today! Thanks again SamYaple. | 20:39 |
| SamYaple | quite the opposite, change happens quickly! but theres alot to change and so little time | 20:39 |
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| drawsmcgraw | Ah. Interesting.... | 20:41 |
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| Sam-I-Am | KaZeR: moo | 21:41 |
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| KaZeR | howdy Sam-I-Am! | 21:41 |
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| Sam-I-Am | long time no see | 21:42 |
| KaZeR | yeah indeed | 21:42 |
| KaZeR | Sam-I-Am: we submitted a few talks for the next summit : https://www.openstack.org/summit/tokyo-2015/vote-for-speakers/Presentation/6590 https://www.openstack.org/summit/tokyo-2015/vote-for-speakers/Presentation/6594 https://www.openstack.org/summit/tokyo-2015/vote-for-speakers/Presentation/6571 https://www.openstack.org/summit/tokyo-2015/vote-for-speakers/Presentation/6576 in case you want to vote... | 21:42 |
| KaZeR | we just got a go to buy more hardware to move more production traffic | 21:42 |
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| KaZeR | good opportunity to say a big thanks again for your help! | 21:43 |
| evilrob | if I boot my controller box, the nova-cert and nova-scheduler services don't come up. seems to be an ordering thing. Has anyone else seen this? | 21:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | KaZeR: cool, so that means progress? | 21:44 |
| KaZeR | definitely. the last few months have been quite intense, but we submitted the results last friday to the big boss, and he was satisfied | 21:44 |
| KaZeR | i can have a social life again \o/ ;) | 21:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | dont worry, it wont last | 21:45 |
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| KaZeR | hahaha :) | 21:46 |
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| evilrob | trying to make networking not have a single point of failure (the neutron box). Granted I'm very new to this, but the way I understand it is that the network connection is tunneled through ovs from a compute node to the network node. I've had nonfunctional ports listed in "ovs-vsctl show" before and things still worked. What would happen if I had 2 corrected tunnels listed there? When one went down would it eventual | 22:08 |
| evilrob | ly wake up and start using the other? | 22:08 |
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| Sam-I-Am | evilrob: wat? | 22:09 |
| evilrob | (yes sam, I know OSAD... use it) but I've been going down the pacemaker rabbit hole and thought about this | 22:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | evilrob: the nova-cert and nova-scheduler thing is (or was) a known issue with juno on ubuntu | 22:09 |
| * evilrob is likely talking out his ass, but he's brainfried too | 22:10 | |
| evilrob | yeah, forget that. fixed it with upstart dependancies | 22:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | if you do things behind/under openstack, ymmv | 22:10 |
| evilrob | so when I was debugging my l2 plugin issue I ended up with 3 pairs of addresses listed under Bridge br-tun. Only one of them works. | 22:11 |
| evilrob | what if two of them worked? | 22:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | openstack only knows about one of the pairs, right? | 22:12 |
| evilrob | https://paste.ee/p/OZ4lG is what i've got. | 22:12 |
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| evilrob | each end of the l2 plugin config knows about it's end. the ovs-vsctl commands run during setup tell ovs about the bridge to set up | 22:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | ovs 2.0.2? | 22:13 |
| evilrob | was at the end. not part of that bridge | 22:14 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah, i dont really know what all might happen here | 22:14 |
| Sam-I-Am | but you should avoid ovs 2.0.2 :) | 22:14 |
| evilrob | really? that's what I got out of the box with my juno install | 22:15 |
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| evilrob | I'll play with the idea I have kicking around in my head. if I make it work, I'll write it up for discussion here. | 22:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | sure, go for it | 22:16 |
| evilrob | but now I need to sort out upgrading ovs. (thanks for that little hot coal in my lap) | 22:16 |
| evilrob | is there a suggested version with juno? | 22:17 |
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| Sam-I-Am | at least 2.1 for anything, ideally 2.3 | 22:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | 2.0 is a mess | 22:18 |
| evilrob | I see 2.3.2 is latest, and I also see 2.0.2 is not available for download (though 2.0.1 is) | 22:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | the cloud archive repo for kilo has 2.3 | 22:18 |
| evilrob | ok, I'll see about swapping it out tomorrow and then go down this other rabbit hole | 22:18 |
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| Sam-I-Am | also, unless you absolutely need ovs, there are other options :) | 22:18 |
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| evilrob | hey... I just followed the docs some dude wrote :P | 22:19 |
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| Sam-I-Am | haha | 22:19 |
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| Sam-I-Am | well, ovs is going away in the install guide for liberty | 22:19 |
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| evilrob | to be replaced with? | 22:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | linuxbridge agent | 22:20 |
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| evilrob | also... you mentioned once provider networks. putting a br-ex on compute nodes. I'd like to read more about that. (unless I confused 2 things in my memory) | 22:22 |
| evilrob | google found this for me http://docs.openstack.org/networking-guide/deploy_scenario4b.html | 22:22 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yeah that's one of the provider networks options | 22:23 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i'm not sure if we talked about this, but what exactly do you want out of cloud networking? | 22:23 |
| evilrob | with a br-ex on each compute node that would solve my concerns too I think. | 22:23 |
| evilrob | we didn't. and I'm not going to tell you because I'm a whiney bitch | 22:23 |
| evilrob | oh wait. | 22:23 |
| evilrob | :) | 22:24 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yeah, i'm thinking you might find a hybrid model beneficial | 22:24 |
| evilrob | prod datacenter running several support services for a backend operation that runs on metal. | 22:24 |
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| Sam-I-Am | put a br-ex on each compute node for vms that need direct connectivity to physical networks... and use tunnels for intra-project networks | 22:25 |
| evilrob | right now, we're just wanting to run the support service bits in OS, but they'd need to be up with the same reliability of the external network | 22:25 |
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| evilrob | ok. so every VM we'd run would run against the external net with few exceptions (can't think of but a couple). | 22:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | sounds like you want provider networks | 22:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | in which case none of this tunneling business matters | 22:26 |
| evilrob | yeah | 22:27 |
| klazzarus | I'm trying to see what are the cloud solutions out there. I have seen openstack and onapp. I can see most of the people are using openstack. | 22:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | evilrob: so, scenario 4b is something to look at | 22:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | its stupidly easy to implement | 22:27 |
| evilrob | good. because I'm stupid and I'm easy (just ask my wife) | 22:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | if you mix it with scenario 1b, you can have project/internal tunnel/vlan networks too | 22:28 |
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| evilrob | excellent. | 22:29 |
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| evilrob | I'll read through it tonight and rip into it tomorrow. Looks way simpler than setting up corosync and pacemaker | 22:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | uhhh yeah | 22:30 |
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| Sam-I-Am | your liver will appreciate it | 22:30 |
| evilrob | but what about the poor girl at the liquor store? | 22:30 |
| evilrob | she'll get lonely | 22:30 |
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| Sam-I-Am | haha | 22:30 |
| Sam-I-Am | drink lighter beer | 22:30 |
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