Monday, 2015-08-03

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h0meranyone here know where i can find a tutorial or good starting point for OSAD?01:05
SamYapleh0mer: sure https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStackAnsible01:06
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SamYaplealso checkout Kolla if you are into containerized openstack01:06
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h0merty sir.  still trying to wrap my head around how to set up the networking architecture for an osad deployment01:12
SamYapleh0mer: I can give you some pointers if you'd like. It is my job afterall01:13
SamYapleany question in particular?01:13
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h0merSure.  So I need help with setting up my physical network layout.  So currently I have 8 nodes (dell r610's and dl380 g7's) with 4 nics each... Each nic is connected to a cisco switch that partitions out each nic to a differnt VLAN (untagged).01:14
h0merthis is what i've used for a ubuntu/landscape/juju openstack deployment.  Is this sufficient for osad?01:15
SamYapleso essentially 4 vlans, but the server is unaware of any of them?01:15
h0meri don't understand what you mean by the server is unaware of any of them01:16
h0merwhich server would that be?01:16
SamYaplesince the tagging happens on the switch rather than packet before it leaves the node01:16
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h0meroh yes, in that sense yep.  The machines know nothing about the vlan tag.. the switch does it on the traffic coming through the port01:16
SamYaplethat should be fine, but youll need to setup a flat network in openstack, rather than a vlan tagged one (techinically it should just strip the tag, but to be safe youl lwant a flat network)01:18
SamYapleOSAD *should* support flat networks, let me confirm01:18
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SamYapleyoure deploying from the kilo branch, yes h0mer?01:18
h0meryes01:18
SamYapleyea youll be able to setup flat networks01:19
h0meralright thank you.  Next question.. How mnay nodes do I require?  I have two dell r210's that i use for maas and landscape currently.  I was hoping to keep the maas on in tact (so I can deploy ubuntu to all my machines with a click of a button) and use the second r210 as a deployment node.01:22
SamYaplefor kilo, the recommended is 3 "infra" nodes (running your controller type services) and n number of computes01:22
SamYaplebut technically you only need one node01:22
SamYaplefor galera and quorum I would not recommend less than 3 nodes01:23
h0mersounds good.  next question.  Do I need to set up all 4 nic interfaces in ubuntu?  And if so, do i need to set up the routing table to route traffic through a single gateway for all 4 nics?01:24
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SamYapleyou only _need_ 2 interfaces I believe01:25
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SamYaplefor the container/management net and then an interface for neutron01:25
SamYaplethose can techinically be the same but since you are using flat networks I would nt recommend it01:26
SamYaplealso with flat networks you can only have 1 external/provider network per interface fyi01:26
SamYapleyou can have any number of tenant networks01:26
h0merhaving said that, do i still need to set up gateway routing between the two nic01:27
h0mers in ubuntu?01:27
h0merbecause each vlan has a different gateway01:27
SamYaplewell for the neutron interface, thats all going to be L201:27
SamYaplefor the contaienr/managment stuff, yes that will need to be able to talk to the internet01:28
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SamYaplethe two networks do not and should not communicate01:28
h0merso each nic should not be able to talk to each other... so inter-vlan off?01:28
h0meri meant network not nic01:29
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SamYapleI would recommend that. the container net is assumed to be secured and should not be accessible by any device you do not also implicitly trust01:29
SamYapleit is running services like memcached which have no auth01:29
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h0merso eth0 - 192.168.20.x, eth1 - 192.168.30.x     (btw .20 is vlan-20 and .30 is vlan-30).  So I will set up both interfaces and point them to their own gateway/dns servers.  Now, do either networks need DHCP set up?  Or does the OSAD deployement come with a built-in dhcp?01:31
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SamYapleOSAD manages container ips only. It does provide dhcp in a sense (its a static assignment), but again for containers only. the host setup is up to the deployer01:33
SamYapleI may have to drop off in a few minutes fyi01:33
h0meralright cool.  I'm gonna get started with this shortly.  Thanks for the help.  Any chance you'd be on later this week?01:34
h0merjust in case i run into any issues?01:35
SamYapleim always on01:35
SamYaplealso checkout the #openstack-ansible channel01:35
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h0merbtw what was that kolla thing you mentioned earlier?01:35
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h0meran lxc container or docker?01:35
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SamYapledocker01:35
h0mercool, last question, is there any limitations to the osad openstak deployment?01:36
SamYapleIf you need something to work _right_ _now_ you should probably stick with OSAD as Kolla won't have its first stable release until Liberty01:36
SamYapleh0mer: define limitations. all deployments have limitations01:36
h0merthe ubuntu one limits number of vcpu's and memory01:36
h0merand storage01:36
SamYaplethere are no caps on anything you can use with OSAD, just things OSAD doesn't support you doing01:37
h0merthat's what i meant by limitations.  Thank you.  Btw do you work at rackspace?01:37
SamYaplei do01:37
h0merAlong with matt?01:37
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SamYapleyup01:38
SamYaplein the same dept at least01:38
SamYapleim 3rd shift we dont interact alot01:38
h0merah gotcha.  he was helping me last week.  Great guy01:38
SamYapleindeed01:38
SamYaplethough he is a name stealer01:38
h0merlol01:38
h0meralright ty, im gonna tear down my current deployement and get started with osad01:39
SamYaplegood deal01:39
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* evilrob intended to play with OSAD last week but got distracted by provider networks03:44
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* evilrob didn't get scenerio 4b working. I know what I'm doing tomorrow.03:45
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Sam-I-Amevilrob: moo.03:51
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NightKhaosWhy can I not set a network gateway on a non-external network? Even if I'm an Admin and know what I am doing? So basically, in order to fit my use case right now I either have to use expensive public addresses, provide an external network a co-hosted client might "accidently" put a router on, or wait for RBAC to be implemented?05:43
SamYapleNightKhaos: I am unsure what you are saying you cannot do.05:44
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SamYapleAdditionally, you "external" network doesn't have to have public ips. Lots of places will do a double-nat type situation and 1:1 map public ips to the "external" net addresses05:45
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NightKhaosSamYaple: No that isn't the problem. Sorry. Let me explain.05:45
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NightKhaosSamYaple: I have a public range, and a couple of private ranges.05:46
NightKhaosSamYaple: The public range is an external network, that's fine.05:46
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NightKhaosSamYaple: Most of the private ranges will be used for routable vlan provider networks. Also fine.05:46
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NightKhaosSamYaple: However, I would also like the capability to create "prod like development network", which is using floating IPs on a private range. But this set MUST be restricted to a subset of tenants.05:47
NightKhaosSamYaple: I could solve this problem if I could assign floatings from a non-external network, or if RBAC was implemented. My only other option for this use case is to use the public range, which I only have a /26 for.05:48
SamYapleNightKhaos: can you not setup an external network with private ips? What would be the issue with that?05:49
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NightKhaosSamYaple: But this set MUST be restricted to a subset of tenants.05:49
SamYapleah i see. there isnt very good control over the external because of the wierdness with it always being 'shared'05:50
SamYaplei thought there was some progress on that in Kilo05:50
SamYaplelet me check05:50
NightKhaosSamYaple: Exactly. RBAC will fix this, slated for Liberty AFAICT, but there isn't a solution for Kilo. Unless you can find something I don't know.05:51
SamYapleNightKhaos: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/sharing-model-for-external-networks05:51
SamYaplelooks like it was abandonded in Kilo05:51
NightKhaosSamYaple: Yep, it's in master, i.e. Liberty, by the looks of it.05:51
SamYaple:/ yea i dont know of a solution for you then05:51
SamYapleyou could do an external and allocate all the ips to your tenants05:52
NightKhaosSamYaple: It's okay. I guess saying "feature not avaliable for 6 months" will be acceptable if I provide evidence. I hope they don't ask me to backport RBAC into Kilo through. :(05:52
SamYaplethat way there is nothing left for the other tenants to grab, accidentally or not05:53
SamYapletheyll still see the net though05:53
NightKhaosSamYaple: Hmm. Interesting idea. Unfortunately the amount of internal projects/tenants is not fixed.05:54
SamYapleexternal private network per internal project that allocates all ips05:54
SamYaplethen youll end up with alot of externals, but again they wont be usable05:55
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NightKhaosSamYaple: Interesting hack. I think I can work with it. Thanks. Still, RBAC would be MUCH better.05:55
SamYaplego backport it then :P05:56
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NightKhaosSamYaple: Doesn't even look complete in Liberty, I'd have to finish it, test it, then backport it. I don't have the time! :P05:56
SamYaplethats quiter talk05:56
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NightKhaosSamYaple: Lend me your TARDUS and I'll finish it last week.06:00
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SamYapleI gave mine back to bill and ted06:01
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tobasconova generates perfect log messages for each request which i can parse for request id and all that stuff, however for example keystone and cinder generates log messages more compareable to apache2 access logs...06:48
tobascoanybody know how to fix?06:48
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SamYapletobasco: which version of openstack07:05
SamYapleas things start moving toward the oslo libraries i imagine that wil standardize07:06
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tobascoSamYaple: kilo07:06
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tobascoSamYaple: will i have to do a lot of stuff i logging.conf manually or can it be fixed easily or how would you propose I go at it?07:07
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SamYapletobasco: i doubt there is an easy fix. logging.conf would be the place to adjust these things07:08
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tobascoSamYaple: i was afraid that was the case, nova spits out perfect ones so i'll try just use the nova logging.conf and try to se if I can get it done :[07:09
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SamYapletobasco: let me know! im about to start doing centralized logging for the Kolla project so ill be neck deep in that next week07:10
tobascoSamYaple: sure thing07:11
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tobascoanybody having experience with rabbitmq clusters? i'm running 3 nodes clustered where i mirror all queues on all nodes, i have tried some integrations with openstack 1) where i run haproxy infront of these and use sticky sessions 2) setting rabbitmq_hosts tuple in configuration files. What I have noticed is that when using #1 you must set the client and server timeout in haproxy to like 48hours to preve08:13
tobascont timeouts, however when those 48hours expire it's possible that the connection is lost and you'll have to restart your services, when running #2 I have noticed that it takes a long time for the services to fail over to the second node and also some services completely fail to fail over... what is the best way to run rabbitmq?08:13
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scacereshello, how can I get an instance's metadata? Can it be done by using the nova cli?08:16
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cooldharma06hi all09:12
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cooldharma06how to change my python version in openstack or openstack client?09:12
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cooldharma06default its using 2.7 but i want to check some features in openstackclient which will work in python3 suggest some way to change my python version09:16
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cooldharma06how to use api's of openstackclient api version 309:52
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cooldharma06i found by setting in openrc file10:00
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cgiraldoI need some support for the metadata agent in a neutron network. Is this the correct place to ask? Thanks12:48
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jschwarzcgiraldo, either here or #openstack-neutron13:00
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petanhi I tried that devstack thing in my VM, but I can't figure out what the default username for interface is? It asked me only for passwords during setup13:03
petannow I can access web interface but have no idea what username should I use13:03
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KasDevI need so help posting a question to : https://ask.openstack.org/en/questions/. Whenever I try to log-in I get this error: Invalid openid.mode: ''13:19
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KasDevanyone?13:20
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cgiraldoi fixed my metadata problem. It was related with the ubuntu cloud image I used: https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-init/+bug/1315501 .  thank you anyway :)13:25
openstackLaunchpad bug 1315501 in cloud-init (Ubuntu) "cloud-init does not use interfaces.d in trusty" [High,Confirmed]13:25
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: The Gerrit service on review.openstack.org has been restarted in an attempt to improve performance.13:39
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andrewbogottI need to modify my nova-network config and could use a bit of hand-holding.  Is anyone around who still remembers how that works?14:00
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rmstarhi guys.  does anyone know if there is a way to create a rule that tells nova scheduler not to allocate any VM on a specific compute node if it has more than X Gb or ram?14:50
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volga629Hell Everyone, getting puppet error http://fpaste.org/251028/13510143/ on installation with packstack, any help thank you. I tried use answer file, but can't determine which var is in question14:53
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s3anrmstar: I think you can filter on flavors15:06
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prometheanfirehas anyone tested running multiple arches in the same 'cell' within nova?15:23
prometheanfirehave an arm64 box and really don't want to make a new cell/region for it15:23
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SamYapleprometheanfire: i think the issue is still going to come down to scheduling15:37
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SamYapledifferent AZ and you should be fine15:37
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SamYapleI suppose glance tags would also work15:37
prometheanfireSamYaple: ya, that's what I'm worried about15:37
prometheanfireSamYaple: glance does support specifying the arch as a5715:37
prometheanfirewould be nice to have a generic like arm64 though15:38
prometheanfireor armv815:38
SamYapleyou can do custom tags15:38
prometheanfirehow would that get scheduled?15:38
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SamYaplei forget but i looked into this in juno and you _can- get custom tags to get figured into the scheduler, or a custom scheduler15:38
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SamYaplebut the easist would be a small source deviation for the filter15:39
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rodr1goI have followed this tutorial http://dohuyhoang.github.io/openstack/ovh/neutron/2014/07/07/Configure-OpenStack-network-on-OVH.html and everything seems to be working fine except that i can not ping the floating ip from another machine, however i can ping both ips from the namespaced router and I can actually ping the router as well but not the floating ip15:40
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prometheanfireSamYaple: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/devref/filter_scheduler.html15:40
rmstars3an: thanks.  i was looking into filter, but i think i found a simpler solution for my scenario.  The reason why I wanted to do this is because for compute service is installed on the controller, so a lot of the ram is used up, but openstack does not see that.  I believe if i adjust reserved_host_memory_mb, it should solve my problem. :)15:41
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rmstarjust to let you guys know...that did the trick! :)16:02
evilrobSam-I-Am: moo16:03
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Sam-I-Amevilrob: mooooo16:21
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evilrobyeah... so 4b may be stupid simple, but clearly I'm stupider/more-simple16:21
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evilrobfriday afternoon, I configured, reconfigured, and still couldn't deploy a VM.  so either I did something wrong, missed a step (also doing something wrong), or am misunderstanding something16:23
evilrobcontroller neutron.conf http://paste.openstack.org/show/406640/ ml2_conf.ini http://paste.openstack.org/show/406642/16:24
evilrobcompute neutron.conf http://paste.openstack.org/show/406641/ and ml2_conf.ini http://paste.openstack.org/show/406643/16:24
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Sam-I-Amhmmm16:26
Sam-I-Amlooking16:26
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evilrobI tried to unconfigure bits I configured for tenant networks and leave sane defaults in place.  I get the qdhcp namespace on the controller, but nothing on the compute node.16:38
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Sam-I-Amif you make a change like this, its easiest to drop/recreate the neutron db16:38
evilrobthere's the misunderstanding part.16:39
evilrobor the missing step.16:39
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Sam-I-Amwhat error are you getting?16:39
evilrobfighting production fire at the moment though.16:39
Sam-I-Amthats what i'm missing16:40
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Sam-I-Amthe config looks ok from a neutron standpoint16:40
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evilrobinstance boot gives a "no valid host".  "brctl show" gives me no bridges at the moment one either controller or compute. (restarted the linuxbridge agents already)16:40
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Sam-I-Amany logs from the linux bridge agent?16:42
Sam-I-Amalso, is this a cirros image or something otherwise simple?16:42
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evilrobcirros16:43
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evilrobwaiting for somethign else to un-break in prod before I go un-break my thing.16:43
evilrobI'll look at logs meantime16:44
Sam-I-Amok16:44
Sam-I-Ami'd also like to see your networks and how you're launching the vm16:44
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evilrob"Agent out of sync with plugin" on linuxbridge agent startup16:45
Sam-I-Amthats pretty normal16:45
evilrobDEBUG neutron.common.rpc [-] neutron.agent.rpc.PluginReportStateAPI method cast called with arguments (<neutron.context.ContextBase object at 0x7f3ee643b210>, {'args': {'agent_state': {'agent_state': {'binary': 'neutron-linuxbridge-agent', 'start_flag': True, 'topic': 'N/A', 'host': 'phl-controller-01', 'agent_type': 'Linux bridge agent', 'configurations': {'interface_mappings': {'provider': 'p20p2'}, 'devices': 0}}}, '16:45
evilrobtime': '2015-08-03T16:44:49.708786'}, 'namespace': None, 'method': 'report_state'}) {} wrapper /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/neutron/common/log.py:3316:45
evilrob(controller side)16:46
Sam-I-Amoh, you probably dont need debug mode on, just verbose16:46
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Sam-I-Amdebug will be difficult to parse16:46
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evilrobcompute node linuxbridge agent can't talk to rabbitmq.16:49
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evilrobsilly me... I installed new packages and didn't look for new logfiles16:50
Sam-I-Amheh16:50
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Sam-I-Amwhy isnt the rabbit connection working?16:51
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evilrobI didn't pull my test boxen from the list of hosts that get auto-updates to hosts files.  Nor did I put them in the hosts file that we push.  They're test boxen.16:52
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evilroband because they're not in the hosts file, neither are they in DNS16:52
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evilrobI'm being sloppy, and it's making you beer16:52
evilrobI mean busy16:52
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Sam-I-Amdid someone say beer?16:53
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evilrobanytime you're in town... just let me know.  How did your flight go? Uneventful I hope?16:54
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Sam-I-Amuneventful... got back 30 minutes before the storms hit in denver16:55
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evilrobgood timing16:56
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Sam-I-Amyeah, it got really bad here... unforecast, of course16:56
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evilrobit's not like meteorology is a science... oh wait...16:57
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Sam-I-Ami want a job where i can be wrong all of the time16:58
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Sam-I-Amalthough with openstack sometimes its a miracle it works :)16:58
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evilrobwell my m1.tiny CirrOS instance is ACTIVE.  can't ping it, but I'll check security groups and all that16:59
Sam-I-Amneed to schedule my next visit that way... probably sep-oct, dependent on weather and aircraft though16:59
Sam-I-Amthe rule is 'time to spare, go by air'16:59
Sam-I-Amnothing ever goes as planned16:59
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Sam-I-Amnot even close16:59
Sam-I-Amevilrob: yeah, check secgroups, then look at the bridge stuff17:00
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evilrobI should probably go kill the neutron table, recreate it, and re-do basic config.  I'm getting things in horizon like "can't connect to neutron" and "can't retrieve floating IPs"17:03
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evilrobinstance didn't get an IP.17:04
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evilrob"brctl show" gives me the same bridge name, on each side, 2 different bridge IDs STP not enabled, the same interface on the first line, second interface different between the two boxen17:06
CTWillis there a way to add the termination script used in the gui?17:06
Sam-I-Amevilrob: horizon wont work without the 'routing' service_plugin iirc17:06
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Sam-I-Amhow did you create the network?17:06
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Sam-I-Amevilrob: i think you can add 'routing' and get horizon to work even without deploying l3 agents (but dont quote me)_17:07
evilrobI did a neutron net-create (copy/paste) from the 4b doc17:08
evilrob101 is even the correct vlan ID for us17:08
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Sam-I-Amok, so you see a bridge with a .100 on it?17:14
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evilrob.10117:14
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evilroband inside the qdhcp context, interface has the right address (range starts at .200, it has .201)17:15
evilrobs/context/namespace/17:15
Sam-I-Amok17:16
Sam-I-Amcan you ping the dhcp ip?17:16
evilrobcontroller and compute have that interface un-numbered, but can NOT ping it from elsewhere17:17
Sam-I-Amthe ip would be in a namespace17:18
Sam-I-Amyou see the qdhcp namespace, right?17:18
evilrobonly on the controller17:18
Sam-I-Ammakes sense17:18
Sam-I-Amthe compute node should just have a bridge17:19
evilrobyes.17:19
Sam-I-Amthe dhcp ip address should be on an interface in the qdhcp ns17:20
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evilrobSam-I-Am: it is17:23
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evilrobhttp://paste.openstack.org/show/406778/17:24
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evilrobhmmm... can't ping default route inside that namespace.17:29
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Sam-I-Amdefault route on that network... something sitting on a router?17:38
Sam-I-Am(physical router)17:38
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evilrobyeah.  so the interface is unnumbered, but connected to the switch.  The route inside the namespace is to the ip of the physical router, but doesn't ping from inside the namespace.17:40
evilrobthough when I set this all up for tenant networks last week I had it working fine.17:41
Sam-I-Amif you tcpdump on the host interface, do you see tagged frames?17:41
evilrobshould I go drop the neutron DB, recreate it and start over?  will that be cleaner, or should we find the problem here first?17:41
Sam-I-Amnot sure thats the problem right now17:42
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evilrobtcpdump shows ARPs for the right network coming across that interface.  I see a bunch of ways with tcpdump to see vlan tags.  appending "vlan 101" to the command shows me no frames17:47
Sam-I-Amuse -e17:48
evilrobyup.  vlan 10117:48
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Sam-I-Amand your switchport is passing those to the router?17:50
evilrobit was last week.17:50
Sam-I-Ampre-beer?17:50
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evilrobI could re-number that interface and check17:51
evilrobyes17:51
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evilrobrenumbered interface pings default just fine17:52
nerd1701Anyone around?17:52
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nerd1701Having some issues with getting Juno - Neutron working.17:52
evilrobdepends... do you need someone with a clue?17:52
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nerd1701Everything starts up find, but cannot connect to tenant router17:52
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nerd1701GRE tunnel is connected17:53
nerd1701Can see DHCP requests crossing the tunnel, but no response17:53
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evilrobyou have a qdhcp namespace?17:54
nerd1701Yes17:54
evilroband the right IP assigned inside that namespace?17:54
nerd1701I did ip netns exec <qrouter> tcpdump -enl and see nothing.17:55
nerd1701Let me check that.17:55
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evilrobI had a similar problem last week and my issue was with the gre tunnel.  the troubleshooting is similar though.17:58
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nerd1701The GRE tunnel is up.   I did a tcpdump on the link and see the DHCP requests17:58
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nerd1701ran ifconifg against the qdhcp namespcace - It shows a 127.0.0;1 and 192.168.1.3 - The VM is supposed to have 192.168.1.217:59
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nerd1701qrouter shows 192.168.1.1 and the external IP.   FYI - The external IP on the router is pingable18:00
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nerd1701I can ping 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.1.3 from the dhcp namespace, but not 192.168.1.218:01
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nerd1701Looking at the flows on the OVS br-tun, it appears something is wrong there (the segmenation_id is 1)  [root@neutron ~]# ovs-ofctl dump-flows br-tun | grep 0x1  cookie=0x0, duration=3553.900s, table=3, n_packets=0, n_bytes=0, idle_age=3553, priority=1,tun_id=0x1 actions=mod_vlan_vid:2,resubmit(,10)  cookie=0x0, duration=3554.071s, table=22, n_packets=2, n_bytes=140, idle_age=3316, dl_vlan=2 actions=strip_vlan,set_tunnel:0x1,output:18:02
evilroblogging into the console on your .2 instance and running the dhcp client by hand.  does that show dhcp in tcpdump inside your qdhcp namestapce?18:02
Sam-I-Amdhcp responses making it back to the compute node?18:03
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nerd1701Not seeing any response from the DHCP18:03
* evilrob is trying to help, but I'm just another noob18:03
nerd1701Not seeing any traffic in the dhcp namespace when running tcpdump18:03
Sam-I-Amno responses even from the namespace?18:03
nerd1701Nope18:04
nerd1701I appreciate your help.   Those were good things to check :)18:04
Sam-I-Amdo you see dhcp reqs in the gre tunnel?18:04
nerd1701Yes on both sides18:04
nerd1701I tried setting up 2 VMs and setting their IP addresses manually.   Could not ping between them.18:04
Sam-I-Ambut not on the .3 interface in the namespace?18:05
nerd1701I think there is something wrong in the OVS tables18:05
Sam-I-Amyou shouldnt need to mess with those manually18:05
nerd1701ip netns exec <qdchp> tcpdump shows nothing18:05
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Sam-I-Amyou'd need to tcpdump on the interface in there18:05
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nerd1701The Local or the 192.168.1.3?18:06
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Sam-I-Am.318:07
jwitkoHey Guys, I have some instances that I am unable to delete.  Can anyone help me investigate why?  I create the instances to boot off a volume snapshot.  That fails and the instance enters the state of Error.  At this point I can not reset-state (tried as admin user) and I can not delete the VMs  (Request goes through successfully but nothing happens and no errors in logs that i can see)18:07
Sam-I-Amthe one where dhcp requests should pop in18:07
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jwitkoWhen I try to reset-state as admin user via cli it responds with a Policy error18:07
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nerd1701not seeing any traffic at all on either of the qrouter ns interfaces18:10
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Sam-I-Amso, dhcp req makes it across the tunnel... then disappears?18:12
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nerd1701Sam-I-Am - Yes18:16
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evilrobwtf do I still have ovs-cleanup running? I don't have any ovs stuff installed (grumble grumble)18:17
Sam-I-Amnerd1701: i suspect a config error on the network node18:18
nerd1701That's what I thought.   Been through everything and can't find any error.18:19
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nerd1701It's going to wind up being something stupid.   I just know it....18:20
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evilrobthat's what it was for me last week.  now I went and changed which way I'm setting up networking.18:20
nerd1701What was your final problem?18:21
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nerd1701I  have 3 interfaces on the network box - management, gre (private network), and external connection18:21
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evilrobI had the wrong IP in my tunnel endpoint.  ovs wouldnt even pring up the tunnel18:21
nerd1701Tunnel is up18:22
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Sam-I-Amnerd1701: whats your source of config info?18:22
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nerd1701the Juno install guide on openstack.org18:22
nerd1701Running on CentOS18:22
Sam-I-Am7?18:22
nerd1701Yes18:22
Sam-I-Amsysctl things set?18:22
nerd1701Yep18:22
nerd1701First step of the config :)18:22
Sam-I-Amhost firewall disabled?18:23
nerd1701http://docs.openstack.org/juno/install-guide/install/yum/content/neutron-network-node.html18:23
nerd1701Yes, firewalld is disabled on all18:23
nerd1701Using this excellent troubleshooting guide http://dischord.org/2015/03/09/troubleshooting-openstack-neutron-networking-part-one/18:24
Sam-I-Amdid you do the init script fix?18:24
nerd1701This one?  cp /usr/lib/systemd/system/neutron-openvswitch-agent.service \   /usr/lib/systemd/system/neutron-openvswitch-agent.service.orig18:24
nerd1701sed -i 's,plugins/openvswitch/ovs_neutron_plugin.ini,plugin.ini,g' \   /usr/lib/systemd/system/neutron-openvswitch-agent.service18:25
Sam-I-Amyeah, that one18:25
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Sam-I-Amand the symlink18:25
nerd1701Made the symlink18:25
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Sam-I-Amon the net node, whats in your neutron.conf, ml2_conf.ini, l3_agent.ini, and dhcp_agent.ini ?18:27
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nerd1701Sam-I-Am - Been through those config files and what's in the docs is what is there.18:36
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Sam-I-Amlocal_ip matches the ip of the tunnel interface?18:37
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nerd1701Yes18:39
Sam-I-Ami know the config in the guide works18:39
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evilrobyeah.  once I quit the stupid, the config worked for me too18:40
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Sam-I-Amanything in the dhcp and ovs agent logs when you try to create the networks and/or launch an instance18:40
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evilrobSam-I-Am: so if I give the data interface an IP, it can ping the default route.  if I try that ping from inside the qdhcp namespace, I get nothing back. (whether the interface is numbered or not).18:47
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evilrobwhat should I dig into next18:49
issyl0Hi! I'm a bit confused. I was just localising some of your documentation and noticed a few typos in the source strings. I went and tried to follow https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/HowTo to find out how to submit some fixes - do I _really_ have to go through that long process? :-(18:49
Sam-I-Amdata interface as in, a plain old eth1 or something?18:50
issyl0(I guess I'm just too used to submitting quick GitHub PRs these days to fix little things like that. :-()18:50
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evilrobyeah. p20p2 specifically, but yes.  data interface as in a physical interface18:50
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annegentleissyl0: yes, there isn't really a shortcut when we're coordinating as many things as we are18:50
annegentleissyl0: if it's faster for you to simply log a bug we can pick it up pretty easily18:50
issyl0Fair enough. I'll see how it goes. :-) Thanks!18:51
annegentleissyl0: thanks for finding those!18:51
Sam-I-Amevilrob: assigning an ip to the bare interface would make it untagged/native18:51
Sam-I-Amso if that pings, you have a vlan tagging issue18:51
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evilrobwhich explains why I don't see vlan tags in tcpdump as much anymore (still see them once in a while)18:52
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Sam-I-Amso, neutron might be tagging, but your switch isnt expecting it18:52
Sam-I-Amyou can simulate this by creating p20p2.vlan# with an ip18:53
Sam-I-Amand if it no workie...18:53
evilrobalready have a p20p2.101@p20p218:53
evilrobcan use that?18:53
Sam-I-Ameh, its probably a veth pair to a bridge18:54
Sam-I-Amyou'd need to troubleshoot this outside of neutron18:54
Sam-I-Ambest bet, go check your switch config18:54
Sam-I-Ami bet its wrong18:54
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evilrobnumbering the p20p2.101 interface still can't ping 10.1.1.118:57
evilrobgrumble....18:57
evilrobI hate supermicro blade switches18:57
Sam-I-Amwait, shouldnt you be using cisco?18:57
evilrobyes.  this is legacy crap pre-acquisition18:58
potato_farmerHi. I started getting the following error when trying to terminate an instance: The server has either erred or is incapable of performing the requested operation. (HTTP 500). When I look at the logs I see: ERR: Failed to publish message to topic 'None': [Errno 32] Broken pipe.  Any tips on where to look first?18:58
evilrobso basically I want to make that port a trunking port so the switch knows to expect vlan tags.19:00
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Sam-I-Amyep19:00
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Sam-I-Ampotato_farmer: rabbit problem?19:01
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potato_farmerThe service appears to be running.19:01
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Sam-I-Amcan you still launch instances?19:02
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potato_farmerchecking...19:04
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potato_farmerSam-I-AM: Yes, I was able to launch a new instance and terminate that instance.19:08
Sam-I-Ambut other instances wont terminate?19:08
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potato_farmer Sam-I-AM: The issue may be with the one instance or its host.19:08
Gerardo_Hello everyone19:08
Gerardo_how are you today?19:08
Sam-I-Ampotato_farmer: is it host-specific?19:09
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potato_farmerSam-I-AM: I am suspecting it might be. Going to try again and see if the logs show anything else.19:09
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Gerardo_i have a question, i have an openstack working installation, but i want to add a SAN for swift, what size do you recommend for the luns?19:10
Gerardo_i have 40tb in the SAN19:10
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nerd1701I'm suspecting this may have something to do with the network connection in vmware19:11
evilrobSam-I-Am: while I've got my switch guy working on this, is there another way to do provider networks?19:11
Sam-I-AmGerardo_: swift doesnt talk to luns19:11
nerd1701Wondering if it's stripping VLANs19:11
Sam-I-Amnerd1701: vmware?19:11
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nerd1701Running this as 3 VMs in my lab.19:11
Gerardo_how do i need to configure the SAN to use swift and cinder19:12
Gerardo_?19:12
Sam-I-Amnerd1701: could be, that would have been helpful to know earlier :/19:12
Sam-I-Amevilrob: provider networks push almost all of the networking functions to the physical network, so that stuff just needs to work19:13
Sam-I-Amevilrob: you could create a flat network, but you only get one19:13
nerd1701Sorry, thought I mentioned that.19:13
evilrobSam-I-Am: flat will get me ext-net on every compute node essentially? (only need one in this case)19:14
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Sam-I-Amnerd1701: usually its just permitting promisc mode and mac forging on the vswitch that you use for br-ex19:14
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Sam-I-Amevilrob: yeah, flat is just an untagged vlan19:14
Sam-I-Amhence why you only get one per phys interface mapping19:15
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nerd1701Sam-I-Am - those are set correctly.19:17
annegentleGerardo_: probably need a bit more background info about block storage (cinder) and object storage (swift) decisions, read up here: http://docs.openstack.org/openstack-ops/content/storage_decision.html19:17
nerd1701I can ping the external address of the router.19:17
Sam-I-Amthats good19:17
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evilrobSam-I-Am: ok, flat will have to work.  I'm ok with that.  we'll have more flexibility once we get on cisco kit.  That's the next config I do once this is working.19:22
evilrobis there a similar doc for that config?19:22
Gerardo_ok thanks i'll keep in mind.19:22
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Sam-I-Amevilrob: same 4b, just how you create the network differs19:22
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annegentleSam-I-Am: quit calling it 4b :) code names abound!19:23
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Sam-I-Amannegentle: haha19:24
Sam-I-Amprovider networks with linux bridge scenario :)19:25
annegentleSam-I-Am: :) PN w/LB?19:25
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issyl0annegentle: You're right. I will just file a bug - it's easier.19:25
annegentleissyl0: sure, np19:25
evilrobPNLB19:25
Sam-I-Ams..sure19:26
annegentleissyl0: I'd be happy to pick it up if it's simple typos19:26
annegentlePBnJ19:26
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issyl0annegentle: I've only found one so far, and it's some whitespace that doesn't need to be there - not a typo per se.19:27
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annegentleissyl0: ooo do tell :) we have a whitespace gate test so I'm surprised19:27
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issyl0annegentle: https://www.transifex.com/openstack/openstack-manuals-i18n/translate/#en_GB/glossary-1/51309841 - there's a space between "HowTo"> OpenStack Documentation HowTo</link>" which will presumably render as a double space 'cause there's already one before the start of <link>...19:29
issyl0(It'll make more sense if you look at the string rather than reading my ramblings. ;-))19:30
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annegentleissyl0: hm. I get page not found.19:30
annegentleissyl0: and I logged in to transifex19:30
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issyl0annegentle: https://www.dropbox.com/s/x371xejb89yhjxw/Screenshot%202015-08-03%2020.31.05.png?dl=019:31
annegentleissyl0: thanks, I see it.19:32
annegentlels19:32
annegentleer19:32
annegentleha19:32
issyl0:-)19:32
annegentleissyl0: so, my guess is that it's a pandoc problem... the source is docbook and then rendered to RST19:32
annegentleissyl0: log a bug for deeper investigating19:33
annegentleissyl0: because changing the source isn't going to fix that bug, the source has a hard return there19:33
annegentleissyl0: or, possibly the po generator is adding it.19:33
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annegentleissyl0: at any rate, it's in a script somewhere adding it19:34
issyl0Ah, right.19:34
annegentleissyl0: it is a real bug, I can log it if needed19:34
issyl0I log bugs in Launchpad, right?19:35
issyl0https://bugs.launchpad.net/~openstack-doc-bugs?19:35
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annegentleissyl0: you want https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals19:36
issyl0Thanks. I'll get writing!19:37
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Sam-I-Ambbiab, relocate19:38
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evilrobSam-I-Am: so now instances will use my normal dhcp server?19:38
Sam-I-Amno, they still use the neutron dhcp server19:38
Sam-I-Amanywho, gotta run for a bit19:38
evilrobok.  relocate.  we'll chat when you're back19:38
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evilrobnot sure what command-line bits I didn't get right, but in horizon I created a dhcp agent on the subnet and that fixed my issue.19:44
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evilroball I've got left not working now is the "console" page in horizon.  But I can connect directly with vnc so I'm not too worried about that19:45
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evilroband if anyone knows how to solve "failed to connect to server (code: 1006)" I'll take the clue.19:46
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issyl0annegentle: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/148106819:53
openstackLaunchpad bug 1481068 in openstack-manuals "Extra whitespace between <link> text in the glossary" [Low,New]19:53
evilroband now my instance isn't getting a response from the metadata server, so I can't log in.  Sam-I-Am said something about having to use config-drive with provider networks.  wondering if it's the same for the flat network config I've got now.19:54
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* evilrob is looking at http://docs.openstack.org/user-guide/cli_config_drive.html but wants the config drive to pull the ssh key from the user DB not specify user data files20:13
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evilroboh wait... I think I am being stupid again20:13
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Sessohello20:13
SessoDoes anyone use a SAN with openstack?20:14
SessoI have read that people suggest using local server storage.20:14
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ultrabizwebSesso you can do it that way from what I understand lots of ways to do it. Like a Dedicated NFS server EX: Freenas you also have options like ceph if you are running multiple machines20:15
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* evilrob is using ceph20:16
ultrabizwebI have not used ceph yet how do you like it evilrob20:17
SessoOk great thanks:)20:17
evilrobyes... I was being stupid wrt config-drive20:17
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evilrobour OS cluster isn't production yet, but I like ceph so far.20:17
ultrabizwebits minimum 3 servers right and you generally want them dedicated to ceph even though I have heard ppl dual roles on some clusters20:18
evilrobbefore we got monitoring on our ceph cluster (when it was in test), one of the boxes wedged (hardware issue) and we didn't even notice.20:18
SessoWe use ceph at work and the guys like it. The hosts attached to it would go read only once in awhile for some reason. Usually a remount fixes it.20:18
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portalBlockHello, I am wondering if there is a way to have openstack run a script on boot or append a personality to a file (specifically /etc/rc.local)?20:25
larsksportalBlock: not *openstack*, no, but most cloud images (from Fedora, ubuntu, centos, redhat, etc) run "cloud-init" when they boot, which will run scripts passed via openstack's user-data field.20:26
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portalBlockOk, I will have to talk to our host to see if they use a could image then. Thanks for the help!20:27
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larsksportalBlock: it all depends on what image *you* choose to boot, usually. If they provide any of the standard cloud images -- or if you can upload one yourself -- you should be all set.20:27
portalBlockRight now we are using debian. Is there a specical version to use or is it native support?20:28
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larsksI don't know if debian distributes pre-built cloud images.  If the 'cloud-init' package is installed, that would answer the question.20:29
portalBlockOk, thank you.20:29
portalBlockSeems to be installed, this should save a lot of time for us~20:31
evilroblooking at config-drive.  I can get it to work passing "--config-drive true" on the commandline, but want all VMs to use config-drive.  I set force_config_drive=true and it doesn't work.  Which piece am i missing?20:31
larsksevilrob: what version of openstack?20:32
evilrobjuno20:32
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evilrobwhich nova process handles the config-drive bits20:32
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evilrobI restarted api and conductor20:33
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larsksThe docs say, "if set, valid options are: always", so maybe try setting the parameter to "always"?20:33
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larsksI would guess either nova-api or nova-compute.  Certainly nova-compute needs to *know* about the parameter.20:33
larsksBut I'm not sure.20:33
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evilroblarsks: might be it.  I was looking at kilo docs that referred to "force_config_drive=true"20:36
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larsksevilrob: Huh. Yeah, I see that in the Kilo release notes.20:37
evilrobno joy20:38
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larsksBummer. I've only ever used config drive via the command line, so not sure. I happen to have a Juno install running right now so in a bit I may be able to take a look on my system.20:39
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portalBlockIn the cloud-init config I have it download a script and set it executable with chmod but how would I run it?20:39
larsksportalBlock: you pass cloud-init the script via user-data when you create an instance.  E.g., "nova boot --user-data /some/file" or the equivalent in the web gui.20:40
larsksIt needs to start with a '#!' path (like '#!/bin/sh').20:40
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portalBlockOh, ok. I misunderstood the documentation then. Thanks again!20:40
larsksUbuntu has some overview documentation: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CloudInit20:41
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evilrobyeah... still no joy.  I either need to get config-drive to default to true or make the metadata server work.  There was a workaround listed for the metadata server, but that was listed as fixed in icehouse21:19
evilroband now my ES cluster starts to crap itself...21:20
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Sam-I-Am.21:22
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Sam-I-Amevilrob: so whats happening?21:24
evilrobwith my ES cluster?  :)21:25
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evilrobwatching cirros boot it makes a bunch of metadata requests that fail, and then comes up without any metadata (including ssh keys)21:26
Sam-I-Amwith what i left on21:26
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evilrobplayed with config-drive, and from the command-line, it works great21:26
Sam-I-Ammakes sense, provider networks generally dont support ec2-style metadata21:26
evilrobnow just trying to get it to default to always on21:26
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Sam-I-Amthere's a way to make it work off the dhcp agent, but frankly config-drive is a better option21:27
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evilroband I'm fine with config-drive.  I'd just like it to be always on.  Sure, I can train users to tick the checkbox on the last tab of the launch instance bit, but shouldn't force_config_drive work?21:28
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Sam-I-Amyou can set the option in the nova config file to force it21:31
evilrobI tried force_config_drive=True and force_config_drive=Always21:31
Sam-I-Amin all nova.conf ?21:32
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evilrobon the controller.  crap.  need it on compute don't I.21:32
evilrobfml21:32
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evilrobI was so damn target focused on my controller with all the neutron bits, it never even occurred to me.21:35
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evilrobthat solves the provlem21:35
Sam-I-Amno big deal21:36
Sam-I-Amshit happens21:36
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Hazelesquehey21:43
evilrobOk, well at least it's working now.  So with this flat networking setup, packets from the compute node will go out my local interface and not across the linuxbridge?21:43
HazelesqueI read about using SmartOS compute nodes on the wiki... https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/SmartOS21:44
Hazelesquethough it looks like the fork in question hasn't been updated since Grizzly? ( https://github.com/tmetsch/nova )21:44
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* Hazelesque wonders how much faff it would be to get the smartos driver for nova working with newer releases...21:45
* evilrob just answered his latest question by using tcpdump21:45
Sam-I-Amevilrob: still uses the bridge21:45
Sam-I-Amjust no vlan tag21:45
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evilrobdoesn't seem to21:46
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evilrobseems to go straight out the interface. and indeed I just rebooted the controller/neutron box and can still talk to one of my VMs21:48
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Sam-I-Amthere should be a brq### on the hosts21:49
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Sam-I-Amvm tap -> brq w/ security groups -> host interface21:50
evilrobok.  when you say bridge, part of me is thinking tunnel.21:50
Sam-I-Ambridges go over things, tunnels go through things? :)21:50
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Anariohi i need help !23:28
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AnarioError: The resource could not be found. (HTTP 404)23:29
AbuAbuAnario: what you are doing ?23:29
AbuAbuHi all, http://pastebin.com/wDX0q5xS23:29
AbuAbuI'm following keystone configuration for Kilo http://docs.openstack.org/kilo/install-guide/install/apt/content/keystone-verify.html23:29
Anarioit comes when i create instances23:29
AbuAbuI'm running WSGI in apache, but getting this errors in keystone.log23:30
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AnarioAbuAbu no i have no problem with keystone23:31
AbuAbuhow do I switch from eventlet to apache?23:31
Sam-I-Amdont start the keystone service23:32
AbuAbuAnario: I guess, so! But I do have23:32
Sam-I-Amthe guide says that23:32
AbuAbuhm23:32
Sam-I-Amapache binds to ports 5000 and 3535723:32
AbuAbuSam-I-Am: thanks23:32
AbuAbuDisable the keystone service from starting automatically after installation:23:32
AbuAbuI did that but started service23:32
AbuAbuthis is not working /etc/init/keystone.override23:33
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AbuAbuSam-I-Am:  thanks again! it was stupid mistake on my side.23:34
Sam-I-Amsure23:34
AbuAbuOther issue I got23:34
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AbuAbuI'm running keystone verification command on both controller and remote client - on controller it works great, but on remote client I'm getting this (I have all env variables related to keystone unset)23:35
AbuAbuopenstack --os-auth-url http://controller:35357   --os-project-name admin --os-username admin --os-auth-type password   project list23:35
AbuAbuPassword:23:35
AbuAbuERROR: openstack The request you have made requires authentication. (HTTP 401) (Request-ID: req-e955fd77-0ca8-4d13-b997-941e278690c4)23:35
AbuAbuin both cases I'm entering same password, from both client and controller I can access http://controller:35357/23:35
AnarioError: The resource could not be found. (HTTP 404) (Request-ID: req-551b5e95-01a4-47b7-80b3-03946e28df32)23:35
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AbuAbuAnario: you have same issue I do have ?23:36
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AnarioAbuAbu i think no23:37
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