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| projectdp | Hello I have a quick question maybe someone can assist: What's the difference between creating an instance from an image and creating a volume from an image and then launching the instance? | 00:46 |
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| dmz | hey quick question; i'm trying to recall where the metadata agent lives on vlan network types | 01:31 |
| ____Tony | Preparing to set up a Demo with Neutran Network config. Kilo docs reference network interfaces. Can each be a separate virtual network using the same network device in a Demo or should they be different physical networks? TIA | 01:32 |
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| Sam-I-Am | dmz: it can live anywhere | 02:35 |
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| dmz | Sam-I-Am, what i mean is i see the process listening on router name spaces on network nodes; on a vlan network I know it's tied to the dhcp service; but dont' see the process listening on any dhcp name spaces nor any iptables rules; was just trying to recall where it would normally live in a vlan/dhcp env | 02:40 |
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| Sam-I-Am | dmz: so... provider network vs. project network | 02:48 |
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| Sam-I-Am | because you can have project vlan networks with routers | 02:48 |
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| dmz | yeah but i don't need routers with my vlan networks, we have dedicated segmentation devices (physical boxes) doing the core network segmentatoin / routing controls | 02:51 |
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| dmz | i've got it working just trying to remember how it works with vlan/dhcp networks so I can monitor it :) | 02:51 |
| dmz | NUMOSRTR=`neutron router-list -f csv|grep -v external_gateway_info|wc -l`; NUMLISTEN=`neutron router-list -f csv|grep -v external_gateway_info|cut -d"," -f 1|sed 's/"//g'|xargs -n 1 -I {} ip netns exec qrouter-{} lsof -i -P -n|egrep "9697"|wc -l`; if [ "$NUMOSRTR" == "$NUMLISTEN" ]; then echo OK; else echo NOTOK; fi | 02:51 |
| dmz | thats how i monitor my router networks meta process | 02:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | do you have what i think is 'allow_isolated_metadata' enabled in the dhcp config? | 02:52 |
| dmz | yeah | 02:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | because then it injects a route for you | 02:52 |
| dmz | let me double check but yeah that sounds right | 02:52 |
| dmz | yeah it does | 02:52 |
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| Sam-I-Am | nothing else changes. the metadata proxy should be listening in the dhcp namespace | 02:52 |
| dmz | i didn't see any | 02:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | is that network injecting the route for your instances? | 02:53 |
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| dmz | yeah i see it going to the dhcp service ip | 02:54 |
| dmz | thats what i thought but didnt' see any metadata service | 02:54 |
| dmz | sigh i hate it when things dont' work right :) this is why i'm setting up monitoring services for every dependent component | 02:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | so whats in the dhcp ns? | 02:55 |
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| dmz | i didn't see anything in the dhcp namespaces; let me check again | 03:04 |
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| dmz | all i see are the dnsmasq processes on port 53 | 03:06 |
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| dmz | ip netns|grep dhcp | xargs -n 1 -I {} ip netns exec {} lsof -i -P -n|grep LIST | 03:07 |
| dmz | thats how i'm searching all the namespaces at once | 03:07 |
| * dmz loves my xargs :) | 03:07 | |
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| Sam-I-Am | so nothing on what is it... 9696? | 03:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | no iptables rules in there? | 03:09 |
| dmz | no none | 03:09 |
| dmz | iptables that is | 03:09 |
| dmz | ip netns|grep dhcp | xargs -n 1 -I {} ip netns exec {} iptables -t nat -L -n | 03:09 |
| dmz | nothing there | 03:09 |
| dmz | 9697 is port | 03:09 |
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| Sam-I-Am | weird. | 03:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | is the metadata agent running? | 03:11 |
| dmz | yeah if i search the router namespaces i see it | 03:11 |
| dmz | ip netns|grep rout | xargs -n 1 -I {} ip netns exec {} lsof -i -P -n|grep LIST|grep 9697 | 03:12 |
| dmz | neutron-n 4989 root 5u IPv4 2807818191 0t0 TCP *:9697 (LISTEN) | 03:12 |
| dmz | and one for each router namespace | 03:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | sure there's no router for this network? | 03:12 |
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| Sam-I-Am | aight time to un-computer for the night | 03:14 |
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| dmz | night | 03:21 |
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| telnes | hello | 08:21 |
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| telnes | is it possible to disable query to 169.254.169.254 from instance. cloud.cfg ? I don't need to have it (or reduce boot time/when service not accessible for some instance) | 08:22 |
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| hashar | telnes: look at cloud-init datasources maybe ? | 08:33 |
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| hashar | telnes: you might have something like: | 08:34 |
| hashar | datasource: | 08:34 |
| hashar | Ec2: | 08:34 |
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| ganeshk | Can anyone help me with this error http://paste.openstack.org/show/473716/ | 09:16 |
| utfans05 | Anyone around that can help me with some yaml? I'm trying to call a bash script from a RS heat template and it's throwing errors and I'm not sure why. | 09:16 |
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| JBzh | Good morning. Reading the docs, I'm not sure: does legacy networking nova refers to the "old way", used for backward compatibility and not required for a new infrastructure from scratch ? Neutron only covers all needed functionalities ? | 09:51 |
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| partner | is there a way to hide external networks that cannot be used from particular project? now it lists them all which is very confusing | 10:50 |
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| partner | on Kilo that is | 10:51 |
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| partner | i found some old bug (1212256) which isn't exactly this issue but on the comment it states: | 10:52 |
| partner | "This issue is already fixed in the latest code. The code lists only networks which a given project can see and external networks (floating IP pools)." | 10:52 |
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| partner | ..and external networks.. | 10:52 |
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| partner | why should they all be listed when they are usable by their "owning" projects, gets messy when there are tens of unrelated networks listed | 10:53 |
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| partner | "Regarding floating IP, the problem still exists. It should be dealt with as a separate bug." - i guess its not touched since havanna still? any workarounds ? | 10:54 |
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| Amit__ | Hi team. I need to know how I can use special characters ($) in user_data of heat template on KILO OS | 11:04 |
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| mripguru | Hi guys - just wondering - since I've read conflicting reports - what's the minimum # of servers required for a proper OpenStack deployment? (I've read some places 4 and some places 7) | 11:39 |
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| adac | There is no easy way/ easy howto install openstack on a server, right? ;) | 11:47 |
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| zao | Aren't the quick-start guides reasonably decent? | 11:48 |
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| zao | http://docs.openstack.org/kilo/install-guide/install/apt/content/ <- those | 11:48 |
| zao | Lots of hand-mangling of things, of course... no idea if there's playbooks or containers out there. | 11:49 |
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| dweaver | There are many guides and many different config management technologies to use, such as Puppet, Chef, Ansible, Juju to name a few. Simplest test install is devstack. | 11:50 |
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| dweaver | For a POC, use what you would use in production, e.g. puppet if that's your thing | 11:50 |
| partner | https://www.rdoproject.org/Quickstart - using packstack it does not take long to get a functional installation running | 11:51 |
| dweaver | The manual install should probably never be used in production. | 11:51 |
| mripguru | zao: that doesn't give me the # of physical servers required, etc. | 11:51 |
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| dweaver | mripguru, it varies, depends on your requirements. Devstack install is 1 machine | 11:51 |
| mripguru | dweaver: I'm going for production. | 11:51 |
| dweaver | mripguru, Then you probably need an architect to design it first. | 11:52 |
| mripguru | dweaver: I have 4 servers I can use for compute, etc. + a storage node | 11:52 |
| mripguru | dweaver: I was going to use Landscape | 11:52 |
| zao | We started with one VM per OpenStack service, but will probably consolidate for first test deployment. | 11:52 |
| partner | one could go for example having VMs for the controller/network and then hardware for the computes, those can be added later on if need arise | 11:52 |
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| dweaver | mripguru, Landscape GUI should tell you how many machines you need depending on what you select. | 11:53 |
| mripguru | dweaver: their documentation is…. interesting. | 11:53 |
| dweaver | mripguru, you mean terrible, I know. | 11:53 |
| mripguru | dweaver: not really terrible - but, contradictory in some places. | 11:54 |
| mripguru | (hence my query here.) | 11:54 |
| adac | zao, it is quite a lot. But I think I have to dig trough | 11:54 |
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| dweaver | mripguru, Install Landscape on a virtual machine, install MAAS on a virtual machine, configure Landscape to use MAAS. Then register machines to MAAS, then use the Landscape GUI to deploy Openstack, if you select Swift as well as Ceph for installation then you'll need 7 machines (I think). | 11:55 |
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| mripguru | dweaver: I was thinking about using Ceph for both | 11:55 |
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| dweaver | mripguru, then you can reduce it by 2 machines, to 5 (I think). | 11:56 |
| mripguru | which I have. :) | 11:56 |
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| mripguru | IIRC - that's what Ubuntu recommends anyways | 11:57 |
| dweaver | mripguru, then you are good to go. | 11:57 |
| mripguru | but - do I still need to virtualize MaaS and so on in that case? | 11:57 |
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| dweaver | yes, we always virtualise MAAS and Landscape in a small deployment as you don't want to waste additional machines. | 11:58 |
| mripguru | (I don't think so?) | 11:58 |
| mripguru | ah | 11:58 |
| mripguru | okay. | 11:58 |
| dweaver | You certainly don't have to, but then you'll need more machines | 11:58 |
| mripguru | is there any FAQ or anything like that detailing how to create the VM's prior to installing OpenStack? | 11:59 |
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| dweaver | If you have a GUI, use virt-manager as it is easy to add a VM, but make sure you create a bonded network so that MAAS can talk to the local physical network. There are some blog articles out there on how to do this, see if I can find one for you | 12:00 |
| mripguru | dweaver: at the moment - all I have is a base Ubuntu Server install | 12:00 |
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| dweaver | mripguru, https://insights.ubuntu.com/2013/11/15/interested-in-maas-and-juju-heres-how-to-try-it-in-a-vm/ | 12:01 |
| dweaver | Although, that is not completely right and it is also out of date | 12:01 |
| dweaver | But it gives you the general gist | 12:02 |
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| dweaver | mripguru, Or maybe this would be helpful: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvn2jxYHUxFlxNmc1dAbw524aoPmHxNpC | 12:04 |
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| mripguru | dweaver: thanks — I'll have a read through (though - not really what I'm looking for - I don't have a GUI to work with) | 12:07 |
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| dweaver | mripguru, no GUI, then you need to work out the virt-install commands you will need. This is standard KVM management though, so there should be plenty of docs on that. | 12:08 |
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| dweaver | mripguru, of course the easy way is to hire someone to do it for you, or train you to do it, many training courses available, I run some too. | 12:10 |
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| dweaver | And if you have problems with MAAS go to #maas and ask there | 12:10 |
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| mripguru | dweaver: okay. | 12:13 |
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| mripguru | dweaver: http://dinosaursareforever.blogspot.com/2014/06/manually-deploying-openstack-with.html — looks like that should do the trick? | 12:19 |
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| telnes | ping * !! | 12:21 |
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| telnes | ping evrybody ! | 12:21 |
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| telnes | I have 2 instance in the same subnet. I ping instance 1 from 2 . I see packet (tcpdump) on instance 1 request and reply ! but on instance 2 no reply ? I change the mtu but ... no change | 12:23 |
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| mripguru | dweaver: should I do a single server install instead and then add the other hosts afterwards? | 12:37 |
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| torbatux | @telnes have you checked security groups ? ;-) | 12:38 |
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| telnes | i create rules like tcp 1-65535 alow icmp ok and upd | 12:41 |
| telnes | torbatux \o/ | 12:41 |
| telnes | you never sleep | 12:41 |
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| torbatux | no I don't ... dinosaurs did not sleep either :D | 12:42 |
| rozie | telnes: there's a way to allow all ports and protocols from all sources | 12:42 |
| torbatux | ^^that would be my suggestion as well ... | 12:42 |
| torbatux | just for test | 12:42 |
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| rozie | I know, just not sure what "rules like tcp 1-65535 alow icmp ok and upd" exactly are ;) | 12:43 |
| telnes | :D | 12:43 |
| telnes | best rules | 12:43 |
| telnes | I try to put a capture | 12:43 |
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| telnes | http://snag.gy/YntJ1.jpg | 12:44 |
| telnes | maybe in need to do the same on egree | 12:44 |
| telnes | *egress | 12:44 |
| rozie | telnes: 503 | 12:44 |
| telnes | reload | 12:45 |
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| rozie | works | 12:45 |
| rozie | I'd just use one rule with ANY in protocol | 12:45 |
| telnes | http://ctrlv.in/640549 | 12:46 |
| telnes | mm | 12:46 |
| rozie | but this shouldn't block ICMP anymore | 12:46 |
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| telnes | maybe i can delete rules before | 12:47 |
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| telnes | rozie, torbatux are there a way to troubleshoot in the net/subnet | 12:50 |
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| rozie | logs, usual Linux network debug tools | 12:50 |
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| telnes | i know how to do tcpdump in qrouter interface but in this case i don't have qrouter | 12:51 |
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| telnes | is there a netns contexte for net/subnet | 12:51 |
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| rozie | I guess not if it's gatewayless subnet | 12:52 |
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| telnes | in fact a configure gateway subnet but it is an instance | 12:52 |
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| telnes | maybe it is the problem | 12:52 |
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| telnes | I delete all and crete new without gateway and hardconfigure value | 12:53 |
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| MrJamesK | Is there any additional config required for guestfs to be called during instance deployment? Verified that liguestfs-test-tool works fine and enabled guestfs_debug in nova.conf, but there is no output in nova.log related to guestfs. | 13:30 |
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| georgem1 | did you try enabling debugging in [guestfs] in nova.conf ? http://docs.openstack.org/kilo/config-reference/content/list-of-compute-config-options.html | 13:32 |
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| MrJamesK | georgem1: yep... already enabled. nova config output shows it is enabled on restart as well. | 13:33 |
| georgem1 | what are the "inject_partition" values? | 13:34 |
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| MrJamesK | inject_partition = -1 | 13:35 |
| MrJamesK | KVM hypervisor | 13:36 |
| MrJamesK | inject_password = True | 13:36 |
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| georgem1 | MrJamesK: are these under the [libvirt] section? | 13:44 |
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| MrJamesK | georgem1: yep | 13:45 |
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| georgem1 | inject_partition: did you also try with "inject_partition=1" ? or whatever partition you have | 13:50 |
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| MrJamesK | georgem1: I can change it and give it a shot; really just looking to do root password injection | 13:53 |
| MrJamesK | didn't care so much about partitioning | 13:53 |
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| MrJamesK | inject_password is set to 1 in libvirt as well | 13:53 |
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| dweaver | mripguru, changing from a single server install, might be more complicated and there is certainly less documentation on changing a single server install to multiple server install. | 13:57 |
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| mripguru | dweaver: I figured as much | 13:58 |
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| MrJamesK | Ahh... does inject_password with livirt not work when using Cinder iSCSI/LVM storage? | 14:00 |
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| georgem1 | MrJamesK: if you're booting from a cinder volume, it's possible; on the other hand password injection using guestfs is I would say a less used option in production (it gets less real life testing), so it might as well be broken | 14:07 |
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| georgem1 | MrJamesK: the authority of libguestfs and its usage in openstack is pbrady, so I would check with him directly | 14:12 |
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| krypto | i am facing a weird situation where arp reply is reaching vnic of instance but not inside virtual machine.using nova-network.Any idea | 14:26 |
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| devth_ | i tried installing python-novaclient offline from a bunch of .whl and .tar.gzs in order to use the openstack.v2 api from python, but at runtime get an error: | 15:07 |
| devth_ | novaclient.exceptions.UnsupportedVersion: Invalid client version '4a64c570209d4ea5aefaff92ffd8ca4f'. must be one of: 3, 2, 1.1 | 15:08 |
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| devth | any ideas on why that would be the version? is it because I installed offline (using pip)? | 15:08 |
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| kindjal | Sam-I-Am: Followup to my question yesterday about running openstack inside openstack, setting up external bridge on a single interface of an openstack instance: | 15:08 |
| kindjal | http://paste.openstack.org/show/473774/ | 15:08 |
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| MrJamesK | georgem1: Thanks for the info. Do you know if cloud-init supports setting the root password from the adminPassword specified at creation time? | 15:19 |
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| ____Tony | Planning OpenStack Demo using Neutron networking... Q-The docs describe setting up network interfaces. In theory, instead of setting up separate network interfaces can those IP addresses be assigned to the same network interface and run on a common physical network segment? TIA | 15:22 |
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| georgem1 | MrJamesK:cloud-init can do many things, see http://pastebin.com/xdhPTYTc | 15:26 |
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| Dasher | Hello, I have a question about neutron DHCP agent: can it be installed on a virtual machine? I'd like to put DHCP servers on specific VMs. | 15:31 |
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| MrJamesK | georgem1: ya I've done the static assignment inside of the cloud-init file on the image, but was trying to make it dynamic per deployment. | 15:31 |
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| georgem1 | MrJamesK: I don't think I understand..the user provides a user-data file with the desired password, is this not dynamic? | 15:35 |
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| kevinc___ | Is there any way to find the instance id of the instance I am currently logged into? Currently I use the openstack client server list with a filter on the ip address, but I was wondering if the instance id was stored somewhere on the instance itself | 15:37 |
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| telnes | nova list | 15:37 |
| telnes | nova show | 15:38 |
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| kevinc___ | that is what I am currently doing (except using python-openstackclient instead of python-novaclient) | 15:38 |
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| telnes | nova list --all-tenants | 15:41 |
| telnes | you get the IP | 15:42 |
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| LouisinLondon | Hi everyone. Just popping in to see if anyone can help answer my question about resizing a bootstrap KVM that is on a LVM ... my experience is with VSphere so clear answer with commands and references would be much appreciated... https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/82093/help-resizing-bootstack-vm-kvm-which-is-100-full/ | 15:43 |
| telnes | resizing to bigger or smaller | 15:43 |
| LouisinLondon | The Question also explains some context and history which will make the question clearer.. | 15:43 |
| LouisinLondon | It's 16:43 of my workday and this is about the time of day i get to worry about Openstack (after doing all other urgent and needed work for today... ) thus the request for help... | 15:44 |
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| kevinc___ | ok, i was just wondering if Cloud-init stored the instance id somewhere when it created the server. I was trying to avoid having to store my openstack api username and password on the instance | 15:53 |
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| georgem1 | kevinc___: there are two instance_id, one is locally significant to the hypervisor and visible by querying the metadata service (curl http://169.254.169.254/latest/meta-data/instance-id), the other instance_id is seen when doing "nova list" and it's cloud unique, but not displayed in the meta-data service :( | 15:56 |
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| kevinc___ | georgem1: got it thank you! I will continue doing what I have been doing. | 15:58 |
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| georgem1 | kevinc___:if you are an admin and do "nova show instance_XYZ" you'll see the same "i-000007b2" as displayed by the meta-data service, but as a regular user that info is not displayed | 15:58 |
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| kevinc___ | yeah, i am doing this as a non-admin user on openstack | 15:59 |
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| georgem1 | kevinc___: then I don't think you can reconcile the two pieces of data, other than using the hostame or IP address, if they are unique | 16:01 |
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| cloh | Hey, anyone know of any Wiki applications that scale well? Something comparable at least to Atlassian's Confluence? | 16:03 |
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| cloh | trying to google for a wiki application is rough, it simply returns a million actual wiki's | 16:03 |
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| ____Tony | Planning OpenStack Demo using Neutron networking... Q-The docs describe setting up network interfaces. In theory, instead of setting up separate network interfaces can those IP addresses be assigned to the same network interface and run on a common physical network segment? TIA | 16:04 |
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| kevinc___ | georgem1: parsing the output of `openstack server list --ip 192.168.X.X -f value` has been working, the downside is i have to keep my keystone auth information either in the script or the environment, which I wanted to avoid if possible. But since it doesn't seem like it is going to be possible then I will just leave things as they currently are | 16:05 |
| ____Tony | doffm: You need to specify scaling in what direction or by what metrics. Horizontally? Vertically? Capacity measuresd by content? users? etc | 16:06 |
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| Bent0 | Not sure if this is a proper question. But im stuck deciding if I should use KVM or Xen/XenServer as the hypervisor in a new openstack build | 16:31 |
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| jpecsi92 | Hey everyone, can someone provide some insight on the best way to use NFS as the backend storage for images and instances? Currently I have 3 compute nodes, 1 controller, and 1 network | 16:59 |
| jpecsi92 | I have a NAS on the network as well (reachable by all nodes) | 16:59 |
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| ____Tony | jpecsi92: I've been going through the Kilo docs in preparation for a Build and I'm sure I saw a section about NFS | 17:04 |
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| ____Tony | Planning OpenStack Demo using Neutron networking... Q-The docs describe setting up network interfaces. In theory, instead of setting up separate network interfaces can those IP addresses be assigned to the same network interface and run on a common physical network segment? TIA | 17:04 |
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| WormMan | ____Tony: yes. I'm not sure if any of the packaged distributions can do it, but I have a working Neutron Flat cloud on a single physical network(no VLANs either) | 17:11 |
| WormMan | would be easy if I wanted to make it VXLAN or GRE | 17:11 |
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| ____Tony | WormMan: Thx. Encouraging enough for me to continue down this path. | 17:14 |
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| WormMan | I'm hoping to do a write-up about it since the control and network nodes are Raspberry Pi 2 B's and the compute nodes are a pair of inexpensive x86 compute sticks | 17:16 |
| WormMan | but no time right now | 17:17 |
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| zao | Bent0: On the bright side, we can deduplicate them easily. | 18:16 |
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| dmsimard | Hey, there was a page like this for the Kilo summit: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Design_Summit/Kilo/Travel_Tips | 18:40 |
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