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| finisherr | Could someone tell me how nodes get their routes? | 17:54 |
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| finisherr | I know the instances get their networking via dhcp | 17:54 |
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| finisherr | we are using the dnsmasq driver | 17:55 |
| finisherr | i need an addition route setup for eth0 | 17:55 |
| finisherr | to add 169.254.169.254 to an additional gateway IP | 17:55 |
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| finisherr | I’m assuming that the instance is getting it’s loopback route info via dhcp | 17:56 |
| finisherr | since the interfaces.d/eth0 config shows dhcp | 17:56 |
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| finisherr | Ahh, okay | 19:57 |
| finisherr | This is the issue | 19:57 |
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| finisherr | https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/agent/linux/dhcp.py#L823 | 19:57 |
| finisherr | The code is only creating one gateway, but specifying class-static-routes for two gateways | 19:58 |
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| finisherr | I’m looking at the extra opts for dhcp now and it doesn’t look like they are setup correctly to satisfy both routes | 20:04 |
| finisherr | There has to be a config somewhere I can specify two gateways in the openstack configs | 20:04 |
| finisherr | maybe that’s it | 20:04 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you can add host routes when you create a subnet in neutron | 20:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | for the most part, with the special metadata network, openstack either injects the route to it for you, or assumes your network will handle the routing (not via separate route) | 20:21 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so chances are you're doing something that should not be done | 20:21 |
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| finisherr | yeah | 20:21 |
| finisherr | I inherited this openstack installation | 20:22 |
| finisherr | don’t know everything about how things are put together | 20:22 |
| finisherr | but I do know that we have a flat dhcp setup | 20:22 |
| finisherr | with one vlan | 20:22 |
| finisherr | Sam-I-Am: When I log into a VM and curl http://169.254.169.254, i get nothing | 20:23 |
| finisherr | but when I do route add 169.254.169.254 gw 10.10.160.0 dev eth0 | 20:23 |
| finisherr | it works | 20:23 |
| Sam-I-Am | what is that network? | 20:23 |
| Sam-I-Am | this is a provider network? (no openstack router) ? | 20:24 |
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| finisherr | When I look at the dhcp setup from dnsmasq, I can see that there are routes pointing that loopback to 10.10.160.0 AND 10.10.160.1 | 20:24 |
| finisherr | but there is only a router option for 10.10.160.1 | 20:24 |
| finisherr | I don’t think there is an openstack router at least | 20:24 |
| finisherr | The provider network? uhh, not sure | 20:24 |
| finisherr | I could check | 20:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | finisherr: what handles routing for 10.10.160/24 ? | 20:25 |
| finisherr | I’m not sure anything does. At least when I ping it I get no response | 20:25 |
| finisherr | but for some reason adding that route in the vm fixes the metadata route issue | 20:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | in your dhcp_agent.ini, what do you have for enable_isolated_metadata ? | 20:26 |
| finisherr | but of course, it goes away after restarts | 20:26 |
| finisherr | on yeah, i have that set to True | 20:26 |
| finisherr | At least it was that way when I started working on this stuff | 20:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | if thats the case, and this network is not routed by openstack, you should already have a route for 169.x injected into the vm | 20:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | assuming the vm accepts route via dhcp | 20:27 |
| finisherr | So, there IS a route injected | 20:27 |
| finisherr | it just doesn’t work | 20:27 |
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| finisherr | the route that is in the vm is 169.254.169.254 gw 10.10.160.1 | 20:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | sounds about right | 20:28 |
| finisherr | the one that does workis 169.254.169.254 gw 10.10.160.0 | 20:28 |
| finisherr | but it’s not getting set at boot time | 20:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | what the default route point to? | 20:28 |
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| finisherr | 10.10.160.1 | 20:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | 160.0 is not a valid IP if your network is a /24 | 20:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | does that .1 work? | 20:29 |
| finisherr | This is what the dchp options look like | 20:29 |
| finisherr | https://gist.github.com/miroswan/53f074fa3f61af88e617 | 20:29 |
| finisherr | on the actual compute host | 20:29 |
| finisherr | that has dnsmasq running | 20:29 |
| finisherr | the .1 gateway does not allow me to curl that loopbacky address | 20:29 |
| finisherr | but the .0 gateway does once I add it manually | 20:30 |
| finisherr | I can see from this dhcp options file that it’s trying to add a route for the .0 address too, but I’m assuming since only one router option is set, it’s kinda ignoring the routes for that one | 20:30 |
| Sam-I-Am | almost seems like someone typo'd something when they created the subnet | 20:30 |
| Sam-I-Am | or somehow tried to mess with the metadata network that way | 20:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | you shouldnt see a route for 169 to .0 and .1 | 20:31 |
| finisherr | hmm | 20:31 |
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| finisherr | This is what I’m trying to fix | 20:31 |
| finisherr | I’ve been trying to hunt down how all of this stuff is setup | 20:31 |
| finisherr | like, where it gets the ips from to create these routes and such | 20:31 |
| finisherr | I do have a feeling it comes from dhcp from the code | 20:32 |
| finisherr | but how it actually generates the routes seems like a lot of tracing inputs and outputs of method calls | 20:32 |
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| finisherr | I’m looking around in here: https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/9e4627fd359690bc904f301959bc96deb19e768b/neutron/agent/linux/dhcp.py | 20:35 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i'm guessing someone is trying to manually inject a route for 169.254.169.254 via host-routes on the subnet | 20:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | which is conflicting with what openstack does automatically | 20:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | your problem is not in the code | 20:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | your problem is a misconfiguration | 20:36 |
| finisherr | Right, but I don’t know what configuration is responsible for this kind of thing | 20:36 |
| finisherr | so I was looking at the code to see if I could figure that out | 20:36 |
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| finisherr | ahh | 20:36 |
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| finisherr | Most of our openstack stuff is in chef but I can’t see any trace of these IPs anywhere | 20:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | try a subnet-show <subnet> | 20:37 |
| finisherr | at least the gateway IPs | 20:37 |
| finisherr | on the compute host? | 20:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | wherever you have a neutron client | 20:38 |
| finisherr | okay | 20:38 |
| finisherr | Unfortunately that command isn’t available | 20:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | neutron subnet-show ? | 20:38 |
| finisherr | Ok | 20:39 |
| finisherr | What subnet do I passit? | 20:40 |
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| finisherr | AHH | 20:40 |
| finisherr | okay | 20:40 |
| finisherr | I’ll gist it | 20:40 |
| finisherr | https://gist.github.com/miroswan/53f074fa3f61af88e617 | 20:40 |
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| finisherr | maybe the issue is the start address int he allocation pool? | 20:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah, what i thought | 20:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | couple of problems | 20:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | first is the allocation should not start at 0 | 20:41 |
| finisherr | Yeah | 20:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | it should be at least after .1, if that is a real gw on your network | 20:42 |
| finisherr | I’m thinking someone typo’d that | 20:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | the other thing is the host route for 169 | 20:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | that needs to go | 20:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | because the dhcp agent handles that route for you | 20:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | my guess is someone didnt know the allow_isolated_metadata option existed, and tried to hack around it | 20:42 |
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| finisherr | THank you so much | 20:43 |
| finisherr | this has been a huge thorn in my side over the past week or so | 20:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | you should also do a neutron router-list | 20:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | i dont think this network is using an openstack router, but it could be | 20:43 |
| finisherr | I really don’t know | 20:44 |
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| finisherr | I assume no | 20:44 |
| finisherr | fortunatley nothing is production in openstack | 20:44 |
| finisherr | and this is mostly a trial experimental platform | 20:45 |
| finisherr | but more and more folks are using it, so I’d like to figure out what I have here | 20:45 |
| finisherr | The guys who built it are no longer here | 20:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | sounds a bit suspect | 20:45 |
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| finisherr | yep, just trying my best. might re-do it | 20:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | theres plenty of help around here if you do | 20:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | just not usually on weekends | 20:46 |
| finisherr | Yeah | 20:46 |
| finisherr | for sure | 20:46 |
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| finisherr | Do you think the network configs come from neutron configs or some router on the network? | 20:49 |
| finisherr | our the response from that neutron command rather | 20:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | the neutron client just queries neutron | 20:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | the only thing your network might be doing is handling vlan tags and listening on the gateway ip | 20:50 |
| finisherr | would be so nice to have a network engineer haha | 20:52 |
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| finisherr | I think I have enough ammunition to tackle this tomorrow | 20:52 |
| finisherr | thanks | 20:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | hire one :) | 20:52 |
| finisherr | we’re trying | 20:52 |
| finisherr | so much open headcount right now | 20:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | although openstack is a bit different beast | 20:52 |
| finisherr | yeah, for sure | 20:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | big company? | 20:53 |
| finisherr | Startup(ish) | 20:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | us-based? | 20:53 |
| finisherr | just shy of 200 employees | 20:53 |
| finisherr | yeah | 20:53 |
| finisherr | We’ve got DevOps positions, network position and VP of Tech position actually | 20:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | thats a nice size | 20:53 |
| finisherr | It’s a really awesome company…just need to pony up on the IT staff | 20:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | where it based? | 20:54 |
| finisherr | Seattle | 20:54 |
| finisherr | I moved out here about 2 years ago for work. It’s really nice out here. Came from nyc | 20:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'm in colorado. seattle is nice, but not sure i could handle the gloom and drizzle. | 20:54 |
| finisherr | haha yeah | 20:55 |
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| finisherr | 5 months out of the year (mostly summer) is amazing | 20:55 |
| finisherr | no rain | 20:55 |
| finisherr | perfect weather | 20:55 |
| finisherr | the rest of it is just kinda overcast and drizzly | 20:55 |
| finisherr | but not the whole time. It’s kind of a myth | 20:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | doesnt it have one of the highest suicide rates? | 20:56 |
| finisherr | That’d be news to me | 20:56 |
| finisherr | I think people make stuff like that up so the rents don’t go up | 20:56 |
| finisherr | ha | 20:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | except they're already high | 20:56 |
| finisherr | relative to nyc and SF, they’re a lot lower | 20:56 |
| finisherr | depends on where you are | 20:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | true. | 20:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | ever listen to kexp? | 20:57 |
| finisherr | It’s about the only radio station i’d listen to really | 20:57 |
| finisherr | they have taste | 20:57 |
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| finisherr | for music at least | 20:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah. i've been listening religiously for years | 20:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | a day is not a day without john in the morning | 20:58 |
| finisherr | ha | 20:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | so whats with working on a weekend? | 20:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | you should be footballing :) | 20:59 |
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| clarkb | heh the lack or rain and snow has us in a drought. we need more | 20:59 |
| finisherr | I have an injured foot | 21:00 |
| finisherr | so I’m posted up on my couch | 21:00 |
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| finisherr | Was playing Dark Souls 2 for a while but then took a break to look at this issue | 21:00 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'm on my couch too. hour 7 of football. | 21:01 |
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| Sam-I-Am | another 5 or so left. | 21:01 |
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| phillw | hi, I've just run openstack-packstack and am getting the warning about not working with Network Manager running, despite https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1117277 being closed. | 21:29 |
| openstack | bugzilla.redhat.com bug 1117277 in openstack-packstack "Test Packstack/RHEL OSP on RHEL 7 nodes where Network Manager is NOT disabled" [Medium,Closed: errata] - Assigned to gchamoul | 21:29 |
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