Thursday, 2015-10-22

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domcSam-I-Am: do you have a minute for a couple of Neutron questions? Looking for some info so I can contribute to the docs01:22
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Sam-I-Amdomc: whats up?01:29
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domcSam-I-Am: I want to make sure I have a good understanding of Neutron before I start adding content to the intro to openstack networking pages.  I was wondering if there are some good specs (blueprints?) you know of that would be helpful01:34
domcAfter I messaged you I found this: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron01:35
Sam-I-Amdomc: blueprints/specs usually address new features01:35
Sam-I-Amhave you installed openstack with neutron before?01:35
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domcYup, I got a 3 node setup working recently01:36
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Sam-I-Amusing ovs?01:36
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domcI launched a couple of instances, all works well, experimenting on that setup was my next option.  Yes, using ovs.01:38
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Sam-I-Amhave you looked at the networking guide?01:38
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Sam-I-Amor even the install guide for liberty (which now uses linuxbridge)01:38
Sam-I-Amrather, the scenarios in the networking guide01:39
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domcI have not looked at the liberty guide yet, I'll take a look at that01:40
domcI did go over the scenarios in the networking guide01:41
Sam-I-Amdid you try deploying all of them01:41
Sam-I-Amor at least understanding whats going on01:41
Sam-I-Amsometimes it helps to deploy them and poke around01:41
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Sam-I-Amsee the namespaces, iptables rules, bridges, veth pairs, etc01:42
domcYes, experimenting more was definitely part of the plan01:42
Sam-I-Amdvr is probably the most complex thing01:42
Sam-I-Amwhats your eventual plan for contributions to neutron and/or the docs?01:43
domcbut I didn't really get a good enough sense of the full capabilities and limitations from the install guide01:43
Sam-I-Amthe install guide is pretty basic - enough to launch VMs01:43
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Sam-I-Amthe one for liberty has a different arch though01:44
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domcI'll check out the liberty one.  The plan was to start with some basic stuff you had suggested: to explain how things like bridges and namespaces compare to 'real life' networking things, how neutron uses those components, what the l2 agent does vs. what the l3 agent does, pros/cons, limitations...01:45
Sam-I-Amyup01:45
Sam-I-Amthats really what we need right now01:45
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Sam-I-Amalso need to update the scenarios for liberty01:46
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domcSo I have a pretty strong networking background which will help, but very new to openstack01:46
Sam-I-Amcisco? brocade?01:46
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domcNortel, Siemens, Enterasys... and others01:47
Sam-I-Amoh "odd stuff" :)01:47
domc:-)01:47
Sam-I-Ami didnt know enterasys was still around. when i was using that stuff, they had just bought cabletron... or were cabletron. i forget.01:47
domcSpin-off from Cabletron01:48
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Sam-I-Amenterasys was and i think still is popular in the edu land01:48
domcThey went through various phases of being bought and sold... the group I worked with are now part of Extreme01:48
Sam-I-Amoh yeah, extreme01:48
Sam-I-Ami remember a fun bug with their stuff01:49
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domcHope it wasn't something I wrote :-)01:49
Sam-I-Amvlans leaked out of ports not particular in those vlans01:49
Sam-I-Amparticularly01:49
Sam-I-Amwell, packets in vlans01:50
domcnice! not mine, phew01:50
Sam-I-Ami've done a lot of networking over the years01:50
Sam-I-Amanywhere from campus to isp01:50
domcDev or ops?01:50
Sam-I-Amboth01:51
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domcI've only ever been on the dev side01:51
Sam-I-Amwell, dev in the aspect of developing network archs and deploying them01:51
domcCool.01:51
Sam-I-Amplus some cruft that glued it all together, like radius, dhcp, and dns01:51
Sam-I-Amdeployed wireless when it wasnt even cool yet... that was fun.01:51
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domcChantry by any chance?01:52
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domcworked there as well01:52
Sam-I-Amorinoco01:53
Sam-I-Amand aironet pre-cisco01:53
domcnice01:53
Sam-I-Am1999-ish01:53
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domcAh - those were my Alcatel days, forgot about them...01:54
Sam-I-Amsome of it was pre-802.11b01:54
Sam-I-Amfun times... no ethernet faster than 100, so we used lane01:54
Sam-I-Amlane still gives me nightmares01:54
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domcSo all my background has been writing code for various L2/L3 stuff and some security (VPN, FW), so I should be able to help with the docs once I understand all the capabilities of Neutron and related stuff (agents, plugins, etc...)01:55
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Sam-I-Amthats cool. i was curious what brings you to openstack.01:55
domcBut there is a *a lot* of info to go through01:55
Sam-I-Amyeah, and some of that info is hard to find or out of date. openstack moves very quickly.01:56
Sam-I-Ami'm trying to fix a lot of that, but its an uphill battle01:56
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domcI've been following on the side-line for a while, and have always wanted to contribute to something I thought I could add value to and found fun, and OpenStack fits that bill very nicely01:57
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Sam-I-Amthere's definitely a need for people with networking experience from the software side. lots of people are familiar with conventional virt like vmware, but no networking. conventional networking folks haven't used linux.01:57
Sam-I-Ammost people can configure a nic, but things like namespaces, bridges, and routing are elusive.01:58
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Sam-I-Amand iptables, of course01:58
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Sam-I-Amso you're doing this in your spare time?01:59
domcI'm pretty comfortable with all that, so I should be able to help once I come up to speed with Neutron.  It's just slow going on spare time.01:59
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Sam-I-Amdoes your company have any interest in openstack?01:59
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Sam-I-Ammy job is contributing and i still cant find enough time01:59
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domcI hear you! I'm a freelancer now, one of my clients is looking at it and I'm helping them as best I can since I've been following it with interest for some time now... but my interest is personal, not driven by a company.02:02
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Sam-I-Amonce you get comfortable, you can take a look at the bp/specs for neutron mitaka02:04
Sam-I-Amif you're familiar with python, especially02:04
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domcyup, have done some work with python too02:04
Sam-I-Amhave you joined #openstack-neutron ?02:04
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domcNo, good point!02:05
Sam-I-Amalso weekly meetings02:05
Sam-I-Amsort of make yourself known when you're ready02:05
domcWeekly meetings on IRC?02:05
Sam-I-Amthose guys probably know what to stick you on first. could be bugs, could be specs, could be refactoring stuff to improve performance02:05
Sam-I-Amyeah02:05
Sam-I-Amhttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings02:06
Sam-I-Amthere's also a calendar out there of all openstack meetings02:06
Sam-I-Amthere's a docs meeting too02:06
domcGreat, thanks!02:06
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Sessois there a log file where api requests are logged?  I checked keystone.log but there isnt what I am looking for.02:07
Sam-I-AmSesso: did you enable debug mode?02:07
Sam-I-Amdomc: have you messed with gerrit yet?02:08
Sessono is that in keystone.conf?02:08
Sam-I-Amyes02:08
domcyes, I'm all set up02:08
Sam-I-Amhave you worked on a bug yet? docs are a bit easier for testing out all that stuff.02:08
Sam-I-Amincluding local build tools02:09
domcThat's my intention for the stuff we've been talking about.  Actually that was another question I had, I couldn't find a bug open for this improvement, was wondering if I should open one02:09
domcor do you think I should find a really easy one to begin with just to test out the process?02:10
Sam-I-Amwhat is 'this' improvement?02:10
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domcThe stuff we talked about for the 'intro to networking'02:11
Sam-I-Amahhh02:11
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Sam-I-Amthat counts too, and doesnt necessarily need a bug02:11
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Sam-I-Amit doesn't get much easier than this - https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/150550902:13
openstackLaunchpad bug 1505509 in openstack-manuals "Unnecessary comma" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Brian Moss (bmoss)02:13
Sam-I-Amsomeone is assigned, but i can move it02:14
domcHa! I'll take it!02:14
Sam-I-Amhold on a sec02:14
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Sam-I-Amdomc: feel free to assign yourself02:15
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Sam-I-Amits a lot better when you break something on a simple patch than writing a bunch of original content and losing it02:17
domcThanks! I'll have to revisit the steps to push a fix, it's been a while since I looked at that, I'll assign it now and try to get it in tomorrow02:17
domcagreed02:17
Sam-I-Amthen... networking guide :)02:18
domcYes!02:18
Sam-I-Amdid you find the instructions for installing tox?02:18
domcI'm really looking forward to contributing.  After the docs I hope to be contributing code.02:18
domcHmmm, tox does not sound familiar, not sure if I saw that02:19
Sam-I-Am(code AND docs)02:19
Sam-I-Ambecause they work best together... a problem we're trying to fix02:19
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domctrying to snag that bug..02:20
domcstill shows assigned to 'brian moss'02:21
Sam-I-Amdid you choose 'assign yourself' ?02:21
Sam-I-Amor assign me02:21
domcI did now :-)02:21
adun153I'm looking at this: https://www.openstack.org/software/roadmap/02:21
domcthanks02:21
Sam-I-Amdomc: yep, i see you took it02:22
adun153Zacar, Manila, Designate, and Barbican are not officially supported for Liberty?02:22
adun153Because it kind of says at the bottom that they are still under development.02:22
Sam-I-Amadun153: that might need some updating02:23
Sam-I-Amat least a few of those are not experimental iirc02:23
Sam-I-Amdomc: tox is the tool we use to build the docs02:25
Sam-I-Amthe ci system runs the same commands, but often its easier to make sure your docs build and look good prior to uploading a patch and waiting for ci to get around to it02:25
Sam-I-Amyou can put a web server on your box and have it serve up the built html output02:25
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domcPerfect, I'll look at the guides etc that are out there about contributing doc fixes and hopefully have time to do it tomorrow02:28
Sam-I-Amif i'm around i can help you through the steps02:28
Sam-I-Ami get to visit the dentist mid-day02:29
Sam-I-Amwhich is no fun02:29
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domcThat's very kind, thank you.  Funny, I get to visit him at 10:00AM02:29
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Sam-I-Amsomeone in #openstack-doc might be able to help too02:29
Sam-I-Amwhich is another channel you might idle in02:30
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Sam-I-Amman, the cubs cant get anything going02:30
domcI'm from Toronto, finally the Jays are giving us something to watch! (watched them win the world series a long long time ago)02:31
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Sam-I-Amthe last 2 games were crazy02:32
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Sam-I-Ami'm more of a football guy, and i bet if the same teams played each other 5-7 times, you wouldnt see much variance in who wins02:32
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domcI wish they had done a better job while playing at home, it's going to be tough to come back now02:33
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domcyup, tonight's score was a bit of a surprise02:33
Sam-I-Amhigh scoring baseball games are rare02:33
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Sam-I-Ammy football mind has trouble with baseball02:34
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domcit's been fun, hope they can keep it going even if they don't make it in the end02:34
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Sam-I-Amfootball is mostly short-term strategy and brute force02:34
Sam-I-Ambaseball is long-term strategy and luck02:34
domcagreed02:35
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Sam-I-Amalso, defense has control of the ball02:35
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domcinteresting observation, never thought of it that way02:36
Sam-I-Amruns are the offense punishing the defense for losing control of the ball02:37
domcI must say I'm more of a hockey guy, although living in Toronto doesn't really help much02:37
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baker_Go Royals! :)02:37
baker_(I'm from Kansas City)02:37
Sam-I-Amcool. i lived there for a bit.02:37
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Sam-I-Amdoing better than the chiefs02:37
domcbaker_: i think you've got this one02:37
baker_Starting 0-2 hurt the jays02:38
baker_@Sam-I-Am - I gave up on the Chiefs years ago.  Weren't worth the effort to invest time in02:38
domcYes, it's going to be very hard to win the next 2 in Kansas02:38
Sam-I-Ambaker_: they were good for a few years02:39
domcbut never say never02:39
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Sam-I-Amwith the cubs it might be sound to say never02:39
domclol02:39
baker_Yeah - when Joe Montana was the QB.  That put's it in to perspective a bit :)02:39
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Sam-I-Amwell, i'm a broncos fan... the worst 6-0 team in the league02:40
baker_Win and move on, that's all that matters.  Hope they bought Jamaal Charles something nice.02:41
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domcTime to sign off, Sam-I-Am, thanks for all your time today I really appreciate it.02:42
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Sam-I-Amdomc: aight. have fun at the dentist.02:42
domcThanks, you too!02:42
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Sam-I-Ambaker_: i think the broncos will fall to green bay in a couple of weeks02:43
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Sam-I-Amand then the next several teams will make it real - cincinatti and new england02:43
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baker_Where is that GB game?02:43
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Sam-I-Amdenver02:43
baker_That helps.02:43
Sam-I-Amyes, but we have the best non-throwing qb :/02:44
baker_I'd take him over Alex Smith any day.02:45
Sam-I-Amhaha02:46
Sam-I-Amwell, yeah..02:46
Sam-I-Amand then there's new england02:46
Sam-I-Amthat machine never stops02:47
baker_just like the cheating02:47
Sam-I-Amheh yep. i dont care for them.02:48
Sam-I-Ami was surprised how well the colts held up02:48
baker_I think the only people who do are NE fans02:48
Sam-I-Amdidnt become the crushfest everyone expected02:49
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baker_It's hard to just crush teams in the NFL02:50
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Sessoroot@ctrl1:~# keystone endpoint-list03:20
Sesso/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/keystoneclient/shell.py:65: DeprecationWarning: The keystone CLI is deprecated in favor of python-openstackclient. For a Python library, continue using python-keystoneclient.03:20
Sesso  'python-keystoneclient.', DeprecationWarning)03:20
SessoThe resource could not be found. (HTTP 404) (Request-ID: req-9e2c7371-26af-4744-a4d0-a979f2ba0961)03:20
SessoI changed the keystone adminurl in mysql DB to the external url:5000/v2.0 I can then get a connection from the outside network. BUT when I run CLI, I get a 404 error.03:20
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Sam-I-Amwhat ver is this? and how did you install it?03:21
Sam-I-Amalso, messing in the db is usually bad idea :/03:21
Sesso7.0 using fuel03:21
Sam-I-Amdid you try using the openstack client03:22
Sam-I-Am'openstack endpoint list'03:22
Sessoright now its fixed, because i put it back to the way it was.03:22
Sam-I-Amis the equivalent03:22
Sam-I-Amthe old keystone client does not support v3, so if fuel is using v3, it wont work03:22
morganthe keystoneclient CLI doesn't support v303:22
morganif fuel is using it as a library, it should work03:23
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Sessothe openstack module doesnt connect either and I lose all connection in horizon if i try to view users.03:24
Sessoguys on the openstack list said to just change the endpoint and that was all i had to do but i get that error.03:25
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Sam-I-Amwhat was wrong with the old endpoint?03:26
Sam-I-Amas in, you changed what to what03:26
Sessoi need to be able to access admin url endpoint for keystone from the outside world. I changed it from http://192.168.0.2:35357/v2.0  to https://public.bukucloud.com:5000/v2.003:27
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SessoI could access but it was broken when trying to create a tenant from outside the network with the 404 erorr.03:28
Sam-I-Amonly admin things are accessible from 3535703:28
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Sam-I-Am5000 doesnt make those things visible03:28
Sam-I-Amplus you added an 's', and there's more to TLS than the 's'03:28
SessoI use https to connect via web.03:29
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SessoIf you can make my admin endpoint accessible via web so my module will work, i would pay you lol03:35
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SessoI either need that or my instance to have access to my 192.168.0.0/24 network03:38
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changzhihi, may I ask a question? There is an error when I run "tox -e py26"03:59
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changzhiThe error is ERROR: InterpreterNotFound: python2.603:59
changzhiDid someone met it?03:59
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tristanCchangzhi: it seems like tox can't find python2.6 in your PATH04:01
notmynamechangzhi: what project are you testing?04:01
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changzhinotmyname:neutron04:01
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changzhi<tristanC>:My python version is 2.7.604:02
notmynamechangzhi: what tristanC said is the specific problem (can't find py26 in your PATH). but does neutro even support py26?04:02
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changzhinotmyname: may be I should install python 2.604:02
tristanCchangzhi: then you need to use py27 env, e.g., "tox -e py27"04:03
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changzhitristanC: yes, "tox -e py27" is okay04:03
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changzhitristanC: but "tox -e py26" is not okay04:03
tristanCchangzhi: according to neutron/tox.ini, only py27 is supported, so that's why it's not okay04:04
changzhitristanC: okay, if I install python 2.6 then add py26 into tox.ini. Will it be okay?04:05
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tristanCchangzhi: it might yes... why do you want to use python 2.6 ?04:06
Sam-I-Ami'm going to guess rh 604:07
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changzhitristanC: We add many new features to old neutron by python2.6. Now, we will upgrade neutron to the Liberty version.04:09
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prometheanfirewhy would all hypervisors not come online after upgrading to liberty?04:11
Sam-I-Amprometheanfire: so, db upgrade complete, all services restarted?04:12
prometheanfireSam-I-Am: yep04:12
* jidar groans04:12
jidarhow can I determine which "--provider:physical_network" to use for my external network?04:13
prometheanfireSam-I-Am: converted everything at home to ssl too, including rabbit, but that doesn't seem to be the issue, logs say they all connect to rabbit04:13
prometheanfirethough the compute nodes are not doing anything (nothing in debug logs for the last hour)04:13
Sam-I-Amjidar: depends on what you named them04:13
Sam-I-Amits arbitrary, but they're defined in the l2 agent config file04:13
jidarwhere would that be defined? I have a br-ex04:13
jidarit's blank in that file I think04:14
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Sam-I-Amjidar: bridge_mappings04:14
Sam-I-Amyou map an arbitrary network name to a bridge04:14
Sam-I-Amthat arbitrary name becomes physical_network04:14
jidarbridge_mappings =datacentre:br-ex04:14
prometheanfireit is rabbit that the status gets updated right?04:15
jidarheh, it's the other spelling :P04:15
Sam-I-Amprometheanfire: yep04:15
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prometheanfirewell I dunno then04:17
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Sam-I-Amprometheanfire: nothing in debug logs anywhere?04:19
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prometheanfirenope04:20
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prometheanfireI see the compute hosts talking to rabbit04:21
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prometheanfirevia tcpdump04:21
prometheanfirehow I'm checking is via hypervisor-list btw04:21
Sam-I-Amanything in service-list ?04:21
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prometheanfirejust the two computes down04:22
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Sam-I-Amdid you try restarting rabbit?04:23
prometheanfiremultiple times04:23
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Sam-I-Amprometheanfire: i'm out of ideas. might want to poke our nova folks. they're awake now.04:25
prometheanfireya04:25
prometheanfirewas talking to them about what looked like a nova issue (was a glance registry one)04:26
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Sam-I-Amdid glance break too?04:26
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prometheanfirebunch of things did, switched to ssl04:28
prometheanfirebut as an example of rabbit working...04:28
prometheanfirecinder service-list shows my storage node as up04:28
Sam-I-Amexcept that uses db04:28
Sam-I-Amfor whatever reason04:28
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prometheanfireit still has rabbit stuff04:29
prometheanfirebut ya, bad example04:29
Sam-I-Amyes, it does04:29
Sam-I-Ambut it doesnt use it for registration04:29
Sam-I-Amdont ask me why04:29
prometheanfirethere a service-list for neutron?04:29
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prometheanfireah, neutron agent-list doesn't show the nodes as up04:30
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Sam-I-Amso the agents say they're connected to rabbit?04:32
prometheanfireya04:33
Sam-I-Amand they're all connected to the same rabbit server?04:33
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prometheanfireyes04:33
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jidarpoo gas, external networking isn't going04:44
Sam-I-Amit happens04:44
jidarfirst time trying to get vlan based mapping going, last time I did physical interface04:44
jidarI'll look at it in the morning when I've got a fresh brain04:45
Sam-I-Amyour net names and vlan ranges are in [ml2_*] sections04:45
Sam-I-Amand then those net names need to map to bridges04:45
jidarhmmm04:45
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jidarthat part looks good, it's datacentre in ml2_conf.ini too04:47
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jidarbut I only see the vxlan segments mentioned, not the vlan for external04:47
jidar>network_vlan_ranges =datacentre:1:100004:48
jidarwait a second04:48
jidarmy vlan is 1900's04:48
jidarcould this be an issue if my external network is 1900? https://gist.github.com/f627b8f94b7951c5131e04:49
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jidarjust trying to understand in the topology how [ml2_type_vlan] plays a role04:50
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jidarthat's for tenant networks I imagine04:51
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Sam-I-Amthe range is what neutron will use for tenant networks, because tenants cannot specify values04:51
Sam-I-Amhowever, as an admin, you can specify whatever vlan you want04:51
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jidarok then, that's good - we're using only vxlan for tenant networks04:53
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Sam-I-Amyou still need to let ml2 know about the vlan networks04:54
Sam-I-Ambut you dont need to specify a range if they arent used by tenants04:54
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jidaryea, so the physical_network name matches properly in the ml2 configs as well as the l304:54
jidarer04:54
jidarthe router config, neutron net config, subnet config04:55
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prometheanfireSam-I-Am: system python wa 3.405:23
prometheanfireseems like openstack isn't ready for that yet05:23
placeedHi all, after keystone deployement i reveice the following error message : http://paste.ofcode.org/3cvhTMVavpWibUKBn9frJ505:23
placeedSomeone can help me ?05:23
placeedlook like problem with memcache http://paste.ofcode.org/ZMfCUYmyZYTAP9WpTqJ3ru05:25
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prometheanfireSam-I-Am: so that's nice05:26
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prometheanfireSam-I-Am: cya tomorrow :D05:34
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placeedIt look like memcache module is not installed : http://paste.ofcode.org/ZMfCUYmyZYTAP9WpTqJ3ru05:51
placeedSomeone have an idea ?05:51
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mewaldI am looking for a collection of policy.json files that implement a more powerful rbac model using keystone v3 concepts. Is there something like that available?07:20
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mewaldI tried using keystone policy.json from https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/etc/policy.v3cloudsample.json and replaced "admin_domain_id" with "default". If I am not mistaken this should allow me to list users as user "admin" with role "admin" in domain "default". But I get unauthorized. Why?07:44
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mewaldwell probably a question for the keystone channel ;)07:47
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onovydon't know if i understand it correctly, but 2x +2 CR => set +1 workflow. in 99 % review i saw this flow. is it right?07:51
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Guest59354hi. what could cause the problem that my VM can ping outside, but after 2 packets it drops. i can apt-get install but the packets are not comming in correctly07:52
Guest59354it takes years to update or install packages.07:53
Guest59354everything i ping, doesnt matter who or what it is, i receive 2 icmp packets and after that the destination is unreachable07:54
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asusk7m550Guest59354: Have you set the correct MTU size?08:04
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Guest59354asusk7m550: i dont use neutron just legacy networking08:05
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asusk7m550Guest59354: That's strange. Have you run tcpdump on your vm, compute nodes and gateway? Maybe you can see what is going wrong there.08:07
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Guest59354i am doing that on the compute. its still dumping. i cant test the gateway, because its from the hoster.08:08
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Muntanerhello to everyone! I successfully installed the new Liberty version on my server, Ubuntu 14.04 LTS. Now I'd like to add support for docker containers, I've read somewhere that this is recent. Anyone can give me some docs or a guide? :)08:12
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Guest59354asusk7m550: maybe i found my problem, but i dont know why and where i fix it. )(broadcast) who has -> gateway? tell -> VM)08:16
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MuntanerSamYaple, I'm pretty sure you know the answer :)08:31
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rmart04Morning! I have a question and I wonder if anyone would be able to point me in the right direction? I have quite a complicated setup going on, but the short of it is that when Neutron tries to tell Nova that a port has been created, its contacting the wrong URL. Does anyone know the Neutron API Directive that changes this? I have nova_url set in default but its being overridden.08:39
rmart04ConnectionRefused: Unable to establish connection to https://EXTERNALADDRESS:8774 rather than Internal URL08:40
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roziecheck you neutron configuration08:41
rozieand endpoint configuration in openstack08:42
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rmart04Hi Rozie, Endpoint configuration looks fine. And the config in neutron conf on the API server seems to be being overwritten with the PulicURL instead of the InternalURL I am specifiying09:05
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adun153Anybody here experienced with LVM in DRBD?09:36
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patitohi channel, how are u? I would like to know how is the best way to install designate in my openstack production?09:42
patitodeb packages09:42
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patitoor pip09:42
patitoubuntu 14.04 is my linux09:42
patitoi had some issues with oslo.config as well09:43
patitosomeone with similar issues?09:43
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adun153In DRBD, If I re-create an internal MD, will it delete the data?09:45
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maxxwareHi all, has ther been any change in behavior to errata.clone() between 5.6 and 5.7? When cloning on 5.6 all errata where copied to the new channwel, but in 5.7 none are copied...09:52
xiangxinyonghi guys. Could i ask a question about the bridge connection?09:53
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adun153xiangxinyong: Just ask. People will answer if they are active and have an answer. :)09:54
mewaldHow do I write a rule in polcy.json that allows access if "the user as the admin role on the domain"?09:54
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xiangxinyong<adun153>:OK09:55
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xiangxinyongI have a vm with one network card. In this vm, i set up an openstack env. I create a vm by openstack, and want to this new vm can connect this internet.09:58
xiangxinyongI want to use the bridge in the host vm.09:58
xiangxinyongI use neutron network. Do i need to configure the nova to achieve this feature?10:00
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xiangxinyongI have find these configurations in the former openstack version. public_interface=eth010:01
xiangxinyong  flat_interface=eth110:01
xiangxinyong flat_network_bridge=br10010:01
xiangxinyongbut in the latest version, i can not find these configurations10:01
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xiangxinyongLooking forward to your reply. Thanks very much.10:04
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mewaldxiangxinyong: I dont know about that setup you are trying to accomplish but we had problems with running an OpenStack Cloud on VMs in an OpenStack Cloud. The problem was that Security Group ACLs did not allow GRE traffic to flow. So this is going to be pretty difficult for you to solve as you have uncertainties of your setup working correctly, plus the factor of the underlying cloud block traffic in some10:11
mewald way. I am also a bit confused about your text above: I are saying you use neutron but float_network_bridge etc is from nova-network I think.10:11
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SamYapleMuntaner: youre saying you want to use the nova-docker driver instead of libvirt+qemu?10:28
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MuntanerSamYaple, yes, I like docker a lot10:29
Muntanerinstead or with10:29
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Muntanercan them live together?10:29
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SamYapleMuntaner: you can run multiple hypervisor types in the same openstack environemnt, yes. but it does get more complicated10:33
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MuntanerSamYaple, ok, so it's better to add a compute unit?10:35
Muntanerwith the container support?10:35
Muntanerat this time, I have an all-in-one openstack installation10:36
SamYapleoh. yea it has to be on a seperate machine10:36
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SamYapleyou cant run two 'hypervisors' on the same machine for all intents and purposes10:36
Muntanerfine SamYaple10:36
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Muntanerso when I'll add this support10:36
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Muntanerwill I see two availability zones?10:37
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MuntanerSamYaple, is there any good docs on how to do that?10:38
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SamYapleMuntaner: seperate availability zones is straight forward10:39
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SamYaplesetting up nova-docker is not10:39
Muntaneris hard to accomplish?10:39
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SamYapleits unstable from my experince. what version of openstack are you running?10:39
MuntanerSamYaple, I installed Liberty yesterday10:40
SamYapleoh you should be ok then10:40
SamYaplehttps://github.com/openstack/nova-docker/tree/stable/liberty10:40
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Muntanerso SamYaple10:41
MuntanerI take a new machine, install this on it10:41
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Muntanerand "attach" it to my existing installation?10:41
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SamYaplehave you ever added a compute node before?10:41
Muntaner(I'm asking you these noobish questions since I always did all-in-one installations :) )10:41
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MuntanerSamYaple, always all-in-one installations, so I didn't really "add" a compute nde10:43
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SamYapleMuntaner: you just need to provide it a valid config and openstack will pick up on it (rabbitmq)10:43
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MuntanerSamYaple, thanks, I'll try and give news :)10:45
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Guest59354can i create more bridges on the compute node?10:55
SamYapleGuest59354: to what end?10:55
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Guest59354between external and vm10:56
Guest59354(legcy networking)10:56
Guest59354because i cant run 2 different subnets on the same bridge10:56
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SamYapleim not sure I follow what you are asking, but you can get L2 communication from your vm to any existing network you want depending on how you set things up10:57
xiangxinyongmewald: Thanks. I have using the default security group.10:58
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Guest59354my main problem is that my VM cant reach the public internet. 2 packets received and all others drop. because my VM sends a broadcast to the gateway, but the bridge cant send it back, because there are 2 different subnets assigned on the same bridge.10:59
Guest59354icmp = 2 packets10:59
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mewaldxiangxinyong: To get my setup working I had to go to the hypervisor all of this was running on and insert a forwarding netfilter rule that allowed simply everything. For some reason specifiying the GRE IP proto number in the security group rule didnt work10:59
Guest59354tcpdump: ARP -> who has (gateway) tell (vm) ... all time.10:59
xiangxinyong<mewald>: can you paste your netfilter rule here or somewhere?11:00
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mewaldxiangxinyong: iptables -I FORWARD 1 -j ACCEPT ;)11:01
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xiangxinyongDo you run this command in the host vm or the created vm?11:02
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Guest59354SamYaple: I just want to know if it is possible to add a second bridge. If you are still confused, i have a better overview of my problem. https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/83531/kilo-compute-vm-network-fail-ping-only-recieves-2-packets/11:03
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liviuhy all, i have a question , asked it on openstack-101 but no one replayed so i'll retry here12:47
liviu  i really want to learn very well openstack, so i will need to buy myself a good computer. my budget is about 500E. So my question is .. Should i buy a 8 core AMD procesor, an 240GB SSD and 16GB of RAM to change my desktop OR should i buy a second hand server (like a proliant G6) with 2 processors of 4 cores and 16gb ram and all. So it's better a second hand server from 2010-2011 or modern components on a desktop enviroment. Thanks12:47
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zaoliviu: Note that servers are quite noisy, if you intend to have it in a home or office environment.12:49
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rozieliviu: I think you can play with openstack on virtual machines12:49
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rozieI'm pretty sure Mirantis has demo setup to download which is done in Virtualbox12:50
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rozieon one machine12:50
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liviui know about those. even about kolla. but i want to try a vsphere enviroment. so should i buy a modern desktop or a second hand server12:52
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roziebut if you really want to play with network, rendundancy and real hardware AND power usage is not an issue, you IMO need 2 PC's with virtualisation support for compute nodes, 2 switches, any two machines (can be old) for network nodes (neutron) and any two machines (also old) for controlers12:52
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rozieI'd buy second hand desktops. probably best power/cost ratio12:53
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rozieif you don't have rack and colocation, typical server gives you no benefits. and it's more expensive and louder12:54
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liviugreat option, but i realy don't want to full my flat with many desktops. wouldn't a vsphere option be good?12:54
liviuit's all about home training, no racks. and 500E budget12:55
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liviui could even buy 2 second hand servers proliants g512:56
liviubut they are so old :/12:56
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blaiseboolhello, how to get status while creating a volume with API REST ?12:56
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asmodaiWho do I need to poke to be able to get the review site to accept the data I fill in for the ICLA? Complains that it cannot store. :\12:57
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larsksasmodai: maybe try on #openstack-infra?  That's where folks hang out who mange the openstack infrastructure, which maybe would include problems with the review site...13:20
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cykacykahello, this might be slightly off topic, but you have this hacking linter for python, right ? How does one go about using it? https://github.com/openstack-dev/hacking13:25
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cool_larsks I need to configure a flat network on openstack Juno. let me send you some paste13:28
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larskscool_: sure.13:28
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cool_larsks http://paste.openstack.org/show/477164/13:34
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asmodailarsks: cheers13:35
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cool_larsks I'm on RedHat 7.113:37
* larsks looks .13:37
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larskscool_: so, one thing that strikes me immediately: you're combining external_network_bridge with provider external networks, and I'm not sure if that should work or not.13:39
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larskscool_: if you're going to use provider external networks, you would typically *not* set external_network_bridge (e.g., see http://blog.oddbit.com/2014/05/28/multiple-external-networks-wit/)13:40
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larsksThat page has I think a complete example of what you're trying to do.13:40
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cool_larsks someone have fixed the issue13:40
cool_larsks thanks for your help13:41
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larsksSure!13:41
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guruMeditatorgreetings. I am looking for a python function to retrieve an instance name given a UUID. Is such a function readily available?13:42
larsksguruMeditator: sure.  Have you taken a look at the 'novaclient' python module?13:42
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guruMeditatorThanks larsks. are you referring to "find_resource"?13:46
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larsksguruMeditator: no, the 'get' method for servers.  Just give it a UUID and it returns information about a server, which includes the name.13:47
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larsksguruMeditator: E.g., if I have a client object: client.servers.get('UUID')13:49
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larsksAnd then the 'name' attribute is the server name.  So: server = client.servers.get('UUID'); name = server.name13:50
guruMeditatorOk, thanks larsks! I will give it a go.13:50
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MuntanerSamYaple, I'm adding nova-docker support. I'm using as a new node a VM that is deployed inside another openstack all-in-one installation in my same subnet (192.168.0.62). Now, I want to make this module available on the openstack installation at 192.168.0.77 (I know this is weird :) )14:21
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MuntanerI think I'm missing this last step14:21
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john5223Sam-I-Am: ok so..15:07
Sam-I-Amjohn5223: yeah. quantum was renamed to neutron a long time ago, but devstack still calls it quantum in a few places. is this devstack?15:08
john5223if i boot an instance on the demo network everything works great. And then i can attach a public floating ip to it and that works too. But just wondering if I can also boot an instance directly onto the ext-net15:08
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john5223ok yea.. dang it. neutron15:08
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john5223i keep getting stuck in te past15:08
john5223the*15:08
Sam-I-Amwhat did you follow to config this?15:08
john5223kilo install15:09
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Sam-I-Amthe one from docs.openstack ?15:09
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john5223http://docs.openstack.org/kilo/install-guide/install/apt/content/neutron_initial-tenant-network.html15:09
john5223yup15:09
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Sam-I-Amyeah, that doesnt support attaching vms directly to the ext net15:09
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john5223ok cool. and just curious for my own knowledge, why is that?15:09
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Sam-I-Amyou would need that network available directly on the compute node15:10
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Sam-I-Amwith a physical interface (usually a vlan or something) and a mapping in the neutron configs15:10
john5223ah. gotcha15:10
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Sam-I-Amturns out, the install guide for liberty supports this15:10
Sam-I-Amthe architecture changed in it to support both options15:10
john5223interesting15:11
john5223thanks15:11
Sam-I-Amalso, the networking guide on docs.openstack has a variety of scenarios. the 'provider' scenarios support direct attachment to ext nets.15:11
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john5223so no more networking node? am i reading this correctly?15:13
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Sam-I-Amyeah. just a simplification.15:14
Sam-I-Amin production you'd probably want one or more of them15:14
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john5223so with liberty if compute connects directly to physical network why would i want the networking node for production?15:18
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john5223not much of a networking guy so hopefully these aren't bad questions15:18
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Sam-I-Amjohn5223: theres a difference in service level15:20
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Sam-I-Amconnecting a vm directly to a phys net is simply bridging... basically conventional virtualization functionality15:21
Sam-I-Amlike vmware15:21
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Sam-I-Amyour customers cannot create/modify/delete these networks15:21
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Sam-I-Amtrue cloud networking allows customers to do their own networking and external connectivity from those networks is handled by a neutron router that connects to a provider network owned by the administrator15:22
Sam-I-Amwhat you do depends on your use case, but i'm seeing a need for both options in the same environment, hence why the install guide supports both now15:22
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john5223Cool. Makes sense. Thanks Sam-I-Am15:23
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Sam-I-Amsure15:23
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john5223Sam-I-Am: can you put a quota on the bandwidth usage at the neutron level for a project? B/c you can do it on the flavor but thats per instance. I want to do it at the project level for bandwidth pooling.15:56
Sam-I-Ami dont know15:57
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john5223ok thanks15:59
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Erming__Has anyone tried with setting up a bridge for ib (infiniband) in Openstack?16:00
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xbainhi, I was wondering how to enable debug logging for the glanceclient when it is executed from nova-compute?16:06
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Sam-I-Amxbain: iirc, nova should use the library, not the client16:09
Sam-I-Amnova's debug mode should see that stuff i think16:09
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xbainright it uses the glanceclient libraries, but the debug code for the http calls isn't going into the nova-compute.log16:11
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zackchey folks. this feels like a dumb question, but isn't it possible to use 'openstack server list' to show a single instance by ID? (--reservation-id doesn't seem to work)16:11
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john5223zackc: openstack server show <id>16:13
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KhmarHi everyone. I'm totally new to Openstack and set up devstack on a VPS to give it a whirl. The whole installation process seems to have gone on fine and I've got the dashboard up and running. I created an instance with the cirros-0.3.4-x86_64-uec image and started it. The dashboard says "spawning" and it has stayed that way for a long time now. I tried to view the console and the logs but they're both empty. I'm not sure where to start16:14
Khmarsearching for the problem. What I expect is a running virtual server with a separate IP that I can atleast ping.16:14
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zackcjohn5223: ha! thank you!16:14
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john5223'openstack --help'  for available commands16:15
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john5223Khmar: gotta check your /var/log/nova logs to see what went wrong16:15
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KhmarIs that rooted at / john5223? I don't see such a directory on my system16:18
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john5223you dont have a /var/log directory?16:19
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KhmarI don't have a /var/log/nova file/directory.16:20
Sam-I-Amits devstack, there are no logs16:20
Sam-I-Amunless you turn them on16:20
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Sam-I-Amits all in a screen session16:20
john5223oh..well there ya go Khmar16:20
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Sam-I-Amyou could look at the n-api window in screen16:21
KhmarCool. I was just about to ask. I'll watch that and then spawn another instance. Thanks Sam-I-Am and john522316:21
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KhmarOkay... One thing that looks suspicious is the repeated "Policy check for os_compute_api:os-hide-server-addresses failed with credentials ..." message. Is that okay?16:25
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Khmar?16:29
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Sam-I-Ami... dont think so16:29
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Sam-I-Ambut i've never seen it before16:30
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KhmarIn any case, this new instance is just the same as the rest. Frozen and without console logs.16:31
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KhmarIS my assumption wrong? Once I start an instance, it should spawn and I should be able to connect to it or atleast view the console. Correct?16:33
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Sam-I-Amusually16:35
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Sam-I-Amis this using nova-net or neutron?16:35
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KhmarHow do I know? Like I said, I'm completely new to this.16:36
Sam-I-Amdid you change anything in the config before running stack?16:36
KhmarI added the lines mentioned in write_files section here http://docs.openstack.org/developer/devstack/guides/single-vm.html16:38
KhmarThe stuff that's put into local.conf16:39
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Sam-I-Amhmmm16:40
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Sam-I-Amdo you have any "q" panes in screen?16:40
Sam-I-Amor do you see n-net16:40
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KhmarI have n-net16:41
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KhmarNo q-*16:41
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xbainSam-I-Am: figured it out, had to set default_log_levels=........,glanceclient=DEBUG16:43
Sam-I-Amxbain: ahhh16:43
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KhmarDoes that change anything Sam-I-Am?16:45
Sam-I-Amwell, it means your problem is not in neutron16:46
Sam-I-Amso i'd check all of the n-* panes when you start a vm16:46
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Sam-I-Amalso see if 'nova service-list' works16:47
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KhmarI'll try service-list first16:47
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Khmarservice-list looks okay. Lists 6 things nova-* and all are enabled and up.16:49
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Sam-I-Amdoes the instance ever return an error?16:50
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Sam-I-Ammight take a few minutes16:50
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KhmarNope. I've waited for a day now with this.16:50
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Sam-I-Amyou'll need to check all of the n-* panes16:51
KhmarI'll do that.16:51
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Sam-I-Amis this devstack from master or a stable release?16:51
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KhmarJust cloned https://git.openstack.org/openstack-dev/devstack and used that. Must be master.16:52
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Sam-I-Amyep16:52
Sam-I-Amwhich may not work on any given day16:52
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KhmarSo I should shut it down and rerun start.sh off a stable branch?16:55
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KhmarI see stable/juno, kilo and liberty. Which one should I use?16:55
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sloweQuick DevStack question: how do I disable tempest configuration checking for Swift when Swift isn't present (by default) in DevStack?16:56
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Sam-I-AmKhmar: what are you trying to do?16:58
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KhmarSam-I-Am: Just trying out openstack. Nothing more. Familiarising myself withthe APIs and things17:25
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Sam-I-Amok17:28
Sam-I-Amyou might have better luck launching an all-in-one of openstack-ansible if you cant get devstack working17:28
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Sam-I-Amdevstack is kind of terrible for anything but gating commits :/17:29
Sam-I-Amor testing out patches you're writing17:29
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KhmarOkay... But I've already spent some time on this. I don't want to give up without seeing an insurmountable brick wall.17:30
KhmarWhich branch should I use?17:30
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Sam-I-Amstable/liberty17:30
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Sam-I-Amwhich requires that you redeploy anyway17:30
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KhmarRedeploy meaning unstack.sh and stack.sh again?17:31
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domcSam-I-Am: got that nasty comma removed, submitted and approved, first contribution done, yay!  Thanks again for all your help yesterday.17:32
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Sam-I-Amdomc: cool17:33
Sam-I-AmKhmar: better option - just rebuild your vps17:33
Sam-I-Amdevstack gets its fingers everywhere17:33
Sam-I-Amdomc: i'm working on a patch to update some neutron bits in the install guide17:33
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domcSam-I-Am: happy to code review if you like17:34
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KhmarCool. Thanks!17:36
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Sam-I-Amdomc: did you say you had a liberty env up using the install guide?17:44
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domcSam-I-Am: Not liberty, pretty sure it was Kilo.17:52
domcI say pretty sure because I had to re-purpose the server yesterday so it's down now17:52
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Sam-I-Amah17:59
Sam-I-Amwell, here's an opp to try the liberty guide out :)17:59
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domcExcellent, actually I wanted to switch to liberty so I can try Dockers so I'm happy to do that18:00
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domcordered a new server today so I'll do that as soon as it arrives18:01
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Sam-I-Amaight, i need to split - dentist18:04
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domcenjoy!18:05
Sam-I-Amheres my patch btw - https://review.openstack.org/23864918:05
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Sam-I-Amnothing major, just cleaning up some legacy stuff i dont think we need anymore (or my testing says we dont need anymore) plus fixing some packagin problems18:06
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Sam-I-Amstill have more work to do on it when i get back, so marking it WIP for now18:06
domcI'll take a look as soon as I get a chance, thanks18:06
domcsounds good18:07
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swat30hi all18:52
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swat30recently did an upgrade all the way from Grizzly Quantum > Juno Neutron on an OpenStack install we have here18:52
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swat30did the ML2 conversion etc.18:53
swat30all existing stuff is working fine, however we're having an issue when creating new ports specifically for instances18:53
swat30Device <UUID> requested by agent ovs-agent-<compute_node> on network <UUID> not bound, vif_type: unbound18:53
swat30the ovs ports are getting thrown on dead tag18:54
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swat30using ML2+OVS+GRE18:54
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swat30if I manually set the proper binding info in ml2_port_binding and restart openvswitch agent, the port comes up properly19:06
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pl33g0rSam-I-Am: Hi is that good time to talk?20:11
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Sam-I-Ampl33g0r: i'm around for a bit21:01
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pl33g0rSam-I-Am: so i created all interfaces21:11
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john5223anyone running multi-hypervisor openstack?21:13
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pl33g0rSam-I-Am: is my next step should b trying to spin up an instance?21:15
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jiggyhi. How can i change the default MAC that (nova-legacy-networking) would assign a VM21:25
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Sam-I-Ampl33g0r: all interfaces?21:27
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pl33g0rSam-I-Am: when we spoke last time u said i need to create br-int interface21:35
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Sam-I-Amnot sure i said that. openvswitch should create that for you.21:42
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pl33g0rSam-I-Am: it did but i assigned external IPs to them :(21:43
pl33g0rSam-I-Am: br-int should have no external IPs21:43
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Sam-I-Amwhat?21:46
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jiggyIs there a simple config file from nova-network where the MAC-Address (fa:16:3c) for the bridge & guests is specified and can be changed?21:51
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pl33g0rSam-I-Am: I have hypervisor running all openstack instances (compute node, controller, and network node) when i tried to create instance i got " [Error: No valid host was found. There are not enough hosts available.]." error you said that it occurs due wrong network configuration21:52
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jiggypl33g0r: Your Controller maybe or rabbit is not entirely connected to your nodes. Check the logs from your node and rabbit to see if the Controller knows the server is talking to it.21:54
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pl33g0rjiggy: node you mean compute node?22:06
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horsehi all, anyone using VIO here? (vmware integrated openstack)22:11
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jiggyif someone could take a moment and help an admin in need ^^ https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/83570/nova-network-how-changing-default-mac-address/22:16
jiggythanks!22:16
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jiggypl33g0r: yes ... every server you use is a node. even storage or network. look at all the logs.22:17
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pl33g0rjiggy: http://paste.openstack.org/show/477203/22:28
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Sam-I-Ampl33g0r: whats the output of nova service-list and neutron agent-list22:29
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pl33g0rhttp://paste.openstack.org/show/477204/22:31
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pl33g0rSam-I-Am: http://paste.openstack.org/show/477204/22:32
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Sam-I-Amhmmm interesting22:34
Sam-I-Ameach compute node should have an openvswitch agent on it22:35
Sam-I-Amand also not sure why compute01 is down22:35
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pl33g0rSam-I-Am: I have one compute node only i removed 0122:35
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pl33g0rSam-I-Am: I can provide network configs from neutron and computenode if it helps22:36
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Sam-I-Amwas this on ubuntu?22:38
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pl33g0rSam-I-Am: CentOS722:38
Sam-I-Amfirst thing... did you disable the host-based firewalls on all of the hosts?22:39
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Sam-I-Amit looks like you did, but might as well check22:40
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pl33g0rSam-I-Am: http://paste.openstack.org/show/477206/22:45
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pl33g0rSam-I-Am: it is dead on all nodes22:47
Sam-I-Amyour compute node has a different password for rabbit than the network node22:47
Sam-I-Amalso, auth_strategy belongs under [DEFAULT]22:48
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Sam-I-Amdoes your external network connect to all of your compute nodes?22:49
Sam-I-Amin other words, do you want to attach your VMs directly to the external network, or use tenant/private networks?22:49
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Sam-I-Amyour config files have lots of consistency problems22:49
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pl33g0rSam-I-Am: as for password it was my typo its password everywhere22:50
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pl33g0rSam-I-Am: yes i want external network to b attached to VMs directly22:51
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Sam-I-Amso get rid of the [agent] tunnel_types thing22:52
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Sam-I-Amyou're not using tunnels22:52
Sam-I-Amyou also dont need local_ip anywhere22:52
Sam-I-Amor tunnel_id_ranges22:53
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Sam-I-Amservice_plugins needs to be "service_plugins =" with no value22:53
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pl33g0r[agent] tunnel_types = flat on network and compute node correct?22:55
pl33g0rshould not b in the config correct?22:55
Sam-I-Amget rid of it22:55
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pl33g0rSam-I-Am: removed tunnels from ml2.ini and service_plugins = in neutron.conf22:58
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Sam-I-Amnow restart neutron-server on the controller and restart the openvswitch agent everywhere22:59
Sam-I-Amthen do neutron agent-list22:59
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Sam-I-Amyou didnt paste the entire neutron.conf did you?23:00
pl33g0rSam-I-Am: I did23:02
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Sam-I-Amthere should be more in there23:03
pl33g0rSam-I-Am: I copied old conf and created a new one with items listed in document i followed23:04
pl33g0rSam-I-Am: http://paste.openstack.org/show/477207/23:04
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Sam-I-Amyou're still missing the ovs agents on the compute nodes23:04
Sam-I-Amwhats in the ovs agent log file?23:04
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Sam-I-Amyou also dont need any l3 agents23:05
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Sam-I-Amso you can just stop that service on the network node23:05
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pl33g0rSam-I-Am: http://paste.openstack.org/show/477208/23:07
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Sam-I-Amthats the ovs log, not the agent log23:08
Sam-I-Amthe agent log is in /var/log/neutron23:08
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pl33g0ri c only openvswitch-agent.log23:09
Sam-I-Amthats the one23:10
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pl33g0rhttp://paste.openstack.org/show/477211/23:11
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Sam-I-Ampl33g0r: did you get rid of tunnel_types on all nodes?23:12
Sam-I-Amthat tells me you didnt, or you didnt restart the openvswitch agent23:13
Sam-I-Am(which is different than openvswitch)23:13
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pl33g0r_Sam-I-Am: http://paste.openstack.org/show/477215/ i think it looks better now23:49
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Sam-I-Amyes23:51
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pl33g0r_Sam-I-Am: should i try to create another instance?23:55
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Sam-I-Ampl33g0r_: do the ovs agents on the compute nodes appear in neutron agent-list?23:56
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pl33g0r_looks good to me http://paste.openstack.org/show/477217/23:58
Sam-I-Amyou didnt start one on compute01?23:59
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pl33g0r_no compute01 is removed23:59

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