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| phd2 | anybody here use tempest | 00:26 |
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| phd2 | saw this error tempest_lib.exceptions.InvalidCredentials: Invalid Credentials | 00:26 |
| phd2 | Details: Credentials are: {'username': 'admin1', 'project_name': None, 'project_domain_id': None, 'user_domain_id': None, 'tenant_id': None, 'user_domain_name': None, 'domain_name': None, 'tenant_name': None, 'user_id': None, 'project_id': None, 'domain_id': None, 'project_domain_name': None} Password is defined. | 00:26 |
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| Sam-I-Am | sounds like it lacks credentials | 00:27 |
| phd2 | Sam-I-Am: so yeah and i put in credentials | 00:28 |
| phd2 | i put in admin_username and username | 00:28 |
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| phd2 | and their corresponding passwords | 00:29 |
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| Sam-I-Am | phd2: where is it reading them from? | 00:52 |
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| phd2 | all from tempest.conf | 01:06 |
| phd2 | Sam-I-Am: running it as ./run_tempest.sh -C etc/tempest.conf -V | 01:06 |
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| phd2 | There is a subtle issue with tempes | 01:21 |
| phd2 | what time are people usually on | 01:22 |
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| placeed | Hi all ! Sometime keystone stay blocked on "POST /tokens?" | 10:53 |
| placeed | After restarting keystone service it work for a while but same problem few minutes/hours after | 10:53 |
| placeed | someone can help me ? | 10:53 |
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| avozza | my glance image-list works while my nova image-list doesnt. I set api_servers under [glance] in nova.conf to point the loadbalanced ip, is that related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1420008 (as mentioned at the bottom of https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/66759/nova-image-list-returns-http-500/)? can nova talk to glancev2? RDO/Liberty fwiw | 11:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1420008 in Glance "Owner change doesn't work in v2" [High,Fix released] - Assigned to Fei Long Wang (flwang) | 11:14 |
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| avozza | logs here: http://paste.openstack.org/show/477948/ and http://paste.openstack.org/show/477949/ | 11:17 |
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| avozza | nvm, was a bad password in registry.conf! | 11:19 |
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| zao | The simple mistakes are the best. | 11:23 |
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| Diplomat | I once forgot to add = after one config variable :P had tons of fun to find that mistake | 11:31 |
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| avozza | fail fast, fail often :) | 11:36 |
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| Lehtu | I'm trying to detach volume from instance and that does not work since OpenStack thinks it's mounted as vda when it's actually vdd. | 12:04 |
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| Lehtu | Any comments how can I change that information? | 12:04 |
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| placeed | Hi all ! My keystone have problem sometime ... It stay blocked on keystoneclient.auth.identity.v3 Making authentication request to http://C007-OSCTRL-01.cortex.mgnt:35357/v3/auth/tokens | 12:54 |
| placeed | Someone can help me | 12:54 |
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| jpavlik | test | 13:01 |
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| liqw | hello ;) | 13:06 |
| jpavlik | PING 1446642421 500856 | 13:07 |
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| placeed | Hi | 13:18 |
| placeed | someone can help me with keystone authentification issue ? | 13:18 |
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| jpavlik | what is the issue with keystone? | 13:26 |
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| placeed | jpavlik : Sometime the services stop to get token and stay blocked on keystone.common.wsgi [-] POST /auth/tokens? | 13:45 |
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| placeed | I tried with apache wsgi or keystone wsgi and i get the same issue | 13:47 |
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| placeed | If i restart keystone, the service work again ... but few minutes after, same issue | 13:48 |
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| urthmover | I have created 4 servers using 14.04. Each server has two nic's statically assigned (one nic for public and the other for private). 3 of the 4 can ping eachother and one cannot ping the other three. The other nic on each server is pingable to/from all 4 servers. Will someone take a moment to help me triage this. | 14:22 |
| urthmover | route -n on each servr is identical. The static ip assignments on the problematic s erver looks accurate | 14:22 |
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| urthmover | http://hastebin.com/usotarajob.hs | 14:24 |
| tenshi | any iptables ? also pay a look to your network configuration for the defective one | 14:24 |
| tenshi | netmask issue ? | 14:24 |
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| pece | In Liberty is is possible to switch to the old "Network Topology" view? | 14:38 |
| Bo7a | Hi all. Is there a specific process for deleting an external network? I have removed all the routers an instances on that network but I can not delete the subnet nor the network itself | 14:40 |
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| Sam-I-Am | Bo7a: neutron net-delete $extnet ? | 14:40 |
| jpavlik | Bo7a: check neutron port-list | 14:40 |
| jpavlik | and delete ports | 14:40 |
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| Bo7a | thanks guys, I thought I did that but I'll double check | 14:41 |
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| jpavlik | placeed: and what about keystone logs? | 14:41 |
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| placeed | jpavlik : Nothing special in logs ... I just see the client wait for POST /auth/tokens? | 14:43 |
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| placeed | In client side, it wait for a timeout | 14:44 |
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| placeed | jpavlik : Strange things ... "openstack endpoint list" work fine while "openstack server list" stay blocked | 14:45 |
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| jpavlik | placeed: can you provide me keystonerc | 14:50 |
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| jpavlik | or what you sourced? | 14:50 |
| jpavlik | placeed: what is your release? | 14:51 |
| placeed | You mean keystone.conf file ? | 14:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | well, openstack server list calls a different api | 14:51 |
| placeed | Juno | 14:51 |
| placeed | in ubuntu 14.04 | 14:51 |
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| Sam-I-Am | and i'd also avoid using the openstack client in anything before kilo | 14:52 |
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| _nick | has anyone had a problem with qrouter network namespaces not being deleted on a network node, even though 'router_delete_namespaces' is set to true? | 14:53 |
| _nick | the router itself is deleted, but the namespaces (and the ovs ports) linger like a bad smell | 14:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | _nick: version? | 14:54 |
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| placeed | Ok ... so with the web interface it should work ....? | 14:54 |
| _nick | Sam-I-Am: juno | 14:54 |
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| Sam-I-Am | is anything in those namespaces? | 14:55 |
| naldilala | Hello | 14:55 |
| placeed | In this documentation (http://docs.openstack.org/juno/install-guide/install/apt/content/) they use openstack client | 14:55 |
| _nick | yeah, they still have interfaces plumbed - and addresses assigned | 14:55 |
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| _nick | which causes a problem with qg interfaces as they can have an ip address allocated that neutron believes is otherwise free for someone else to allocate | 14:55 |
| placeed | Sam-I-Am : What is the api used by server list ? | 14:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | placeed: incorrect. that documentation uses the keystone client. | 14:56 |
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| placeed | Oh ok ... I will try directly with the web interface | 14:57 |
| jpavlik | placeed: please run standard clients | 14:57 |
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| jpavlik | placeed: keystone tenant-list, glance image-list, nova list, cinder list, neutron net-list | 14:58 |
| jpavlik | placeed: this way you find what module is broken | 14:58 |
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| Sam-I-Am | openstack client works starting in kilo, but only with keystone | 14:58 |
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| Sam-I-Am | also, a new deployment probably shouldnt use juno these days | 14:59 |
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| placeed | jpavlik : I will try now | 15:00 |
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| placeed | http://paste.ofcode.org/hk4Ni7grKdqEg3FxjeGsXN | 15:01 |
| placeed | strange | 15:01 |
| placeed | glance and nova client work | 15:02 |
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| placeed | but i've this issue with keystone | 15:02 |
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| placeed | jpavlik : Issue append with keystone client only : http://paste.ofcode.org/hk4Ni7grKdqEg3FxjeGsXN | 15:02 |
| placeed | Sam-I-Am : Issue append with keystone client only : http://paste.ofcode.org/hk4Ni7grKdqEg3FxjeGsXN | 15:03 |
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| Sam-I-Am | 404 usually means something isn't listening where the client thinks it is listening | 15:04 |
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| placeed | Sam-I-Am : service is launched ... http://paste.ofcode.org/GFSh8XMsf3y4NXXRVYtSaz | 15:05 |
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| placeed | curl http://C007-OSCTRL-01.cortex.mgnt:35357/v3 work fine | 15:05 |
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| Sam-I-Am | keystoneclient does not support keystone v3 | 15:06 |
| Sam-I-Am | and openstackclient is broken in juno | 15:06 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so that's probably your problem | 15:06 |
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| placeed | But i followed the documentation ... | 15:07 |
| placeed | Ok i need to change v3 by v2 ? | 15:07 |
| placeed | v2.0 ? | 15:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | the juno docs do not use v3 | 15:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | you're probably using the wrong docs with the wrong version of openstack | 15:07 |
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| Sam-I-Am | this does not work | 15:07 |
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| _nick | you can use openstackclient with juno, you just have to be careful which version | 15:07 |
| _nick | also you can run keystone v2 and v3 side by side if you're that way inclined | 15:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | _nick: yeah, but thats sort of fixed using distro packages | 15:08 |
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| _nick | i use pyenv and pip for that stuff (on my workstation) | 15:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | sure, but most people dont get venvs and just use pip on the host, which often breaks distro python deps | 15:08 |
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| * _nick nods | 15:09 | |
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| _nick | pyenv is about as simple as it gets mind | 15:09 |
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| Diplomat | Guys, quick question.. do I have to put my HDDs in RAID for object storage and cinder ? | 15:09 |
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| Sam-I-Am | Diplomat: no | 15:09 |
| placeed | Sam-I-Am : Sorry .... I run Kilo not Juno | 15:09 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you can run all of that on a single drive :) | 15:09 |
| Diplomat | Cool beans | 15:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | and hate yourself when it dies | 15:10 |
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| Diplomat | Well lol yes | 15:10 |
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| Sam-I-Am | unless you have some sort of performance issues, swift likes a lot of single drives in many locations | 15:10 |
| Diplomat | but I mean like.. when I have 8 HDDs.. will it create copies by itself or it makes sense to raid them into RAID10 ? | 15:10 |
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| placeed | Sam-I-Am : keystone tenant-list don't work with kilo ? | 15:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | if you tell swift to use 8 drives, it will make however many copies of each object as you configure | 15:11 |
| Diplomat | Into different drives ? | 15:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | cinder requires redundancy at the disk level | 15:11 |
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| Sam-I-Am | placeed: no, because the kilo docs use keystone v3 | 15:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | starting with kilo, at least using the installation guide at docs.openstack.org, you must use 'openstack' for keystone management because of v3 | 15:12 |
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| Sam-I-Am | however, the other services still use the conventional clients like python-glanceclient | 15:12 |
| Diplomat | Ok so.. Cinder's HDDs go into RAID1 or 10 and Swift/Ceph will have tons of non raid drives? | 15:12 |
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| Sam-I-Am | more or less | 15:13 |
| placeed | Sam-I-Am : So .. I come back to my first problem : "openstack endpoint list" work fine while "openstack server list" don't work | 15:13 |
| placeed | And not all time | 15:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | openstack server list talks to nova, not keystone | 15:13 |
| placeed | it look like hang in keystone side | 15:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | does 'nova service-list' work? | 15:13 |
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| placeed | Nop | 15:14 |
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| placeed | Sam-I-Am : Nop it stay waiting | 15:14 |
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| Diplomat | Hm.. raid10 is a bit too gangsta.. but if it must be done then it must be done. What kind of discs you (@Sam-I-Am) would you use for Cinder? besides SSD, SAS or SATA3? | 15:15 |
| Diplomat | Object storage could be SATA3 I guess | 15:15 |
| placeed | Sam-I-Am : How to troubleshoot nova ? | 15:17 |
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| Sam-I-Am | Diplomat: how much performance do you need? | 15:20 |
| Diplomat | It depends | 15:20 |
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| Sam-I-Am | swift benefits from a lot of plain old disks | 15:20 |
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| Diplomat | Yeah, that's what I'll use I guess.. but I'm worried about cinder atm because I want to mount them to root if possible | 15:21 |
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| Diplomat | Technically it could be cheaper to get SSDs instead of SAS | 15:22 |
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| MentalRay | here early Sam-I-Am | 15:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | MentalRay: not too early | 15:23 |
| MentalRay | ah true | 15:23 |
| MentalRay | central time? | 15:23 |
| Sam-I-Am | mtn | 15:23 |
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| Bo7a | Is there a way to increase horizon timeouts without a restart of the service? I am getting pretty tired of having log in seven thousand times a day :p | 15:26 |
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| Sam-I-Am | Bo7a: its based on the token valid time | 15:26 |
| Bo7a | Ahh, cool. Thanks | 15:27 |
| jpavlik | Sam-I-Am: you can use keystone with v2 on Kilo | 15:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | there's a config option in horizon to extend it, but keystone must support a token valid time at or greater | 15:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | jpavlik: sure | 15:27 |
| jpavlik | Sam-I-Am: it depens which variables you source. I am using boht | 15:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | the install guide never disables v2, it just prefers v3 starting with kilo | 15:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | not all services fully supported 3 at the time | 15:28 |
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| Sam-I-Am | oddly, using /v2.0 in the endpoint url supports 2 and 3 | 15:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | i would like to use /v3, but it currently breaks a few things | 15:28 |
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| jpavlik | e.g. Heat must have v3 otherwise you cannot use waitconditions etc. | 15:31 |
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| kbringard | jpavlik is right, because anything which requires heat to make subsequent calls later needs domain support in keystone | 15:35 |
| kbringard | which is a v3 only construct | 15:35 |
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| Sam-I-Am | we've been using domains in the heat part of the install guide since kilo | 15:37 |
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| Sam-I-Am | more or less when we started using keystone v3 | 15:38 |
| kbringard | yea, same, except s/kilo/icehouse/ | 15:39 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the install guide wasn't very good at enabling new things back then | 15:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | took a few cycles to get it on track | 15:41 |
| kbringard | yea… | 15:41 |
| kbringard | hehe | 15:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | much better now though | 15:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | although i'm currently trudging through ceilometer updates for liberty and... sigh. | 15:41 |
| kbringard | oh man | 15:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | i always leave it for last, but not because its the best | 15:42 |
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| kbringard | when I first tried to upgrade Cactus to Diablo, I decided the best upgrade path was greenfield new releases, don't spin up resources in the old and eventually migrate through attrition | 15:42 |
| kbringard | I still believe that was, and is, the right choice | 15:42 |
| kbringard | :-D | 15:42 |
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| Sam-I-Am | its getting better | 15:43 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i'm trying to get some support for writing more generic upgrade instructions | 15:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | there's a blueprint around here somewhere | 15:44 |
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| MentalRay | anyone had issue with debian8 and metadata? | 15:49 |
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| Sam-I-Am | like what? | 15:53 |
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| Diplomat | Man, it's actually pretty difficult to chooose between ceph and swift + cinder | 16:11 |
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| goodygum | Diplomat: choose ceph | 16:12 |
| goodygum | works flawlessly | 16:12 |
| evilrob | that | 16:13 |
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| Diplomat | It sure does.. but does it have rest api ? I kinda like that rest api | 16:13 |
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| evilrob | to do what? | 16:13 |
| evilrob | object storage? | 16:14 |
| Diplomat | I need to do both and yes for object storage | 16:14 |
| notmyname | Diplomat: if you're using block, ceph is something to consider as a cinder driver. if you're interested in object storage workloads, that's exactly what swift is built for, especially when you get to appreciable scale | 16:14 |
| evilrob | radosgw is the keyword you want to search for | 16:14 |
| evilrob | radosgw is a swift gateway in front of ceph | 16:14 |
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| evilrob | comes as part of ceph. | 16:15 |
| notmyname | (a reimplementation of some of swift's functionality) | 16:15 |
| evilrob | yes. it's not a complete reimplementation. true | 16:15 |
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| goodygum | BTW guys, I want my Nova to inform me about creation and deletion of my VMs thru RPC call | 16:16 |
| evilrob | for instance (this is the one I hear most about) bucket names are a global namespace. so you create one named "test" and then I can't. | 16:16 |
| goodygum | like it's sent via RabbitMQ and so on | 16:16 |
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| Diplomat | evilrob, that might not be the best | 16:16 |
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| goodygum | where do I have to 'mount' my notofication solution to be as close to that info as possible? | 16:16 |
| Diplomat | notmyname: well i kinda think i should go that way yes | 16:16 |
| evilrob | it's good enough for S3 | 16:16 |
| goodygum | nova-conductor? | 16:16 |
| Diplomat | evilrob, it's really difficult to find good bucket names lol | 16:17 |
| Diplomat | like .coms | 16:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | goodygum: usually its on the compute nodes... 'notification_driver' | 16:17 |
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| goodygum | Sam-I-Am: mhm, I see | 16:17 |
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| Sam-I-Am | goodygum: sends to the notifications.info queue | 16:17 |
| notmyname | Diplomat: what are looking to do with object storage? what's your use case? | 16:17 |
| goodygum | so I just need to grab that info from there and send it thru RPC, right? | 16:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | you can do whatever you want with what ends up in the notification.* queues | 16:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | normally ceilometer consumes those | 16:18 |
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| Diplomat | notmyname: for backups mostly.. cpanel backups, vm backups, my personal backups | 16:19 |
| notmyname | Diplomat: cool. are you using an existing backup tool or are you doing your own implementation? | 16:20 |
| Diplomat | i'm using s3 atm for cpanel, nothing for vm and dropbox for personal stuff | 16:20 |
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| Diplomat | this rest api would be brilliant to wget a backup and just restore it.. this is why i like it + i can add it to my software as well | 16:22 |
| ZiLi0n | Hello everyone. I have recently installed OpenStack. My VM instances have a 1GB of disk, hovewer I do not have volumes created... where is the difference with volumes? where is this data being stored? | 16:23 |
| Sam-I-Am | volumes are cinder | 16:23 |
| Diplomat | notmyname, but with cinder, i'd like to set up some of my vms with a huge volume (databases etc) and for some i'd like to boot from that volume | 16:24 |
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| notmyname | Diplomat: yeah, that makes since. and that's something you'd use cinder for. combined with swift as a pool of storage for backups, snapshots, and other application storage, you'd have a pretty capable system | 16:25 |
| Diplomat | yup, but then again ceph looks nice too | 16:26 |
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| Diplomat | and im not sure if swift still has that 5gb file limit before it starts breaking it up | 16:26 |
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| ZiLi0n | so I don't have volumes, but if I stop the VM, the data is not lost. | 16:26 |
| Diplomat | but i think that souldnt be a big problem.. not sure how it affects the performance or something | 16:26 |
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| notmyname | Diplomat: per object limits in swift are 5GB (settable in a config). and you can tie together objects into a "large object" that is essentially unbounded | 16:27 |
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| notmyname | Diplomat: many backup software products do this | 16:27 |
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| Diplomat | okay so for object storage it still makes sense to pick swift then (my backups are sometimes 100gb+)? | 16:28 |
| ZiLi0n | so I don't have volumes, but if I stop the VM, the data is not lost. where the data of the VM stored then? | 16:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | stopping doesnt mean deleting | 16:28 |
| ZiLi0n | I see, I guess it stays in memory. As as soon as I terminate the VM, the data is then gone | 16:29 |
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| ZiLi0n | so therefore I need a volume | 16:29 |
| notmyname | Diplomat: I think swift makes the most sense when you're looking for object storage | 16:29 |
| ZiLi0n | sorry, I barely have knowledge about storage | 16:30 |
| notmyname | Diplomat: backups are a common way people start using object storage before expanding into storing other application data | 16:30 |
| Diplomat | notmyname, Makes sense.. and maybe ceph with cinder ? | 16:30 |
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| notmyname | Diplomat: and I know that there are several backup vendors that already support storing stuff in swift | 16:31 |
| notmyname | Diplomat: to be fair, I work on the object storage side of things. you can use a lot of different drivers for block storage with cinder. ceph is one of them | 16:31 |
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| Diplomat | Well.. my issue atm is to have my volume as fast as possible so I can install OS in it etc, that's my biggest worry atm | 16:33 |
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| ZiLi0n | Sam-I-Am: with volumes, will data of a particular VM be persisted? Can each VM instace has its own independent volume (is that the idea)? | 16:34 |
| notmyname | Diplomat: and in the openstack world, you'll need to look for a cinder driver for that. swift will not provide attachable volumes for your VMs (bootable or otherwise) | 16:34 |
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| Diplomat | Yes ofc, I was talking about cinder + ceph | 16:34 |
| Diplomat | or just cinder | 16:35 |
| Diplomat | or something fancier in the future | 16:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | ZiLi0n: yes, it wont go away if you delete the vm... unless you tell it to delete the volume | 16:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | notmyname: do you know much about ceilometer and swift? | 16:35 |
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| notmyname | Sam-I-Am: some | 16:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | what does it actually do? | 16:36 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i added the ceilometer middleware stuff to the proxy server config, restarted it | 16:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | now its crickets | 16:37 |
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| notmyname | Sam-I-Am: AFAIK it's dropping notifications in a message bus inline to a swift request | 16:38 |
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| Sam-I-Am | as some sort of meter? | 16:39 |
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| notmyname | Sam-I-Am: (sorry had to step away) | 16:50 |
| notmyname | Sam-I-Am: yeah, it spits out some meter info | 16:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | ok, looks like it started working - storage.objects.* | 16:50 |
| notmyname | Sam-I-Am: however, I don't know anyone who using swift with ceilometer in prod. instead people generally use the statsd stuff swift has provided for years. it's more complete and more performant | 16:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | just not sure if that means its actually working | 16:51 |
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| Sam-I-Am | well, yeah... no one uses ceilometer for anything | 16:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | but i have to support it | 16:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | it doesnt SEEM like ceilometer talks to swift | 16:51 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the install guide has always assumed ceilometer uses the reselleradmin role | 16:52 |
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| Sam-I-Am | butttt.... i cant find any evidence that this does anything | 16:52 |
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| notmyname | Sam-I-Am: I think it uses that because the other half of ceilometer polls accounts and needs the permissions to do that | 16:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'm trying to find this 'other half' | 16:53 |
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| notmyname | ah. I think theirs some ceilometer poller thing. I dont' know much about that part (other than "it does polling") | 16:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | so far i only see evidence of swift dropping bits onto the message bus | 16:54 |
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| Riya | Hi All, | 16:57 |
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| Riya | i am creating a cinder volume , after volume creation it comes to error state | 16:58 |
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| Riya | on checking the cinder scheduler logs i found it is throwing "cinder.scheduler.flows.create_volume.ScheduleCreateVolumeTask;volume:create: No valid host was found. No weighed hosts available." | 16:59 |
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| Riya | can anyone help me to resolve this issue | 16:59 |
| Riya | ? | 16:59 |
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| Sam-I-Am | notmyname: there's plenty of crickets on swift-ceilometer questions out there :/ | 17:00 |
| notmyname | Sam-I-Am: I think it's because nobody (or few people) uses it (because it doesn't work too well for the swift use case) | 17:01 |
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| Riya | i am creating a cinder volume , after volume creation it comes to error state | 17:07 |
| Riya | on checking the cinder scheduler logs i found it is throwing "cinder.scheduler.flows.create_volume.ScheduleCreateVolumeTask;volume:create: No valid host was found. No weighed hosts available." | 17:07 |
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| Riya | please help me to resolve this issue | 17:08 |
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| Sam-I-Am | notmyname: i think this bug is bunk - https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1511956 | 17:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1511956 in openstack-manuals "An extra command required to setup proper access " [Undecided,Incomplete] | 17:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | notmyname: sort of needed something to kickstart updating the ceilometer content for liberty... needed to install all the other bits in order to test it | 17:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'm seeing the polled stuff show up now, just took a while | 17:09 |
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| notmyname | I've got to step out for a bit. I'll be back later if you have more questions | 17:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | notmyname: aight | 17:10 |
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| Diplomat | Guys.. when I add more discs to my swift server, can I just add new hdds and it will add them to the system ? | 18:04 |
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| Sam-I-Am | no | 18:06 |
| Sam-I-Am | you have to mess with the rings | 18:06 |
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| notmyname | Diplomat: what Sam-I-Am said. you first plug them into your server (and format them with a filesystem eg XFS). then you add them to the rings. then swift does magic and you're good to go ;-) | 18:07 |
| Diplomat | Yea, that's what I tried to ask lol | 18:08 |
| Diplomat | Good good | 18:08 |
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| Diplomat | Which one would be better for Swift: 8 x 4TB or 32 x 1TB | 18:09 |
| Diplomat | Same question for Cinder+Ceph too | 18:09 |
| notmyname | Diplomat: I'd guess the 8 4TB drives would be cheaper than 32 1Tb drives | 18:10 |
| Diplomat | Other than cost, there would be no difference ? | 18:10 |
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| shaleh | more disks means more redundancy which means safer. | 18:10 |
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| shaleh | but that is a lot of disks to maintain | 18:11 |
| shaleh | do you need that? | 18:11 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the point of disks is they are cheap and expendable | 18:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | you dont need a fancy array with swift | 18:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | just give it lots of crap disks | 18:11 |
| notmyname | right | 18:11 |
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| notmyname | more disks doesn't always mean more safer. eg if you have 3 replicas and 1000 disks, you still have 3 copies of your data, one each on 3 different disks | 18:12 |
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| shaleh | notmyname: true. If they had 32 disks one would hope they would have more than 3 replicas :-) | 18:13 |
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| notmyname | shaleh: 3 replicas is pretty good. you could use erasure codes that stores on more than 3 drives, but that has different costs | 18:13 |
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| Diplomat | Good good, good info, thanks | 18:25 |
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| Diplomat | But when we are talking about Cinder + Ceph.. 8 x 4TB or 32 x 1TB | 18:25 |
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| jidar | I almost undoubtedly think you would prefer to have 32 disks | 18:26 |
| jidar | as you've got 4 x as many IOPS | 18:26 |
| Diplomat | true.. 32x1 sounds too crazy | 18:26 |
| jidar | crazy how? | 18:27 |
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| Diplomat | waste of physical space ? | 18:27 |
| jidar | you know people are still running on 400gig disks right? | 18:27 |
| jidar | I assume you don't know much about enterprise grade hardware | 18:27 |
| jidar | this isn't at all uncommon | 18:28 |
| Diplomat | If I would, would I ask that kind of questions ? | 18:28 |
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| jidar | though today you see more SSDs to replace raw spindle count | 18:28 |
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| jidar | that said, even if you were trying to use SSDs as a disk teir, or even just cache if you're bottom is still 8 HDs you may be rate limited | 18:29 |
| jidar | just depends on what you're doing | 18:29 |
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| laney1 | Diplomat: what is more important to you? performance or capacity? | 18:30 |
| Diplomat | performance | 18:30 |
| laney1 | ok, the more hdds you have, the more performance you are going to have | 18:31 |
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| Diplomat | well then 32x1 would make more sense | 18:32 |
| Diplomat | or maybe even 32 x 500 | 18:33 |
| Diplomat | and then i'd have 8 x RAID10 ? that's confusing | 18:33 |
| jidar | so its, spindles > raid level > rpm of disk > filesystem | 18:34 |
| jidar | in terms of what's going to net you performance | 18:34 |
| jidar | you prolly don't want to do regular raid these days | 18:34 |
| Diplomat | Well, I'd like to set up one box for SSD for regular stuff and one box for database stuff | 18:34 |
| Diplomat | hbase + cassandra and stuff like that | 18:34 |
| jidar | dunno anything about those products personally | 18:34 |
| Diplomat | Well they are database softwares meant for huge quantities of data | 18:35 |
| Diplomat | 10TB+ | 18:35 |
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| cn28h | if I am using provider networks and I have a scenario where there is a NIC on the control/compute nodes for each network, I can use "flat" type networking to map those to tenant networks? | 18:55 |
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| cn28h | or does flat imply there is only one network, period? | 18:56 |
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| WormMan | flat basically means that there is a 1:1 mapping of physical to virtual networks, so your plan should work fine | 18:57 |
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| cn28h | excellent, thanks | 18:59 |
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| kyle__ | I have some compute nodes that I expanded the storage on, and the new size shows up right in the db, and in nova-manage host detail, but not in the scheduler when I go to schedule VMs there. | 19:19 |
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| kyle__ | How do I get that to update to reflect reality? | 19:19 |
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| Bo7a | If you were tossed into a (poorly) deployed OS environment and just wanted a map of which components lived where how would you go about it? | 19:31 |
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| shaleh | Bo7a: what do you mean by "where" | 19:32 |
| shaleh | ? | 19:32 |
| shaleh | the service catalog is a good place to start | 19:32 |
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| jidar | silly question, if I were going to implement SSL on my endpoints (via proxy) would I have to delete the endpoints and recreate them with the https address? or is there a way to update the endpoint in place? | 19:37 |
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| shaleh | jidar: openstack endpoint --help | 19:45 |
| jidar | I see create/delete/etc, not update | 19:45 |
| shaleh | jidar: and you have your answer :-) | 19:46 |
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| jidar | could have just said that :/ | 19:46 |
| shaleh | jidar: teach to fish, provide fishing poles :-) | 19:46 |
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| jidar | my question specifically pointed out if I just had to delete create, you're not teaching to fish your teaching to be ignored | 19:47 |
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| shaleh | jidar: the API says that PATCH is supported | 19:50 |
| shaleh | jidar: https://github.com/openstack/keystone-specs/blob/master/api/v3/identity-api-v3.rst#update-endpoint | 19:50 |
| shaleh | jidar: when in doubt, the spec is a good place to start | 19:50 |
| jidar | shit yea | 19:51 |
| jidar | prolly just not supported in the client yet then | 19:51 |
| cn28h | in neutron how do I know what the mapping is from physnetX to ethX? | 19:51 |
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| cn28h | (if that is even a correct assumption ...) | 19:52 |
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| jidar | https://github.com/openstack/python-openstackclient/blob/678e69064854e3a3d3499171b0a29f30f2771840/doc/source/command-objects/endpoint.rst | 19:52 |
| jidar | weird, maybe my version is old then | 19:53 |
| shaleh | jidar: if you do not have OS_IDENTITY_API_VERSION=3 set then you won't see the help for v3 items | 19:54 |
| shaleh | jidar: like I said, fishing poles :-) | 19:55 |
| shaleh | jidar: without knowing your OpenStack version i could not know if you have v3 available | 19:56 |
| jidar | yea, it's not. When I plugged in v3 my api calls failed | 19:56 |
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| jidar | checking why now | 19:56 |
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| jidar | there we go, OS_AUTH_URL was pointing to v2 | 19:58 |
| jidar | ooooo, v3 has much more data - very nice | 19:58 |
| shaleh | yup | 19:59 |
| shaleh | v3 is the future | 19:59 |
| kbringard | it's like the Back to the Future 2, future | 19:59 |
| kbringard | some stuff is pretty spot on, some stuff is eerily close to right | 20:00 |
| shaleh | kbringard: hoverboards? | 20:00 |
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| kbringard | but the cubbies aint never winning the crown | 20:00 |
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| shaleh | heh :-) | 20:00 |
| kbringard | :-p | 20:00 |
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| shaleh | jidar: you know about the --format option to openstack client, yes? | 20:01 |
| kbringard | or yea, hoverboards *shm* | 20:01 |
| kbringard | smh, even | 20:01 |
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| jidar | shaleh: I haven't looked at it | 20:02 |
| shaleh | jidar: it can make scripting openstack nicer | 20:02 |
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| shaleh | --format csv for instance | 20:02 |
| jidar | shaleh: I'm a few months away from plugging this in with my developers, but I'll keep that in mind | 20:02 |
| shaleh | or --format json | 20:03 |
| jidar | similar to the baremetal stuff | 20:03 |
| jidar | yea, I used that to import my hosts via json for IPMI config | 20:03 |
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| shaleh | once you are kilo+, clouds.yaml is nicer than environment variables too | 20:03 |
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| shaleh | sp1-user1: | 20:04 |
| shaleh | username: user_BB_A_U1 | 20:04 |
| shaleh | password: password | 20:04 |
| shaleh | identity_api_version: "3" | 20:04 |
| shaleh | project_domain_name: domain_BB_1 | 20:04 |
| shaleh | user_domain_name: domain_BB_1 | 20:04 |
| shaleh | project_name: project_BB_1 | 20:04 |
| shaleh | auth_url: https://keystone.foreign1.example.com:5000/v3 | 20:04 |
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| shaleh | openstack --os-cloud sp1-user1 role list | 20:05 |
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