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tianmingZhanghello guys!01:37
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tianmingZhangI'm in !02:18
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D30hello all, need some tips/advice..  i have a single VM that was not able to start after i suspend it before restarting the physical server(compute node)..02:37
D30now when i start the vm using the horizon, it will not start anymore although it says Success on horizon..02:38
D30i tried to manually start it in nova using “nova start <vm id>” but no avail..02:38
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MaxSan_Hey folks07:57
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MaxSan_Wanted to try and setup openstack on a dedicated box (just a single setup right now, maybe switch to a MAAS later) but im having a bit of trouble right at the start07:58
MaxSan_during running openstack-install after I selected the single install version it has dropped back to the terminal07:59
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MaxSan_Claims it is already installed when i run the command again or I get08:00
MaxSan_"openstack-single-root doesn't exist" if I run openstack-status08:00
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visibilityspotsHi, I'm wondering if there is some command/way to propagate a fresh glance image to all compute nodes? Nowadays when uploading a new image the image is only copied over to the compute node the first time an instance depending on it is launched on a particular compute node..10:05
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uliseshi everybody10:17
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noqa_v_q1ovniecan I add two availability zones to one aggregation group?11:48
noqa_v_q1ovnieif yes, how?11:48
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muraliHello11:51
muraliAnyone here?11:51
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zaomurali: Probably.11:52
noqa_v_qoovniemurali: nope :(11:52
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muraliSome one could u please let me know how to disable ipv6 networking in Devstack?11:54
muraliI am using liberty11:55
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diltrammurali: you can disable creating all networks and create them on your own12:48
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diltramwithout IPv612:48
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muraliThank you :) @diltram12:49
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diltramnp :)12:50
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DiplomatHey guys, I have this interesting issue here.. for some reason when I visit network_topology page it tells me resource not found13:20
DiplomatNeutronClientException: 404 Not Found13:20
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Diplomathttp://paste.openstack.org/show/481013/13:21
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noqa_v_qoovniecan I add two availability zones to one aggregation group?13:22
noqa_v_qoovnieif yes, how?13:22
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dmzmorning y'all; i'm setting up a new compute node and i must have missed something; I'm getting an error in my nova-compute log that there is a libvirt error; any suggestions: https://gist.github.com/dmz006/2c717abdc346ff9c443d13:44
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thesimonxyHey dmz, i guess you have that bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nova/+bug/138283713:51
openstackLaunchpad bug 1382837 in nova (Ubuntu) "nova-compute is started before libvirt" [Medium,Triaged]13:51
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dmzi've stopped both sevices, started libvirt waited a few min and started compute13:52
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dmzplus i'm on 1:2014.2.4-0ubuntu1~cloud313:53
dmznot 2014.1.213:53
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dmzand i'd hope a bug from 2014 wouldn't effect a new install in 12/2015 :(13:54
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dmzalso I did spend about 2 hours googling the errors and saw that page but it didn't help :(13:58
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haleybmurali: regarding your ipv6 question from earlier, set IP_VERSION=4 in local.conf, the default is 4+614:48
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muraliYup u r correct14:48
muraliI js now found that one14:48
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muraliThanks for that one @haleyb14:48
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muraliHello14:52
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muraliAnyone here familiar with Cloudkitty?14:52
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tschrock5252Hi guys. I'm curious about Storage in Openstack Kilo. I come from the VMWare world. I'm used to creating an instance and having a VHD file or other Virtual disk file created for that instance. What I'm trying to figure out is, where in my environment would I find this data at? Where can I find these disk files or images?15:57
tschrock5252Anyone willing to lend a hand quick?15:57
tschrock5252Or possibly explain the way this storage is handled. I may be completely misunderstanding some fundamental concepts here15:58
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georgem1tschrock5252: the instance's disk is by default located in "/var/lib/nova/instances/UUD/disk"15:59
tschrock5252That was my thought too. Except, all I have in that directory is console.log and libvirt.xml16:00
tschrock5252There is no disk located there.16:00
georgem1tschrock5252: the images are downloaded to the compute nodes (as needed) from the Glance image repository16:00
georgem1tschrock5252: is the instance running?16:00
tschrock5252georgem1, yes the instances are all running. Total size of /var/lib/nova/instances is < 20gb for 49 instances16:01
tschrock5252None of them have a disk16:01
tschrock5252Hence le confusion :)16:01
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georgem1tschrock5252: curious…can you put in pastebin the output of "nova show instance_ID" for one of these instances (run as admin) to make sure you're looking at the right compute node?16:03
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tschrock5252Of course16:03
tschrock5252One moment16:03
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tschrock5252I gotta strip some text out for privacy purposes, of course16:04
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tschrock5252@georgem1 http://paste.openstack.org/show/481044/16:05
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tschrock5252georgem1 http://paste.openstack.org/show/481045/16:10
noqa_v_qoovniehow to easily remove all the hosts from aggregation group before deleting the group?16:11
tschrock5252FYI, /var/local/file-storage/instances/ is on a storage server that is mapped to /var/lib/nova/instances via NFS16:11
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georgem1tschrock5252: ok, so you're actually booting from a volume so the instance's disk resides remotely; you could see its location by looking in libvirt.xml16:14
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georgem1tschrock5252: or dump its config with "virsh dumpxml instance-0000005c"16:15
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tschrock5252http://paste.openstack.org/show/481047/16:16
tschrock5252So, it's iscsi16:18
georgem1tschrock5252:so the disk of that instance is on the iSCSI share "ip-10.10.0.109:3260-iscsi-iqn.2010-10.org.openstack:volume-56c9f489-624a-4c66-a2da-0df7ba3b8765-lun-1", does this answer your questions?16:18
tschrock5252Yeah it does. I don't have a strong understanding of iscsi16:19
tschrock5252But that is my problem to solve16:19
tschrock5252Thank you georgem116:19
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georgem1welcome, keep in mind that the disk of an instance can reside in different places: local disk of the compute node if the default "/var/lib/nova/instances" directory is mounted on a local drive, or an NFS share if that directory is mounted from an NFS share, or a iSCSI share or a Ceph volume or you could even boot directly from a Cinder volume which it can be backed by any of the 30 or so available Cinder storage backends16:24
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tschrock5252So, I have a few questions about flavors.16:58
tschrock52521. If I have a server assigned to a flavor, and I change the flavor, does the server immediately receive those changes. Is a reboot required? Is ir possible to modify a flavor that is currently "in use" by instances16:58
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tschrock52522. If I create a new flavor, and want to assign a server to it, how can i do that in Kilo without destroying the instance and recreating it? Is that possible?16:59
Sam-I-Amtschrock5252: flavors are implemented at instance creation16:59
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Sam-I-Amyou can image the instance and launch it with another flavor16:59
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tschrock5252Sam-I-Am if I image the instance, will it retain the same local IP address?17:00
Sam-I-Amit... can17:00
tschrock5252But only if I manually launch it via Opentack CLI, correct?17:00
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tschrock5252Not trying to take a shot at Openstack here or anything, but why can I easily reassign HW resources in other systems in not in Openstack. Example (ESXi). Is Openstack just not built for that purpose, or is this an instance with my hypervisor type?17:01
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tschrock5252To me, that seems like a really basic virtualization task that, from my research, Openstack isn't able to do well. And while normally, I wouldn't care about retaining the same local IP address, there are some things I'd rather not redesign (chef servers referencing local IP, etc)17:03
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dmzdoh it was my firewall! guess that works like it's suppose to :)17:04
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VeriliumDoes the restarting of a neutron l3 agent cause any type of service interruption?17:06
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Sam-I-AmVerilium: it shouldnt17:06
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Sam-I-Amtschrock5252: i dont understand your problem17:07
VeriliumSam-I-Am:  <nod>  Thanks.  That might save me yet.17:07
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Sam-I-AmVerilium: prior to liberty i think... restarting the ovs agent would break stuff17:08
VeriliumCurrently deploying my environment, else I would have done a few tests.17:08
Sam-I-Ambut other agents are fine. and so is the linuxbridge agent for any release.17:08
VeriliumSam-I-Am:  Ahhh, this would be Kilo (using Fuel).17:08
tschrock5252Sam-I-Am, I want to change the amount of memory and VCPUs assigned to an instance. While also retaining it's local IP address. I'd prefer not having to recreate the instance17:08
VeriliumAll of this to try and make Fuel support multiple external networks.17:08
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tschrock5252Sam-I-Am, my question is, will that be easy to do. If not, is it something about my setup, or is Openstack not designed to easily change these things "on the fly"17:09
Sam-I-Amopenstack works best with cloudy things... that is, instances can come and go and your app (and users) should never notice17:10
Sam-I-Aminstances are transient17:10
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Sam-I-Amits a different concept than conventional virtualization (vmware)17:11
tschrock5252?? I'm...... confused by that. Greatly.17:11
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tschrock5252Do you have a URL that explains it in greater detail? I'd love to read up on this and stop bugging you man17:11
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Sam-I-Amthats a good question... must be something somewhere17:12
Sam-I-Amthe idea with the cloud is that everything is stateless17:12
Sam-I-Amyou put a load balancer up in front of your app vms and your backend (db) vms... and those backend vms can come and go. for example, more are added on the fly if your load goes up... or if a host dies, they get respawned elsewhere and no one notices17:13
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tschrock5252Ok. So, the fact that we are using the cloud in a non-stateless way would be our fault then here. We are expecting stateful things out of a stateless system. I.E. - we are expecting conventional virtualization, when the system was deisgned more for a scalable setup. I.E. - load balancer17:14
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tschrock5252So, I have ~40 instances that I need to change hardware resources on. My only option will be to manually change each one. And I have to do that by removing the instance. Then recreating it at the CLI to force it to use the same local IP address.17:17
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Sam-I-Amits been a while since i've done this... but you might try snapshotting an image and then re-launching the snapshot to see if it gets the same ip.17:21
Sam-I-Amalternatively, there may be a way to resize an instance (which essentially does the same thing)17:21
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tschrock5252Sam-I-Am, I saw the resize option via the API. But yes, it appears to be a migration in itself17:29
tschrock5252I will test out snapshotting and then relaunching the snapshot17:30
tschrock5252I like that idear17:30
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is_nullhi all, why is user_data executed with /bin/sh instead of just being executed ?17:34
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jidarhow else would you expect it to be 'executed'17:36
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is_nulljidar: as any executable, ie. let kernel decide if it detects a shebang ^^17:36
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jidarso wrap another script inside of it?17:36
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is_nulljidar: oh it's not like i had a choice to not do this beautiful patch on all my templates :D17:37
is_nullbut i was wondering if that would be a bug or a design decision ^^17:37
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jidarhttps://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/hot/hello_world.yaml17:38
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jidardoesn't look like it's using sh17:38
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is_nulljidar: it probably depends on the cloud image17:44
is_nullbut i have a /bin/bash shebang and it fails: http://dpaste.com/1456EBK17:44
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is_nulloh my god, you're right, my bad !17:45
jidarthought the cloud image thing was a bit weird17:45
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is_nullit's saltstack that's doing this to me :(17:45
jidarno worries17:46
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is_nullavoid saltstack if you can, the open source version is just a honeypot, it's not really supported ^^17:46
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is_nullbut when you figure that out you have to pay USD 15K/year to get the "enterprise" version which is tested and supported :D17:46
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Kronwhat would be the better way to setup my hardware i've got two machines laying around both quad cores but one has 4g memory and the other has 8g, should i leave them in this configuration or should i split the ram so both have 6g18:04
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Sam-I-AmKron: for testing openstack?18:05
Kronyep mostly for testing and fidling learning and maybe for actual use at a later stage18:06
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Sam-I-AmKron: how many services do you want to try?18:10
Sam-I-Amjust the core stuff... or all the things?18:10
Kronall the things xD18:10
Sam-I-Amwell, you probably need 8 gigs of ram on the controller node to test all the things without hitting swap and getting slow18:11
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Sam-I-Amcompute node... depends on how many instances + size of instances18:12
Sam-I-Amid say 6 gigs + swap on each box is your best bet18:12
Sam-I-Amyou'll probably be ok until you try ceilometer because mongodb18:12
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Kronhaha ok ty18:14
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tullshot in the dark but... any way to schedule dedicated cpu instances on a compute node with H/T turned on?18:25
Sam-I-Amtull: how does ht impact things?18:26
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tullnot altogether sure, this is about all i was able to find on it.  http://docs.openstack.org/openstack-ops/content/compute_nodes.html18:27
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Sam-I-Ami think you can schedule dedicated cpu with a combination of scheduler filters and pinning18:29
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tullthanks Sam-I-Am, looking @ http://redhatstackblog.redhat.com/2015/05/05/cpu-pinning-and-numa-topology-awareness-in-openstack-compute/ now, seems to be in line.18:37
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tschrock5252openstack paste website...... you have my life's problems in your memory. How I pity thee for the pain that you recall.19:15
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sc68caltschrock5252: lol - I need to save that somewhere19:16
Sam-I-Amtschrock5252: i'm sure it has many19:17
Sam-I-Amits almost like a wall of shame19:17
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tschrock5252Sam-I-Am, seriously, if someone isn't paying you to sit on this IRC channel and help us poor schmucks, I take issue with the universe. You've walked me out of the wall of shame on 3 separate scenarios :)19:18
Sam-I-Amlol19:18
jidarthe hero we all don't deserve19:18
tschrock5252^^ Seriously. Get us an address so I can send you a Christmas ham or a bottle of scotch or something19:19
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Sam-I-Amhaha19:21
Sam-I-Amopenstack already leads to enough drinking :)19:22
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jidarI told my sales team they owe me a nice bottle of whiskey19:27
jidarthose jerks have put me through the meat grinder on this project19:27
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Sam-I-Amhahah19:28
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Sam-I-Amso sales sold something that didnt exist?19:28
jidarI shit you not, at least 3 times over19:29
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Sam-I-Amthis isnt surprising19:29
Sam-I-Amthey dont take the heat when it cant be delivered or doesnt work19:29
jidarit's not, but I made sure they understood how awful it was19:29
jidarI've got to hook into Cisco's ACI hardware, and EMC's ViPR stuff on top of all this other wacky stuff19:30
jidarat least there is some sort of support on those products though19:30
Sam-I-Amaci?19:30
jidarhttps://specs.openstack.org/openstack/neutron-specs/specs/juno/ml2-cisco-apic-mech-driver.html19:30
jidarbasically driving ml2 to do stuff like make vlans available on hardware profiles19:30
Sam-I-Amoh fun :)19:30
jidaramong other things19:31
jidaryea... not fun19:31
Sam-I-Amso you're selling some sort of openstack solution19:31
jidarwe're doing all of this under redhat, we're selling services19:31
jidarbut our statement of work for this project is... 'wild' to say the least19:31
sinhthis has probably been asked more than once. . but if you have a 3 node system with a single interface going in, do you really need to create virtual nics to get it going?19:31
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jidaryou'll need a bridge at the very least for tenant communications19:32
Sam-I-Amsinh: no, but a few things to consider - a) you shouldnt put your openstack management bits on public IPs b) you need more than 1 ip per box (more like a /24 on that network)19:32
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sinhsam-i-am: the ip isn't much of an issue19:37
sinhi'm using a /16 of 10.x19:37
sinhi'm trying to figure out if there's something i'm missing. . the IPs are getting dished out but the inbound/outbound communication seems to be broken19:38
Sam-I-Amok, so that should work... but only for a POC19:38
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sinhi knew i should've asked for the second nic to get connected19:38
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Sam-I-Amis this using ovs?19:39
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Diplomathey guys, is there some kind of dashboard addon for ceilometer ?19:49
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Sam-I-Amit should show up if you restart apache after installing ceilmeter19:51
Sam-I-Amat least i thought there was something19:51
Diplomathm19:51
Diplomatnope, dont see anything19:53
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Diplomatthere's this resource usage tab..19:53
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Diplomatbut yea there's nothing useful :(19:54
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Diplomati just found the hard way that my vm used 13TB more bandwidth that expected19:54
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sinhsam-i-am: yeah19:56
jidarheh I did a replication once from datacenter to datacenter19:56
jidarof our entire SAN19:57
jidarended up costing us like 13k19:57
Diplomatyou just made me feel a bit better19:57
jidarit wasn't due to mistake or anything19:57
jidarbut yea, that stuff costs lots of money19:57
Diplomati actually dont know anything about ceilometer :S gotta do some research19:58
jidarbasically burned like 20-60mbit for about 3 weeks19:58
jidarour average was <4mbit19:58
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Diplomatpast um19:59
Diplomatpast 24h i have done19:59
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Diplomat~80mbit stable :(20:00
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DiplomatI have to figure out some graphs and thing hmm20:01
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Diplomathttps://launchpad.net/ceilometer-dashboard looks like there is something20:03
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jidarDiplomat: this was like > 10 years ago, I imagine BW was a bit more expensive :)20:05
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Diplomatlol20:05
Diplomatyes20:05
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Diplomatbut still20:05
Diplomatbusiness means earning money not spending it20:06
Diplomatwasting *20:06
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jidarno fun in that hahah20:06
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RichardRaseleyAttempting to troubleshoot a 'novncproxy' issue and trying to mentally sort out the components. The VNC proxy is the component which would live on the controller, and the VNC proxy client lives on the compute nodes, correct? When I user clicks on the console tab it will redirect them through the controller (i.e the controller should be in the URL the client sees)?20:13
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Sam-I-AmRichardRaseley: yeah20:16
Sam-I-AmRichardRaseley: you can use the cli to get the url they get20:16
Sam-I-Amnova get-vnc-console <instance> novnc20:17
RichardRaseleySam-I-Am: Thank you. The output of that would have a URL which mapped to the controller (or wherever the VNC Proxy is living)?20:18
Sam-I-Amyes20:18
Sam-I-Amit uses the *base_url option20:18
Sam-I-Amwhich is on every compute node, interestingly20:19
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Diplomathttp://controller:6080/vnc_auto.html?token=22eee86c-3924-41e0-9462-52469b9d0692&title=pbn.dns2%2896da7066-0bc3-4293-929d-d7954082d46d%2920:19
Diplomatit should look like this20:19
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RichardRaseleySam-I-Am : OK. I thought I had everything wired up correctly, but nothing is actually listening on TCP 6080 on the controllers or compute nodes.20:19
RichardRaseleySo perhaps I have a lower-level problem.20:19
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Sam-I-Amwhats in your config for the vnc bits?20:20
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RichardRaseleyIf I have multiple controllers behind a load balancer, would the 'vncserver_listen' and 'vncserver_proxyclient_address' still map to the individual IPs of a given controller, or to the VIP itself?20:20
RichardRaseleySam-I-Am: One sec - let me gather them.20:21
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Sam-I-Ami think the proxy stuff stays the same, but the base_url points to the load balancer20:21
Sam-I-Ami'd have to poke around at this one20:21
RichardRaseleyOn the controller, the relevant bits are: novncproxy_host=0.0.0.0 , novncproxy_port=6080 ,20:21
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RichardRaseleynovncproxy_base_url=http://0.0.0.0:6080/vnc_auto.html , vncserver_proxyclient_address=127.0.0., vnc_enabled=true20:22
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RichardRaseleyI think those last ones are artifacts of troubleshooting, as how I am understanding you is that the controller wouldn't have a base_url, proxyclient, or enabled setting.20:23
Sam-I-Amwell, vnc_proxyclient_address=127.0.0.1 isnt going to work20:24
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Sam-I-Amnovncproxy_base_url needs to be the LB (or the controller node)20:24
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john5223to go from openstack liberty linux bridges to ovs do i just need to install ovs and change drivers in configs?20:51
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RichardRaseleySam-I-Am : So, would you expect to see something listening on TCP 6080 on the controller when the VNC proxy is installed properly?20:52
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Sam-I-AmRichardRaseley: yes20:57
Sam-I-Amdo you have the novncproxy service running?20:57
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RichardRaseleySam-I-Am: I do not see the service running. I am configuring via Puppet which lays down a service for the thing, so I am investigating that avenue now. Thanks for confirming.20:58
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Sam-I-Ampuppet could use spice by default20:59
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dmzthe compute node saves a local copy of install images when doing installs right? if so where does it save them on the compute nodes? And can i pre-sync them?21:02
RichardRaseleySam-I-Am : No, it is laying down the right packages and attempting to configure the service (openstack-nova-novncproxy and nova-novncproxy respectively), but there is obviously some sort of failure there. Will report back.21:02
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Sam-I-Amdmz: i think /var/lib/nova/images21:03
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Sam-I-Amdmz: usually if you boot 1 instance, the rest of them use the cached version for a while21:03
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dmzthats what i though; thanks21:04
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RichardRaseleySam-I-Am : OK, so I've got the service started, but I am seeing a "InvalidToken: The token <TOKEN> is invalid or has expired". Even when logging out and back in I get the error immediately.21:24
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RichardRaseleyPerhaps a consoleauth issue.21:24
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Sam-I-Ammight be21:24
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Sam-I-Ami would think puppet would deploy a little better than this21:25
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Sam-I-Ami need to disappear for a bit21:25
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RichardRaseleyI am currently experiencing an issue with using the novnc proxy to view the console of instances. When I launch a console via Horizon I get a 'Failed to connect to server (code: 1006)' error. I see the following in the nova-consoleauth log (http://paste.openstack.org/show/481089/) and the following in the nova-novncproxy log (http://paste.openstack.org/show/481090/). Any assistance would be appreciated.22:10
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dmzahh /var/lib/nova/instances/_base...hmm22:21
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john5223If i created a liberty install with linuxbridge and i want to move to OVS, can i do that without messing up the database if i already made instances?22:26
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Pavoso.... got a question about going from a VLAN in openstack to a VLAN in ESXi through a physical network, do I need to make a VPN tunnel from openstack to ESXI to be able to access the VLANs in ESXI23:11
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terjeyea.. that's a ban.23:12
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MrCuriouswonder which cloud vender he was subscribed to….23:13
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terjedrive by23:13
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terjeMrCurious: clearly VMWare.. :P23:14
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MrCuriousoh dear god! that explains it… vSphere API rage… (they expose the layer below the api, not the actual api)23:15
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Pavodid you guys see my question in all that mess?23:17
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jidarOrganization:   African Network Information Center (AFRINIC)23:28
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