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| Sam-I-Am | jidar: s/server/host or vm? | 00:00 |
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| jidar | VM | 00:00 |
| jidar | sorry | 00:00 |
| as0bu | only one hop kysse straight to the other instance | 00:00 |
| kysse | https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1403047 | 00:00 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1403047 in Fuel for OpenStack 6.1.x "Vm-2-Vm over OVS iperf limited to 2.5 Gb" [High,Fix released] - Assigned to Egor Kotko (ykotko) | 00:00 |
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| jidar | hoping on a call | 00:01 |
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| as0bu | kysse: I'm running Fuel 7.0 | 00:02 |
| as0bu | and the other cloud I have is more "home grown" | 00:02 |
| as0bu | running icehouse I believe | 00:02 |
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| Sam-I-Am | as0bu: for kicks have you tried linuxbridge? | 00:03 |
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| as0bu | I have actually | 00:03 |
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| as0bu | I did have to update the kernel to 3.16 though | 00:03 |
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| Sam-I-Am | for lb? | 00:04 |
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| as0bu | but, that didn't fix this bandwidth "slowness" I have for ovs | 00:04 |
| as0bu | It was just two kvm instance I did by hand | 00:04 |
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| as0bu | outside of openstack | 00:05 |
| as0bu | https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1403047/comments/13 | 00:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1403047 in Fuel for OpenStack 6.1.x "Vm-2-Vm over OVS iperf limited to 2.5 Gb" [High,Fix released] - Assigned to Egor Kotko (ykotko) | 00:05 |
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| as0bu | that seems to be about what I get | 00:05 |
| as0bu | so I guess it's normal? | 00:06 |
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| kysse | can you paste ovs ports and ifconfig? | 00:06 |
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| Sam-I-Am | as0bu: i was talking about using the linux bridge agent instead of ovs | 00:06 |
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| Sam-I-Am | plus fuel has a lot more OVS than is actually necessary | 00:06 |
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| as0bu | ah Sam-I-Am I have not tried that | 00:07 |
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| as0bu | kysse I'm not able to post things from this customer without a lot of approval :( | 00:07 |
| kysse | :( | 00:07 |
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| kysse | you can't even say kernel version? | 00:08 |
| as0bu | 3.13.0-68 | 00:08 |
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| kysse | ok | 00:09 |
| as0bu | kysse: Sam-I-Am I think that I might just be hitting an ovs performance limitation | 00:09 |
| kysse | it might be, I recommend linux-bridge | 00:09 |
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| as0bu | kysse: I would lose vxlan at that point right? | 00:10 |
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| kysse | nope | 00:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | only thing linux bridge doesnt support is gre | 00:10 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you should set up a test env for fun | 00:11 |
| as0bu | awesome I'll try that out then | 00:11 |
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| Sam-I-Am | as0bu: also, have you tried vm -> not vm ? | 00:11 |
| as0bu | I have not | 00:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | i.e., connect a vm to provider network, then netperf to a machine thats not a vm | 00:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | either way i'd give linuxbridge a shot | 00:12 |
| as0bu | let me try that really quick | 00:12 |
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| jidar | that's interesting | 00:15 |
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| clarkb | Sam-I-Am: ml2 doesn't support linuxbridge iwth gre? | 00:15 |
| clarkb | thats weird since its trivial to add a gre tunnel to a bridge | 00:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | clarkb: no | 00:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | its just... never done it | 00:16 |
| jidar | who wants gre now-a-days anyway | 00:16 |
| clarkb | and has more kernel support than vxlan | 00:16 |
| jidar | out with the old! | 00:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | you'd think it would have supported gre before vxlan | 00:16 |
| clarkb | jidar: anyone with a slightly older kernel? | 00:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | now it needs to support the latest and greatest geneve | 00:17 |
| clarkb | people that want working broadcast? | 00:17 |
| jidar | kernel's already up to 4.1 or 2? or ore | 00:17 |
| clarkb | (without multicast) | 00:17 |
| jidar | OUT WITH THE OLD!!! | 00:17 |
| jidar | I kid | 00:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | geneve, sir. because we need a protocol that can't be put into hardware. | 00:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | well, easily put into hardware | 00:17 |
| clarkb | I am more surprised that ya gre wasn't done first since it would've been easier several years ago | 00:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | you'd think | 00:18 |
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| Sam-I-Am | then again linuxbridge has sort of been the redheaded stepchild of neutron until the last cycle or 2 | 00:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | i have my theories | 00:18 |
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| as0bu | Sam-I-Am I will have to try that a little later and update you when I can | 00:23 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mmkay | 00:23 |
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| anteaya | Sam-I-Am: oh clarkb had a question about flying into fort collins | 00:23 |
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| Sam-I-Am | anteaya: howdy | 00:23 |
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| anteaya | end of feb better to fly porland to fort collins or portland to denver | 00:24 |
| anteaya | howdy | 00:24 |
| as0bu | having problems trying to find a 10gbps server outside of the openstack cloud | 00:24 |
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| clarkb | it looks like denver is best bet | 00:24 |
| clarkb | regional airport is not well served? | 00:24 |
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| dbainbri | hello, attempting to get devstack working in a docker container. it is not going well. need to somehow separate the "installing" of the files from the configuration (kernel modules, iptables etc. anyone have any luck attempting to do this? | 00:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | clarkb: it has maybe 1-2 commercial flights/day, mostly to vegas | 00:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | or at least it used to | 00:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | denver is the closest decent airport | 00:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | then an hour or so drive to FC | 00:25 |
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| adun153 | My Instance list says one of my instances is stuck at "Image Pending Upload", what do I do to unstuck that? | 02:02 |
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| Pavo | Anyone here ever deal with VLAN tunneling across provider networks from openstack to a ESXi | 02:13 |
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| Pavo | something like Q in Q Tunneling | 02:15 |
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| Sam-I-Am | Pavo: no, but i'm guessing if you used the same vlan tags in openstack as esxi, those vms should be able to talk to each other | 02:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | dont see a need for q-in-q | 02:16 |
| Pavo | yeah thats not the issue | 02:16 |
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| Pavo | the issue is a vRouter in the ESXi server that the VLANs are connected to and not on the ESXi vSwitch itself | 02:17 |
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| Sam-I-Am | oh, dunno then | 02:17 |
| Pavo | so the vlan tag is getting stripped away at the router before it gets to the VLANs after the router | 02:17 |
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| Sam-I-Am | most enterprise switches do not understand q-in-q | 02:18 |
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| Sam-I-Am | nor does openvswitch | 02:19 |
| Pavo | I mean we can do a GRE tunnel or GR Span but that will limit us to only broadcast traffic on our Sec Onion instance | 02:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | you probably need to remove that router | 02:19 |
| Pavo | we use Brocade ICX 6610 switches for our openstack kits, they support it but just seems like its going to be a HUGE headache | 02:20 |
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| Sam-I-Am | oh yeah we were talking about those... | 02:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | you should use vdx with openstack :) | 02:22 |
| Pavo | yeah I finally understand the tagged , untagged and dual-mode on them now | 02:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | cool | 02:23 |
| Sam-I-Am | bbiab - locating dinner | 02:23 |
| Pavo | vdx with openstack? | 02:23 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah | 02:23 |
| Pavo | googling it now | 02:23 |
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| Pavo | oh you meant the Brocade plugin for openstack | 02:24 |
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| Pavo | yeah would love to try it out but dunno how complicated it is to implement it into our working nodes | 02:24 |
| Pavo | without breaking something | 02:24 |
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| Sam-I-Am | Pavo: so why cant you move the vrouters to the 6610 and use vlans to integrate openstack with vmware? | 02:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | assuming vms on either one need to talk | 02:33 |
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| Pavo | because we do not have admin access to the ESXi configuration, its being used to simulate a client network that we are just connecting our openstack kit to using L@ trunking | 02:34 |
| Pavo | L2 | 02:34 |
| Pavo | mainly to test if we can spawn instances in different VLANs on client networks to use monitoring and forensics tools from within openstack | 02:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | can you sneak the internal esxi vlans out of vmware with some sort of hacky bridge box? | 02:36 |
| Pavo | possibly but again if did that we would only see broadcast traffic correct? | 02:37 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you want to use openstack to sniff things in vmware? | 02:37 |
| Pavo | yes | 02:37 |
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| Pavo | basically a openstacked pen-testing/forensics kit lol | 02:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | cant vmware do that for you? | 02:38 |
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| Sam-I-Am | its a wee bit difficult to dump unknown unicast into openstack | 02:38 |
| Pavo | yes but we only using vmware to simulate a real network | 02:38 |
| Pavo | for training purposes | 02:39 |
| Pavo | and testing purposes | 02:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | have you tried sending unknown unicast into openstack instances? | 02:39 |
| Pavo | yes | 02:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | does it work? | 02:40 |
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| Pavo | if we can connect to a client network just by using a trunk from our openstack brocade switch and normal VLAN tennant networks in openstack it works fine and able to get all L2 traffic | 02:40 |
| Pavo | we can sniff all unicast, and multicast traffic | 02:41 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ok | 02:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | but you cant get l2 into vmware.. | 02:42 |
| Pavo | not through the edge vrouter | 02:42 |
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| Pavo | it breaks everything lol | 02:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | can the vrouter dump traffic to you? | 02:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | sort of like a cisco span | 02:43 |
| Pavo | but I honestly believe that a QinQ Tunnel would work | 02:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | if would if things dont filter it out, and you can unwrap it before it gets to openstack | 02:43 |
| Pavo | now thats could be an option I guess but they would have to span it out their gateway (internet port) | 02:43 |
| Pavo | and I don't think any networking person would ever span traffic out their gateway | 02:44 |
| Pavo | unless its in a tunnel | 02:44 |
| Pavo | like IPSec | 02:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | no you'd need a monitoring port somewhere | 02:44 |
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| Pavo | wouldn't that still need to be from inside the vmware network? | 02:46 |
| Pavo | we are connecting from the outside of vmware | 02:46 |
| Pavo | they are using a vrouter as a simulated edge router | 02:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | i would think vmware would offer a way in the vrouter to dump traffic out of a separate port, specific for monitoring | 02:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | last i used vmware there was no such thing as a vrouter | 02:47 |
| Pavo | damn thats been awhile | 02:47 |
| Pavo | lol | 02:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | it was l2 or bust | 02:47 |
| Pavo | remember those days lol | 02:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | one of the big issues was 'how do we sniff vm traffic' | 02:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | and at the time that was not solved | 02:48 |
| Pavo | exactly lol | 02:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | couple of products on the market that ran as VMs | 02:49 |
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| Sam-I-Am | gigamon had some cool stuff for sucking traffic out of vm networks | 02:49 |
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| Pavo | hmmm might have to look them up | 02:53 |
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| Sam-I-Am | it was more or less a big switch for tunneling unknown unicast around on other networks | 02:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | some part of it ran as a VM and some was actual hardware | 02:55 |
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| adun153 | My Instance list says one of my instances is stuck at "Image Pending Upload", what do I do to unstuck that? | 02:57 |
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| Pavo | adun153 did you use the website to uplaod the image? | 02:58 |
| Pavo | or glance CLI command? | 02:58 |
| adun153 | Payo, yes | 02:58 |
| adun153 | web dashboard | 02:58 |
| Pavo | yeah that timesout if an image is over 4Gb I have noticed | 02:58 |
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| Pavo | I always use the glance CLI command | 02:59 |
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| adun153 | Pavo: If I use the CLI command, does doing a ctrl+c just simply cancel the operation? | 03:05 |
| Pavo | afaik yes | 03:05 |
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| adun153 | thanks | 03:08 |
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| jidar | hmmm | 05:27 |
| jidar | LinuxBridge doesn't have DVR? | 05:27 |
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| jidar | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1504039 | 05:28 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1504039 in neutron "Linuxbridge DVR" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Hirofumi Ichihara (ichihara-hirofumi) | 05:28 |
| jidar | goofy :( | 05:28 |
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| jidar | Mitaka | 05:28 |
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| Sam-I-Am | jidar: it does not | 05:29 |
| jidar | boooo | 05:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | however, you may not need dvr as much as you think you do | 05:29 |
| jidar | for me, it's a stupid checkbox the customer needs for "HA" | 05:29 |
| jidar | VRRP I guess is enough | 05:30 |
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| jidar | I'll think on it | 05:30 |
| Sam-I-Am | do they need 'private' networks? | 05:30 |
| Sam-I-Am | or routing of private networks? | 05:30 |
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| jidar | DVR is just want lets you do private vxlan to private vxlan without hitting a controller/network node, right? | 05:31 |
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| Sam-I-Am | same or different network? | 05:31 |
| jidar | perhaps I should say, route from private vxlan to another private vxlan | 05:31 |
| jidar | no wait, that's not right either | 05:32 |
| jidar | route from a subnet on the same tenant as another subnet | 05:32 |
| jidar | so same vxlan, different subnet, so a route from a -> b | 05:32 |
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| Sam-I-Am | then you need the l3 agent. question is... how often does this actually happen? | 05:33 |
| jidar | fair point | 05:33 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the way i see it, most tenants have a few private networks used to shuffle data around between similar VMs | 05:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | same layer 2 network | 05:33 |
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| Sam-I-Am | actual connectivity to the outside world is provided by physical infrastructure and provider networks... also layer 2. your network gear does the layer 3 stuff | 05:34 |
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| jidar | I think if you're doing multi-AZ's it might be way more important | 05:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | doesnt mean you cant have neutron l3 agents with vrrp... but i wouldnt design your cloud to require them | 05:35 |
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| Sam-I-Am | or you could use dvr in some cases, but i'd always keep the provider network concept available | 05:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | you might want to follow OVN | 05:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | its not there yet, but might be in a couple of releases | 05:36 |
| jidar | yea | 05:36 |
| jidar | I'm just looking at today's Kilo release and what we can get out of it | 05:36 |
| jidar | plus if my customer has some issues how we address them | 05:37 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i'd sort of think really hard about whether the extra complexity and scalability issues of dvr make sense (as least in kilo... less so in liberty and mitaka) | 05:38 |
| jidar | personally I get it 'for free' out of the box with the deployment I'm using today | 05:38 |
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| jidar | so I'm not as worried about the complexity as I am "when" it breaks | 05:38 |
| jidar | tbh, I'm not even sure I know the knobs to push to produce a LB based deployment from OSP7 | 05:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | you could try openstack-ansible | 05:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | not sure what osp does, but its probably not super flexible | 05:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | most vendor distros are meh | 05:40 |
| jidar | I have to pass this back off to the customer, whom has support and a 'agreement' with redhat | 05:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | openstack moves too quickly for them | 05:40 |
| jidar | totally agree | 05:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | if nothing else it might be useful to put together a poc just to see if linuxbridge fixes some of your issues | 05:41 |
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| Sam-I-Am | if thats the case, then figure out how to make it work | 05:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | i cant imagine osp stripping out linuxbridge, but i also dont know how they do their bare metal deployment (if that is such a thing) | 05:41 |
| jidar | I'm not above throwing this over the fence at Redhat and asking them for support | 05:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | things like fuel use OVS at the host level to glue everything together and it quickly becomes a mess when it breaks | 05:42 |
| jidar | I'm looking for docs on the deployment and OVS vs LB | 05:42 |
| jidar | see if it's already documented somewhere that I missed | 05:42 |
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| Sam-I-Am | if you're looking for a visual comparison of ovs vs lb, you can check the scenarios in the network guide | 05:43 |
| jidar | oh yea, that'll be next up | 05:43 |
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| Sam-I-Am | there's also config examples in it | 05:43 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you'll notice that linuxbridge provider networks is about as simple as it gets | 05:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | especially comparing to the dvr diagrams | 05:45 |
| MrCurious | holy moly! OSv works under openstack | 05:46 |
| MrCurious | let the games begin! | 05:46 |
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| jidar | Sam-I-Am: http://docs.openstack.org/networking-guide/scenario_legacy_lb.html I assume this is the one? | 05:49 |
| jidar | looks simple enough | 05:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | thats one of them | 05:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | jidar: http://docs.openstack.org/networking-guide/scenario_provider_lb.html | 05:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | thats the stupidly simple one | 05:51 |
| jidar | oh that's even simpler | 05:51 |
| jidar | yea | 05:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | you can combine those two to get support for both provider and tenant networks | 05:51 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i'm actually seeking operator input in how we should combine those scenarios | 05:52 |
| jidar | if I have the time, either myself or as0bu will be setting up something like this for testing | 05:53 |
| jidar | so we'll see about providing some feedback | 05:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | jidar: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-operators/2015-December/009091.html | 05:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | actually if you're going to experiment with linuxbridge, the install guide is a pretty good source for that config | 05:54 |
| jidar | gotcha, all bookmarked | 05:54 |
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| Sam-I-Am | sleep is optional | 05:54 |
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| Affan | Hello all | 05:56 |
| demio | howdy | 05:57 |
| Affan | whats the group registration process... the https://groups.openstack.org/official-group-process seems to have steps but no links | 05:57 |
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| Affan | @demio hi ! | 05:57 |
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| Sam-I-Am | Affan: looks like thats not done/ready yet | 06:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | might be worth asking on the general mailing list | 06:01 |
| demio | why openstack vs cloudformation | 06:01 |
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| thetrav | so what's the deal with trove? I'm seeing some notes to indicate that it's out of incubation, but all the docs basically say "this is a development thing, there are no packages" | 07:20 |
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| thetrav | no love for trove? | 07:21 |
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| swati_ | Hi, anybody here to talk reagding blueprints? | 07:36 |
| swati_ | regarding* | 07:36 |
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| kuandad | Hi | 07:46 |
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| diltram | Hello | 07:53 |
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| swati_ | Can I talk to anybody regarding the blueprints here? | 07:54 |
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| steveng | Hey everyone, I am facing a problem.. Earlier my setup was working fine. I did some changes to policy.json files to disallow actions based on user roles. But then suddenly horizon started showing errors. Now when I run the command 'glance image-list', it shows HTTP 500 error. Also nova service-list command shows all services down. | 08:47 |
| steveng | Can anyone help me with this? | 08:47 |
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| farah_ | hello everyone ! I am trying to install openstack liberty and I have some troubles with rabbit on both controller and compute node ,could anyone help me plz ?? thanks | 09:48 |
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| dilip | What is the exact error you getting | 09:49 |
| dilip | ? | 09:49 |
| Gamer-Pro | Hello Guys | 09:49 |
| Gamer-Pro | Download this game from here | 09:49 |
| Gamer-Pro | http://www.indiedb.com/games/spaceshooter-x1/downloads/spaceshooter-x1-update-for-windows | 09:49 |
| Gamer-Pro | This game is the best game of the world | 09:49 |
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| farah_ | AMQP server on controller:5672 is unreachable: [Errno 111] ECONNREFUSED | 09:50 |
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| Diplomat | Guys, any ideas why my keystone doesn't want to start? Error log is clean | 11:19 |
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| mah | Hi guys , How can I register ne key pair or get the key pair of my deployed openstack ? | 12:16 |
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| mah | Hi guys , How can I register new key pair or get the key pair of my deployed openstack ? | 12:29 |
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| agemuend | mah: do you mean the keypair of your openstack user, or SSL keypairs of services? | 12:34 |
| mah | yes keypair of openstack user | 12:35 |
| agemuend | nova keypair-list, nova keypair-add, etc. | 12:35 |
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| mah | I tried that : nova keypair-add KEY_NAME > MY_KEY.pem but I got errors | 12:35 |
| mah | ERROR (DiscoveryFailure): Could not determine a suitable URL for the plugin | 12:36 |
| agemuend | Whats your OS_AUTH_URL? | 12:37 |
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| agemuend | Check if you use v2.0 but have domains defined, that confuses the client | 12:39 |
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| mah | yes I have v2.0 and domains defined | 12:41 |
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| mah | so what I have to do ? change v2.0 to v3 ? | 12:41 |
| mah | or remove the defined domains ? | 12:41 |
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| OldCrowEW | hey Sam-I-Am did the upgrade guide ever get finished? I imma dump my notes to github gist today | 13:48 |
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| Sam-I-Am | OldCrowEW: nope. there's a spec for it for mitaka. | 13:50 |
| OldCrowEW | ok, i'll link once i paste | 13:50 |
| OldCrowEW | its not much so far | 13:50 |
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| OldCrowEW | rip old repo, add new. yum update. syncdb restart services. too easy | 13:51 |
| OldCrowEW | well minus the ovs stuff you helped me with of course :) | 13:51 |
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| Sam-I-Am | heh | 13:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/docs-specs/specs/mitaka/upgrades.html | 13:51 |
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| Sam-I-Am | we're not doing step-by-steps for packages anymore | 13:51 |
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| Sam-I-Am | just outlining the general procedures, list of mandatory changes, and some gotchas | 13:52 |
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| OldCrowEW | thats pretty much what my notes are consiting of | 13:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | cool | 13:53 |
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| OldCrowEW | that spec looks good | 13:54 |
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| OldCrowEW | my suggestion would be for "openstack" to put out the one you describe and let upstream contribute step by step if they want | 13:55 |
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| Sam-I-Am | OldCrowEW: it would be nice to have some realistic 'use cases' somewhere | 13:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | mostly operator contributions from experience | 13:59 |
| OldCrowEW | agreed. the one you wrote for network guide helped me understand the million options available :) | 13:59 |
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| Sam-I-Am | aight, time to head in | 14:02 |
| Sam-I-Am | bbiab | 14:02 |
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| OldCrowEW | alright. i'll link when i have something useful | 14:03 |
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| ska | I have a system with "neutron agent-list" giving hostnames that are non-standard format. Possibly because of a wacky f5 load-balancer. Should this be considered misconfigured? acceptable? | 14:07 |
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| ska | The non-standandard format looks like "<hostname>:<uuid>" | 14:07 |
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| bradams | anyone here able to debug a networking issue? | 14:25 |
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| kysse | what kind of network issue? | 14:25 |
| bradams | neutron isn't placing private ips onto the internal interface | 14:25 |
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| bradams | cant seem to find out why | 14:26 |
| kysse | in vm? | 14:26 |
| bradams | no, dhcp works | 14:26 |
| bradams | it gets its ip | 14:26 |
| bradams | but it can't reach out, and i cant find the ip on the internal interface | 14:27 |
| bradams | it can ping it's gateway, i believe | 14:27 |
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| bradams | and other vms on the same network | 14:27 |
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| brad[] | Hi all, is it possible to apply QoS rules to a running instance? Cinder/Ceph, Nova/libvirt/KVM. Happy to stop / start the instance if needs be, or snapshot / relaunch. | 15:03 |
| brad[] | Would prefer not to redeploy, we have quite a few | 15:03 |
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| john5223 | if im doing neutron with ovs should i have a virbr0 bridge? or should it only be that br-provider bridge? | 16:06 |
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| john5223 | i tried with linux bridge provider networks and everything worked great. trying now with ovs and instances are not responding | 16:07 |
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| Sam-I-Am | moo | 16:32 |
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| Sam-I-Am | john5223: virbr0 is a libvirt thing | 16:33 |
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| john5223 | i can have a flat provider network with ovs right? so instead of --provider:network_type vlan i can just do flat instead? | 16:37 |
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| Sam-I-Am | john5223: yes | 16:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | assuming you have that mapping in the ml2 conf | 16:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | rather, a mapping for vlans | 16:39 |
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| john5223 | this guy? [ml2_type_flat] flat_networks = provider | 16:40 |
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| john5223 | and is that controller and controller and compute need that? | 16:42 |
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| and | Hello again guys! I have a problem with ovs not showing macs when i create a router. | 16:43 |
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| Sam-I-Am | john5223: how are you installing this? | 16:43 |
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| and | if i do ovs-ofctl show br-int on network node, it shows the router interfaces with 00:00:00:00:00 mac address | 16:44 |
| john5223 | i ran through your liberty install guide, but then when i got to neutron i switched over to this guide http://docs.openstack.org/networking-guide/scenario_provider_ovs.html | 16:44 |
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| john5223 | instead of doing linux bridge | 16:44 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ah ok | 16:46 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so you were just doing providers with linux bridge before? no l3 stuff? | 16:46 |
| john5223 | yeah | 16:46 |
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| john5223 | "The lack of L3 agents in this scenario prevents operation of the conventional metadata agent. You must use a configuration drive to provide instance metadata." | 16:47 |
| john5223 | is that the part im missing maybe? | 16:47 |
| and | Sam-I-Am_: I'm back..haha...after a fresh deployment the same thing happens. Can't ping the qrouter. But now i saw that ovs-ofctl show br-int shows 77:00:00:00:00:00 mac address, and not the mac address i see in ifconfig on the namespace. Any idea why is happening this? | 16:47 |
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| Sam-I-Am | john5223: so whats actually broken here? | 16:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | i didnt see the scrollback | 16:49 |
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| Sam-I-Am | and you can use metadata... just need to change an option in the dhcp agent | 16:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | well, conventional metadata | 16:49 |
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| john5223 | im not sure whats broken b/c no errors in logs. but i tried linux bridge with the provider network and everything worked awesome. i was trying to use lxd though but there was a lot of bugs with linuxbridge so i decided to switch to ovs | 16:51 |
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| john5223 | now that i've setup ovs... my instance boots and nova says it has ip assigned | 16:51 |
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| john5223 | but... can't ping it | 16:51 |
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| Sam-I-Am | do you have a dhcp namespace on the controller/network node? | 16:52 |
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| john5223 | ip netns shows qdhcp | 16:53 |
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| john5223 | i have controller+network together | 16:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah | 16:54 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so if you do ip netns exec qdhcp-### ping <ip of vm> | 16:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | does it work? | 16:54 |
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| swati | Hi...is any1 available to discuss about blueprints here? | 16:57 |
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| john5223 | Sam-I-Am, yes it pings that way | 16:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | john5223: can you ping the vms ip from outside of the controller node? | 16:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | something else on the same network | 16:57 |
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| john5223 | oh what the heck | 16:57 |
| john5223 | now its pinging from controller node too without the namespace | 16:58 |
| john5223 | so...working now | 16:58 |
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| Sam-I-Am | sounds like there might have been an arp issue | 16:58 |
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| john5223 | and its really weird b/c i was checking for that dhcp namespace before (last night) after booting instances | 16:59 |
| john5223 | and it wasn't there | 16:59 |
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| Sam-I-Am | magic | 16:59 |
| john5223 | maybe my config changes did something | 16:59 |
| john5223 | yeah...or magic | 16:59 |
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| Sam-I-Am | swati: hi | 17:00 |
| Sam-I-Am | mostly magic | 17:00 |
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| john5223 | haha. thanks Sam-I-Am | 17:03 |
| and | Sam-I-Am: any idea why "ova-ofctl show br-int", on network node, shows this mac : 3(qr-0310e6b7-f2): addr:77:00:00:00:00:00 for the router interface when "ip nets exec router ifconfig" shows a different one? | 17:04 |
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| Sam-I-Am | and: i dont know | 17:06 |
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| Sam-I-Am | oh wait, ova? | 17:06 |
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| Sam-I-Am | not ovs-ofctl? | 17:06 |
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| and | ovs , sorry | 17:06 |
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| and | Sam-I-Am: i'm guessing this is why qrouter can't ping anything | 17:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | this is odd | 17:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | i dont have an environment running OVS... let me get one up so i can look around | 17:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | but it seems like something is off | 17:12 |
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| and | Sam-I-Am: i'm guessing this is why qrouter can't ping anything | 17:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | i wonder how things got into this state | 17:17 |
| and | 7(qr-a310071b-32): addr:77:00:00:00:00:00 config: PORT_DOWN state: LINK_DOWN speed: 0 Mbps now, 0 Mbps max | 17:17 |
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| Sam-I-Am | and: so mine just have all zeros | 17:31 |
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| Sam-I-Am | and: so thats probably not your problem | 17:31 |
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| and | Sam-I-Am: damn it...just when i though i found the problem | 17:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | and: let me launch an instance here and poke around | 17:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | can you ping the router ip from anywhere else? | 17:33 |
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| Sam-I-Am | like... some host on the same network | 17:33 |
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| and | Sam-I-Am: nope, same problems as yesterday | 17:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | and: did you ever have l2population enabled? | 17:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | or make any changes to neutron after you created your networks? | 17:34 |
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| and | last night i made a fresh deploy, but same behaviour. No changes in configs. I'll try now to replicate the previous deployments when everything was ok. | 17:36 |
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| Sam-I-Am | and: whats the base os here? | 17:37 |
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| and | the only changes i've made in deployment was adding telemetry service with mongodb | 17:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | so this worked at some point? | 17:37 |
| and | centos 6.5 | 17:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | oh dear | 17:37 |
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| Sam-I-Am | thats horribad | 17:37 |
| and | what aspect? | 17:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | kilo will not work on < 7 | 17:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | nor will juno i think | 17:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | maybe | 17:37 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the kernel in < 7 is too old for neutron | 17:38 |
| and | hm.. | 17:38 |
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| and | well..he problem is that mirantis fuel 7.0 which works on kilo doesn't have the centos version, only ubuntu | 17:39 |
| and | the* | 17:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah, looking at the docs... we dropped support for rhel/centos less than 7 in juno | 17:39 |
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| and | i see | 17:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | so thats an unsupported configuration | 17:39 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i bet thats why you're seeing weird stuff | 17:40 |
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| Sam-I-Am | its probably also an ancient version of openvswitch | 17:40 |
| and | 2.3.1 ovs version | 17:40 |
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| Sam-I-Am | thats not too old, but i doubt it works with cent 6.5 | 17:42 |
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| terje | anyone using NAT64 in production? | 17:44 |
| sc68cal | terje: if they are, it's outside of openstack | 17:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | terje: ipv6+nat = poor life choices | 17:44 |
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| and | Sam-I-Am: So, how do you recommend to deploy openstack? I chose fuel for the mellanox infiniband plugin they have. But as expected, they aren't 100% aligned with latest releases. | 17:45 |
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| jidar | it's all going to be good and bad | 17:45 |
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| jidar | I use RDO/OSP for customer because it's what they want | 17:46 |
| jidar | Fuel likely has the easiest tool to use | 17:46 |
| jidar | both are going to be lacking in flexibility | 17:46 |
| jidar | the alternative is hand building it with the right puppet modules or salt | 17:46 |
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| Sam-I-Am | well... i'd take a look at openstack-ansible | 17:48 |
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| jidar | or right, ansible | 17:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | right now it only supports ubuntu, but it would not be hard to make it work on rh | 17:48 |
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| Sam-I-Am | there's a lot of interest in making it distro-agnostic... just need some contributors | 17:48 |
| sc68cal | Sam-I-Am: you're taking the food right of my non-existent childrens' mouths | 17:49 |
| jidar | Sam-I-Am: Juno runs on rhel7 just as a fyi | 17:49 |
| jidar | (not out of mirantis, but OSP6) | 17:49 |
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| dmz | i'm looking at how to upgrade from juno ubuntu to ansible latest git; gonna be a fun 2016 :) | 17:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | jidar: yeah, i know juno works on 7 | 17:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | just not 6 | 17:49 |
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| jidar | ah right on | 17:49 |
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| Sam-I-Am | sc68cal: wat? | 17:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | jidar: https://github.com/cloudnull/os-ansible-deployment/tree/master-rhel | 17:49 |
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| sc68cal | Sam-I-Am: tellin people to use ansible instead of fuel | 17:50 |
| sc68cal | Sam-I-Am: how dare you - our friendship is over - you're dead to me, and also written out of the will | 17:50 |
| cloudnull | .doit() | 17:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | sc68cal: oh, i didnt un-suggest fuel | 17:50 |
| cloudnull | :) | 17:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | however, using ovs at the host level is enraging :) | 17:51 |
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| Sam-I-Am | cloudnull: how is that rhel-ness coming on? | 17:51 |
| cloudnull | Sam-I-Am jidar: that branch is a bit old at this point. | 17:51 |
| cloudnull | i did that as a poc and it worked | 17:51 |
| cloudnull | and passed defcore | 17:52 |
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| cloudnull | however at that time there wasnt a lot of interest in RHEL as an OS. | 17:52 |
| cloudnull | i think thats changing however idk at this point | 17:52 |
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| Sam-I-Am | cloudnull: i see a lot of shops hell-bent on rhel/centos, so it makes sense to support it | 17:53 |
| cloudnull | i agree | 17:53 |
| jidar | ^ | 17:53 |
| * sc68cal has two settings. Cirros and FreeBSD | 17:53 | |
| Sam-I-Am | does fuel change its base OS with every release? | 17:53 |
| cloudnull | i just need more than myself to want to maintain it for openstack-ansible to want to support it | 17:53 |
| jidar | I originally picked it because I was more familiar with CentOS/RHEL | 17:53 |
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| Sam-I-Am | jidar: the biggest problem we see with rhel shops is a lot of them are still stuck on 6/6.5 | 17:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | and thats a no-no for openstack | 17:54 |
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| Sam-I-Am | unless you want to stay on icehouse forever | 17:54 |
| cloudnull | good point that branch was built for rhel/centos 7 + | 17:54 |
| jidar | one of my customers has 26 different versions of CentOS in their org | 17:54 |
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| cloudnull | jidar: thats terribad | 17:54 |
| jidar | all the way back to CentOS 4.4 | 17:54 |
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| jidar | I told them point blank that's not going to work | 17:54 |
| jidar | this was for puppet though | 17:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | hahahaha | 17:55 |
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| jidar | my old company is still running win2003 for a file server that hosts all of their content | 17:55 |
| * jidar sighs | 17:55 | |
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| jidar | if it an't broke | 17:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | yep. too bad that approach doesnt work with openstack. | 17:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | hopefully that win2003 machine is not anywhere near the internet | 17:56 |
| jidar | one hop away | 17:57 |
| cloudnull | s/too bad that/thank god that/g | 17:57 |
| jidar | heh | 17:57 |
| cloudnull | :p | 17:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | cloudnull: oh, people are trying with lts releases :/ | 17:57 |
| cloudnull | i know... :( | 17:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | there was a loooooong thread about it | 17:57 |
| cloudnull | long live Kilo! | 17:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | icehouse, sir | 17:57 |
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| cloudnull | jidar: #openstack-ansible if you're keen on talking to a few folks about RHEL in openstack-ansible | 17:58 |
| jidar | groovy | 17:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | mmmkay... i have a kilo install going. good opportunity to see how well upgrades work. | 17:58 |
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| odyssey4me | dmz juno to OpenStack-Ansible latest git? prepare for doom... OpenStack-Ansible master runs Mitaka, OpenStack doesn't support upgrades that far along... I'd recommend doing it to the latest Liberty tag at most. | 18:03 |
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| jidar | we should change the topic of the channel to "prepare for doom" | 18:04 |
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| _nick | less talk of doom plz | 18:06 |
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| _nick | i'm about to upgrade our public cloud to kilo | 18:06 |
| _nick | and i'd like for there to be no doom | 18:06 |
| zao | Now where did I put the Invader Zim "Doom song"? | 18:06 |
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| terje | ok, agreen on NAT64. Just told a PM "not supported" | 18:07 |
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| odyssey4me | lol | 18:08 |
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| odyssey4me | _nick I'll hold your beer. :) | 18:08 |
| terje | haha | 18:08 |
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| terje | The only correct answer to questions about doom is: "I've got balls of steel." | 18:09 |
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| Sam-I-Am | _nick: just add booze | 18:09 |
| _nick | i do my best work whilst drunk | 18:09 |
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| Sam-I-Am | it numbs the pain | 18:10 |
| terje | haha, sorry not Doom, Duke Nukem. | 18:10 |
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| terje | oh man. I remember something from a long time ago.. | 18:11 |
| terje | must.find. | 18:11 |
| dmz | odyssey4me thanks; we're still trying to figure out best way to go | 18:11 |
| odyssey4me | dmz feel free to join #openstack-ansible - there are a ton of us there who are happy to give advice | 18:12 |
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| terje | oh yes.. I found it. | 18:12 |
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| terje | incredibly inappropriate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IE3KdcTgrno | 18:14 |
| terje | enjoy! | 18:14 |
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| dmz | odyssey4me will do :) | 18:15 |
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| emme | Hi my nova instances can't access external network. | 18:25 |
| emme | Can anyone please help | 18:25 |
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| bradams | oops | 18:52 |
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| terje | reboot :) | 18:58 |
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| bradams | after recreating my tenant network, my VM is refusing ssh access, even with the right key | 18:58 |
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| bradams | it's a ubuntu cloud image, so no user password | 18:58 |
| terje | are you going in as user ubuntu? | 18:58 |
| bradams | yup | 18:58 |
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| bradams | this is a VM i've used a bunch | 18:59 |
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| terje | I assume you're doing something wrong.. | 18:59 |
| terje | :) | 18:59 |
| terje | wrong perms on your key | 18:59 |
| terje | or wrong key | 18:59 |
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| bradams | nope | 18:59 |
| CrtxReavr | I need help with the python-novaclient module - I need to get the tenant quota. | 18:59 |
| bradams | key never changed | 18:59 |
| bradams | the instance is just refusing access now | 18:59 |
| terje | if you do: nova show $insance|grep key | 19:00 |
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| terje | you're using that key, right? | 19:00 |
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| Verilium | Or, is looking at bridge_mappings in neutron configs the only way to figure out the name of the available networks? | 19:29 |
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| Sam-I-Am | Verilium: thats pretty much it | 19:45 |
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| TMM | hello! I was wondering, is it possible to disable nova's creation of dhcp hostnames based on the vm display name? | 19:47 |
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| TMM | I'd like the hostname to always be in the form of host-ip-ad-re-ss | 19:47 |
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| TMM | I want it to work more like ec2 | 19:53 |
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| TMM | that is to say, no dhcp hostnames | 19:53 |
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| jidar | bradams: set a password in the user-data and troubleshoot from the qrouter netns and on the instance | 19:54 |
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| bradams | jidar: how do i send user data for an instance that's currently running? | 19:55 |
| jidar | you don't | 19:55 |
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| bradams | yeah | 19:55 |
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| jidar | create another one | 19:55 |
| bradams | i have no issues creating a new machine, there's nothing wrong with the image | 19:55 |
| bradams | it's the instance | 19:55 |
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| jidar | no it's the network you destroyed | 19:57 |
| Verilium | Sam-I-Am: Heh, thx. | 19:57 |
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| jidar | recreate the instance with the new network | 19:58 |
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| bradams | well, i thought so, but another instance made off the same base still allows access | 19:58 |
| bradams | there must be some sort of inconsistency i made during all of the recreation | 19:59 |
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| bradams | jidar: and recreating the instance defeats the purpose of recovering it, thought that's what i'm doing now just in case | 20:02 |
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| jidar | are you restoring from a backup? | 20:02 |
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| bradams | jidar: funny enough, this situation revealed another error with glance, that has all my snapshots being killed before being saved, so no | 20:03 |
| bradams | any chance you know anything about glance? | 20:04 |
| bradams | my snapshots are killed without being saved, every time | 20:04 |
| jidar | you got anything in the logs | 20:04 |
| bradams | plenty of space on the disk, no errors i can find, just a create call, a save call immediately followed by a killed call | 20:05 |
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| bradams | i'll try it again though | 20:05 |
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| jidar | bradams: might try enabling debug logs then | 20:07 |
| bradams | already enabled | 20:07 |
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| alaird | trying to use glance-replicate in liberty and was hoping that 'glance-replicator dump -d' would work if 'glance image-list' works | 20:14 |
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| alaird | glance-replicator is throwing a python error about setup() takes at least 2 arguments (1 given) | 20:16 |
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| bradams | jidar: not sure if anyone can find anything i didn't see but here's my glance-registry log: http://paste.openstack.org/show/481376/ and here's my nova-compute log: http://paste.openstack.org/show/481375/ | 20:17 |
| bradams | can't see an error in either, but maybe i'm over looking something | 20:17 |
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| bradams | oops, i think the nova one got chunked | 20:18 |
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| bradams | http://paste.openstack.org/show/481376/ that's a little better | 20:21 |
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| georgem1 | bradams: it looks like the snapshot is saved in "/var/lib/nova/instances/snapshots/tmpsS8J6x/d1fe75fda218401ab3f78b5c2cc7c71d | 20:34 |
| georgem1 | ", do you see anything there? also, anything interesting in the glance-api log? | 20:34 |
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| bradams | i have no idea why i didn't look there. maybe i did and missed it, but there is an error | 20:38 |
| bradams | georgeml: Error in store configuration. Adding images to store is disabled. | 20:39 |
| bradams | gonna check my configs i guess | 20:39 |
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| bradams | hmmm, this may be because i have multiple image store locations configured | 20:40 |
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| bradams | didn't have a problem with icehouse, but maybe it's not the same syntax | 20:41 |
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| Diplomat | Guys, is there an easy way to remove compute nodes from the system or I have to delete them from mysql all the time ? | 20:50 |
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| larsks | Diplomat: There is a 'nova service-delete' command that may be what you're looking for. | 20:51 |
| Diplomat | ah cool, thansk | 20:51 |
| Diplomat | thanks * | 20:51 |
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| Diplomat | yup worked, perfect | 20:54 |
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| bradams | can't seem to get past this glance error: Error in store configuration. Adding images to store is disabled. | 21:01 |
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| CrtxReavr | The docs seem to be asking for user/password, but it doesnt' like the 'admin' credits. | 22:34 |
| CrtxReavr | I expected it to want a token from keystone. | 22:34 |
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