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| larsks | transhuman: you don't *need* vt capable chips, but the performance of software emulation isn't all that great. | 03:07 |
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| larsks | And of course you may opt to deploy, say, docker or lxc containers instead of traditional virtual machines. | 03:08 |
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| larsks | That's exactly what seems to be happening at http://openstack.prov12n.com/openstack-on-raspberry-pi-part-2-getting-started/, which is maybe the article you were reading. | 03:09 |
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| civillia1 | I seem to have hit bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1493858 "Data too long for column 'resource_properties' ..." on a new stack build, does anyone have any suggestions? | 03:50 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1493858 in heat ""Data too long for column 'resource_properties' at row 1"" [High,Fix released] - Assigned to Steven Hardy (shardy) | 03:50 |
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| civillia1 | :q | 03:53 |
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| funeutron | hi all. When configuring networks in a br-ex, I see failure on /var/log/openvswitch/ovs-vswitchd.log installed on networks node | 04:16 |
| funeutron | |netdev_linux|WARN|ioctl(SIOCGIFINDEX) on qg-4ce2b2de-bf device failed: No such device | 04:17 |
| funeutron | Do somebody can help me to understand this issue? | 04:17 |
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| parveen | hii | 04:18 |
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| funeutron | hi | 04:20 |
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| parveen | i'm facing problem when createing windows 10 instance in openstack | 04:22 |
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| funeutron_ | Hi guys | 04:23 |
| gcmacmalloc | I have a really strange issue. Some of my vms start without issue, other cannot mount the root filesystem. same node same image. same libvirt output. nothing in the syslog. | 04:23 |
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| gcmacmalloc | I just started 6 vms on the host, 2 are not mounting the root the 4 others started correctly | 04:24 |
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| transhuman | larsks, I understand that there is some severe limitations in actual production for using docker containers with hadoop, I assume it must be the same for openstack? Are these likely to be solved in the next year or two? | 04:51 |
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| transhuman | larsks, I have a box running vmware esxi with vt capability, I know I can work it so I can nest the virtual capabilites to run it but I assume this would be even worse performance than on the rasberry pi in non vt mode? | 04:55 |
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| gcmacmalloc | so I just checked manually the label is correct on the disk | 05:29 |
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| adun153 | Hello, I need help with configuring trove-api. I see this in trove.conf: "network_driver = trove.network.nova.NovaNetwork" | 05:48 |
| adun153 | But I'm using Neutron, not Nova-network. What's the appropriate driver name? | 05:48 |
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| neeru28__ | I have written test cases for a project in tempest. I am facing issues with the submission of these test cases. These test cases work fine in my local liberty devstack setup. Kindly help me in submission of the test cases. | 07:35 |
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| adun153 | I tried to do a "trove-manage db_sync" to initialize the DB for Trove, and I got this: http://pastebin.com/rV24CjUd | 08:38 |
| adun153 | Did I do anything wrong? How can I fix this? | 08:38 |
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| Muntaner | hello to everyone! I'm having a problem with an all-in-one installation of openstack. Since there is only a single compute node, I think his resources are ending | 08:39 |
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| Muntaner | I have many VMs, and when I try to launch new ones I get the 500 error "No valid host was found" by the nova service... now I'd like to add a new compute node. The installation is an all-in-one, Fedora 22 Kilo Openstack. | 08:40 |
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| Muntaner | Where can I find some reference on how to expand my openstack architecture? Is that 500 error related to the resource exausting of the compute node or are there other problems which I'm not aware of? | 08:42 |
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| adun153 | Muntaner: Just follow the Install Guide | 08:51 |
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| adun153 | except just the part for "Installing the Compute Service", and just follow the part specific for the "Compute Node". | 08:51 |
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| Muntaner | adun153, yes, I'm giving a look right now. In your opinion, that 500 error is related to that? Because, if I have few VMs and try to launch new ones, it does not happen | 08:53 |
| adun153 | Muntaner: When it says "No Valid Host Found", it probably means that nova-scheduler was not able to find available hardware resources for running the VM. | 08:54 |
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| adun153 | f you're on Horizon, check under Admin >> System >> Hypervisors to see usage:capacity of your all-in-one node. | 08:55 |
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| Muntaner | ok adun153, thanks! I'd like to ask you another thing. Does the nova-scheduler automatically search for the new hosts where to launch the new machines? | 08:55 |
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| adun153 | Muntaner: Yes, as long as you have the new Compute node configured correctly, nova-scheduler should just find it "automatically". | 08:56 |
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| Muntaner | adun153, ok! can I manually choose the compute where to launch a VM or is this thing completely "uncontrollable" ? | 08:58 |
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| adun153 | From Horizon, AFAIK, it is uncontrollable, via CLI Commands, probably; I'm not sure. | 08:59 |
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| Muntaner | adun153, I'm seeing that I have 90ish VCPUs on my 32cpu machines. In my nova.conf I don't have a VCPU/CPU rate field specified. Is this decided automatically? It seems like I have a *3 rate set by default | 09:30 |
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| admin0 | default is 16:1 | 09:31 |
| adun153 | Muntaner: Yes, there is a default CPU overcommit rate, I don't know what the exact default value is, though. | 09:32 |
| admin0 | RAM, disk might also be a factor for the schedule | 09:32 |
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| Muntaner | adun153, thanks | 09:40 |
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| Muntaner | you helped me in understanding a lot of things :) | 09:40 |
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| Muntaner | adun153, when I'll install the new compute node, will the controller "automatically" fetch the new module or should I do something also on the controller? | 09:41 |
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| adun153 | Muntaner: It should be automatic if the configs are correct. | 09:47 |
| adun153 | Don't forget to fix the Networking side of the Compute Node as well. | 09:47 |
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| cooldharma06 | hi all | 11:23 |
| cooldharma06 | i am vif_binding failed in my nova-compute.log | 11:23 |
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| cooldharma06 | any suggestions>.??? | 11:24 |
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| Sam-I-Am | dolphm: moo | 14:31 |
| dolphm | Sam-I-Am: cluck | 14:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | dolphm: while updating the install guide, i found out that uuid+memcached is deprecated in favor of fernet | 14:31 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so the install guide for mitaka will use fernet, unless you think thats not a good idea | 14:32 |
| dolphm | Sam-I-Am: that's news to me lol, but we are certainly pushing for that as fast as we can | 14:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | well, there a deprecation message generated | 14:32 |
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| dolphm | Sam-I-Am: really? | 14:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | yep | 14:33 |
| dolphm | Sam-I-Am: we haven't switched the default in keystone just yet, because it fails some persnickity tempest tests | 14:33 |
| dolphm | (fernet fails) | 14:33 |
| dolphm | in the real world, i recommend most deployers use fernet | 14:33 |
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| Sam-I-Am | Deprecated: Memcache Token Persistence Driver is deprecated as of Mitaka in favor of fernet token driver (no-persistence). | 14:33 |
| dolphm | deployers that have switched are happy | 14:33 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i was going to ask why devstack didnt default to it, but apparently you answered that question for me | 14:34 |
| dolphm | Sam-I-Am: ah, that doesn't include UUID + SQL then | 14:34 |
| dolphm | which is our current default | 14:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah, just memcached | 14:34 |
| dolphm | Sam-I-Am: but we should have fernet as the default by the time mitaka ships | 14:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | which apparently keystoneauth1 uses now for local caching | 14:34 |
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| dolphm | Sam-I-Am: sure, we use memcache/whatever everywhere for caching | 14:34 |
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| Sam-I-Am | should that memcached be local to each machine, or just on the controller node? | 14:35 |
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| dolphm | Sam-I-Am: for keystoneauth1? | 14:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah | 14:35 |
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| dolphm | Sam-I-Am: keystoneauth1 can run anywhere, so it depends on what's utilizing it (a service, a standalone client, etc) | 14:36 |
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| dolphm | Sam-I-Am: in general though, sensitive things can be cached, so be careful who you're sharing memcache with | 14:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | in this case, its when a service grabs a token | 14:36 |
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| dolphm | Sam-I-Am: so, that service shouldn't share memcache with anything else that it should not trust. if everything in your control plane trusts everything else, then share a single memcache instance | 14:38 |
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| Sam-I-Am | for the install guide we sort of assume things are trusted | 14:38 |
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| Sam-I-Am | just makes it easier | 14:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | oh btw i found your fernet config bits in a blog post :) | 14:39 |
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| Sam-I-Am | for the love of docs lol | 14:39 |
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| dolphm | Sam-I-Am: yay? lol | 14:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | shouldnt that go... somewhere else? like the admin guide? | 14:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | at least configuring keystone specifically | 14:40 |
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| dolphm | Sam-I-Am: which article are you talking about? | 14:47 |
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| Sam-I-Am | http://dolphm.com/openstack-keystone-fernet-tokens/ | 14:47 |
| dolphm | Sam-I-Am: i've written several mostly for the sake of advancing the conversation with developers, not intending to formally document how to deploy it for operators | 14:47 |
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| dolphm | Sam-I-Am: that's probably better captured here http://docs.openstack.org/developer/keystone/configuration.html#encryption-keys-for-fernet | 14:50 |
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| dolphm | Sam-I-Am: which also goes into the different stages of keys, max_active_keys, etc | 14:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | sure. is anyone planning to update the operator-centric material? | 14:50 |
| dolphm | Sam-I-Am: i'd be happy to if something is missing - what needs to be updated? | 14:51 |
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| Sam-I-Am | looking here - if there's anything removed/deprecated in keystone, it probably needs to be removed | 14:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | http://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide-cloud/identity_management.html | 14:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | looks like some fernet stuff is there, which is good | 14:52 |
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| Sam-I-Am | this it well out of date - http://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide-cloud/identity_auth_token_middleware.html | 14:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | is | 14:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | i just dont know who from keystone is keeping on top of that stuff | 14:53 |
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| ccesario | hello.... could someone please tell what is the best way to provide a complete instance backup (with all volumes attached) ? | 15:10 |
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| admin0 | automate it using ansible/puppet ;) | 15:10 |
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| f10d4 | ohai | 15:30 |
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| ccesario | admin0, do you any doc about this ? | 15:35 |
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| admin0 | sorry .. it was a wrong answer | 15:35 |
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| admin0 | basically , you need to back them up .. or rsync it | 15:36 |
| admin0 | volumes are already mounted = rsync = possible | 15:36 |
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| tyagiprince | I am trying to set the correct entry in the openstack dns which should be the instance name. For that I made some changes to the code where dns entry is given. For that I made the hostname lookup for the instance through it ip. But my instance is not able to boot up. It is still booting with the 169.254.169.254 in the routing table | 15:40 |
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| tyagiprince | How do I pass the neutron metadata proxy? | 15:42 |
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| admin0 | anyone using openstack-ansible ? | 15:43 |
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| onlyanegg | From the glance developer docs: 'Currently Cinder store is a partial implementation. After Cinder expose ‘brick’ library, and ‘Readonly-volume-attaching’, ‘volume-multiple-attaching’ enhancement ready, the store will support ‘Upload’ and ‘Download’ interface finally.' | 16:47 |
| onlyanegg | Does this mean that it's not possible to create an image using the cinder backend? | 16:47 |
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| onlyanegg | It seems like that's the case (on Kilo at least). The filesystem backend driver is much more complete and has functions like 'add' and 'delete' | 17:08 |
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| codyaray | i'm trying to figure out if mistral itself is high availability? i see that it can resume a failed task on a new node, but what if the host running the mistral service fails? | 17:20 |
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| Kvisle | does anyone have any idea why the liberty installation guide does not use openvswitch, like the kilo installation guide does? | 17:27 |
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| Sam-I-Am | Kvisle: ovs doesnt provide any advantages over linux bridge in that architecture and linux bridge is easier to understand | 17:30 |
| Sam-I-Am | fewer moving parts = better | 17:30 |
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| Kvisle | Sam-I-Am: thanks | 17:34 |
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| Kvisle | I feel I may have underestimated the complexity of neutron a little - I'm just aiming for a traditional vlan setup for starters | 17:35 |
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| Sam-I-Am | traditional vlan meaning... just layer-2 support? | 17:37 |
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| Kvisle | Sam-I-Am: yes .. we have a lot of tenants in different vlans today, and I'm looking for the shortest route to be able to start VM's in those networks | 17:39 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you could look at the provider network scenarios in the networking guide at docs.openstack.org | 17:39 |
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| Kvisle | looking at them right now | 17:40 |
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| georgem1 | Sam-I-Am: does openvswitch have any disadvantages vs. linux bridge? | 18:28 |
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| boltR | how does one know when to use the Nova CLI versus the Neutron CLI for managing networks? | 18:53 |
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| Sam-I-Am | boltR: you should try to use the openstack client if possible | 18:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | if that doesnt have what you want (yet) use the neutron client | 18:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | the nova client does some things, but it sort of flavors them like nova-net | 18:55 |
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| boltR | Sam-I-Am: ah I see | 18:55 |
| boltR | okay that's good to know, thanks | 18:55 |
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| zenpac | When trying to add an instance to my Ceph-enabled OpenStack I get this: 'Host kilo-allinone.zenoss.loc has more disk space than database expected (104gb > 101gb)' | 19:01 |
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| zenpac | 104GB is the size of my Ceph cluster. | 19:02 |
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| zenpac | http://paste.debian.net/hidden/88bc4dc6/ is the UI error. | 19:04 |
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| zenpac | Possibly a bug: https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/56730/nova-scheduler-warning-host-has-more-disk-space-than-database-expected-on-launching-instances/ | 19:18 |
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| georgem1 | Sam-I-Am: does openvswitch have any disadvantages vs. linux bridge? | 19:34 |
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| Sam-I-Am | georgem1: by itself, ovs is more complex than necessary | 19:36 |
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| georgem1 | Sam-I-Am: I agree, but there are benefits to this complexity, like for example sending sflow statistics | 19:45 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you could probably get those out of linuxbridge too | 19:47 |
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| georgem1 | Sam-I-Am: interface level statistics yes, but not actual instance traffic at the IP level; anyway, I was curious if are aware of any disadvantages, other than the added complexity and decreased throughput of openvswitch | 19:53 |
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| Sam-I-Am | georgem1: you should probably be looking at OVN | 19:53 |
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| Sam-I-Am | it more or less takes OVS and does useful things with it | 19:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | security groups are managed in ovs, as is routing between private networks | 19:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | no namespaces, linux bridges for SG, etc | 19:54 |
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| georgem1 | never heard of it, but I'll take a look, thanks | 19:56 |
| georgem1 | is it stable/production ready? | 19:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | no | 19:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | well, sort of | 19:57 |
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| Sam-I-Am | networking-ovn is the repo | 19:57 |
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| Sam-I-Am | its going through a lot of scaling tests now (something other neutron things never did), so stuff is still getting fixed | 19:57 |
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| Sam-I-Am | there's no support yet for nat/fips, but frankly there are better ways to deploy cloud networking | 19:57 |
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| M|6 | hello; i have a .htaccess question that i can't seem to find a proper solution and my mind is blanking out looking at this code. | 21:23 |
| M|6 | http://pastebin.com/PuDE5WkE | 21:23 |
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| M|6 | oops | 21:24 |
| M|6 | my bad | 21:24 |
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| apuch_ | ping nsasherr | 21:40 |
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| apuch_ | nsasherr, how did the vm io testing go ? | 21:41 |
| nsasherr | apuch_, I've been able to reproduce the issue entirely outside of openstack in kvm, so I've put in a support request with redhat. | 21:41 |
| apuch_ | sweet | 21:41 |
| nsasherr | apuch_, thanks for your help | 21:41 |
| apuch_ | it maybe ibm drivers | 21:42 |
| apuch_ | would be my guess what RH may say 1st | 21:42 |
| apuch_ | as always KISS | 21:42 |
| nsasherr | apuch_, thanks | 21:42 |
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| apuch_ | so I would open a ticket with IBM and RH with the ticket numbers for both in each case | 21:42 |
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| transhuman | larsks, I understand that there is some severe limitations in actual production for using docker containers with hadoop, I assume it must be the same for openstack? Are these likely to be solved in the next year or two | 22:05 |
| transhuman | larsks, I have a box running vmware esxi with vt capability, I know I can work it so I can nest the virtual capabilites to run it but I assume this would be even worse performance than on the rasberry pi in non vt mode? | 22:05 |
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| larsks | transhuman: I don't have any hadoop experience...so I guess I don't have a good answer for you there. | 22:06 |
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| larsks | ...but I suspect the performance of soft emulation on a raspberry pi would be pretty terrible in any case. | 22:08 |
| transhuman | ok so basically I wouldnt really be gaining much | 22:08 |
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| transhuman | I was also looking at a bunch of small miniatx computers or smaller ones from 1 or 2 years ago, if I could find ones that are vt enabled | 22:09 |
| larsks | That might be a better choice, yeah. | 22:09 |
| * larsks has to take off. Good luck! | 22:10 | |
| transhuman | ok thanks | 22:10 |
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| facethefactsdamn | hey guys is it possible to run openstack with an external dhcp? | 23:01 |
| facethefactsdamn | im evaluating kilo | 23:01 |
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| Sam-I-Am | facethefactsdamn: not practically | 23:08 |
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| facethefactsdamn | Sam-I-Am: could you elaborate just a tiny bit? | 23:09 |
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| Sam-I-Am | openstack is only going to talk to a dhcp server it controls at this point | 23:11 |
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| Sam-I-Am | there are some other mechanisms out there to use existing servers, but they're not there yet | 23:11 |
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| Guest45719 | hey Sam-I-Am, ever see this error before? its happening during live migration | 23:20 |
| Guest45719 | 2016-02-11 17:48:02.740 23743 ERROR nova.virt.libvirt.driver [req-29678f93-6984-4153-aad3-ca774c298a06 99903c87e9ab4bb3b29bc51b0943330c 7f43cc16e3714f1c84e525455ddb7495 - - -] [instance: a820d1c7-9cf0-4d77-943b-cf5c75d8ffb8] Live Migration failure: Cannot check QEMU binary /usr/bin/kvm-spice: No such file or directory | 23:20 |
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| Guest45719 | that file does exist, its a symlink to /usr/bin/kvm-spice | 23:21 |
| Guest45719 | but I have no idea what or why its looking there? | 23:22 |
| Guest45719 | or why its failing ? | 23:22 |
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