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muraliHello03:32
muraliAnyone here?03:33
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muraliI am planning to implement one feature in cloudkitty client03:33
muraliSo I need to know the table implementation method03:33
muraliCan anyone be able to show me the file which nova using for display of details for nova show --instance_id03:34
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jonathan1i have somewhat of a noob question05:16
jonathan1i've been using openstack for years.  i set up mirantis 5.0 in 2015 and i used nova networking and it was simple.05:16
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jonathan1i switched to mirantis 7.0.  i used an actual routable /24 for the external network because i had it available.  it assigns IPs to my tenant instances but i cannot reach them.05:17
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jonathan1/whois jonathan105:20
jonathan1oops05:20
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srini_hi all . i have a query . i want to configure  ovs flows to compute node using opendaylight .Do i need to integrate ODL to network node or simple connecting ODL to my compute will work .06:07
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yglHI all06:49
ygli am having problems in uploading images of sizes 3GB in to siwft06:49
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shajbye09:56
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ThiefMasterhey, just found this ml post on google: http://osdir.com/ml/openstack-dev/2016-02/msg02047.html - it's most likely caused by an issue in setuptools==20.2.1 (https://bitbucket.org/pypa/setuptools/issues/501/error-installing-zopeapppublication-with)10:06
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ThiefMasteri don't want to subscribe to the mailing list so if someone wants to try it out and post it in that thread you're welcome ;)10:07
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domenkozarwhat's best to debug11:28
domenkozarSecurity Group 38203ea2-c81d-4707-be0d-95c21233b6ac in use11:28
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mparisiis it possible to use an openwrt device as Neutron installing openvswitch on it?12:09
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adun153I'm running into a problem wherein Images I create through Horizon have no owner, under Project owner, its just a dash "-". What could be the cause of that?12:30
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domenkozar| 1640bd69-684b-4839-95c7-784ff6615418 | vm1  | DELETED | deleting   | NOSTATE     | 1=::10; public=203.0.113.102 |12:37
domenkozarwhy doesn't nova 12.0.0. delete the instance correctly if it failed to boot?12:38
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iceyis there any way for me to unsign a document so I can resign it? apparently, I /have/ to put contact information on the ICLA contributor agreement but it's not required on the form fields; now I'm in a place where I can't update that agreement to add contact info and I can't create a new one because it's already signed. Whenever I do `git review -sv` in the sandbox repo, I get: ICLA contributor agreement requires current contact information.12:58
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domenkozarhow are instances in error state supposed to be deleted in libery release?13:31
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cucumber_What do you think is better: To boot an instance with, let's say, 100GB from an image, and then attach to it a volume (cinder) of 1TB, or to create a volume of 1.1TB, make it from an image (bootable), and run the instance from the volume?13:55
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adun153cucumber: Depends on your purpose.14:01
adun153cucumber: I would go with the first option14:02
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adun153I prefer keeping the data separate from the OS as much as possible.14:04
roziehello. quick question about swift command14:04
cucumber_adun153, yes, but you can achieve that with two volumes, one of 100G and the other one 1TB.14:05
roziewhat is the difference between --os-tenant-name and --os-project-name parameter?14:05
adun153but if you are going to be importing/exporting the instance out of the cloud a lot, I'd go with the latter option14:05
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adun153cucumber: You can, too. But the purpose  of an Image is to have static, base platforms that you can use. Volumes are for dynamically changing data.14:06
cucumber_adun153, my question goes more to discuss between using the first option (that I understand the disk runs in glance as a ephemereal disk) or using volumes, which runs in Cinder (cinder using iSCSI in my case)14:06
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adun153rozie: I don't consider myself an expert, but AFAIK, "tenant" is just an older term for "project". I always set both to the same values.14:07
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adun153Some documentation use the term tenant, and some use the term project.14:07
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adun153If there are differences between them, I don't know about them. To me, the terms are interchangeable.14:07
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cucumber_rozie, I agree with adun153. In my case I use "export OS_TENANT_NAME=[Project_name]"14:08
adun153cucumber_: Yes. Sorry, it's a bit late for me. I think I'm missing something.14:08
rozieadun153: I have the same knowledge. tenant was used in Juno. In Kilo, for v3 api project came. But swift seems to have 2 separate options. I guess it should be merged.14:08
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adun153cucumber_: What exactly are you asking about? :D14:09
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cucumber_adun153, the thing is in the past I used to create an instance from an image with 100G and then use volumes for the data.. but somebody that knows a lot of cinder and stuff told me nobody does that in production. Everybody does the volume thing (starting everything from volumes)14:10
cucumber_so I'm confused14:10
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adun153cucumber_: They must know something I don't know, since I don't see the advantage of doing so. I use Images and Volumes together for my stuff.14:12
cucumber_ok, thanks14:12
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adun153cucumber_: If they ever find a valid, compelling reason to do so, let me know as well :p14:12
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adun153*If you ever14:12
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cucumber_the reason he gives me is "running from Image is running over a ephemeral disk, which is crazy", basically14:14
cucumber_I  mean.. running an OS over an ephemeral disk is crazy14:14
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cucumber_that's it14:14
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adun153cucumber_: I guess I can see where he/she is coming from.14:15
cucumber_?14:16
cucumber_adun153, what do you mean?14:16
adun153So, it really depends on the amount of care and customization you put into creating your Images.14:16
adun153Some people use just the most generic Image (i.e.fresh-installed  ubuntu 14.04) over and over again.14:16
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adun153some people use a fresh-installed Ubuntu 14.04, make their customizations (turn it into a webserver, DB server, what-have-you), then snapshot that to make a new image.14:17
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adun153So when they need to scale out their services, they just create more instances of their customized Image.14:18
adun153Do you get what I mean?14:18
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adun153I think that people who  use Volumes as their OS partitions treat their Instances like physical servers - the OS is indispensable.14:19
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adun153I guess I belong in the other camp - I believe that in the cloud era, Instances are "disposable" - what's really indispensable is the data in the Volume. The Image is just a means to an end - either to serve the data from the Volume, or to process and store the data into the Volume.14:20
adun153Am I making sense? :D I've had a long day, and am about to get ready for bed.14:21
adun153cucumber_14:21
cucumber_yes, I'm reading :)14:21
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cucumber_adun153, I agree with you. Thanks.14:21
adun153So, it really depends on what your perspective is regarding instances/VMs.14:21
cucumber_yes..14:21
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cucumber_I'd love to have another opinion, before decide what road to take...14:22
adun153That's my 2 cents on the matter14:22
cucumber_anybody?14:22
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adun153:D14:22
cucumber_thank you adun15314:22
adun153no prob, cucumber_14:23
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roziehttps://ask.openstack.org/en/question/88911/swift-in-kilo-difference-between-os-tenant-name-and-os-project-name/14:41
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doncucumberIf I try to delete a volume snapshot and fails... I'm screwed? there is no way to delete afterwards? (Liberty)15:25
doncucumberit current status is "Error deleting"15:25
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cr0wrxanyone in here been to the openstack summit and have thoughts on it? I'm fairly new to openstack and am thinking about attending this year.16:36
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georgem1cr0wrx:sure, what do you want to know?17:02
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maishskI have a compute node that I have tried to migrate instances off - but it is stuck at ‘pre-migrating’ stage for more than an hour17:37
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siebjeeHi All, Currently i'm running an 3 node openstack liberty cluster, 1 controller, 2 compute nodes. But now i want to run docker containers on the compute node.I followed the wiki https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Docker . But Can't get the containers running.17:46
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siebjeeSome one able to assist me ?17:46
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Razvais Liberty ready for production, or should I go with Kilo?17:59
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doncucumberRazva, if you can, wait for Mitaka. That's what I was told.18:16
doncucumberI'm not an expert18:16
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doncucumberI did this question earlier and I want another view point:18:17
doncucumberWhat do you think is better: To boot an instance with, let's say, 100GB from an image, and then attach to it a volume (cinder) of 1TB, or to create a volume of 1.1TB, make it from an image (bootable), and run the instance from the volume?18:17
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doncucumberMy question goes more to discuss between using the first option (that I understand the disk runs in glance as a ephemereal disk) or using volumes, which runs in Cinder (cinder using iSCSI in my case)18:17
drawsmcgrawdoncucumber: I keep thing separate so that updating either one is simple18:18
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drawsmcgrawdoncucumber: But re: your comment about Liberty vs Mitaka. Is there something in particular about this release? I'm targeting a rebuild of my cluster in the next few months and was planning on using Liberty.18:18
doncucumberdrawsmcgraw, so, OS just direct from image and data, using Volume18:18
doncucumberright?18:18
drawsmcgrawSince, in theory, it's had a number of bugs worked out of it.18:18
drawsmcgrawdoncucumber: correct.18:19
drawsmcgrawThat's just my opinion. I actually don't run Cinder (yet). But that would be my approach.18:19
drawsmcgrawMaking almighty-all-in-one things, in general, has only led me to ruin in the past.18:19
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doncucumberdrawsmcgraw, about liberty and stuff.. I was TOLD Mitaka will have a lot more features... and Liberty has to be taken as a "in between" version. That's what somebody follows closely the development told me at least.18:20
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drawsmcgrawdoncucumber: Fascinating.... I'll have to dig into this a little more in that case. Thanks!18:22
maishskI have a compute node that I have tried to migrate instances off - but it is stuck at ‘pre-migrating’ stage for more than an hour18:23
doncucumberdrawsmcgraw, I insist.. that's what I was told.. no more than that.18:23
drawsmcgrawdoncucumber: Of course. Noted.18:23
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drawsmcgrawmaishsk: I've had to migrate instances with fairly large disks. Those migrations were several hours18:24
drawsmcgrawSo long as it hasn't returned with an error and you don't see anything bad in the logs, it might just be the case that there's a lot of disk to migrate.18:25
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siebjeeSome one running docker on openstack that is able to help me getting it up and running ?18:32
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drawsmcgrawsiebjee: I'm running Docker on instances in Openstack. Not using any special services though.18:35
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siebjeedrawsmcgraw: I did follow the wiki, and trying to test an instance with the image of busybox, but it sais no bootable device18:35
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siebjeedrawsmcgraw: And it looks like it isnt starting a container, cuz docker ps doesn't show anything18:36
drawsmcgrawsiebjee: Ah. So trying to launch an instance with the busybox image?18:36
drawsmcgrawsiebjee: I'm not familiar with the wiki article. Have a link?18:36
siebjeedrawsmcgraw: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Docker18:37
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siebjeedrawsmcgraw: i followed it step by step18:37
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siebjeedrawsmcgraw: and confirmed that docker is working with an good old plain "docker run -t -i busybox /bin/sh"18:37
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drawsmcgrawsiebjee: So you mean you can run that 'docker run' command on a compute host?18:39
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maishskdrawsmcgraw: so there are errors in the logs18:40
siebjeedrawsmcgraw: yes18:40
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maishskwhat happens if I restart the nova-compute service on the node?18:40
drawsmcgrawWhen you try to create a Docker instance, is the image format 'docker' ?18:40
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drawsmcgrawi.e. when you 'glance image-list', does that show that your image is 'docker' under the 'container format' column?18:40
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siebjeedrawsmcgraw: I imported the image with docker save | glance... And indeed with --container-formate=docker18:41
drawsmcgrawDuring a migration? That's a good question. I'd be hesitant to do it but that doesn't mean it would kill your migration.18:41
siebjeedrawsmcgraw: let me boot up my controller.18:41
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drawsmcgrawsiebjee: I'd increase the nova logging to debug and watch the logs as you attempt to deploy your Docker instance.18:42
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siebjeedrawsmcgraw: http://paste.openstack.org/show/488244/ the glance image-list18:44
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siebjeeit doesn't show the image type :x18:44
drawsmcgrawsiebjee: try 'glance show <uid>'18:44
drawsmcgrawAnd I understand having duplicates because of debugging reasons, but it'd be good to remove duplicate names from your image list once you're done.18:45
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siebjeedrawsmcgraw: http://paste.openstack.org/show/488245/ < Added glance image-show <uid>18:46
drawsmcgraw| disk_format      | raw18:47
drawsmcgrawI'd start there18:47
siebjeeAnd removed the duplicate18:47
siebjeeThats what the wiki said :x18:47
drawsmcgrawIf you want to launch that as a Docker container, find a way to re-glance in that image with18:47
drawsmcgrawinteresting.. let me glance back at the wiki18:47
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siebjeedrawsmcgraw: glance image-create --name ${IMAGE} --visibility public --container-format docker --disk-format raw18:48
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drawsmcgrawah. I was looking at the wrong column. Apologies18:48
drawsmcgrawIs it possible your Nova isn't set up to support 'raw' disk images?18:49
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siebjeedrawsmcgraw: how to be sure ?18:49
drawsmcgrawGood question. I'm not certain :/18:50
drawsmcgrawI know I have to import qcow2 images for my cluster.18:50
drawsmcgrawBut I've never taken the time to visit all the options (and their configs) for the different image types18:50
siebjeedrawsmcgraw: does it help to mention i'm running liberty ?18:50
siebjeeOn ubuntu 14.04 LTS fully updated18:51
drawsmcgrawNot for me, unfortunately. I'm still stuck on Icehouse (planning a rebuild soon)18:51
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siebjeeLet me grab a clear nova log for you, maybe you see something i have missed18:51
drawsmcgrawfair enough18:51
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mparisiis it possible to use an openwrt device as Neutron installing openvswitch on it?18:52
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siebjeedrawsmcgraw: oh great.. i think i wrecked something... "No valid host was found. There are not enough hosts available" let me fix that first =)18:54
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drawsmcgrawHah. I've seen that a million times :)18:55
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drawsmcgrawI have to step away for meetings and stuff. Keep posting, though, and hopefully I (or someone else) will see something.18:55
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siebjeedrawsmcgraw: Enjoy the meetings =) cheers for the assistance =)18:55
Razvais Liberty ready for production, or should I go with Kilo?18:56
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drawsmcgrawsiebjee: Sure thing. Sorry I can't do much more.18:56
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D4RKS1D3Hi, someone can helpme? How can I create tenants via API? Thanks19:03
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siebjeedrawsmcgraw: Okay, got the isntance running again19:25
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siebjeedrawsmcgraw: the supposed docker boot of the image: busybox nova log: http://paste.openstack.org/show/488254/19:29
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siebjeeWhile docker ps remains empty19:30
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drawsmcgrawsiebjee: So the instance spawns successfully, but it says there's "no boot device" ?19:32
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siebjeedrawsmcgraw: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ht9cc2ut0ou6fvo/Screenshot%202016-02-25%2020.32.59.png?dl=019:33
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siebjeedrawsmcgraw: the console output19:33
drawsmcgrawgotcha19:33
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siebjeedrawsmcgraw: The instance is running yes. However this is not a docker container. Since docker ps is not showing anything. Also a collegue of mine looked at it. And he noticed that the driver is not loading or something. But was not able to figure out why.19:34
drawsmcgrawoh?19:35
drawsmcgrawhold19:35
siebjeeLooks like a meme: One does not simply spawn containers with OpenStack19:35
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drawsmcgrawsiebjee: This guy fixed his problem with a 'pip install pbr' on his compute node. Do you see errors in your log similar to what's on here? https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/45590/docker-openstack-nova-instances-dont-boot/19:35
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siebjeeLet me check19:36
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drawsmcgrawsiebjee: you can also run 'pip search pbr' and the output (while noisy) will tell you if the package is installed.19:36
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blammohi, i'm reading https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Virtualization_Administration_Guide/form-Virtualization-Overcommitting_with_KVM-Overcommitting_virtualized_CPUs.html in regards to overcommitting CPUs.  It sounds like it is saying that if you have 2 cpus and 8 cores each, that each VM shouldn't have more than 2 VCPUs at a 5:1 ratio (10 max).  I was expecting it to really be be 5:1 of 1619:37
blammoanybody understand this well?19:37
siebjeedrawsmcgraw: my nova logs on the compute node are not finding anything about "unable to load driver"19:38
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drawsmcgrawsiebjee: Yeah I was afraid of that. I found nothing of the sort in your log you posted.19:38
drawsmcgrawWhat's the output of 'pip search pbr' ?19:38
siebjeedrawsmcgraw: or anything matching 'docker.*driver19:38
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siebjeeInstalled latest for pip search pbr19:39
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drawsmcgrawsiebjee: Okay, so it's already installed? So that's not it...19:40
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loth1Sam-I-Am: You around?20:49
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Sam-I-Amloth1: hi20:51
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loth1You still do work on OSAD?20:53
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cloudnullSam-I-Am: will always be an OSAD'er to me :)20:55
spotzhehehe20:55
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Sam-I-Amcloudnull: lol20:56
Sam-I-Amcloudnull: o hai20:56
lothWas wondering why on the ansible playbooks the neutron db changes use neutron-db-manage expand/contract for ML2 and the offical docs still use upgrade head for ml220:56
cloudnullo/20:56
Sam-I-Amloth: good question20:56
cloudnullloth: for what release?20:56
lothliberty, i think20:56
lothyeah20:57
cloudnullyup. we're doing expand/contract and falling abck to upgrade head20:57
cloudnullis that no longer correct?  -- Sam-I-Am?20:57
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lothhttp://docs.openstack.org/liberty/install-guide-rdo/neutron-controller-install.html#finalize-installation20:57
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cloudnullI think both work however expand/contract is the new perfered way. however maybe im wrong in this regard.20:59
lothI get this error when i try the expand/contract way: alembic.script.revision.RangeNotAncestorError: Revision (u'2c82e782d734',) is not an ancestor of revision expand@head20:59
lothworks fine the old way20:59
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cloudnullthis, I do not know. i defer to Sam-I-Am.21:00
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Sam-I-Amcloudnull: i defer to neutron folks, and i'm at the mid cycle, so let me ask21:06
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cloudnullcool21:06
cloudnulltyvm Sam-I-Am :_21:06
cloudnull:)21:06
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odyssey4meloth expand/contract is done first to allow projects/plugins instrumented to work with those options to do their thing first - we then fall back to upgrade head for projects/plugins that haven't yet moved to the new method21:15
odyssey4mecloudnull Sam-I-Am ^21:15
odyssey4meloth the expand/contract is to allow online/offline stuff to be seperated - upgrade head is offline only21:16
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odyssey4meso yeah, the old way will always work, but your api's will be offline for that time afaik21:16
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Sam-I-Amodyssey4me: thats sort of what i just got from HenryG21:17
Sam-I-Amso for a fresh install, upgrade head works21:17
lothWhat about a version upgrade eg liberty->mitaka ?21:18
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duckmanis it possible to use more than one compute driver? So KVM and Docker at the same time?21:22
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HenryGloth: 'upgrade head' while the neutron service is stopped (a.k.a. offline mode)21:25
lothWhat happens when thats ran while neuton-server is running? :)21:25
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HenryGI actually have no idea, but it probably won't be pretty. :)21:27
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lothDoes it still need to be stamped? I dont see that in OSAD21:30
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Sam-I-Amloth: not that i'm aware of21:31
HenryGloth: no21:31
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lothOk, ill stick to the old way since it seems to work better :) Thanks for the help!21:32
HenryGloth: reading the backscroll here in the channel, I see you tried expand/contract21:32
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lothYeah, i get "alembic.script.revision.RangeNotAncestorError: Revision (u'2c82e782d734',) is not an ancestor of revision expand@head"21:32
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HenryGloth: expand/contract is not supported yet. Maybe for Mitaka -> Newton, if the stars align.21:33
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cloudnullduckman: To my knowledge, no.  you have to choose one or the other.21:34
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cloudnullunless youre running the cloud using cells21:35
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duckmanthank you :)21:36
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lothHenryG: I do notice i get this message when i run the normal 'upgrade head': "No handlers could be found for logger "neutron.quota"" Is that expected?21:38
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n10ctis it possible to modify an Openstack Swift instance to ignore "DELETE"  commands from client side applications ?22:51
admin0use your own API kind of layer that is transparent and passes everything as-is to swift API, but ignore the DELETE from there ?22:52
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n10ctThats is my thought now, but if we could modify the swift instance and basicallu NOP that delete it would be crude but instant fix...22:53
notmynamealternatively, you could modify auth integration to 401 or 405 on DELETEs22:54
notmynameor you could make the one-line edit to the swift source code22:54
notmynamebut there's no way via config to disallow delete requests22:54
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n10ctwould you be able to narrow down the 'one line edit'  for me to the right file ?22:56
notmynamen10ct: deleting this line should do it22:57
notmynamehttps://github.com/openstack/swift/blob/master/swift/proxy/controllers/obj.py#L77722:57
notmynameie the "@public" decorator22:58
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notmynamethat's on the DELETE method for objects. there'd be one more each for accounts and containers too22:58
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n10ctyes, containers would be the other , accounts not needed,    thats awesome, thank you ver much,22:58
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notmynamen10ct: of course, that's all completely without warranty, guarantee, suitability, at your own risk, etc, etc, etc :-)22:59
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n10ctall good thank you :)   gives me a place to start !!23:00
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notmynamen10ct: why do you need something like that? what's your use case?23:01
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n10ctdata archival,  do not want users to delete data,  but unless we can control the client, we can't guarentee that...  and we cant guarentee the client, they may grab anything and then we loose that control of delete, so we need to do it at the backend, and preferably at the source, not with a filter23:02
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notmynamen10ct: interesting. I've had several customers (at swiftstack, my employer) ask for that kind of thing23:10
notmynamen10ct: it's a tricky question on how to do it right23:10
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n10ct would be good to go offline and chat to you further!23:13
notmynamen10ct: sure. feel free to email me. john@swiftstack.com23:13
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n10ctwill do thanks :)23:14
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RichardRaseleyI have a test OpenStack Swift Liberty cluster up. I want to use TempAuth to just validate some basic scenarios before setting up a more robust testing environment. In the /etc/swift/proxy-server.conf file I've defined a user as follows: user_test_user = password .admin23:42
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notmynameok23:43
RichardRaseleyWhen I try a `swift -A http://swift-test.domain.local:8080/auth/v1.0 -U user -K password stat` I get a 401 unauthorized error. I suspect I might have something wrong in my client auth settings (perhaps not passing group?), but I am not sure.23:43
RichardRaseleynotmyname: Hey there!23:43
notmyname:-)23:44
notmynameah, you need to have '-U "test:user"'23:44
RichardRaseleyAh, let me test.23:44
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RichardRaseleynotmyname: I now see `Account HEAD failed: http://swift-test.domain.local:8080/v1/AUTH_test 503 Service Unavailable` Different error at least. =]23:45
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notmyname503, so check the account server logs and proxy logs23:46
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RichardRaseleyAlso, quick question. I don't actually have physical or virtual drives allocated on my storage nodes, but just directories I carved out of the root disk. Is that a problem in a test environment?23:46
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notmynameswift-recon --validate-servers should help show some simple misconfiguration problems23:47
notmynamein that case you'd need to have mount_check = false23:47
RichardRaseleyI only have one log file on all my nodes, /var/log/swift/swift.log23:47
RichardRaseleyOK23:47
notmynameone log file is fine23:47
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notmynamegrep for the transaction id returned with the 503 (use --debug on the cli)23:48
RichardRaseleySure thing. Thanks. Here are my validate results: http://paste.openstack.org/show/488293/ Something to dig in there obviously23:48
notmynameah-ha23:49
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notmynameI'll bet you set up the rings all with the same port23:49
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RichardRaseleyThat could be it.23:50
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RichardRaseleyI will get those rebuilt and bounce the services, and make sure that the mount_check is set to false across the board.23:50
RichardRaseleyThank you.23:50
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notmynamesure23:50
notmynameI'm about to step away, but you'll be able to find other in #openstack-swift who can help with that kind of stuff23:51
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RichardRaseleynotmyname: Contrats on your expansion, BTW.23:51
RichardRaseleySure thing, TTYL23:51
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