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| berserk | With KILO, I am trying to add mutli domain support. Really what I am trying to do is use the local SQL DB for openstack and ldap for user access. I dont have the ability to manage the ldap to create the openstack service accounts and what not. I have horizon using v3 API so that it asks for a domain as well as shows the domain section in the portal. My issue is with keystone. When ever I set domain_speci | 00:38 |
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| metsuke | the datacenter I'm trying to deploy openstack in has close to 2,000 1U servers and 60 ToR switches that don't have BGP. Are there any recommendations for scaling without too much broadcast traffic and storms? We were looking at Calico, but it requires BGP on the switches | 01:57 |
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| haukebruno | metsuke, what about using cells to seperate everything? | 02:00 |
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| metsuke | haukebruno: I will look into this | 02:01 |
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| haukebruno | metsuke, we plan to build a new platform using ~700 compute nodes. it is the first time we create a env with that many compute nodes so I don't have experiences here. but for now we plan to use openstack cells to spread everything (including broadcast domains and stuff) | 02:01 |
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| metsuke | we were reading an article and there were many potential bottlenecks, one of which was network broadcast at ~300 nodes. The solution for them was cutting out neutron | 02:02 |
| ptx0 | metsuke: you IRC as root? :) | 02:03 |
| metsuke | ptx0 on a box I spun up for irc, yea =) | 02:03 |
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| haukebruno | metsuke, cutting out neutron means to use another l3 solution? or scaling neutron | 02:03 |
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| metsuke | haukebruno: they used just Nova networking | 02:08 |
| metsuke | heres the article: http://superuser.openstack.org/articles/how-we-scaled-openstack-to-launch-168-000-cloud-instances | 02:09 |
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| haukebruno | ah yes, that article I also read and took some good ideas from | 02:10 |
| haukebruno | metsuke, yes nova networking would be good but aren't you losing some flexibility and nice features neutron have? | 02:10 |
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| haukebruno | I am also pretty curious to hear the story of switching from nova network to neutron by cern | 02:11 |
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| metsuke | haukebruno: we've never had a working prod openstack, so I dont really know what we'd be missing from neutron | 02:11 |
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| haukebruno | metsuke, may I ask you for how long you tested everything to make the decision or got a good feeling to start going prod with about 2k nodes? | 02:12 |
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| metsuke | haukebruno: my colleagues and I inherited the poorly implemented datacenter from the previous IT people, who are now gone | 02:14 |
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| metsuke | we'd definitely just buy some more beefy servers if we could go back in time | 02:14 |
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| haukebruno | metsuke, doesn't sound that nice but hey, now you are able to build everything as YOU want ;-) | 02:15 |
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| metsuke | are cells still experimental? | 02:19 |
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| haukebruno | metsuke, I don't know but a lot of people using it right now | 02:27 |
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| haukebruno | but since cells come in grizzly I guess they aren't that much experimental ;) | 02:28 |
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| ptx0_ | haukebruno: hopefully freenode is not running on it :) | 02:29 |
| haukebruno | ptx0_, lol | 02:30 |
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| ptx0 | haukebruno: i have a project like MAAS that i'd love to do those scalability tests on | 02:31 |
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| ptx0 | haukebruno: there's just two components and the storage/compute node agent, which makes the networking and messaging much simpler, though you can't do as many fancy things yet | 02:32 |
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| haukebruno | ptx0, is it an open project I could have a look on? | 02:33 |
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| ptx0 | haukebruno: see PM, i didn't want to spam anyone :P | 02:34 |
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| metsuke | hmm, does using cells handle ceph storage traffic as well? | 02:36 |
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| haukebruno | metsuke, not sure, but in general you could seperate one ceph cluster into different l3 networks (needing some good routers in between depending on the clustersize) | 02:37 |
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| metsuke | we were originally planning on placing compute And storage on every node, having a giant repository for both, so maybe that'll do the trick | 02:39 |
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| haukebruno | we had this idea too 1 year ago but for us it sounds to complicated and to complex. so for now we have our openstack compute nodes and besides there will be the ceph nodes | 02:41 |
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| ptx0 | ceph is not so great for VMs, I hear | 02:48 |
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| ptx0 | i'd love some numbers on it though | 02:48 |
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| haukebruno | we ran our first platform using ceph for booting instances and also for glance images, it did is job well but the environment was pretty small (about 10 compute nodes, 3 OSD servers and everything on havana + dumpling) | 02:49 |
| haukebruno | but generally I love ceph for being that distributed and scalable | 02:50 |
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| metsuke | yea, we need replication, so ceph looks to be the thing we want. We are hoping to use lxd containers | 03:05 |
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| metsuke | haukebruno: also we might be ditching fuel for maas + juju since lxd might be the solution to our efficiency issues | 03:08 |
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| socomm | Is there an official devstack channel? | 03:11 |
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| socomm | #devstack doesn't seem to exist. | 03:11 |
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| haukebruno | metsuke, I also wanted to give maas + juju a try but some folks around me aren't happy with that canonical 'vendor lock-in' | 03:12 |
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| metsuke | haukebruno: yea, we didn't start with it, but juju makes application deployment seem really really easy | 03:13 |
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| haukebruno | metsuke, for that case we have murano on our lab-list | 03:13 |
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| metsuke | haukebruno: we looked at murano, and it does some features really really well, and better than any other, but some other features just seemed really bad. How complex is it to make an app and relate it to others? Like in Juju, you just tell it to relate two services and it is done. | 03:14 |
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| metsuke | haukebruno: do you mean whether you can spin up images of other types or which OS you can install juju on? | 04:29 |
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| haukebruno | metsuke, the former | 04:36 |
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| cooldharma06 | i enabled vpn in my training guide | 06:12 |
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| cooldharma06 | but facing this error -> http://pastebin.com/9MDeSCtA | 06:13 |
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| cooldharma06 | i checked the db vpnservices its " empty set " | 06:14 |
| haukebruno | cooldharma06, looks like your database scheme is behind the current version or doesn't including the preparation for vpnaaas | 06:14 |
| cooldharma06 | any suugestions? | 06:16 |
| cooldharma06 | haukebruno.. ^^ | 06:16 |
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| haukebruno | cooldharma06, I use ubuntu and never had some trouble with the database schemas (exept of layer8 installing fails) so poorly not | 06:19 |
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| cooldharma06 | haukebruno sorry i am using ubuntu only ( created by training guides - script). anyway thanks buddy. i ll check in google | 06:21 |
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| haukebruno | cooldharma06, do you use ubuntu + the upstream repositories? I never had such a problem while integration vpnaas or lbaas e.g. | 06:21 |
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| cooldharma06 | i am using ubuntu and its packages. :) | 06:22 |
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| haukebruno | well, strange. | 06:23 |
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| cooldharma06 | yeah i ll check and ping if i got solution.. | 06:24 |
| haukebruno | cooldharma06, there is a command snippet for neutron-db-manage around, but I couldn't say in any way wether that will do or break something (: https://github.com/openstack/fuel-plugin-neutron-vpnaas/blob/master/deployment_scripts/puppet/modules/vpnaas/manifests/common.pp | 06:24 |
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| cooldharma06 | thanks haukebruno i ll try that command; this is testing setup only. :) | 06:27 |
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| haukebruno | well cooldharma06, that's why I run all openstack service inside VMs. snapshots ftw here \o/ | 06:31 |
| cooldharma06 | for production..?? :-p | 06:32 |
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| haukebruno | yes of course | 06:35 |
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| haukebruno | cooldharma06, for us it is much more easy to scale things out using VMs instead of bare metal. currently our standard platforms use about 20 VMs providing the different openstack services | 06:36 |
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| cooldharma06 | can i know ur organization name.? | 06:39 |
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| haukebruno | cooldharma06, just a small german cloud startup, I guess nobody will know us :p | 06:43 |
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| cooldharma06 | haukebruno great and all the best.. :) but i google i ll get urs..:) | 06:44 |
| cooldharma06 | *if | 06:44 |
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| haukebruno | cooldharma06, yep, of course. ;) | 06:45 |
| cooldharma06 | ok dude i ll check that thing.. :) | 06:45 |
| haukebruno | maybe I have to add that we just run about 60 compute nodes in our current plattforms. no idea wether the VM concept fits the next new platforms w/ about 700 kvms | 06:46 |
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| dotpot | Hello there, I have custom cartrige with newest mongodb installed, how to make it scale ? | 09:01 |
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| ntt | Hi, I'm using the icehouse release with neutron and gre. I have a problem when I try to connect via ssh to a VM that resides on a centos7 node. SSH hangs with message "SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT". This problem happens only if the vm resides on the centos7 compute nodes. On centos 6 nodes I'm able to connect via ssh. Someone can help me please? | 09:11 |
| ntt | If I set the MTU of my ssh client to 1300, I can connect to the vm without problems, so I think the problem is related to the MTU | 09:12 |
| ntt | But why I can connect to other vms on centos6 nodes? | 09:12 |
| ntt | with MTU=1500 | 09:13 |
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| haukebruno | ntt, because GRE tunneling adds a bit of overhead you need to set down the instance MTU also a bit. I don't know wether it is described in the icehouse docs, but in the newer ones it is | 09:58 |
| haukebruno | ntt, see http://docs.openstack.org/kilo/install-guide/install/yum/content/neutron-network-node.html the section 'To configure the DHCP agent' | 09:58 |
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| ntt | haukebruno: The alternative could be to enable jumbo frames on the data network and on the network and compute nodes? | 10:09 |
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| haukebruno | ntt, I guess yes | 10:12 |
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| ntt | I could do this without problems. And I think it is better than set the MTU=14XX inside vms | 10:13 |
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| ntt | However my case is related to centos7 compute node because on centos6 all works well. Traffic stops inside the compute node on the br-tun or br-int bridge. I'm having problem with tcpdump and openvswitch and I cannot be more precise. | 10:15 |
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| AndChat457281 | Test | 12:33 |
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| haukebruno | AndChat457281, test passed? | 12:34 |
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| AndChat457281 | Yes :)) | 12:35 |
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| AndChat457281 | I have a question about integration of powervm and x86 kvm hypervisor in one management | 12:36 |
| AndChat457281 | In nova support list there is no powervm driver | 12:36 |
| AndChat457281 | But powervm has own openstack distribition | 12:37 |
| AndChat457281 | Does it mean that it possible seamlesly integrate both openstacks? | 12:37 |
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| thorst | AndChat457281: I heard you were asking about the PowerVM driver? | 13:47 |
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| thorst | The PowerVM driver is currently an out of tree driver that we're working on. It can (and has) worked within a single cloud with both KVM and PowerVM compute nodes. Our goal is to get it to a point that it can be put 'in-tree' in nova. | 13:49 |
| thorst | Feel free to hop in #openstack-powervm to ask questions! | 13:49 |
| AndChat457281 | thorst: thank you very much! | 13:49 |
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| thorst | AndChat457281: glad to help! | 13:49 |
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| aaronmehar | Hey.. x-post with #heat... I have a template that creates a BFV instance, is it possible to turn this into a resource group.. not had much luck finding out online. | 13:58 |
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| Guest97224 | hello, I am just following the official liberty install guide and I've got stuck with networking configuration | 14:26 |
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| wigwam | hello, I am just following the official liberty install guide and I've got stuck with networking configuration | 14:28 |
| wigwam | after I've set the public provider network, the private network and a router, I cannot ping the external router address. | 14:28 |
| wigwam | additionally, I can't see any interface in my system with this address configured. I am using linuxbridge agent | 14:28 |
| wigwam | any ideas please? | 14:28 |
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| twm2016 | Hey I got a bash scripting question! For this script, I want to replace this line https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/blob/master/exercises/euca.sh#L96 with this http://paste.openstack.org/show/489158/ Does that seem appropriate? | 14:51 |
| twm2016 | note: "set -o errexit" is being used globally | 14:51 |
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| twm2016 | if I want to work on a patch in a bug I previously worked on which of the following to I click on under download: checkout, cherrypick, format patch, or pull? | 15:01 |
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| mooseh | hi can someone give me a little help with devstack neutron and lbaas | 15:19 |
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| haukebruno | mooseh, what problem are you facing? I didn't use devstack but could maybe help with neutron + lbaas | 15:33 |
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| drawsmcgraw | Here's interesting..... I have an instance that can reach/ping/interact with the outside world. But nothing on the outside world can reach this instance. No configs have changed recently... | 15:34 |
| drawsmcgraw | Is this basically another "Find out where the packets are getting dropped" puzzle? | 15:34 |
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| haukebruno | drawsmcgraw, could be ;) | 15:43 |
| haukebruno | drawsmcgraw, maybe a missing security group? | 15:43 |
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| drawsmcgraw | *sigh*... Do y'all have recommended or favorite tools for this type of triage? I feel handicapped in this particular area because I struggle to identify the ovs switches and linux bridges that related to the troubled instance. | 15:44 |
| drawsmcgraw | haukebruno: It has been in the past, but this is a 'sandbox' type setup. All ports are open both ways. | 15:44 |
| drawsmcgraw | At least they *should* be | 15:44 |
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| haukebruno | drawsmcgraw, then the best would be to start from one direction. either from bottom to top or vice versa | 15:45 |
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| drawsmcgraw | hrm..... this *is* a new tenant.... And it seems Neutron made yet another security group for it, named 'default | 15:46 |
| drawsmcgraw | haukebruno: I think your hunch on security groups may be right.... let me investigate | 15:46 |
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| haukebruno | drawsmcgraw, on every new project/tenant you will see just the default secgroup + default rules. | 15:46 |
| drawsmcgraw | bugger.... I keep forgetting about that. And with my admin account, I'm seeing *all* the security groups when I say neutron-securitygroup-list | 15:47 |
| haukebruno | plus if you didn't modify the default rules, almost every ingress traffic is blocked (at least in an ubuntu setup) | 15:48 |
| drawsmcgraw | I'm nearly certain this is the case | 15:48 |
| drawsmcgraw | haukebruno: Is there a way to see just the secgroup for a given tenant? I just have my admin credentials sourced :/ | 15:48 |
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| drawsmcgraw | Else, I'll just check each one (there aren't that many to check) | 15:49 |
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| haukebruno | drawsmcgraw, I guess something like --tenant-id or --tenant as an option of neutron cli | 15:50 |
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| drawsmcgraw | Yeah, wasn't seeing anything like that in the help output but I may have missed it | 15:50 |
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| drawsmcgraw | Just realized I still have Horizon :) I think this is the issue... | 15:53 |
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| drawsmcgraw | Sure enough... Oh man, I owe this poor guy an apology. I had been blaming the issues on our capacity problems. Embarrassed that I forgot to edit the default security group rules. | 15:57 |
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| drawsmcgraw | Thanks haukebruno! Sometimes it really is the simplest answer. | 15:57 |
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| haukebruno | drawsmcgraw, same for me. can't count the secgroup fails ;) | 15:59 |
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| drawsmcgraw | We run a flat network so I keep saying "No, the network is really simple, so it can't be anything like that :P". I keep forgetting about those, even in a flat network. | 15:59 |
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| haukebruno | drawsmcgraw, I didn't run flat network, so maybe this is a stupid question but: are you able to seperate tenant traffic? or is your cloud more like a public one without private networks per tenant? | 16:06 |
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| drawsmcgraw | We don't separate tenant traffic - unsure if we could. | 16:07 |
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| drawsmcgraw | It's a sandbox environment. People use it to create test machines, then delete them after not too long. | 16:07 |
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| drawsmcgraw | And yeah, there's no private networks per tenant. The IP that Neutron hands out is a valid, routable IP for our data center. | 16:08 |
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| domenkozar | anyone knows why is portcontext.original None on port update? | 18:02 |
| domenkozar | I'm trying to get details from it | 18:02 |
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| andrew_ | hi does anyone know when is the last date i need to contribute to get the free pass to the austin summit? | 18:42 |
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| nsasherr | Is there any documentation which describes what each of the entries in nova's policy.json file are for? Most of them are pretty self-explanitory, but some of them I'm not so sure about. | 18:46 |
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| jmlowe | what kind of messages would be in this queue q-agent-notifier-port-update_fanout_8ae6cbac4f44401eb539ee4f982e50e4 ? | 19:01 |
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