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| jair | hello I see many people joining but no one chat? | 00:44 |
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| jair | I have a quick comment, I did installed for first time openstack in an Ubuntu 14.04 64bit vm | 00:45 |
| jair | If I need to make suggestions about the installation process etc.. I should ask in #openstack-dev? | 00:47 |
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| cooldharma06 | jair gm | 04:46 |
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| jair | cooldharma06: hello there | 05:06 |
| cooldharma06 | yes:) | 05:07 |
| jair | cooldharma06: I am in Japan so it our time zone is different | 05:07 |
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| cooldharma06 | yes and np | 05:07 |
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| cooldharma06 | jair is ur devstack running?? | 05:09 |
| jair | cooldharma06: but I would love to have some comments with you based on the installation of openstack | 05:09 |
| cooldharma06 | jair: sure and wat happened | 05:09 |
| jair | cooldharma06: Yes I was able to install it and have it running. I have it in a virtual machine linux ubuntu 14.04 64bit LTS | 05:09 |
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| jair | first: in the documentation there is a confusing statement that say we need to downlooad the devstack code from git, but after that there is instructions about creating the user "stack", but when the "devstack" directory installed as root instead of "stack" user when running the stack.sh installer perhaps we will not experience the error about permitions | 05:12 |
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| jair | cooldharma06: http://paste.debian.net/412622/ | 05:14 |
| jair | cooldharma06: I was having the error I pasted just now: http://paste.debian.net/412622/ and I solved it after changing the ownership of the directory "/opt/devstack" recursively to stack:stack user and group | 05:15 |
| jair | cooldharma06: and I don't think that is right to do /opt is a directory that should be own by root | 05:16 |
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| jair | cooldharma06: anyway after that the other thing that is not clear is that the sample file local.conf has some password parameters already... it should be clarified that when we are doing a new installation we should erase the passwords that come with the sample file and leave it black so we get prompt it for all the passwords | 05:18 |
| cooldharma06 | jair one min i am seeing and also give some time | 05:19 |
| jair | cooldharma06: I also believe there should be a way to make the password look like this ****** while we type it and also at the end of the stack.sh installation, it shows clearly your password clear text where someone over my shoulder will be able to see it :( | 05:19 |
| jair | cooldharma06: no worries | 05:19 |
| jair | :) | 05:19 |
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| jair | cooldharma06: I am actually thinking about writting a feedback emails about this experience | 05:20 |
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| cooldharma06 | jair one more thing i want to suggest devstack is for developer to check or add features to the components. | 05:20 |
| jair | cooldharma06: the networking settitngs are not explained very well either... the only people that will be ble to install openstack devstack successfully will be the ones with really good understanding on linux architecture and permissions, also networking skills and debuggin | 05:21 |
| cooldharma06 | jair and also in openstack you can comment or suggest anything you wants. if it acceptable they or you can modify it | 05:21 |
| jair | debugging | 05:21 |
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| jair | cooldharma06: very cool | 05:22 |
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| haukebruno | morning jair and cooldharma06 \o/ | 05:22 |
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| cooldharma06 | gm haukebruno :) | 05:22 |
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| jair | cooldharma06: it was definitely an interesting experience and I will go through the installation again from scratch and document what I think can improve it at least for newbies | 05:23 |
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| jair | haukebruno: morning ^^ | 05:24 |
| cooldharma06 | great and all the best jair | 05:24 |
| jair | cooldharma06: but definitely will see how can I contribute, I am still just learning and understanding the tools and functionality | 05:24 |
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| jair | during the installation I noticed that some api and programs like cinder, nova, neutron were getting installed | 05:25 |
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| cooldharma06 | jair i am also like you only exploring things, welcome and join the club.. :) | 05:25 |
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| jair | at the end of the install I noticed that horizon was available over port 5000 and dashboard | 05:26 |
| jair | cooldharma06: Thank you very much | 05:26 |
| jair | cooldharma06: so you say the best place to share this feedback is the ask.openstack.org | 05:26 |
| jair | I noticed some people trying to answer there pretty common questions | 05:27 |
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| jair | I also noticed that when I pointed my browswer to the hostname of my openstack host por :5000 it did open with showing some parameters and code instead of a user interface tool | 05:28 |
| cooldharma06 | jair cinder nova neutron glance are basic components for openstack if u see the initial logs u will know the components | 05:29 |
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| cooldharma06 | at the end of successful installation u ll get the ip username password where ur devstack configured and running.:) | 05:30 |
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| jair | cooldharma06: Yes I have that file saved and also that is one of the feedbacks I have, it should not show the password cleartext like that | 05:33 |
| jair | ^^ | 05:33 |
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| jair | cooldharma06: I am booting my environment now | 05:35 |
| jair | haukebruno: have you installed the devstack as well? | 05:35 |
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| haukebruno | jair, no. never did :p | 05:37 |
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| haukebruno | jair, I/we use the packages provided by ubuntu cloud archive | 05:37 |
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| jair | cooldharma06: haukebruno I see | 05:38 |
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| jair | this is what I get when I direct my browser to: keystone | 05:39 |
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| jair | http://paste.debian.net/412635 | 05:39 |
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| jair | so I am not sure about the use of keystone | 05:39 |
| jair | I need to investigate | 05:39 |
| jair | horizon works nicely | 05:39 |
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| cooldharma06 | jair one thing i want to tell first read about the components and the architecture of openstack then do your play | 05:48 |
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| jair | cooldharma06: Yep definitely | 05:49 |
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| cooldharma06 | ok dude all the best :) | 05:49 |
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| jair | cooldharma06: I am looking at horizon now, I will create a youtube video of the installation | 05:49 |
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| cooldharma06 | jair :) | 05:51 |
| jair | cooldharma06: for example I shutdown the server from the host first when moving the machine from work to my home and now I am getting an (error: unable to retrieve hypervisor information) | 05:51 |
| jair | I am assuming it is because the database is not running? | 05:51 |
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| jair | cooldharma06: or perhaps some other service that needs to be running? | 05:52 |
| cooldharma06 | jair can u tell how and where your are installing your devstack clearly | 05:52 |
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| jair | I am doing exactly this: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/devstack/guides/single-machine.html | 05:54 |
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| jair | cooldharma06: but the only difference is that I am using a virtual box image | 05:54 |
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| cooldharma06 | jair i assume you are using virtualbox vm to install your devstack | 05:55 |
| jair | cooldharma06: that is correct | 05:56 |
| jair | cooldharma06: I don't see cinder, nova, neutron etc... running in top | 05:56 |
| cooldharma06 | jair if its you have to import your machine which you installed devstack | 05:56 |
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| cooldharma06 | jair we will go one by one so only i can tell some suggestions | 05:57 |
| jair | cooldharma06: but after I installed it was working fine | 05:57 |
| jair | cooldharma06: sure | 05:57 |
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| jair | cooldharma06: I can see that apache2 is running fine because I can log in to horizon, I see that mysqld is also running | 05:58 |
| cooldharma06 | jair you want to move the vm from your work to home export the vm File-> export then take copy the ova file to your home system. | 05:59 |
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| jair | cooldharma06: no no, actually that is not required | 06:00 |
| jair | I have the virtual box and everything in a laptop so i can move it anytime | 06:00 |
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| jair | cooldharma06: where I am having issues now is with the services... there should be a command that starts all the services for openstack? | 06:01 |
| jair | cooldharma06: I can see that apache2, mysql, are running only | 06:01 |
| jair | cooldharma06: is there a command that starts all the services do you know? | 06:01 |
| cooldharma06 | ./rejoin-stack.sh check that function | 06:02 |
| cooldharma06 | *run the script | 06:02 |
| jair | ok | 06:02 |
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| jair | cooldharma06: that worked | 06:04 |
| jair | cooldharma06: everything works fine again ^^ | 06:04 |
| cooldharma06 | jair.. :) | 06:05 |
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| jair | cooldharma06: nice nice so I can see that in instances I have zero 0 by default, and in flavors there are a numbers of m1.nano, m1.micro etc... 7 total | 06:06 |
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| jair | cooldharma06: I am assuming this are no in my system but they are available as templates? | 06:06 |
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| jair | well I will go get some reading about it | 06:09 |
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| cooldharma06 | jair dont mistake me if have any queries i ll tell some suggestions. for basic things you read the documentation | 06:09 |
| jair | I will be back in a while | 06:09 |
| cooldharma06 | jair .. :) | 06:09 |
| jair | ahh yes yes | 06:09 |
| jair | no worries looks very interesting I will go get some reading | 06:10 |
| jair | and watch some demos as well before asking questions | 06:10 |
| jair | but looks interesting | 06:10 |
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| jair | cooldharma06: http://tinypic.com/r/14xik2w/9 | 06:15 |
| jair | check my current "Hypervisors" section | 06:15 |
| jair | ;) | 06:15 |
| jair | I will be right back need to read | 06:16 |
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| paragintel | close | 07:00 |
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| cooldharma06 | for openstack configuration management which good one. got confised with lof of tools | 07:02 |
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| cooldharma06 | puppet chef ansible fuel tripleO | 07:03 |
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| cooldharma06 | any suggestions?? | 07:03 |
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| adun153 | cooldharma06: Ansible seems to be mentioned a lot to me. I'm still deploying manually, though, but if I would start learning one of them, I think I'll try that first. | 07:08 |
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| cooldharma06 | thanks adun153 for your info :) | 07:09 |
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| mariusB | hi all, I have a little problem and I home somebody will help me. I have one controller and 6 node. Every nodes has a local HDD of 512 GB and one storage attached of 2TB. And my question is why in openstack console I see only 512GB? | 07:52 |
| mariusB | any hint are good | 07:53 |
| mariusB | :) | 07:53 |
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| mariusB_1 | hi all, I have a little problem and I hope that somebody will help me. I have one controller and 6 nodes. Every nodes has a local HDD of 512 GB and one storage attached of 2TB. And my question is why in openstack console I see only 512GB? | 07:56 |
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| mariusB_1 | where I must to specify that I want to use also the 2TB(this space is mount) | 08:00 |
| haukebruno | mariusB_1, in general you will see the space regarding the filesystem where /var/lib/nova/instances (for ubuntu, dunno wether the path for other distros is) is | 08:01 |
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| mariusB_1 | hmm | 08:02 |
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| adun153 | mariusB_1 so in your case, you would probably want to mount the 2TB storage as /var/lib/nova/instances | 08:03 |
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| mariusB_1 | so in not a good idee to mount to /mnt/data for example. | 08:04 |
| mariusB_1 | I must to mount in /var/lib/nova/instances | 08:04 |
| mariusB_1 | right? | 08:05 |
| mariusB_1 | to see 2TB available for each node | 08:05 |
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| adun153 | mariusB_, yes. | 08:07 |
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| mariusB_1 | thx v much, I will try and come back :) | 08:08 |
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| mariusB_1 | all the best marius | 08:08 |
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| haukebruno | mariusB_1, you also could change the instances_path parameter in nova.conf, | 08:10 |
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| KennethHeo | Hello, I got a problem with Glance. When I executed glance related command, the log file said to me like "Authorization filed for token". Where did I start to find some evidence of the error? | 08:10 |
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| haukebruno | KennethHeo, at first in your keystone logs. you could also try to run your command again using the --debug and --verbose parameter | 08:11 |
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| KennethHeo | haukebruno, thx I'll try. | 08:12 |
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| KennethHeo | According to debug log, Glance client try to send a request using curl and then show me the error that "401, Invalid OpenStack Identity credentials" and when I restart keystone service that gave me a warning msg that was " keystone via eventlet is deprecated as of kilo in favor of running in a WSGI server ..." IDK, how can I tracking the error. | 08:47 |
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| cooldharma06 | KennethHeo check your login creadentials | 08:51 |
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| KennethHeo | cooldharma06, I think, it was ok. | 08:52 |
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| KennethHeo | cooldharma06, could you let me know where the check points? | 08:53 |
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| cooldharma06 | KennethHeo can u run some other commands like nova list or also u can downlaod the credentails from the portal | 08:53 |
| cooldharma06 | i.e., openrc file | 08:53 |
| KennethHeo | cooldharma06, actually now , I am in install level of cotroller node. | 08:54 |
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| cooldharma06 | KennethHeo sorry what u mean now only u r installing controller and its components.? | 08:55 |
| KennethHeo | cooldharma06, yes right. | 08:56 |
| cooldharma06 | can u share me the link or guide u r following? | 08:56 |
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| KennethHeo | cooldharma06, Im just installed mysql, rabbitmq and keystone, now glace. | 08:56 |
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| KennethHeo | cooldharma06, unfortunately it is an ebook that written in Korean. | 08:57 |
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| cooldharma06 | check this out http://docs.openstack.org/liberty/install-guide-ubuntu/ | 08:57 |
| KennethHeo | cooldharma06, thx I'll check this out from scratch | 08:58 |
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| cooldharma06 | yw KennethHeo and all the best.. :) | 08:58 |
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| KennethHeo | cooldharma06, yeah. thx (cry) | 08:59 |
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| cooldharma06 | :-D | 09:02 |
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| linex__ | I am running an oVirt environment. Is Openstack something similar as in vMware Esx is something similar to oVirt ? | 09:39 |
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| tty00 | linex__: openstack is more like amazon ec2 rather than esx/ovirt | 09:45 |
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| linex__ | tty00: would you say it is similar and more ? | 10:15 |
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| linex__ | in a way | 10:15 |
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| tty00 | depends on what your definition of "and more" is, just try it out and see if it's for you | 10:18 |
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| tty00 | i think you have a couple of all-in-one dists that is made for ppl to test openstack | 10:19 |
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| side_control | linex__: its very different, i run both in my homnelab, i actually prefer openstack to ovirt for my test systems where i need to spin up virtual networks, domains and subdomains, it doesnt just do vlan, but supports gre, vlans, vxlan and flat networks, so you can setup the AWS equivalent of a VPC for users | 10:23 |
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| side_control | so that way i dont actually burn ip space and have to worry or manage them | 10:23 |
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| side_control | linex__: though you can pxe boot, openstack runs a lot better with pre-built cloud-init images, so that way of provisioning systems should change | 10:24 |
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| linex__ | ok, thanks guys. I guess its best I try it for my self. | 10:26 |
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| linex__ | would be nice if I can try it as a vm ... haha | 10:27 |
| side_control | linex__: yup, it allows users to provision their owns macxhines and networks which is awesome | 10:27 |
| side_control | linex__: and quotas and usage reporting is so much better | 10:27 |
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| side_control | instead of jasper doing calculations against the DB | 10:28 |
| linex__ | yes, all-in-one dists would be nice for a test | 10:28 |
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| linex__ | I was just getting comfortable with oVirt and then this .. I am just curious | 10:29 |
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| side_control | linex__: i like ovirt too, since i just dont have to mess with it ;) its my only HA setup in my lab, so all the important stuff runs on it | 10:31 |
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| tty00 | i noticed ovirt can use openstack neutron as external network provider, that can be awesome | 10:46 |
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| tty00 | havn't had the time to play with OSN yet | 10:46 |
| tty00 | <-- also running ovirt and openstack | 10:46 |
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| side_control | tty00: yup, i want to test it but havent had time to, but i did hook ovirt into my openstack glance instance so i boot from my openstack images ;) | 10:50 |
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| tty00 | nice | 10:50 |
| side_control | and get errata info from satellite so thats pretty cool too | 10:50 |
| tty00 | yepp | 10:51 |
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| side_control | tty00: you running/orchestrating docker at all? | 10:51 |
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| tty00 | i'm running some docker instances but in another environment without any good mgmt tool yet, but i will handle that when i got some spare time over | 10:54 |
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| side_control | tty00: nod, still trying to figure out what the best way is, i havent had much time to tinker yet either | 10:58 |
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| tty00 | tbh, i need the ovirt/openstack environment to be up and running so i can move my dockers to that environment and free the current one, i think i just start simple and handle them as-is | 11:02 |
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| side_control | tty00: there is a pretty easy plugin to load to launch docker containers in ovirt, which will search the registry and you need to convert it to a template that can be provisioned | 11:03 |
| side_control | load and launch | 11:03 |
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| tty00 | yes, i read something about it and thought: that might be cool, i'll have a look at it when the time comes to that :) | 11:05 |
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| ygl | hi all | 11:20 |
| ygl | how can I see my queries posted by me in openstack mailing list ? | 11:21 |
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| ygl | is there a concept of tenant vlans in openstack ? | 11:24 |
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| ygl | is there a concept of tenant vlans in openstack ? | 11:27 |
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| side_control | ygl: well a tenant network is a vlan, not sure if i really understand the question, so im going to say yes | 11:31 |
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| ygl | side_control: Is there such a thing as a tenant vlan network ? | 11:31 |
| side_control | ygl: umm.. sure, you can use an actual vlan for a tenant network, vxlan | 11:32 |
| ygl | side_control: can I as a non admin tenant user, create a vlan ? | 11:32 |
| side_control | ygl: yes | 11:33 |
| ygl | side_control: so in order to use a vlan do I have to use a provider network ? | 11:33 |
| side_control | ygl: no | 11:33 |
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| ygl | side_control: how can I create a tenant vlan ? | 11:33 |
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| side_control | ygl: you create a network that is not on your physical network | 11:34 |
| ygl | side_control: then how can I segment it into vlans ? | 11:34 |
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| side_control | ygl: you tag it with a vlan id | 11:35 |
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| ygl | side_control: how can I accomplish this ? | 11:35 |
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| jmccarthy | Hiya, gotta question about trying to boot from volume, am I in the right place ? :) | 11:36 |
| side_control | ygl: ummm.. read the docs? | 11:36 |
| ygl | side_control: i couldn't find such a scenario. All i find is the provider vlan but not tenant vlan . But the docs mention it in the type of tenant networks | 11:36 |
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| ygl | side_control: i am confused | 11:37 |
| side_control | jmccarthy: if its openstack relate,d yes, but you dont have to ask to ask, just ask | 11:37 |
| ygl | can anyone help me ? | 11:37 |
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| side_control | ygl: you need to calm down, its obvious you are confused, you shouldve started with that | 11:38 |
| ygl | side_control: ok | 11:38 |
| ygl | side_control: i have searched for days but couldn't find the scenario of a tenant vlan | 11:38 |
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| side_control | ygl: im going to ask some questions, because i think some terminology is messed up, dont interpreted as condecending or i'm just trying to make sure we are talking about the same thing | 11:39 |
| side_control | ygl: define vlan | 11:39 |
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| jmccarthy | Ok :) - I seem to have a situation where if I do boot from volume using horizon it fails, but using cli directly - it works - it seems this bit of the config differs: | 11:39 |
| jmccarthy | <target dev='vda' bus='virtio'/> | <target bus="xen" dev="xvda"/> | 11:39 |
| jmccarthy | It should be xvda (xen hypervisor) and it does do this correctly with the cli and I can boot from volume no problem. | 11:39 |
| jmccarthy | I can't see why it goes wrong when trying to do this via horizon ? | 11:39 |
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| ygl | side_control: concept of segregating a single broadcast domain | 11:39 |
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| jmccarthy | I have tried setting the disk_prefix, but this doesn't seem to help | 11:40 |
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| side_control | ygl: yes, it will do that, but more simply it stands for Virtual LAN | 11:41 |
| side_control | so a tenant network, since it runs on neutron and openvswitch is virtual | 11:41 |
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| ygl | side_control: i know that. u see what I am alluding to is the concept of a tenant network of type 'vlan' ? | 11:41 |
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| side_control | ygl: yes, that means vlan tagging | 11:42 |
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| ygl | side_control: i see there is a huge misconception prevailing here in the docs | 11:42 |
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| side_control | if you are referring to vxlan, gre, and flat networks when creating tenant or provider networks | 11:42 |
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| ygl | side_control: sorry to say this but it seems u r not getting my point | 11:43 |
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| side_control | ygl: nope im not, it doesnt make sense to me | 11:43 |
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| ygl | side_control: all I mean is this. Let me explain . Tell me how many types of tenant network are possible in openstack ? | 11:44 |
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| ygl | can anyone help me with my dilemma here please ? | 11:45 |
| side_control | ygl: as many as you want, probably caps out at the vlan tag id max but im not certain | 11:45 |
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| ygl | is anyone here who knows abt this scenario ? | 11:46 |
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| side_control | ygl: are you asking why you need a tenant vlan? | 11:47 |
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| ygl | side_control: nope . i am asking whether is it possible to create a vlan network by a non admin tenant user | 11:48 |
| ygl | side_control: i meana tenant vlan | 11:48 |
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| side_control | ygl: yes | 11:48 |
| ygl | side_control: how do I do that ? | 11:48 |
| side_control | im using vxlan in my setup, so anybody who has permission to, by quotas, can spin up any abritrary vlan id, network cidr and route to the internet through a proivider network | 11:49 |
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| ygl | side_control: haaa , there you are, u still need a provider network. right ? | 11:49 |
| side_control | ygl: of course you always need a provider network if you want access to the physical network | 11:50 |
| ygl | so it is possible to create a private vlan tenant network which does not match a physical network . right ? | 11:50 |
| side_control | ygl: yes | 11:51 |
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| side_control | provider in a way just means external | 11:51 |
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| ygl | side_control: got it | 11:51 |
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| side_control | ygl: this might help https://www.runlevelone.net/redmine/attachments/download/207/openstack_ad_working.png ... the 'sssd' network is my provider network, the three that are connected are tenant networks, but routes out to the provider, if i want them to be access from the outside i will assign an floating ip from the provider network (sssd) so it can be accessible, but normally they are not | 11:53 |
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| side_control | he's gone isnt he.. (excludes parts/joins from irc) | 11:54 |
| jmccarthy | He's gone | 11:55 |
| * side_control sighs | 11:55 | |
| * side_control 's mission to civilize the internet is failing | 11:55 | |
| side_control | ;) | 11:55 |
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| side_control | jmccarthy: i'd check the keystone/cinder logs to make sure you are using the same creds when the commands get issued | 11:57 |
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| jmccarthy | side_control: Ok I can poke around there - and that might drag in different config or cause different prefix ? | 11:58 |
| side_control | jmccarthy: i'm not sure, but iirc, there is two different api versions with cinder, and horizon could be using the wrong type | 11:58 |
| jmccarthy | side_control: Ok I'll dig further, yea there does seem to be some sort of difference there I not sure what - ok thanks ! | 11:59 |
| side_control | jmccarthy: everything is done by api calls, but the api changes, i know you can explicitely define which api to use in horizon so thats what made me think of it | 11:59 |
| jmccarthy | side_control: Has a good vibe that thinking - could be it alright ! | 12:00 |
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| maddagaska | Hi. Using the nova client v2 (in python), is there any way for me to find a server when I have the instance-id from its meta-data URL (the instance ID is in the form of i00042 or similar, while all the IDs I find in the client are GUIDs)? | 12:23 |
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| maddagaska | Sorry, format is actually i-000123ab | 12:24 |
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| haukebruno | maddagaska, do you mean 'nova show UUID'? | 12:25 |
| maddagaska | haukebruno: I'm actually accessing it (the API, not hte meta-data) by using a novaclient.Client in ipython. | 12:25 |
| maddagaska | The meta-data I'm curling off http://169.254.169.254 | 12:26 |
| haukebruno | maddagaska, my fault. you mean a nova client in python, not the python-novaclient :> | 12:26 |
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| maddagaska | haukebruno: Both are installed by the pip, so... whichever makes it clearer? | 12:26 |
| maddagaska | s/the pip/the pip install/ | 12:27 |
| maddagaska | But yes, this is within python, not calling the supplied CLI script. | 12:27 |
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| maddagaska | It seems like all of the IDs supplied in the meta- data are amazon-alike, and novaclient.Client doesn't (at first ... glance ...) appear to have translation capabilities. | 12:28 |
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| olivermller | "Unable to associate floating ip 'Floating IP' to fixed ip 'Instance IP' for instance 'instance ID'. Error: External network 'ID for public network' is not reachable from subnet 'ID for public subnet'." Anyone got a clue how to resolve it? The instances have full internet connections. | 12:32 |
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| * maddagaska figures that the MAC address'll have to be the unique identifier then | 12:36 | |
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| Razva | good afternoon | 12:43 |
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| pece | olivermller: maybe you need to create router? | 12:46 |
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| olivermller | pece: Would that be necessary for a public network, though? If I just want to add another IP to an already running instance with one public-facing IP, for example. | 12:50 |
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| haukebruno | olivermller, AFAIK it isn't possible to assign 2 floating IPs to 1 instance. but I could be wrong here, didn't test that for a while | 13:09 |
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| olivermller | haukebruno: That seems to be the case, to what I can tell. It works on private networks, but not to assign another address to an already publicly-facing instance. | 13:12 |
| olivermller | I wanted to know because the billing solution that my boss is dead-set on won't hide the option for associating a floating IP if the instance is already on a public net, so I know a customer is gonna ask about it sooner or later. | 13:13 |
| haukebruno | olivermller, I tried that some time ago, but don't remember wether it was on my icehouse or kilo platform | 13:13 |
| haukebruno | olivermller, just curious, what billing software do you use? we are also looking for one. | 13:14 |
| haukebruno | olivermller, maybe you need to file a bug to the software creator about that issue | 13:14 |
| olivermller | haukebruno: We're looking at integrating more aspects of our business (Web hosting, VPS services, backup, etc) under one platform, and we're planning on using a piece of software called HostBill. | 13:15 |
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| haukebruno | thanks olivermller | 13:16 |
| olivermller | haukebruno: They're not up to snuff with Liberty yet, but we're working with them on correcting some errors, so it should be coming in the next few weeks, they update it on a weekly basis. | 13:16 |
| haukebruno | sounds good, so maybe they are able to solve that duplicate IP stuff early | 13:16 |
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| olivermller | Hopefully. My experience so far has been less than stellar, but that's probably been because my boss has goals for the software that it wasn't made for, HostBill, that is. | 13:17 |
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| olivermller | Their support is pretty active if you can wave money at them. Otherwise they also occasionally read bug reports. | 13:18 |
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| pece | olivermller, there is HORIZON_CONFIG["simple_ip_management"] setting in dashboard, maybe this will change things. | 13:25 |
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| olivermller | pece: Thanks for the effort, but I think this is something I should just pick up with those who make my billing solution and have them change the way the control panel looks so customers don't try to put another IP onto their server unless they know what they | 13:31 |
| olivermller | they're doing* | 13:31 |
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| linex__ | Besides HostBill, what other alternatives there are out there ? | 14:19 |
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| Kus | Hi | 15:05 |
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| SynxSynx | Hey guys, I"m a home user (probably close to small business as far as infrastructure goes) and am curious about leveraging Openstack for my apps rather than running vm's Is there anyone that I can chat with that can offer general guidance? | 15:05 |
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| olivermller | How do you currently run your VMs, SynxSynx? | 15:06 |
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| SynxSynx | I've got a dell c6100 with 96gb of ram per node with 2x E5506 per node, 4 nodes each running esxi 5.5 | 15:07 |
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| SynxSynx | So 384gb total ram 8 E5506 | 15:08 |
| SynxSynx | Also on one node I have a fiberchannel nas that has a 12tb array | 15:08 |
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| SynxSynx | Each node has both a 128gb ssd and a 64gb sd card | 15:09 |
| olivermller | I'm currently getting an OpenStack install in place for a hosting solution in a more VMware-centric shop. Is this for a homelab, or business? | 15:09 |
| SynxSynx | Pretty much a home lab | 15:10 |
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| SynxSynx | I run a plex server for a group of friends and myself as well as a usenet indexer. | 15:11 |
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| olivermller | You could get an OpenStack cluster running for that, maybe have one node serve as the controller, the one with the 12TB array as storage, and then two compute nodes. Though making them all do compute is also possible. I don't really know what you stand to gain from it though, apart from ridding yourself of the VMware license fee. | 15:12 |
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| SynxSynx | What I'm looking for is a way to float my applications ontop of as many physical CPU's as possible | 15:13 |
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| SynxSynx | Does the controller need to be very powerful? | 15:14 |
| iggy | openstack doesn't magically spread stuff across hosts if that's what you're thinking | 15:14 |
| olivermller | The controller is probably one of the weakest nodes, in terms of requirements. | 15:15 |
| olivermller | It just needs to serve API endpoints and schedulers for the rest of the stack. | 15:15 |
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| SynxSynx | So a 8gb of ram dual processor dual core Pentium would work? | 15:15 |
| olivermller | Since you already have the baller setup, you could try and make a few VMs and a new network inside of your VMware setup and try to set something up to get the hang of it, and try out your ideas. | 15:16 |
| olivermller | I'm pretty sure it would. | 15:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | "work" does not mean "work well" | 15:16 |
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| SynxSynx | So then what's the advantage of running my application on openstack rather than run it on a guest? | 15:17 |
| SynxSynx | From what I understood I'd be able to farm the compute out to multiple nodes | 15:17 |
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| Sam-I-Am | openstack just runs vms | 15:18 |
| olivermller | ^ this. | 15:18 |
| SynxSynx | So am I looking more towards the docker relm? | 15:18 |
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| rozie | no | 15:18 |
| iggy | docker doesn't do that either | 15:18 |
| iggy | nothing does it well | 15:18 |
| rozie | you are rather looking for mosix | 15:18 |
| rozie | not sure if it's still alive | 15:18 |
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| iggy | or SSI (also probably dead at this point) | 15:19 |
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| olivermller | OpenStack will serve you the same purpose as ESXi does now, basically. | 15:19 |
| iggy | probably a bit closer to vcenter, but yeah | 15:19 |
| olivermller | MOSIX had a stable release 7 months ago, so that's still kicking. Yet. | 15:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | that brings back memories of 15 years ago | 15:20 |
| rozie | SynxSynx: it's rather no point in aggregating several physical machines into one | 15:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | when cluster computing was all the range | 15:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | rage | 15:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | also mpi | 15:20 |
| rozie | multi core, multi CPU box will be OK, probably | 15:20 |
| iggy | yeah, openssi is dead :( | 15:20 |
| rozie | if not, you want to rewrite your app | 15:21 |
| rozie | and if you rewrite the app, it's easier/more efficient to use separate nodes | 15:21 |
| SynxSynx | So what's the best way to utilize this node\blade type setup? | 15:22 |
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| iggy | run your app on one and use the others for bitcoin mining? | 15:23 |
| SynxSynx | lol | 15:23 |
| olivermller | BitCoin is so dead though. It's all about DogeCoin. | 15:23 |
| SynxSynx | ^ | 15:23 |
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| iggy | you're probably better off searching for aliens or cures for cancer though | 15:23 |
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| SynxSynx | So with openstack, would I be able to use the device that has the fiber-channel nas attached to it as storage for a guest VM, then have the compute on another node? | 15:24 |
| iggy | run your app one one, use the others for reselling VMs to recover the cost of the hardware/network | 15:25 |
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| olivermller | You could use OpenStack to provision the VMs, then add storage to that guest VM that is hosted on the fibre-channel NAS via the OpenStack project known as Cinder. | 15:27 |
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| rozie | SynxSynx: read about cinder | 15:27 |
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| SynxSynx | Okay. Thanks. | 15:28 |
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| clouddig | When using the keystone v3 REST API, I request "https://$identityhost/v3/projects" and get a valid response, but when I request "https://$identityhost/v3/domains" I get 403 'You are not authorized to perform the requested action: identity:list_domains' | 16:46 |
| clouddig | Any idea why I would be able to list projects but not domains? | 16:47 |
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| clouddig | In order to list domains does the token need to be scoped? | 16:56 |
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| kapil | hi, i enabled compute_monitors=ComputeDriverCPUMonitor, and restarted nova-compute on a compute node but I am not seeing any metrics being reported to ceilometer, any fixes ? | 17:53 |
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| TSCHAKWin | I heard from a colleague that TripleO had all but been abandoned... This seems incredulous to me, is it true ??? | 19:27 |
| LiftedKilt | TSCHAKWin: probably still not as abandoned as this channel apparently haha | 19:29 |
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| iggy | I suspect most companies already have provisioning handled by the time they get around to deploying openstack | 19:33 |
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| clouddig | TSCHAKWin: Triple O didn't work out and the main sponsor (HP) went in a different direction, so it probably is dead. | 20:18 |
| clouddig | LiftedKilt: good point about this channel being dead :( | 20:18 |
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| zeroshft | So RDO manager and TripleO are both dead? | 20:26 |
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| kindjal | Does anyone have any tips of flushing/resetting openvswitch flows? | 20:28 |
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| kindjal | Trying to get compute nodes to come back onto networks at boot time, there seem to be race conditions in init scripts (in ubuntu)... | 20:28 |
| kindjal | my interfaces and bridges seem to come up, but ovs-dpctl dump-flows show “drop” rules that somehow need to get flushed/reset. | 20:29 |
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| admin0 | zeroshft: where is that news ? | 20:31 |
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| zeroshft | I was just asking I thought I read somewhere that RDO manager was now TripleO, now the guy above said HP left TripleO so that is most likely dead | 20:32 |
| zeroshft | I don't know anything | 20:33 |
| adam_g | you all should ask in #tripleo--it still looks plenty active by its IRC and gerrit activity | 20:34 |
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| annegentle | zeroshft: it was an error in causation/correlation. | 20:35 |
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| zeroshft | thanks for the clarification | 20:43 |
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| annegentle | TSCHAKWin: Rumors of TripleO extinction are greatly exaggerated. | 20:45 |
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| SamYaple | annegentle: lol | 20:57 |
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| annegentle | SamYaple: well... :) | 20:58 |
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| obedmr | hi all, does anyones knows how has been the talks selection for the last OpenStack summit? they said that it would in the first days of March | 22:05 |
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