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baqar | Hey guys. Does anyone have any idea whether the neutron-gateway juju charm is scalable or not? | 00:18 |
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baqar | Whether we can deploy multiple units of it? | 00:18 |
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jair | Hello people I am new to openstack, and I feel like entering an Amazon jungle in Brasil... I see openstack community, mirantis, rackspace, ubuntu, redhat, all of them saying that they have the best versions of OpenStack | 04:42 |
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jair | to be honest it feels like all the fight and distributions of linux out there | 04:42 |
jair | without any bias what version should I work with and therefore provide my feedback and results out of testing the program with my cloud | 04:43 |
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jidar | jair: whichever you want | 06:39 |
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hoiwan | hello...I installed openstack with packstack,but the network never worked.anybody went to this issue like me? | 06:59 |
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jair | jidar: but I am trying to go with the community edition | 07:18 |
jair | jidar: but sounds like the documentation is not too clear for me | 07:19 |
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ankit167 | hi | 07:30 |
ankit167 | had a question regarding nova/scheduler/weights/ram.py | 07:31 |
ankit167 | why is minval set to 0 by default? | 07:31 |
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UrpenSterk | how does one track down which instance on a computer node is the most resource intensive? | 07:50 |
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UrpenSterk | s/computer/compute | 07:50 |
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UrpenSterk | they don’t, do they? | 07:55 |
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haukebruno | UrpenSterk, for a current view you could use atop | 07:59 |
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haukebruno | but I am curious how folks measure it for e.g. a monitoring or graphing tool | 07:59 |
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UrpenSterk | that shows me that qemu-system is the most resource intensive service, but I’m unsure how to fingure out which instance that would equate to | 08:00 |
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haukebruno | uranellus, the commandline of qemu-system should point out the libvirt instance-id | 08:09 |
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UrpenSterk | ah cool | 08:15 |
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UrpenSterk | I think ‘lsof -p $(pidof qemu-system) | grep instance’ might give me what I need also | 08:16 |
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haukebruno | UrpenSterk, of course, but if you use a screen with at least 1080p resolution, you should see the instance-id also in atop :p | 08:22 |
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UrpenSterk | maybe one of these days =P | 08:22 |
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RageLtMan | Whats the proper way to track down where fwaas is failing to actuate? I have a deny-all rule on a firewall, and traffic is unhindered | 08:27 |
jair | Hello guys I am about to start the installation of mirantis openstack | 08:29 |
admin0 | good luck :D | 08:29 |
jair | I know there are so many versions canonical, community devstack, rackspace, redhat | 08:30 |
jair | it is crazy | 08:30 |
jair | but I think so far mirantis has the best and fatfree installer | 08:30 |
jair | I will give it a try | 08:31 |
admin0 | maas/juju , rackspace openstack-ansible, openstack-puppet, openstack-ceph, redhat(tripleO), mirantis(fuel) | 08:31 |
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jair | Thank you so much admin0 that is what I have been able to observe | 08:32 |
jair | all of them want add some weird stuff | 08:32 |
admin0 | used all, sticking to ansible :D | 08:32 |
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jair | ansible, rackspace why is that? | 08:33 |
jair | curious I am not sure about what to use | 08:33 |
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jair | but I noticed that the installer document from mirantis looks simple and require just three nodes | 08:34 |
admin0 | well, depends on your use case.. if this is for an office, private cloud — anything will work .. for customers/public cloud where they want this and that integration and changes, will use something that is easy to customize and hand-over | 08:34 |
jair | one controller and two additional I guess for compute? | 08:34 |
admin0 | test, you can use anything | 08:34 |
admin0 | if you want to run it for real, then the nodes go up | 08:34 |
admin0 | where is the HA that cloud promises .. one controller is not going to answer that requirement | 08:35 |
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haukebruno | admin0, +1. we are also trying openstack-ansible, I guess it will give us the most flexibility since our customers like to play with new openstack projects/features | 08:35 |
jair | admin0: fair enough, what about 1. testing myself in my laptop (horizon, cinder, glance, neutron, swift, ceilometer, heat,nova) | 08:35 |
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admin0 | haukebruno: i am working on this for a few days now: https://www.openstackfaq.com/openstack-liberty-private-cloud-howto/ .. a complete end to end openstack cloud howto | 08:35 |
admin0 | plan to give a few more weeks to add as much as I can for end to end deployments | 08:36 |
jair | admin0: nice | 08:36 |
haukebruno | admin0, looks great :) internaly I created some similar document for kilo. but it isn't that general | 08:36 |
jair | admin0: it is possible to have all in one vm? | 08:36 |
admin0 | VM i doubt | 08:37 |
admin0 | a good server = yes :D | 08:37 |
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haukebruno | admin0, so far we create(d) our platforms from scratch :p but 2 years would be enough for doing so I guess | 08:37 |
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admin0 | yep | 08:37 |
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admin0 | have more of “not invented here” stuff | 08:38 |
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jair | admin0: that document of yours is very helpful will definitely look at it | 08:39 |
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admin0 | jair: there are 2 ways of learning ( in my opininon ) .if you are a linux guy or a cloud admin already, i think doing it manual ( spending a weekend ) and understanding what goes where and then using fuel/rdo/ansible is helpful .. because you know what is happening and how it should work if it does not work .. but also if you are new, do not do this .. just install fuel, play with openstack .. and then go into details | 08:41 |
jair | hmm | 08:42 |
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admin0 | i have a car .. i just want to drive .. i still do not want to go into details of how it works or what to do .. if i had started to learn about the engine and how it works before i drove, it would have killed my enthusiasm to learn more and just drive | 08:42 |
admin0 | so if you are new to openstack, use fuel .. see how awesome it configures .. get impressed with what openstack can do .. and then go into details | 08:42 |
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jair | both options are good for me... I have good understanding of Linux, I was able to complete this part: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/devstack/guides/single-machine.html | 08:43 |
jair | admin0: but when I completed this in one VM only, I ended up with no neutron, no cinder or swift, very minimal | 08:44 |
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admin0 | i have till date not done a single vm stuff :D | 08:44 |
admin0 | rented big servers to ensure i can create enough vms to do it the real way | 08:44 |
jair | understood | 08:44 |
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jair | so I did that part and the installation was pretty much download the code, make some permission changes for stack and run the script | 08:45 |
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admin0 | :) | 08:46 |
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jair | but I am thinking about doing fuel or this: http://docs.openstack.org/liberty/install-guide-ubuntu/ | 08:46 |
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jair | admin0: I played a bit with nova, and glance, but like I said, neutron was missing, storage block and object missing, ceilometer, heat, missing | 08:47 |
admin0 | if you want to learn, use ansible or manually .. if you are under deadline and need to do it for others, use fuel :D | 08:47 |
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jair | I just want to have the environment with all the services ready to play, create ports, routers, vms, volumes, subnets private public etc... | 08:48 |
jair | admin0: a few quick questions about Openstack in general, why do we need to do that source file all the time when we want to use the command line? | 08:49 |
admin0 | jair: openstack ansible :) you just need 2 vms .. 1 controller , 1 compute .. .. run all on 1 controller :D | 08:49 |
jair | admin0: is that the same in all the controller nodes? | 08:49 |
admin0 | well, it puts your user/pass in the environmental variables so that you can then use the command line | 08:49 |
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jair | admin0: ahhh that sounds good | 08:49 |
admin0 | example, i have like 10 environments to play wtih .. so i need to source for each env i need to connect to | 08:49 |
jair | admin0: right | 08:50 |
jair | a bit hassle, but I do understand that part, so for each tenant? = project I need to have an admin and source the rc.sh file to this user with his username/pass correct? | 08:50 |
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admin0 | tenant = project | 08:51 |
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admin0 | yep | 08:51 |
admin0 | or just open 3 terminals and use 3 windows | 08:51 |
admin0 | with each user/pass | 08:51 |
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jair | admin0: cool | 08:54 |
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admin0 | you give me an idea jair .. i am going to do a 3 VM full openstack env howto using virtualbox and document it :D .. so it helps you to do eveything in your laptop | 08:55 |
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jair | admin0: one other thing I noticed, when we do the installation the password shows clear text during the installation and also at the end of the stack.sh script ;-( | 08:55 |
admin0 | i have not used stack.sh script , so cannot say .. but installation is supposed to be an admin/root level stuff .. you need to safeguard your environment .. | 08:56 |
jair | admin0: Hey I will actually appreciate that and if you have any interest in collaborate I will be happy to | 08:56 |
admin0 | all your users get is a user/pass/url via which they login and work | 08:56 |
jair | admin0: when I did all this isolated in a laptop ubuntu 14.04 lts 64bit no users other than root and stack | 08:57 |
admin0 | jair: the ansible-playbooks is meant for/used in production env .. so the controllers where all containers spawn, i have had success with at least 16gb of ram | 08:58 |
jair | admin0: I have my virtual boxes ready here to fire it up but I now need to find the ansible installer | 08:58 |
jair | admin0: should I get it from rackspace site? | 08:58 |
admin0 | no | 08:58 |
admin0 | do you have enough resources :D ? | 08:58 |
manous | helo | 08:58 |
jair | my laptop has 16GB ram and 8 cores | 08:58 |
jair | W510 IBM | 08:58 |
haukebruno | admin0, spending 1 weekend using openstack for the first time is very very optimistic :p | 08:59 |
jair | I have another laptop X230 8GB core I5 | 08:59 |
manous | i want to use https for public endpoint for neutron and swift. where i change it ? | 08:59 |
jair | admin0: I have ssd in both of my laptops | 08:59 |
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admin0 | manous: in the configs and keystone endpoint configs | 09:00 |
admin0 | dunno how its setup in the first place | 09:00 |
manous | keystone public endpoint use alredy htts | 09:00 |
manous | for neutron in neutron.conf ? | 09:01 |
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jair | doesn't neutron router to a public network needs to be configured and floating ip? | 09:02 |
jair | I am not sure | 09:02 |
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jair | ;( | 09:02 |
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jair | admin0: is this the one --> http://docs.openstack.org/developer/openstack-ansible/install-guide/? | 09:07 |
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haukebruno | as we talk about the ansible thing -> does anyone has issues running openstack-ansible under ubuntu 14.04 too? quick search pointed out some LXC problems while starting unpriviliged containers | 09:09 |
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jair | admin0: The recommended layout contains a minimum of five hosts (or servers). | 09:10 |
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jair | hmm that sounds like a bit too much for just testing | 09:10 |
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haukebruno | jair, could also be 5 VMs on your notebook | 09:14 |
haukebruno | in my first days I also run 3 openstack nodes + 3 ceph nodes inside my 8G ram notebook :p | 09:14 |
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jair | haukebruno: sure... but the fuel requires just three | 09:15 |
jair | hugokuo: and I will be able to have all the services including swift and neutron | 09:15 |
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jair | haukebruno: so I will go with fuel first | 09:15 |
jair | admin0: will do it in ansible in virtual box so let's see how it goes for him | 09:16 |
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jair | I will start the installation in the next few minutes | 09:16 |
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admin0 | back | 09:32 |
admin0 | i used to use this: https://www.online.net/en/dedicated-server/dedibox-lt .. very good for learning | 09:32 |
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admin0 | but now a days, you can easily do that using AWS as well | 09:33 |
admin0 | have a lot of VMS .. pay hourly | 09:33 |
admin0 | learn | 09:33 |
admin0 | destroy | 09:33 |
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cooldharma06 | minimal one: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/openstack-ansible/developer-docs/index.html | 10:20 |
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lptr | hi, could anyone hint as to how to enable the openstack repos on rhel7 (I have valid subscriptions) ? | 10:50 |
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lptr | nevermind...found it.. :) | 10:55 |
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haukebruno | has anyone around tips to speed up nova-api? running 2 nodes with nova-api, 20 worker each but still got a response time about 2-4s for nova list --all-tenants (20 instances in summary) | 12:51 |
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olivermller | Anyone else that's had problems accessing a VM via SSH after associating a floating IP with it? I can SSH to them, but I get stuck at the key exchange, except on Debian, which kills the session after a few commands. | 14:18 |
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yankcrime | haukebruno: how do you know nova-api is the bottleneck? i.e how quickly to queries return from your database, and then further up how quick is keystone to authenticate and issue tokens? | 14:33 |
yankcrime | olivermller: sounds like an MTU issue | 14:33 |
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Sam-I-Am | olivermller: yep, that would be mtu | 14:37 |
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haukebruno | yankcrime, just guessing so far. all keystone, glance or neutron related parts of horizon are faster for example, plus is the API response time lower ~1s for all other components vs. 2-4s for nova-api | 14:57 |
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haukebruno | yankcrime, but didn't took a deeper look, that will follow tomorrow. generally for me that isn't "too slow" but I am curious wether things could be faster (or not) | 14:58 |
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v3nd3tta`` | darnit, glance is a bitch... | 15:03 |
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KostasDi | hey there! I know my question is not directly related to openstack but there are not many places to ask, so here I go | 15:21 |
KostasDi | I've got my hands on a Seagate Kinetic drive, and I'm trying to make it work. Anyone has any relevant experience or could point me to the right direction? | 15:21 |
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olivermller | yankcrime, Sam-I-Am: Got it, thanks. | 15:22 |
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lbragstad | sayalilunkad results you asked about in #openstack-bugsmash https://gist.github.com/dolph/b8acbf7e4920e27dcb93 | 15:25 |
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sayalilunkad | lbragstad: thanks! | 15:28 |
lbragstad | sayalilunkad no problem! | 15:28 |
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v3nd3tta`` | okay i am on liberty and i have a bug with "openstack image list" where it defaults to a 404 because it requests from http://controller1:35357/v3/v2/images | 16:04 |
v3nd3tta`` | where the v3/v2 is the apparent issue and i can't seem to find it anywhere | 16:05 |
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v3nd3tta`` | do i have to report a bug or what to figure out where it comes from? | 16:16 |
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skullone | i figured out my live migration issue | 16:26 |
skullone | so, iscsi volumes work just fine for live migration | 16:27 |
skullone | my problem is - i use the config_drive | 16:27 |
skullone | which seemingly cannot be migrated | 16:27 |
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Sam-I-Am | v3nd3tta``: you probably made a config error somewhere | 16:31 |
v3nd3tta`` | i am searching for that error since hours but i cannot find it | 16:31 |
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v3nd3tta`` | also it only appears on "openstack image list", all others work, but this one 404's already at the apache path | 16:32 |
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Sam-I-Am | what do you mean all others work? | 16:33 |
v3nd3tta`` | user list, endpoint list etc | 16:33 |
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v3nd3tta`` | when i tied the rc file with v2 i got 404 all over | 16:34 |
Sam-I-Am | whats in your admin openrc file? | 16:34 |
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v3nd3tta`` | it literally doesn't matter if it's export OS_URL=http://controller1:35357 or export OS_URL=http://controller1:35357/v3 - apart from that there is export OS_IDENTITY_API_VERSION=3 and my token, that's it | 16:35 |
Sam-I-Am | no user creds in there? | 16:36 |
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v3nd3tta`` | no, the need for this is eliminated by the token | 16:38 |
Sam-I-Am | yeah, dont do that | 16:38 |
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Sam-I-Am | the admin token method does not understand versions | 16:38 |
Sam-I-Am | and hence, breaks, for anything except bootstrapping keystone | 16:38 |
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Sam-I-Am | you need to follow all the steps in the identity chapter of the installation guide | 16:39 |
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v3nd3tta`` | okay | 16:42 |
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v3nd3tta`` | still doesn't solve my logout issue in the dashboard upon entering "images". mh | 16:43 |
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Sam-I-Am | logout issue? | 16:44 |
v3nd3tta`` | well upon clicking "images" i get logged out, can't login with my user data either | 16:45 |
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v3nd3tta`` | ERROR glance.registry.client.v1.client NotAuthenticated: Authentication required | 16:46 |
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v3nd3tta`` | much better than 403 and "not authenticated" is 500 Internal Server Error: The server has either erred or is incapable of performing the requested operation. (HTTP 500) - that more seems like it is </frustrated> | 17:06 |
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Sam-I-Am | v3nd3tta``: sounds like your auth is messed up | 17:14 |
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v3nd3tta`` | yup, seems like that but i can't find a mistake... i would need to reset the glance config i think | 17:18 |
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Sharkonwheels | This a good place to ask about architecting an OpenStack env? | 17:39 |
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admin0 | go ahead sh_smith | 17:41 |
admin0 | Sharkonwheels: | 17:41 |
admin0 | :D | 17:41 |
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admin0 | sorry sh_smith | 17:41 |
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Sharkonwheels | quick BG: we have 22 locations, vmware, vCenter 5.5. (5)HP DL380 G8/G9 hosts, (4)HP StorVirtual iSCSI SANs on average. 60% of our workload is Win VMs. | 17:42 |
admin0 | ok | 17:43 |
Sharkonwheels | We're looking at using LXC/LXD containers, and was wondering if OpenStack can be run managing just containers, ie, have a few VMs for running them, and us OStack for them. | 17:43 |
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Sharkonwheels | we're getting more and more Linux stuff, but building a whole VM is a waste. Don't need bare-metal virtualization, but would love the extra features of LXD, ie, live migration, etc.. | 17:44 |
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admin0 | you can setup a openstack cluster to test out, and try out magnum ( for the containers ) .. but it is not mature enough | 17:51 |
admin0 | but good enough to test if it fits your expectations | 17:52 |
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Sharkonwheels | <searching on magnum> | 17:53 |
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admin0 | Sharkonwheels: https://www.openstack.org/summit/vancouver-2015/summit-videos/presentation/magnum-containers-as-a-service-for-openstack | 17:59 |
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admin0 | Sharkonwheels: https://www.openstack.org/assets/pdf-downloads/Containers-and-OpenStack.pdf | 18:00 |
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Sharkonwheels | Admin0: That pdf states that LXC and VZ containers are supported today, and docker and others under magnum. What's the state of LXC/LXD support? I assume OStack+heat would rock... | 18:06 |
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admin0 | Sharkonwheels: i am a kvm shop .. not sure on the state or the supprot of lxc | 18:07 |
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skoude | I have a problem that my instances are not getting an ip with dhcp.. Any idea how to fix this issue? I have a corosync, pacemaker and drbd in use, and I see that the dhcp query gets to compute node, but it get's no answer from primary control node. | 19:06 |
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admin0 | skoude: instance -> compute -> switches -> network node -> namespace -> dnsmasq | 19:08 |
admin0 | have you checked the flow of the packet everywhere ? | 19:08 |
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skoude | admin0: The problem started after running updates to cloud. It worked yesterday, but I have been debuggin it since... | 19:09 |
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admin0 | that didn’t answer my question though :D | 19:10 |
skoude | admin0: and I'm not shure what should I check. :) | 19:10 |
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admin0 | run dhcp query in the instance . and then run tcpdump on your network and compute node | 19:10 |
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admin0 | see if those are getting the request .. if they are, check the return path as well | 19:11 |
skoude | I checked this: http://pastebin.com/RY3utCwD | 19:11 |
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skoude | admin0: and then I checked the interfaces like this: http://pastebin.com | 19:12 |
skoude | so basically it seems that the request is not coming to control node.. | 19:13 |
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skoude | But I haven't yet figured out how to solve it | 19:14 |
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admin0 | switch, router, something in between ? | 19:14 |
admin0 | wait | 19:14 |
admin0 | that tcpdump is from the instance or the compute node ? | 19:15 |
admin0 | nvm.. compute node | 19:15 |
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skoude | switches are fine.. DO you mean the virtual routers? | 19:16 |
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admin0 | where are the virtual routers ? in the controller nodes ? | 19:17 |
skoude | the routers are on control nodes: root@d0c-c4-7a-1f-0a-28:~ # ip netns | 19:17 |
skoude | qdhcp-ec7001fa-2582-45c2-8fb0-6dd00a741b63 | 19:17 |
skoude | qrouter-2bb1a093-d4bc-4ddf-be48-447b24e07497 | 19:17 |
skoude | qrouter-d99cffe0-5ac5-413d-8f57-be1c2dc63787 | 19:17 |
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admin0 | i do not know how to help further .. something in blocking the dhcp | 19:20 |
admin0 | maybe on different vlans ? | 19:20 |
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skoude | admin0: that's okay, if you come with any idea, just let me know.. I will try to figure it out somehow.. | 19:21 |
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skoude | admin0: and thanks for help :) | 19:21 |
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skoude | admin0: migth the problem be with the tap4d7c36fc-03 -interface.. see: http://pastebin.com/J9Gm4V7u | 19:39 |
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rickyrem | Do GRE tunnels scale better than using VXLAN? I read somewhere that VXLAN doesn't scale very well when getting past 30 nodes. | 19:42 |
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jidar | rickyrem: that might be the case if you're not using l2 population for mac address population | 19:44 |
jidar | because in some ways, it defaults to multicast for that learning and there are issues that may crop up | 19:44 |
jidar | this is just hearsay on my part, I've not seen any of these issues even without l2population on | 19:45 |
rickyrem | jidar: okay! thanks for your input | 19:45 |
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rickyrem | Another person I can't ask setup these neutron configs so i'm questioning each option to learn. | 19:46 |
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rickyrem | For ml2 i have set "tenant_network_types = gre, vxlan" I'm not sure why both are set. The guides Ive seen just use one options. | 19:49 |
rickyrem | Do you have input as to why it has both? | 19:49 |
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jidar | they're just both enabled | 19:53 |
jidar | so you can either create GRE tunnels or VXLAN tunnels | 19:53 |
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jidar | I personally just use one | 19:54 |
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rickyrem | jidar: Okay, that makes sense | 19:55 |
jidar | some of my customers like to enable everything though | 19:56 |
* jidar shrugs | 19:56 | |
jidar | they just let the usecase define what to use | 19:56 |
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Rado | I'm trying to have a VM route traffic for an isolated subnet and source address verification is preventing this- neutron creates those rules: Chain neutron-openvswi-s95f580da-0 (1 references) pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination 214 44784 RETURN all -- * * 192.168.0.6 0.0.0.0/0 MAC FA:16:3E:40:8E:23 /* Allow traffic from defined IP/MAC pairs. */ 15463 | 20:15 |
Rado | I'm trying to have a VM route traffic for an isolated subnet and source address verification is preventing this- neutron creates those rules: | 20:15 |
Rado | Chain neutron-openvswi-s95f580da-0 (1 references) | 20:15 |
Rado | pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination | 20:15 |
Rado | 214 44784 RETURN all -- * * 192.168.0.6 0.0.0.0/0 MAC FA:16:3E:40:8E:23 /* Allow traffic from defined IP/MAC pairs. */ | 20:15 |
Rado | 15463 1315K DROP all -- * * 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.0/0 /* Drop traffic without an IP/MAC allow rule. */ | 20:15 |
Rado | how can we disable creation of the drop rule altogether? | 20:15 |
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twm_2016 | Has anyone here encountered problems related to installing deps while running a tox test on swift? | 20:30 |
twm_2016 | I've tried the solution here: https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/gcloud-python/issues/1103 but haven't had any luck. | 20:30 |
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tdasilva | twm_2016: what errors are you running into? can you put in pastebin? | 20:36 |
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twm_2016 | tdasilva: this is the output http://paste.openstack.org/show/490249/ | 20:39 |
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georgem1 | Rado: http://blog.otherwiseguy.com/trying-out-the-ml2-port-security-extension/ | 20:59 |
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tull | I would like to enable hyper-threading on some of my compute nodes - once it's been done at the compute node level, what do I need to do to make the scheduler aware of the increased capacity? Is it simply modifying nova.compute_nodes.vcpus in the DB? | 21:19 |
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SamYaple | tull: those stats get reported periodically | 21:24 |
SamYaple | worst case is you would need to restart the nova-compute service | 21:24 |
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SamYaple | that said i dont think you can toggle HT without a reboot anyway | 21:25 |
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djdjdhd | How do i get involved in any open stack project | 22:43 |
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dvizer | How do i get involved with openstack projects | 22:47 |
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ssg | i change the cpu allocation and restart nova-scheduler an nova-compute service, but it still doesn't reflect the vcpu on hypervisor-show? | 23:30 |
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SamYaple | ssg: it wont affect it on hypervisor-show | 23:31 |
SamYaple | thats the real count | 23:31 |
SamYaple | it does update it from the schedulers point of view | 23:31 |
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ssg | then what does the vcpus means under hypervisor-show? is that the physical core? but not the overcommit? | 23:32 |
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SamYaple | ssg: correct, as silly as that seems | 23:52 |
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SamYaple | its technically the number of threads, not neccesarrily the physical core count | 23:52 |
SamYaple | so intel with HT 8 core would show 16 threads and 16 vcpus under hypervisor-show | 23:52 |
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ssg | got it thanks SamYaple | 23:53 |
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tull | @SamYaple - following up on that, would it reflect physical cores or vcpus in the nova DB? | 23:56 |
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