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| jwitko | hey guys, getting this error when heat tries to provision a stack | 00:44 |
| jwitko | It is not allowed to create an interface on external network | 00:44 |
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| fellayaboy | does IaaS mean a group of VM's working together to perform a function such as you would get with a LAMP stack or a MEAN stack. Does it mean you can deploy infrastructures such as a group of VM's that work together... | 00:58 |
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| fellayaboy | whats the difference between a IaaS and a hypervisor? is openstack a hypervisor? | 00:59 |
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| fellayaboy | is openstack similar to AWS and Azure where you pay for or 'rent' the VM's/infrastucture? | 01:02 |
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| forbiddenera | fellayaboy: OpenStack is similar to the *architecture* that *runs* AWS | 01:03 |
| forbiddenera | fellayaboy: openstack manages a hypervisor (can be Xen, vmware, qemu, even docker) | 01:03 |
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| fellayaboy | i see i see..xen as in citrix Xen? | 01:04 |
| forbiddenera | fellayaboy: openstack is a set of tools that work together to manage infrastructures | 01:04 |
| forbiddenera | xen as in the xen hypervisor, I do believe, yes, citrix now owns xen, but don't confuse the hypervisor with their virtual desktop infastructure | 01:04 |
| fellayaboy | to manage infrastructures? | 01:04 |
| fellayaboy | ok i see i see | 01:05 |
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| forbiddenera | OpenStack is a collection of tools | 01:05 |
| fellayaboy | okay i got ya | 01:05 |
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| fellayaboy | so could an individual actually use openstack to make his own iaas similiar to AWS and azure? | 01:05 |
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| forbiddenera | the "stack" includes tools like keystone (for auth/key management), neutron (for network management), nova (for virtual machine hosting/management), horizon (web based control panel), glance (image server), swift (object/database store) | 01:06 |
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| fellayaboy | are ther licensing fees other than support that would be involved if i had like 2 million dollars and a ton of server/hardware? | 01:06 |
| fellayaboy | oh i see | 01:06 |
| forbiddenera | fellayaboy: yeah, basically.. | 01:06 |
| forbiddenera | There's several different openstack "distributions" similar to the way there are several linux distributions | 01:06 |
| fellayaboy | oh ok | 01:07 |
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| forbiddenera | Some include different patches, different custom tools for management, different setup philosophies | 01:07 |
| fellayaboy | didnt know that | 01:07 |
| forbiddenera | but the core openstack is free/open source software | 01:07 |
| forbiddenera | Mirantis OpenStack is an example of a distribution | 01:07 |
| fellayaboy | so okay so theres multiple distros of openstack okay | 01:07 |
| fellayaboy | didnt know that neither | 01:07 |
| forbiddenera | its QUITE confusing at first.. I've been developing for over 20 years (just turned 30, started with basic on a Commodore 64 when I was 5 or 6, then moved to basic on DOS on a 386 and then turbo c/c++ on a 486 by age 8) | 01:08 |
| fellayaboy | holy smokes | 01:09 |
| forbiddenera | I wasn't sure how exactly it fit into a server ecosystem and what's more confusing is that every configuration can be different | 01:09 |
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| fellayaboy | yeah seems very complex | 01:09 |
| forbiddenera | When I was first playing with openstack, I was actually running each of the individual services for openstack within a docker container in a virtual machine hosted on an openstack cloud | 01:09 |
| fellayaboy | but at least you've shun some light in my direction | 01:09 |
| forbiddenera | OpenStack on OpenStack! lol | 01:09 |
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| fellayaboy | lol | 01:09 |
| fellayaboy | oh i see | 01:10 |
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| fellayaboy | running openstack on openstack and did it work? | 01:10 |
| fellayaboy | what were some of the main things you've helped developed over the years? | 01:11 |
| whytewolf | no reason it shouldn't. although i bet the networking got very complex | 01:11 |
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| forbiddenera | yeah it worked fine, the biggest limitation was nested virtualization but I wasn't particularly looking for that in my setup, it was more for managing docker instances | 01:12 |
| fellayaboy | yea ive figured it would. i know i usually have troubles installing certain guest os on virtualbox such as vsphere esxi, MDT etc | 01:12 |
| forbiddenera | Yeah, the problem with using ESXi on a virtual machine is the 'nested virtualization' issue | 01:13 |
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| forbiddenera | It can be done with some hypervisors via emulation.. If you have EPT support on your CPU, then you'll have better luck | 01:13 |
| forbiddenera | EPT allows nested virtualization to work better/faster/run 64bit guests nested | 01:13 |
| fellayaboy | ill have to keep that in mind next time | 01:14 |
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| forbiddenera | EPT is only on core iX and newer and xeons based off the same architecture | 01:14 |
| fellayaboy | forbiddenera, thanks for you help bud | 01:14 |
| forbiddenera | unfortunately both my dual quadcore xeons only have virt support and not ept :( | 01:14 |
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| forbiddenera | fellayaboy: no problem. if you really have a few million to invest you should send me an email :) | 01:14 |
| fellayaboy | so i guess ept is the new thing | 01:14 |
| fellayaboy | lol i havent have a penny | 01:15 |
| fellayaboy | i was just curious | 01:15 |
| fellayaboy | lol | 01:15 |
| whytewolf | a few million could buy a nice openstack cluster. I built my home one with only 10k | 01:15 |
| forbiddenera | yeah ept = extended page tables.. pretty new.. It's also known as SLAT | 01:15 |
| fellayaboy | holy crap 10k for an inhome openstack cluster? | 01:15 |
| forbiddenera | yeah, if I had a few million, I'd build a drooling cluster | 01:15 |
| fellayaboy | what are you running over there lol | 01:15 |
| forbiddenera | 10k isn't much if you consider it | 01:15 |
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| forbiddenera | a current enterprise level server without storage starts around 3000-5000 | 01:16 |
| fellayaboy | omg wow | 01:16 |
| fellayaboy | well i mean | 01:16 |
| forbiddenera | I have a dell poweredge 2950 III from 2009? i think and I paid like 200 for it | 01:16 |
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| fellayaboy | if you have the resources or if your a small-mid business shouldnt be too bad you know | 01:16 |
| forbiddenera | originally it was like 3000 or 4000 without drives, remote access card | 01:16 |
| whytewolf | I have one of those as my deply server. things work like a beast and keep ticking | 01:16 |
| forbiddenera | yeah I love them especially how cheap they are | 01:17 |
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| forbiddenera | except how loud they are.. though, there's a way to modify the fans to make it quieter without really hitting thermal issues | 01:17 |
| fellayaboy | yeah i had a server i bought for $400, 40gb ram wasnt bad at all | 01:17 |
| fellayaboy | at home i wanted to have like 4 blade servers, i had two but it kept killing my power | 01:17 |
| forbiddenera | I haven't been able to get the fans to spin up to 100% *EVER*, maxxing out all 16gb ram and 8 cpus and gpgpu | 01:17 |
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| fellayaboy | circuit breaker would go off | 01:18 |
| forbiddenera | lol | 01:18 |
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| forbiddenera | well most servers/blades have separate power supplies | 01:18 |
| forbiddenera | one of the (many) reasons for that is so you can run one on each breaker | 01:18 |
| fellayaboy | ohhh that makes sense lol | 01:18 |
| forbiddenera | what you should do, if its at your house, is find a plug thats on another breaker, run an extension cord from it and plug one PSU into the local plug and one into the remote plug | 01:18 |
| fellayaboy | yeah most have at least 2 psu | 01:18 |
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| forbiddenera | it will divide the load across both circuits and also act as a failsafe | 01:19 |
| fellayaboy | thats pretty smart | 01:19 |
| forbiddenera | I'd also recommend a battery backup/UPS.. but make sure it has capacity.. mine beeps like crazy as soon as my server starts processing anything lmao | 01:19 |
| fellayaboy | lolol | 01:19 |
| forbiddenera | I actually pulled it off and only have my modem/switches on it right now.. kinda annoying but meh | 01:19 |
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| forbiddenera | but yeah for testing the poweredge2950 is a great cheap server, they can be found in abundance at electronics recyclers.. not *new new* hardware but still pretty powerful | 01:20 |
| fellayaboy | i hate that, if it werent for the power issues i would have alot going on but at least with that information you gave me i could probably balance it out now | 01:20 |
| forbiddenera | unfortunately, yes, lacks some of the newer features like EPT/SLAT but.. | 01:20 |
| forbiddenera | generally they come with baseband management, some come with remote access cards too (like a networked KVM built in) | 01:20 |
| fellayaboy | ill have to check out a server with EPT | 01:20 |
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| forbiddenera | so you can do remote access without even an OS installed.. the baseband allows you to do some things (reboot, power down, change settings) remotely though | 01:21 |
| fellayaboy | i know most servers have the virtualization hardware option in bios | 01:21 |
| forbiddenera | yep pretty much all 64 bit processors have virtualization support | 01:21 |
| fellayaboy | yes i know dell has that mostly on there servers... you can reboot from a web interface | 01:21 |
| fellayaboy | etc | 01:21 |
| forbiddenera | which is required for 64bit guests.. and then ept is required for accelerating nested guests and 64bit nested guests (afaik, may be wrong about that detail) | 01:22 |
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| forbiddenera | yeah the web interface is just an interface to IPMI | 01:22 |
| forbiddenera | I actually want to get a couple of 2009 Xserve's too when I can | 01:22 |
| fellayaboy | ibm x? | 01:22 |
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| whytewolf | when I upgraded I got a pretty good deal on 2 of these http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/systems/servers/racks/thinkserver/rd450/ ended up split 128 gigs between them and dumping 8 1 tb drives into them. and have both cpu slots filled. [E5-2606 v3's but still] in total cost about 5K for both. and they are making up the bulk of my compute now | 01:26 |
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| forbiddenera | the only crappy thing about them is they only take 3 drives and their raid system is only IDE | 01:27 |
| forbiddenera | no, apple Xserve | 01:27 |
| forbiddenera | and the actual system is only SATA too not SAS | 01:27 |
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| forbiddenera | I wish apple didn't kill the Xserve, beautiful server not perfect but close | 01:28 |
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| forbiddenera | if they added SAS and made a SAS raid box, it would be the perfect 1u server | 01:28 |
| forbiddenera | I am an electronic musician too so having a rackmac would be nice.. I know there's rack adapters for the new mac pro and the mac minis but neither has OOB management which is a huge nogo for any real server stuff | 01:29 |
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| forbiddenera | I have access to a test cluster presently. 5 nodes that are dual 12-core xeons, 128gb ram each and 4xNvidia K80, 2xNvidia M40, 2xNVidiaK40 across the cluster | 01:30 |
| whytewolf | anyway. about why i am here. I am having a hell of a time with LBaaS. it acts like it wants to work. however it isn't actually spinning up haproxy in the ip netspace. and only seems to build the ip netspace once a vip is attached. even though it trys grabbing stats once the pool is created. | 01:31 |
| forbiddenera | the m40 does more than two k80s!!! | 01:31 |
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| forbiddenera | interesting, not sure why that would happen but I haven't fkd with lbaas much yet | 01:31 |
| forbiddenera | at least on top of os, I setup my own "lbaas" system under openstack using containers for HAproxy | 01:32 |
| forbiddenera | maybe someone can help with my issue tho | 01:33 |
| forbiddenera | glance image-list works fine but nova image-list fails? I'm following the liberty openstack install guide for ubuntu to the letter pretty much, was doing great until I hit this. | 01:33 |
| forbiddenera | getting a 500 error | 01:33 |
| forbiddenera | http://pastebin.com/L3YByeW2 | 01:34 |
| forbiddenera | ^my config, the error I'm getting, etc | 01:34 |
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| jwitko | hey guys, getting this error when heat tries to provision a stack "It is not allowed to create an interface on external network" It seems like Heat doesn't have proper permissions ? | 01:36 |
| whytewolf | very strange. is there anything in the glance logs? | 01:36 |
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| jwitko | I've read this will happen on a network with router-external=True not set, but I've double checked mine are all set | 01:36 |
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| whytewolf | humm somehow my nova image-list works with out the api_servers setting in the [glance] section | 01:38 |
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| whytewolf | jwitko: from what i am seeing that error means you are trying to boot a instance on an external shared network with out the creator being an admin and the network IS set to router:external True | 01:43 |
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| jwitko | whytewolf, is there any way I can change the creator? or can I look at who it is? the tenant ID of the network is correct | 01:51 |
| jwitko | whytewolf I can create VMs that work no problem outside of heat | 01:51 |
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| whytewolf | it should be the user that you are logged into IIRC . honestly I'm not to familure with heat. or at least i have not touched it in a couple of years | 01:51 |
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| forbiddenera | anyone have any ideas why nova image-list wont work? it errors out.. I can glance image list | 02:29 |
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| forbiddenera | http://pastebin.com/L3YByeW2 <-- error & config | 02:29 |
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| forbiddenera | I've triple checked my configs and stuff.. even nova services works ? its like nova cant talk to glance .. | 02:31 |
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| forbiddenera | wondering if somethings wrong with my endpoints or something? :/ | 02:32 |
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| Sam-I-Am | forbiddenera: i'm guessing there's a problem with the correct region not being specified everywhere or the fact that keystone is keystone0 in identity | 03:34 |
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| Sam-I-Am | things default to RegionOne unless explicitly configured | 03:34 |
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| forbiddenera | Sam-I-Am : actually, I believe I somehow pasted an invisible character or something into the config? | 03:44 |
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| forbiddenera | Sam-I-Am: I just got it to work, finally, could have maybe been either my endpoints being at v2 when they shouldve been v3 for keystone or that ^ cuz glance stopped connecting to mysql at some point (earlier i could glance image-list and not nova image-list) and I had to paste in a new sql string? exact same characters visible in the file, I checked the sql logs and it appeared to be providing the right connection details but | 03:46 |
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| forbiddenera | but now i can glance image-list AND nova-image list :D | 03:46 |
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| forbiddenera | I swear this happens to me sometimes and it takes hours to figure out! I blame utf8 lol | 03:48 |
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| forbiddenera | what do you do when everything *looks* right but the string doesn't compare because of utf/ascii differences | 03:49 |
| forbiddenera | you throw shit out the windo | 03:49 |
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| forbiddenera | oo another good one is when I don't realize textedit has smartquotes on and I paste from there..thats a little more obvious tho | 03:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | heh, nice | 03:50 |
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| Sam-I-Am | errors can be obscure | 03:51 |
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| forbiddenera | sure they can be obscure but seriously what logic is there in "i'm going to replace this string in a configuration file with the exact same one and hope it works" | 04:37 |
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| mohankumar | HI Team , i need help about " https://www.openstack.org/marketplace/drivers/ " | 06:31 |
| mohankumar | I added my driver's data tothe driverlog project a few month ago when does the content at | 06:31 |
| mohankumar | https://www.openstack.org/marketplace/drivers/ get rebuilt? | 06:31 |
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| aarcane | So uh.. I currently run bare libvirt. I'm considering moving to something like openstack that will enable more seamless VM migration... I have one major sticking point, and that is that one of the VMs I need to manage and migrate freely is my local WAN router. WAN specific traffic travels across a VLAN to each local VM host, and at present only router VMs are tagged into that VLAN. Can openstack support this | 07:47 |
| aarcane | configuration? | 07:47 |
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| fhorvath | hi all | 09:20 |
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| fhorvath | could anyone help me in watchdog related stuff? | 09:20 |
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| softded | Hello. I use OpenStack Swift with swauth. After deleted account with suffix "softded" I can't create it again. I see that it's account exists in account db with status "DELETED". Why it account not deleted? Object replicator working correctly, claim_age changed to 60 seconds | 09:44 |
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| pece | How do I add role assignment using python-openstackclient? | 09:51 |
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| forbiddenera | should I use ovs or linuxbridge? (probably hard to answer without a specific use case but I'm looking for sort of generic pros/cons for each) | 09:55 |
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| rbking | hi, I downloaded the centos cloud image and create the instance, however, I cannot login to the instance using username "centos" | 10:17 |
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| rbking | I have the key-name ready in the syste, before creating the image, any idea? | 10:18 |
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| rbking | anyone can help? | 10:21 |
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| rbking | anyone can help? | 10:26 |
| cooldharma06 | http://docs.openstack.org/user-guide/dashboard_launch_instances.html | 10:26 |
| cooldharma06 | rbking launch ur instance with keypair then u can login using the keypairs | 10:27 |
| rbking | my keypair name is mykey | 10:28 |
| rbking | and I use this in the nova boot command | 10:28 |
| rbking | but it is failed | 10:28 |
| rbking | why? | 10:28 |
| cooldharma06 | rbking -> http://docs.openstack.org/user-guide/cli_cheat_sheet.html | 10:29 |
| cooldharma06 | i think this one will help u :) | 10:29 |
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| rbking | failed | 10:33 |
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| timss | Hi. Following a controller crash one instance is stuck in task 'image_snapshot_pending'. How do I cancel this task, as it currently is not able to execute any other new tasks? | 12:18 |
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| n1colas | Hello | 12:59 |
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| nikre | I have used this script to create a vm using an iso file. How am i supposed to interact with this vm? Can you redirect me to a specific function name? | 13:07 |
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| nikre | https://github.com/makelinux/devstack-install-on-iso | 13:07 |
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| inam_ | Hi, Is anyone here? | 13:23 |
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| eriswans | I have one tenant/router/subnet where instances without floating IPs can't reach the outside world, but another tenant/router/subnetw where instances without floating IPs *can* reach the outside world. I can't find any apparent differences in the configurations. Where should I look? (Liberty on Ubuntu, installed with fuel 8.0. Using Neutron DVR.) | 18:07 |
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| CypherPR | sup Guest63003 | 19:03 |
| CypherPR | :D | 19:03 |
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| Guest63003 | Hi. I just migrate from kilo to Liberty. I'm using Hostbill for billing purpose. It appared that openstack module on hostbill only support keystone api v2. | 19:06 |
| Guest63003 | How can I ovewrite this? | 19:06 |
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| manous | hello | 19:07 |
| manous | one hypervisor not update status | 19:08 |
| manous | status is down and when i restart nova-compute it's up | 19:08 |
| manous | what can be problem ? | 19:08 |
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| aarcane | I currently run bare libvirt. I'm considering moving to something like openstack that will enable more seamless VM migration... I have one major sticking point, and that is that one of the VMs I need to migrate freely is my local WAN router. WAN specific traffic travels across a VLAN to each local VM host, and at present only router VMs are tagged into that VLAN. Can openstack support this configuration? | 20:08 |
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| kindjal | should there exist a qhdcp-X namespace for each router defined in neutron? | 22:22 |
| kindjal | if so, how can I get them to be “re-made”? I seem to be missing one. | 22:23 |
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| kindjal | I get an IP address via DHCP, but metadata queries fail. | 22:25 |
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