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lorddaedrahello) what is the best OS for Openstack? Ubuntu? Debian? Anything else?..02:37
lorddaedra(for production deployments)02:37
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iggyI saw an article recently that said Ubuntu was the most popular OS _in_ openstack... don't know exactly how that was measured or if that equates to anything about the hosts themselves04:46
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lawlorddaedra: in my (admittedly) limited experience, you will probably have much less pain if you go with an LTS release of Ubuntu06:33
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lorddaedrawhat do you think about mirantis?06:34
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lorddaedra(how it compared: ubuntu vs mirantis)06:35
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rbking_hi, anyone can let me know where I can find information on the difference between Mitaka  and Liberty ?09:12
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haukebrunorbking_, a good point to start is http://releases.openstack.org/09:16
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robin3425hello!09:38
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robin3425I am trying to install network tab in an openstack installation that I have made on one node with VMs09:39
robin3425I have installed neutron, neutron-api and neutron-openvswtich09:40
robin3425but network tab is not appearing when I log in horizon09:40
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robin3425also it seems that something called neutron-plugin is not installed  and I cannot find how to09:40
robin3425is this the problem?09:40
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haukebrunorobin3425, you also need the neutron agents (l3-agent, metadata-agent and dhcp-agent)09:50
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yangzihello09:52
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robin3425ok thanks haukebruno, is this something that I have to install on the machine with the neutron services?10:18
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haukebrunorobin3425, it depends what you mean with 'neutron services' :) in general there is neutron-server and the neutron agents10:23
haukebrunowe like to seperate both, but you also could install all neutron-* stuff on 1 node10:23
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fxpesterhi all,devstack mitaka on single machine, network randomly goes down, debuged it to understand that is it ARP problem, can someone share a hint about debugging ARP problems in neutron ?10:51
fxpesterstate 1: VM can`t ping phys machine. I start `tcpdump -an -i br-ex host 192.168.1.30` and randomly got pings OK10:55
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raj_Hi, I am getting "Could not process panel theme_preview: Dashboard with slug "developer" is not registered." while logging into openstack dashboard11:22
raj_somebody please help me11:22
raj_I am using mitaka11:23
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ReSeLaIs something wrong with the repository? When i run sudo apt-get install glance, it says it installs but nothing is actually installed to the /etc/glance-folder exept an empty folder named metadefs11:34
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venumurthyFollowing this document http://docs.openstack.org/mitaka/install-guide-ubuntu/keystone-verify.html14:25
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venumurthywhen i try to issue a token am getting an error14:26
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venumurthyThe request you have made requires authentication. (HTTP 401) (Request-ID: req-a4ddeb04-2589-4309-afb7-5ef6e2329306)14:26
openstacknew1111I would like to start an IaaS public cloud provider business and suggestion?14:26
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openstacknew1111any suggestion?14:26
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venumurthymy openstackclient is 2.314:26
venumurthyand i see that it is not sending the password nor is prompting me for a password14:27
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venumurthyany help would be much appreciable,as i am stuck with it for the past two days14:28
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parkercan someone send me a link on how to write a vendor plugin for cinder?14:44
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crazypenguinneed help, having a problem creating a new user to setup glance15:18
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crazypenguinserver changes auth url durimg process of user creation15:19
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crazypenguinextract from debug: Using parameters {'username': 'admin', 'project_name': 'eip_admin', 'auth_url': 'http://cpos1:35357/v3', 'user_domain_name': 'EIP', 'password': '***', 'project_domain_name': 'EIP'}15:23
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crazypenguinResetting dropped connection: cpos1 "POST /v3/auth/tokens HTTP/1.1" 201 1206 REQ: curl -g -i -X GET http://cpsl1:35357/v3 -H "Accept: application/json" -H "User-Agent: python-openstackclient keystoneauth1/2.2.0 python-requests/2.9.1 CPython/2.7.9"15:24
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crazypenguinSeems to change the auth URL to a different server, where no identity service is running15:24
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crazypenguinhave no idea why and where it gets the wrong server from15:25
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Sam-I-Amdifferent server?15:29
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Sam-I-Amcrazypenguin: ?15:32
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crazypenguinwhat's your question Sam15:32
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Sam-I-Amyou said it changes the auth url to a different server15:32
Sam-I-Amwhat exactly does that mean15:33
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crazypenguinoriginal auth url is http://cpos1:35357/v315:33
crazypenguinthat parameter is passed in15:33
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Sam-I-Amyeah, thats from os_auth_url or something15:34
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kur1j_Hello, I'm slightly confused on the vxlan implementation of OS. On the physical network side of things how would it differ? Do I need to do anything special to my switches? I used fuel to deploy a vxlan based OS and it seems to be working but not sure where the vxlan part comes in.15:34
crazypenguinfrom the debug I see: Resetting dropped connection: cpos1 "POST /v3/auth/tokens HTTP/1.1" 201 1206 REQ: curl -g -i -X GET http://cpsl1:35357/v315:34
crazypenguinsomehow the script suddenly uses a different url for authentication15:34
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Sam-I-Amkur1j_: vxlan uses conventional IP networking. works on any network, but you may have to consider the overhead of overlay protocols.15:34
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Sam-I-Amcrazypenguin: dns issue? problem with the keystone endpoints?15:35
Sam-I-Amits not an openstack problem15:35
Sam-I-Amwell, not a bug15:35
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crazypenguinall a single machine set up for test purposes15:35
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crazypenguinany hint where to look why the url changes?15:36
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Sam-I-Ammaybe a typo somewhere?15:37
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Sam-I-Amopenstack endpoint list would be a good one... see what your keystone endpoints look like15:37
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crazypenguinkeystone.conf?15:37
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Sam-I-Amwell, 'openstack endpoint list' ... the command15:38
Sam-I-Amshould show your endpoints, assuming it works15:38
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crazypenguinMaking authentication request to http://cpos1:35357/v3/auth/tokens "POST /v3/auth/tokens HTTP/1.1" 201 1206 REQ: curl -g -i -X GET http://cpsl1:35357/v3 -H "Accept: application/json" -H "User-Agent: python-openstackclient keystoneauth1/2.2.0 python-requests/2.9.1 CPython/2.7.9" Starting new HTTP connection (1): cpsl115:40
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crazypenguinagain from debug, when trying to list endpoints15:40
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crazypenguinbasically that command runs into the same error15:41
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kur1j_Sam-I-Am: so I don't have to have any special hardware, networking equipment?15:43
kur1j_or configuration? I just saw support on a network card for "vxlan" so I assumed that there was some type of hardware support?15:43
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Sam-I-Amsome newer nics support accelerating vxlan in hardware, and some network gear supports vteps, but none of that is necessary.15:44
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Sam-I-Amcrazypenguin: do you have os_auth_url and os_url set in your env vars?15:44
kur1j_ahh thanks. interesting15:44
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crazypenguinonly set os_url15:45
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crazypenguinbahaviour doesn't change, when setting it15:48
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crazypenguinMaking authentication request to http://cpos1:35357/v3/auth/tokens "POST /v3/auth/tokens HTTP/1.1" 201 1206 run(Namespace(columns=[], description=None, disable=False, domain=None, email=None, enable=False, formatter='table', max_width=0, name='glance', noindent=False, or_show=False, password=None, password_prompt=True, prefix='', project=None, project_domain=None, variables=[])) Instantiating identity client: <class 'keystonec15:49
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crazypenguinRepeat User Password: Making authentication request to http://cpos1:35357/v3/auth/tokens "POST /v3/auth/tokens HTTP/1.1" 201 1206 REQ: curl -g -i -X GET http://cpsl1:35357/v3 -H "Accept: application/json" -H "User-Agent: python-openstackclient keystoneauth1/2.2.0 python-requests/2.9.1 CPython/2.7.9"15:50
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venumurthy@crazypenguin I am having the same issue16:25
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venumurthyI suspect that something is broken in the openstackclient16:26
venumurthyif you get this fixed, please let me know how you fixed it.16:26
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venumurthyhave been struggling for 2 days now16:26
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Sam-I-Amwell, os_url and os_auth_url are different things16:40
Sam-I-Amyou should only have os_auth_url set after initially populating keystone... using the openrc files to source it and other variables16:40
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DRoBeRHello, folks, Since it seems like you are talking about auth... I have an issue with that. Running 2 instances of keystone on 2 nodes for redundancy and HAProxy configured in both nodes... it works perfectly if I only run one WSGI keystone at the time but fails if both nodes are running keystone at the same time.16:46
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vhosakotah ok16:57
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neutrolyHi all. I'm having an issue when creating my issue. I install 3 openstack node: 1 controller, 1 network and 1 .17:56
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neutrolycompute node17:56
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Bos3hi everybody :)18:54
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Bos3there is anyone available for help?18:54
Bos3I am setting up an openstack liberty infrastructure, with dvr enabled18:54
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Bos3and I am getting some very strange problems with DVR18:54
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mtecerBos3: Sorry, I don't use DVR.18:59
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Bos3thanks however :)19:00
Bos3someone else? i am getting troubles between the snat and the qrouter namespaces19:00
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Bos3packets are sent, but for some reason responses get dropped between those two namespaces19:01
Bos3and i am getting crazy debugging it19:01
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mag_gnushi can anyone help with openstack networking? can't ping external gateway ip.19:55
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Satya_we are using openstack kilo in our openstack cloud environment. When we try to download something we have observed that the network speed with external network is slow. We are getting network speed in kbps where as our network speed is in MBPS.  Before setting "ethtool --offload eth0 gro off" and "ethtool -K eth0 tso off" on VM eth0 interface and also on external network interface the speed was around 50 kbps. After setting the abov20:31
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Satya_but still it is far less than our network speed, can anyone help me20:37
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serverascodewith mitaka on trusty from the cloud archive, I don't seem to get anything logging to /var/log/neutron/l3-agent.log, anyone have any ideas. The daemon is running with the --log-file set to that file22:06
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Sam-I-Amserverascode: might try setting verbose=true in neutron.conf and restarting the l3 agent22:07
Sam-I-Ambut you should see something in there22:07
Sam-I-Amunless the l3 agent isnt actually starting due to a major config erroir22:07
Sam-I-Amif you're on ubuntu, upstart will try to incessantly restart the l3 agent, giving it the appearance of working, but it actually never starts22:07
Sam-I-Amlook for a PID that keeps changing22:07
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serverascodeSam-I-Am: that is it, it's restarted, thanks, must have a bad config or something22:08
serverascode:)22:08
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serverascodeare there docs for openvswitch + mitaka? I might just be missing where they actually are.22:32
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Sam-I-Ameh22:48
Sam-I-Amyou could look in the networking guide, but the specific deployment scenarios havent been updated for mitaka22:48
Sam-I-Amnot a whole lot has changed22:48
neutrolyHi all. How to deal with a DHCP issue on Kilo? My VM is unable to get private IP address.22:49
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schmotsHello all23:36
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schmotsWhen creating swift rings, does the part power/partitions equal how many containers you can create, how many files you can store, or some combination of those?23:38
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notmynameschmots: nope. at least not directly23:38
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schmotsits the one part of this I can’t find an explination on that makes sense to me.23:39
notmynameschmots: the part power basically determines how evenly your data will be placed across each of your drives23:39
notmynameso the primary value used to calculate the right part power is how many drives you have23:39
schmotsI thought that was how you caclulated replicas23:40
notmynameschmots: nope. replicas is for how durable you want your data to be (vs how much storage overhead you want)23:40
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schmotsok, I did thing that, I guess I just misunderstood your data placement explination23:40
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notmynameso 3x replicas is really good for durability, and not too bad for storage overhead. 2x is cheaper, of course, but not at durable. and for most people 4 or 5x replicas is just too expensive23:41
notmynameschmots: how big is your swift cluster going to be? how many drives (if not specifically, then order of magnitude)23:41
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schmotsIf you use expensive backend storage like NetApp or EMC could you get away with 1 replica?23:41
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notmynamesure. but that's a a *lot* more expensive than 3x replicas ;-)23:42
schmotsThe deployment I am looking at is going to use NetApp as a backend.  I was going to go with 2 replicas and put both iscsi luns in the same netapp volume and let dedup take care of the extra space use.23:42
notmynameand you basically turn off most of swift's features to do that. if you're set on using traditional filers, then just do that23:42
schmotsbut the part power is kicking my butt in comprehension.23:43
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notmynameschmots: and so you'd be lying to swift about what your actual failure domains are. so if some filer goes down, you lose at least availability (and hopefully not durability)23:43
schmotsso a better data protection method, could be 2 or 3 replicas, and spread the iscsi luns over HA pairs.23:44
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notmynameand if the netapp is at all putting those luns on the same actual drive, then you've just added a whole lot of complexity to be torpedoed by one drive failure23:44
schmotsso that a pysical group can fail, but the swift store doesn't23:44
notmynameright23:44
schmotsthats not how netapp does lun placement.23:44
notmynamewell, a better method would be to use 3x replicas (or erasure codes) in swift and put it on cheap whiteboxes ;-)23:45
schmotsthey are more like vmdk images spread out evenly over all the drives in a given raid in the aggregate23:45
schmotsNormally I would agree. But I have to use what I am told to.23:45
notmyname:-)23:45
schmotsI have ALWAYS just done 10 parts no matter what, but I have to admit I don’t really know what that does.23:46
notmynamenot the first time I've heard that about netapp23:46
notmynamehere's how it works23:46
schmotsits not netapp telling me that.  Its my client.23:46
notmynameright. that's what I mean. someone has a netapp box and tells someone else to put swift on it23:46
notmyname2**<part power> * <replica count> = <number of partitions>23:47
notmynameso 3x replicas with a part power of 10 gives you waht?23:47
notmynamehmmm....I've actually got to run to an appointment23:47
schmots3072?23:47
notmynameright23:47
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schmotsdon’t want to keep you.  Thank you for your time as it was23:48
notmynameso if you have 30 hard drives, you'll end up with 102 or 103 partitions on each drive23:48
notmynamethat's it23:48
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notmynameso swift will place objects into one of 1024 partitions, each of which are stored 3 times in the cluster23:48
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notmynameand the total of that is spread over the total drives23:49
schmotsah23:49
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notmynameso if you have 30 drives, then each partition is about 1% of the totoa23:49
notmynametotal23:49
schmotsotherwise you overload whats in a partition/disk23:49
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notmynameright23:49
notmynameif you have too small of a number23:49
schmotsand it doesn’t automagicly spread out file placement.23:49
notmynameif it's really too small, you run out of partitions on a drive23:49
notmynameif it's too big, you get too much filesystem overhead (ie you don't want millions of paritions per drive)23:50
schmotsmore than one file can go in a partiton though right?23:50
notmynameyes. many many many objects go in one partition23:50
schmotsok, so its a cost tradeoff between size and performance vs data spread23:50
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notmynameschmots: https://swiftstack.com/blog/2012/11/21/how-the-ring-works-in-openstack-swift/23:51
notmynameschmots: yeah. or close enough :-)23:51
schmotsthanks I’ll watch that now.23:51
notmynameschmots: and I've got to go. feel free to keep asking in #openstack-swift though23:51
schmotsand thank you.  I’ve been googling for a few days trying to understand this part.23:51
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