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| adun153 | Help! All of a sudden, "nova hypervisor-list" showed my compute nodes as down. The compute nodes are up, though, and doing a "service nova-compute restart" does not show any errors. | 09:28 |
| adun153 | Does anybody have any idea? | 09:28 |
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| adun153 | root@controller1:/var/log/nova# nova hypervisor-list | 09:34 |
| adun153 | +----+---------------------+-------+----------+ | 09:34 |
| adun153 | | ID | Hypervisor hostname | State | Status | | 09:34 |
| adun153 | +----+---------------------+-------+----------+ | 09:34 |
| adun153 | | 1 | compute2 | down | disabled | | 09:34 |
| adun153 | | 4 | compute1 | down | enabled | | 09:34 |
| adun153 | | 7 | compute3 | down | enabled | | 09:34 |
| adun153 | +----+---------------------+-------+----------+ | 09:34 |
| adun153 | why could they be in a down state? | 09:34 |
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| slaweq | adun153: check if they are connected to rabbit properly | 09:58 |
| slaweq | and check if nova-conductor is connected to same rabbitmq :) | 09:59 |
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| Lehtu_ | Has anyone crossed on this type of error on live migration --> Live Migration failure: Operation not supported: Selecting disks to migrate is not implemented for tunnelled migration | 11:26 |
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| adun153 | Hi, "nova hypervisor-list" shows my compute nodes as down. I do a "nova-compute" restart on one of my compute nodes, these are the last 30 lines: http://pastebin.com/gPAY8gp5 :::: Still, the compute node is down according to the controller. Any leads/suggestions? | 11:45 |
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| jklare | hey, can someone tell me if the neutron-vpn-agent in mitaka still replaces the neutron-l3-agent? | 15:48 |
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| adun153 | is there a way to get nova to cancel a "task"? | 15:53 |
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| Redcavalier | Quick question: Is DVR stable enough in the latest version of Liberty to be used on a production cloud? | 16:20 |
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| Sam-I-Am | Redcavalier: not recommended | 16:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | probably should determine why you need something like dvr | 16:28 |
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| Redcavalier | Sam-I-Am: Thank you. Actually, my boss wants a neutron HA solution on this setup, preferably active-active. I am familiar with both dvr and l3 ha, but I also know that dvr has been a mess for quite a while and l3 ha is more active-passice than active-active | 16:31 |
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| Redcavalier | So I'm basically preparing what I am going to tell him | 16:31 |
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| Redcavalier | That said, l3 ha is not perfect either, but I do believe it to be more stable than DVR, if there's 3 network nodes setup. | 16:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | neutron ha stuff, including dvr, only impacts self-service networks | 16:34 |
| Redcavalier | Yea, and we're currently running on self-service networks. Changing to provider networks would be a mess by this point. | 16:35 |
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| Sam-I-Am | all projects use self-service networks and fips if they need access from the internet? | 16:36 |
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| Redcavalier | I don't want to go into specifics too much, but I'm basically put in front of an openstack architecture that was already built and which I can only partially change, at least for now. | 16:36 |
| Redcavalier | pretty much. | 16:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | adding provider nets is fairly easy | 16:36 |
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| Sam-I-Am | getting vms to use them can be a bit more tricky depending on what they're doing | 16:36 |
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| Redcavalier | Yea, there's customers running on that setup. | 16:37 |
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| Sam-I-Am | dvr doesn't necessarily get you active-active either | 16:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | the cleanest bet is l3ha with some plan to use provider networks for new projects/vms that need connectivity from the outside | 16:39 |
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| Redcavalier | yea, I do agree that provider network would help me sleep better at night. Thanks for the pointers. That also means implementing configdrive for metadata, but I'm pretty sure I could convince him fairly easily. | 16:41 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you can use conventional md with provider nets | 16:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | not sure what gave you that impression | 16:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | however, config-drive removes an extra layer of cruft | 16:43 |
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| Redcavalier | well, I thought that provider networks just bypassed the virtual router altogether and connected directly to the outside network with a public IP, no? | 16:45 |
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| Redcavalier | Ah, but then I guess you would need a DHCP on the public network and that DHCP can provide regular metadata. | 16:46 |
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| Redcavalier | I think I'll go read again on provider network, I always worked with a very custom setup, so I need to get a refresher on some openstack concepts. | 16:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | well, they're not necessarily public ips | 16:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | a provider network just bridges to a physical network | 16:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | no neutron-only components | 16:48 |
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| Redcavalier | yea, so it can be a nated private network, then you add nating rules in your external router everytime you add a VM. | 16:51 |
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| Sam-I-Am | more or less. the physical network handles redundancy, routing, etc. | 16:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | nat is evil :) | 16:54 |
| Redcavalier | yea, well, I'm not exactlyin charge of the networking infrastucture, at least not yet, so this is something I'll let my superior handle. | 16:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | just take over | 16:57 |
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| Redcavalier | I will, in time. You see, I got this crazy awesome job where I got my own office, flexible schedules and, most of all, my opinion actually matters. The only downside is that they don'T fully trust me yet, so what I have access to is somewhat limited for now. | 16:59 |
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| Sam-I-Am | well then.... | 17:00 |
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| Redcavalier | yea, that's just personal stuff though, thanks for the pointers, I'm confident this will help me build a more stable openstack cloud. | 17:02 |
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| kindjal | I’m finding in Kilo that neutron-ns-metadata-proxy occasionally become unresponsive... | 18:24 |
| kindjal | I kill them, a new one is spawned a short time later, and it starts working again... | 18:24 |
| kindjal | is there a way to probe the metadata proxy process from the shell on the controller to test if it’s alive? | 18:24 |
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| Sam-I-Am | kindjal: not really. you'd need to test it from within a vm, or at least the namespace in which it resides | 18:26 |
| kindjal | what can I do within the namespace? | 18:26 |
| kindjal | ip netns $NS_ID … ? | 18:26 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you could see if the proxy is listening on 169.254.169.254 | 18:30 |
| Sam-I-Am | but it'll probably just give you a 404 unless you access it from a vm | 18:30 |
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| kindjal | shouldn’t I be able to somehow: curl http://169.254.169.254/2009-04-04 | 18:32 |
| kindjal | ? | 18:32 |
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| kindjal | in the qrouter-xyz namespace? | 18:33 |
| kindjal | ip netns exec qrouter-375960dd-317a-4dab-a47b-2a38b043ef00 curl http://169.254.169.254/meta-data/ | 18:33 |
| kindjal | (just hangs) | 18:33 |
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| Sam-I-Am | kindjal: are you using isolated metadata in the dhcp agent? | 18:43 |
| kindjal | I don’t know how to answer that. :) | 18:43 |
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| jidar | yea thinking about it, the lookup would fail from inside the netns | 18:46 |
| jidar | the source would be all wrong | 18:46 |
| jidar | from the netns: curl: (7) Failed connect to 169.254.169.254:80; No route to host | 18:47 |
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| Sam-I-Am | kindjal: is there a 169.254 address in the dhcp agent namespace? | 18:51 |
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| kindjal | do you mean, does something show up in: for id in $( ip netns | grep dhcp ); do ip netns exec $id ip a s | grep 169.254 ;done | 18:58 |
| kindjal | No. | 18:58 |
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| kindjal | but having killed the metadata agent, and seeing a new one spawn, metadata requests are now working again... | 18:59 |
| kindjal | I just want a way to spot when they break again before my users do. | 18:59 |
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| kindjal | this does it: | 19:02 |
| kindjal | for id in $( ip netns | grep dhcp ); do ip netns exec $id curl -s http://169.254.169.254 | grep -q latest || echo problem on $id ;done | 19:02 |
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| Sam-I-Am | but theres no interface on 169 in the dhcp namespace? | 19:03 |
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| kindjal | no | 19:09 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so you dont have enable_isolated_metadata enabled in dhcp_agent.ini it sounds | 19:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | no big deal, just makes things a bit more interesting | 19:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | as long as you can curl the md proxy url from somewhere, its good | 19:10 |
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| kindjal | right... | 19:11 |
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| kindjal | now I just need to map the “bad” qdhcp namespace where the curl fails to the metadata.proxy process... | 19:11 |
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| jidar | oh it works from the qdhcp namespace | 19:14 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the id of the namespace matches the network id iirc. | 19:16 |
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| kindjal | the metadata process refers to the router id, need to follow that up to network id, then to qdhcp id | 19:17 |
| jidar | it does | 19:18 |
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| kindjal | it seems that killing/restarting metadata.proxy doesn’t always restore service... | 19:51 |
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| doda | Hi, using cinder lvm with tgtadm as iscsi the ram buffer on the host machine gets filled with write operations, even though i have site write-cache = off | 19:53 |
| doda | any ideas? | 19:53 |
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| coderanger | What is the right way to override setting "reserved" (i.e. com.rackspace) image metadata? Rackspace staff did it for me once before so I know it can be done but I'm guessing they might have twiddled a bit in the nova database directly? | 21:43 |
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| coderanger | Is there an option I can use to force things even though it's a bad idea? :) | 21:44 |
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| coderanger | Okay, so property protection is governed by an ACL policy. So in theory Rackspace staff should an account that can bypass it but I can't do a --force | 22:08 |
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| coderanger | Man is the Glance code convoluted in some places :) | 22:09 |
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| law | how would I go about setting up multiple provider networks on one physical controller-node interface? | 23:19 |
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