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| BenderRodriguez | lol | 01:58 |
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| BenderRodriguez | this platform | 01:58 |
| BenderRodriguez | is stupidly hard | 01:58 |
| BenderRodriguez | to install properly | 01:58 |
| BenderRodriguez | what is wrong with you people | 01:58 |
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| John341 | Hi everyone, I'm trying to install liberty on CentOS7 as per the manual, I face a challenge under Neutron Verify, when I run 'neutron ext-list' on my controller I get, keystonemiddleware.auth_token [-] Unable to validate token: Identity server rejected authorization necessary to fetch token data in /var/log/neutron/server.log | 08:39 |
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| John341 | WARNING keystonemiddleware.auth_token [-] Identity response: {"error": {"message": "The request you have made requires authentication.", "code": 401, "title": "Unauthorized"}} | 08:40 |
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| John341 | Looks like I had missed out to add Admin role on my neutron user. | 08:49 |
| cool | hi all.. | 08:49 |
| cool | i am trying to install devstack + lxd | 08:50 |
| cool | facing <No module name found error lxd any suggestions | 08:50 |
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| cool | anybody know where i can find the nova drivers like libvirt, lxd, docker | 09:09 |
| cool | compute_drivers | 09:09 |
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| cool | anybody ?? | 09:16 |
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| bsv | hi, could someone please direct me to a resource describing how the notification system is working? I'm trying to debug events not showing up in a service (designate-sink), and I would like to verify that the notification_driver / notification_topics are configured correct. | 10:26 |
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| D4RKS1D3 | Hi someone knows if is possible extract the other host in our Availability Zone but not in this "zone", someone can help me? thanks | 11:35 |
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| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: CI is experiencing issues with test logs, all jobs are currently UNSTABLE as a result. No need to recheck until this is fixed! Thanks for your patience. | 11:39 | |
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| Qlawy | D4RKS1D3: no idea what do you want to achieve | 11:46 |
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| D4RKS1D3 | I want to get all my computes in openstack | 11:49 |
| D4RKS1D3 | the name, actually i can extract only the name of the computes associates to aggregate host | 11:50 |
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| D4RKS1D3 | but if one compute is in the "default" zone called nova | 11:50 |
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| D4RKS1D3 | i can not extract the name | 11:50 |
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| D4RKS1D3 | you know how to extract this information Qlawy | 11:53 |
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| haukebruno | D4RKS1D3, no sure if I understand you correctly: but maybe "openstack hypervisor list" will help you | 11:58 |
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| D4RKS1D3 | I want to extract the physical machines, not the virtual haukebruno | 11:59 |
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| haukebruno | D4RKS1D3, then "openstack hypervisor list" should do, it'll list you all compute-nodes | 12:18 |
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| D4RKS1D3 | Thank you haukebruno, I will do this | 12:19 |
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| Sketch | does each service actually need it's own user, or am i find with a single service user that is shared by all of them? (i'm aware this is slightly less secure) | 13:42 |
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| mrhillsman | morning | 13:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | Sketch: each service should have its own user | 13:54 |
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| Sketch | for what reason? | 13:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | you already said it | 13:57 |
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| Sketch | ok. so the answer is they don't actually need their own users ;) | 13:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | they dont NEED, but its a recommended way to do things | 13:57 |
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| tdasilva | good morning, has anybody run into this error with bindep? http://paste.fedoraproject.org/374081/14649624/ | 14:01 |
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| salv-orlando | HenryG: ping | 14:06 |
| HenryG | salv-orlando: pong | 14:06 |
| salv-orlando | aloha HenryG.. this is about the API-wg. As you might have noticed already I've not been doing my job as a liaison for a while. | 14:07 |
| salv-orlando | I was hoping to get back to it at some point, but I must give up on that task | 14:07 |
| salv-orlando | are you ok with being the only liaison? Or should I find first someone else? | 14:08 |
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| HenryG | I don't mind being the liason as long as I can delegate things. I wonder if amotoki could be a liason also? | 14:10 |
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| amotoki | HenryG: salv-orlando: honestly I am looking the work of API-WG but currently am not involeved in API-WG reviews and meetings. I can do it. | 14:12 |
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| salv-orlando | amotoki: thanks. I will therefore remove myself from the liaisons. Feel free to push a patch to add yourself. | 14:21 |
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| amotoki | salv-orlando: sure. or is it better I propose a patch which update the liaison. | 14:21 |
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| HenryG | thanks for stepping up, amotoki | 14:25 |
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| John341 | When starting my neutron linux bridge agent on my compute (liberty, CentOS7), I get: CRITICAL neutron [-] AttributeError: 'LinuxBridgeNeutronAgentRPC' object has no attribute 'state_rpc' | 14:28 |
| John341 | I've tried to follow the stadard installation guide | 14:28 |
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| Sam-I-Am | John341: whats 'rpm -aq | grep neutron' say ? | 14:33 |
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| John341 | Sam-I-Am: openstack-neutron-linuxbridge-7.0.4-1.el7 openstack-neutron-7.0.4-1.el7 python-neutronclient-3.1.0-1.el7 openstack-neutron-common-7.0.4-1.el7 python-neutron-7.0.4-1.el7 | 14:35 |
| John341 | Not sure if that helps? | 14:35 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yeah, just making sure its liberty and not something else | 14:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | its a common problem | 14:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | next thing i'd check is your config for typos and omissions | 14:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | most openstack services die in obscure ways with config errors | 14:36 |
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| John341 | Sam-I-Am: I'm not sure if this makes sense, but it should be the basic from the manual, please let me know if you see anything strange, http://pastebin.ca/3616499 | 14:39 |
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| Sam-I-Am | also want to look at neutron.conf, which the agent reads | 14:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | your lb config looks ok | 14:41 |
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| John341 | Sam-I-Am: http://pastebin.ca/3616508 can it be because there's no database section defined? :| | 14:48 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the neutron bits on the compute nodes dont need to access the db | 14:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | does the lb agent start on the controller node ok? | 14:50 |
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| John341 | Sam-I-Am: Yes. It is running, I checked the log too. When I do, neutron agent-list I can see the controllers lb only, not the compute-lb-agent | 14:53 |
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| Sam-I-Am | hmm, wonder if some dependency is missing from the compute node | 14:54 |
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| John341 | I'm kinda lost.. tried to follow the install guide only | 14:57 |
| John341 | Should I try to yum install all packages again? | 14:57 |
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| Sam-I-Am | well, no | 14:59 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i mean, it couldnt hurt | 15:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | but i dont think thats the problem | 15:03 |
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| John341 | Sam-I-Am: Nothing to do when trying to yum install the requirements, when I restart the lb here's what I get: http://pastebin.ca/3616528 | 15:11 |
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| John341 | The lb service restart is almost instantanous is this a very lightweight process? | 15:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | it claims its running? | 15:12 |
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| John341 | Sam-I-Am: not on the compute, I see some processes here, http://pastebin.ca/3616531 | 15:14 |
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| John341 | on the controller it seems to be running successfully and it is the log too | 15:14 |
| AndyWojo | Hey anyone know when the 16.04 implementation guide is coming out for mikata? | 15:15 |
| AndyWojo | I'm building out a new environment and want to use 16.04 | 15:15 |
| AndyWojo | Can I just use the 14.04 guide and have it be reasonably similar to 16.04? | 15:15 |
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| Sam-I-Am | AndyWojo: it should be close | 15:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | there will be no 16.04+mitaka on docs.openstack.org | 15:16 |
| AndyWojo | Why not? | 15:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | John341: i'm confused by your paste. there's no linuxbridge agent running on the compute node? | 15:17 |
| AndyWojo | There will only be a 16.04 guide for the next rev? | 15:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | AndyWojo: probably for newton | 15:18 |
| AndyWojo | Gotcha | 15:18 |
| AndyWojo | Makes sense. | 15:18 |
| AndyWojo | Thanks @Sam-I-Am | 15:18 |
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| John341 | Sam-I-Am: hmm, I try to start the lb agent on the compute node and it fails. Those are the processes I see when I do ps ax | 15:19 |
| John341 | Sam-I-Am: I did get a clue here.. I started manually by hand. hold on.. | 15:19 |
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| John341 | Sam-I-Am: http://pastebin.ca/3616539 | 15:20 |
| John341 | is it iptables missing or something? :| | 15:20 |
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| John341 | Sam-I-Am: iptables v1.4.21: seems to be installed | 15:22 |
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| John341 | Sam-I-Am: the documentation claims, "yum install openstack-neutron openstack-neutron-linuxbridge ebtables ipset" which is what I've run | 15:24 |
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| Sam-I-Am | hmm | 15:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | thats the right stuff | 15:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | so restarting it by the init script doesnt work? or by hand? | 15:26 |
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| John341 | no, sudo systemctl restart neutron-linuxbridge-agent.service, gives the same error. I just tried to run it manually the command I saw in ps ax to see if I could get some more clues. | 15:27 |
| John341 | I pasted the output, it seems to be complaining on something firewall? | 15:28 |
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| John341 | I mean God knows what this means, but yeah .. "AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'IptablesFirewall'\n"] | 15:28 |
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| Sam-I-Am | oh, i see your problem | 15:31 |
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| Sam-I-Am | in your lb config... IptablesFirewall > IptablesFirewallDriver | 15:31 |
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| John341 | Sam-I-Am: sorry where's that? | 15:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | linuxbridge_agent.ini | 15:35 |
| John341 | Yerps, something missing in there? | 15:35 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yeah, you need to change what i said | 15:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | typo | 15:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | according to what i saw in your config paste | 15:36 |
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| John341 | Oh! Driver piece missing youre right! how did that happen :s | 15:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | not enough coffee | 15:37 |
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| John341 | Yay! o/ it's connected and :-) now on neutron agent-list. Tons of thanks Sam-I-Am! | 15:40 |
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| Sam-I-Am | woot | 15:41 |
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| Sam-I-Am | see, little things give obscure errors | 15:41 |
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| johnavp1989 | Hi all I have some questions about provider networks if anyone is familiar | 15:55 |
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| Sam-I-Am | johnavp1989: such as? | 15:55 |
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| johnavp1989 | First is it possible to run ec2 metadata on provider networks? | 15:56 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yes | 15:56 |
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| johnavp1989 | Ok. Is there any additional configuration required for this. We are being told by our vendor that metadata will not work | 15:57 |
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| Sam-I-Am | just enable 'enable_isolated_metadata' in your dhcp agent, and run the metadata agent. | 15:58 |
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| johnavp1989 | ok thanks. that was my other question. can we run dhcp on a provider network but you seem to have answered that | 16:01 |
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| johnavp1989 | When I creating provider networks you set a segmentation id. Is this essentially a VLAN ID? | 16:02 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah | 16:02 |
| Sam-I-Am | provider networks are usually vlan type | 16:02 |
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| Sam-I-Am | only admins can manage provider nets, so you can use arbitrary vlan IDs, not just the ones in ml2_conf.ini | 16:03 |
| johnavp1989 | Ok and it will tag the traffic with that id? Are goal is to add multiple provider networks on the same physical network with different vlans | 16:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | yes | 16:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | same bridge/interface mapping, different vlan ids | 16:03 |
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| johnavp1989 | Ok this is great information thank you. It's how I believe it would work but our vendor is throwing me curve balls | 16:04 |
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| Sam-I-Am | which vendor? | 16:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | i like hearing about cluelessness :) | 16:04 |
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| johnavp1989 | Sam-I-Am: hrmmm... I was trying to be discrete :) | 16:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | thats ok | 16:12 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i just dont like the spread of misinformation | 16:13 |
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| Sketch | so, now that i solved my ldap auth issues, i am trying to start over from scratch with a pure ldap auth setup. however, i am unable to create the default domain when using ldap for auth. it returns the error: "Multiple domains are not supported (HTTP 400)", which seems odd since here are currently no domains at all. | 16:13 |
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| johnavp1989 | It's Mirantis. This is just info from there support team and they've never supported provider networks before. I'll be speaking with their engineers next week and I'll see what they have to say | 16:13 |
| Sketch | any ideas what could cause this? | 16:13 |
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| johnavp1989 | Just wanted to make sure I had my info right before we had that conversation | 16:14 |
| Sketch | i suppose the hacky workaround would be to leave the default driver as sql, create the domain, then switch it to ldap before creating users... | 16:14 |
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| Sam-I-Am | Sketch: is your domain config in sql or ldap? | 16:15 |
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| Sketch | i think the domain config should be in sql...i am only setting the identity driver to ldap | 16:19 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yeah, i think that makes sense | 16:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | what is this default domain and how are you creating it? | 16:20 |
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| Sketch | openstack domain create default | 16:20 |
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| Sam-I-Am | are there any existing domains? | 16:21 |
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| Sketch | nope | 16:21 |
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| Sam-I-Am | odd. where are the docs for this? | 16:22 |
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| Sketch | well, i was following the mitaka install guide...which at least mostly worked until i switched to ldap | 16:24 |
| Sketch | http://docs.openstack.org/mitaka/install-guide-rdo/keystone-users.html | 16:24 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yeah, i was curious about the ldap bits specifically | 16:27 |
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| Sketch | what i found that seems to work is https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en/red-hat-openstack-platform/8/integrate-with-identity-service/chapter-1-active-directory-integration | 16:29 |
| Sketch | i am starting to suspect that it actually uses the identity driver for storing domain info | 16:29 |
| Sketch | i wonder if i even need to reference a domain at all, if i only have one | 16:29 |
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| Sketch | hmm, nope, can't create projects without referencing a domain | 16:30 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so the config in that doc doesnt work? | 16:32 |
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| AndyWojo | Sam-I-Am: are you an openstack dev? Or just a guru end user? | 16:36 |
| AndyWojo | Just curious, people call for you by name in this chat usually :P | 16:36 |
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| Sketch | Sam-I-Am: the config works if i set identity driver to sql, not if set to ldap | 16:39 |
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| Sketch | if i set it to sql, create a domain, then set it back to ldap, things seem to work as expected | 16:41 |
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| Sketch | maybe i should file a bug... | 16:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | AndyWojo: a little of both | 16:45 |
| AndyWojo | Cool | 16:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | Sketch: could be a bug, or a lack of sufficient docs | 16:45 |
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| Sam-I-Am | AndyWojo: i mostly work on docs | 16:45 |
| AndyWojo | Cool. I'd like to contribute | 16:45 |
| AndyWojo | Once I get my production stack up | 16:46 |
| AndyWojo | I want to contribute in some way | 16:46 |
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| Sam-I-Am | we really need the individual projects to contribute docs, such as keystone explaining how to use ldap | 16:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | but operators providing details about scalable deployment architectures that work is also important | 16:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | operators seem too busy to contribute | 16:47 |
| AndyWojo | So I'm going to be using an IBM XIV backed block storage via Cinder, I see there's no real great documentation on that. Is that something I could contribute with? | 16:47 |
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| Sam-I-Am | is there anything in the config ref? | 16:49 |
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| Sam-I-Am | that would be about the only place i can imagine it right now | 16:49 |
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| AndyWojo | I found the block storage documentation pretty sparse in the implementation guide | 16:51 |
| AndyWojo | Maybe I'm not looking in the right docs though | 16:51 |
| AndyWojo | Maybe there's more specific doc in the cinder documentation | 16:51 |
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| Sam-I-Am | implementation guide? | 16:58 |
| AndyWojo | http://docs.openstack.org/mitaka/install-guide-ubuntu/cinder.html | 16:58 |
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| Sam-I-Am | oh, thats just the basic reference implementation... basically enough to get started | 16:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | it doesnt go into detail with other drivers | 16:59 |
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| AndyWojo | gotcha | 17:02 |
| AndyWojo | ill check out some more in depth guides | 17:02 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the only other place i can think of with specific cinder drivers is the config reference | 17:05 |
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| AndyWojo | yeah reading that now | 17:07 |
| AndyWojo | I guess I don't understand how the block storage works in general... do I zone specific storage to specific compute nodes? | 17:08 |
| AndyWojo | Say 1TB to compute1, and another 1TB to compute2? | 17:08 |
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| AndyWojo | Or can I zone 1TB to both, so that they both can use that storage | 17:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | by default, any compute node can use the 'default' storage | 17:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | there is such a thing as storage availability zones | 17:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | in which case you'd make some storage accessible to one group or another of compute nodes | 17:09 |
| AndyWojo | default storage is just the storage via the filesystems of the compute node itself right? | 17:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | well, default block storage | 17:10 |
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| AndyWojo | I'd want my instances to live on storage that is internal to the compute nodes, but scalable across different compute nodes so I can move them | 17:10 |
| AndyWojo | ah | 17:10 |
| AndyWojo | that is NOT internal | 17:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | cinder is not internal | 17:10 |
| AndyWojo | storage availability zones sounds like what I want | 17:10 |
| AndyWojo | right | 17:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | the idea there is a compute node dies, and your vm doesnt go poof | 17:11 |
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| AndyWojo | right | 17:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | the other option is ceph, which can use a number of underlying backends | 17:11 |
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| AndyWojo | if a compute does die, does it auto migrate to another compute node? Or how does that work? | 17:11 |
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| AndyWojo | I'm thinking no, you'd just deploy a vm with the block storage to just another compute node | 17:11 |
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| Sam-I-Am | if it dies it cant do anything, but it depends on the level of dies | 17:15 |
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| Sam-I-Am | if you need to reboot a host for some reason, you can evacuate all the instances | 17:15 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ideally you'd build your apps in a cloud-friendly fashion that isn't impacted by vms disappearing | 17:16 |
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| AndyWojo | sure | 17:17 |
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| AndyWojo | makes sense | 17:17 |
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| AndyWojo | thats why I'm building the self service network... | 17:17 |
| AndyWojo | So I can do LBaaS | 17:17 |
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| AndyWojo | Reading through the doc now.. so the default way to use cinder is to provision SAN storage devices to a compute node, into a volume group called cinder-volumes.. and then when you launch a vm, it uses those on the compute nodes.. | 17:27 |
| AndyWojo | gotcha | 17:27 |
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| Sam-I-Am | well... | 17:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | you wouldnt want a cinder-volumes vg on every compute node | 17:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | you dont want cinder volumes on compute nodes | 17:30 |
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| AndyWojo | Why not? | 17:37 |
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| AndyWojo | Or you put them on a dedicated storage node? | 17:38 |
| AndyWojo | Then how does the vm living on a compute node access the storage that lives on the storage node? | 17:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | when a compute node dies, you lose the data | 17:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | you'd want your cinder volumes using some redundant backend, not on compute nodes | 17:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | typically cinder serves things to compute nodes via iscsi | 17:40 |
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| Sam-I-Am | but it could be something else | 17:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | either way, it goes over ip | 17:40 |
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| Sketch | Sam-I-Am: I guess the way to do it is with domain specific drivers | 17:58 |
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| Sketch | http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/cloud/library/cl-configure-keystone-ldap-and-active-directory/index.html | 17:58 |
| Sketch | With LDAP as the default driver, if you don't first set domain_specific_drivers_enabled to "true," Keystone will prevent you from creating new domains (since it knows that the default LDAP driver can only handle the default domain). | 17:58 |
| Sketch | (though that doesn't really explain why it can't create the default, but hey) | 17:59 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mmkay | 18:02 |
| Sam-I-Am | well, if you get all this working... we could use some good docs on it :) | 18:02 |
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| AndyWojo | Sam-I-Am: all of my storage is via fiber not iscsi | 18:55 |
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| Sam-I-Am | AndyWojo: the cinder volume node would connect to the storage via fc | 19:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | i suspect you could have fc cards in your compute nodes too | 19:09 |
| AndyWojo | Oh so my storage node has the storage mapped to it over fc and then my compute nodes use iscsi to the storage node? | 19:11 |
| AndyWojo | All of My nodes have fc | 19:11 |
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| Sam-I-Am | if they all have fc, you might be able to just use it directly | 19:18 |
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| rooki | ping openstack: I have a VM based openstack deplyment and I need to split the VMs between 2 servers since I am coming up short on resources. I am just starting to figure out how to setup networking between the 2 servers so the VMs can setup properly. Has anyone else figured it out already ? | 19:41 |
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| twm2016 | I want to search across all projects of openstack for usage of a cli command in neutron, how would I do that? | 19:48 |
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| jesusaur | codesearch.openstack.org | 19:50 |
| twm2016 | awesome, thank you! | 19:51 |
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| Sam-I-Am | rooki: you cannot split a vm among servers | 19:54 |
| rooki | Sam-I-Am, I am seeing there are some real problems and wondering how to get past them.. it seems like 1 beefy server is what I need but can't have !! | 19:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | rooki: or multiple smaller servers with smaller vms? | 19:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | chances are, if you need 1 huge vm, it should run on hardware and you dont need openstack | 19:56 |
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| rooki | Sam-I-Am, I have already got the deployment with very few resources the compute node has 1 core since the entire server has just 8 cores.. so I can't even launch an instance | 19:57 |
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| rooki | So If I have 2 desktops and can split up the VMs and have a few controller and compute nodes on 1 and ceph nodes on the other it would be perfect | 19:58 |
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| Sam-I-Am | rooki: err, wait. are you talking about the vms running openstack components, not vms within openstack? | 19:59 |
| rooki | Sam-I-Am, Yep | 19:59 |
| rooki | 3 controller Vms + 2 compute VMs + 3 ceph Vms | 19:59 |
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| AndyWojo | wait your compute node only has 1 core? | 19:59 |
| AndyWojo | That's not gonna work | 19:59 |
| AndyWojo | why do you have 3 controllers? | 20:00 |
| rooki | I know Andy | 20:00 |
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| rooki | I wanted to try some HA stuff | 20:00 |
| AndyWojo | ah | 20:00 |
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| rooki | But its drowing like u might imagine | 20:00 |
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| rooki | I want to now setup a standalone ceph cluster in 3 Vms .. a separate openstack install and as required connect the ceph cluster to stuff !! | 20:01 |
| rooki | but I have 2 desktops with 8 cores each and 32GB RAM | 20:01 |
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| rooki | So I was trying to figure out the networking to be setup and my brain became noodly coz I am not good at much .. | 20:02 |
| rooki | So I thought surely someone else has hit the same reosource crisis like me | 20:02 |
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| Sam-I-Am | rooki: bbiab, phone | 20:06 |
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| poseidon1157 | Hi all. Trying to get something working with ovs. | 20:09 |
| poseidon1157 | Just trying to network two hosts <port><bridge><interface>—<interface><bridge><port> | 20:09 |
| poseidon1157 | I'd like both ports to tag their traffic access/tagged to a specific vlan | 20:10 |
| poseidon1157 | So I create internal interfaces, that works fine. I can see tagged arp traffic coming from either port, but they can't receive that given vlan? | 20:10 |
| poseidon1157 | Any reason I should be seeing that? | 20:10 |
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| potato_farmer | Hi. I am new to neutron. We have one public network available (a /21). Is it possible I can share these network with all the tenants? | 20:46 |
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| poseidon1157 | Under the admin pane | 20:46 |
| poseidon1157 | You can make it a public network | 20:46 |
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| potato_farmer | I tried by checking the "Shared network" option, but I don't know how to share the router | 20:46 |
| potato_farmer | When I assign IPs from the shared network, they don't route in or out. (since that tenant doesn't have a router) | 20:47 |
| potato_farmer | if I add a router to that tenant, I can't add interfaces to the "shared" subnets because they already have interfaces on the original tenant's router | 20:47 |
| potato_farmer | hope this makes sense | 20:47 |
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| AndyWojo | potato_farmer: is this a physical box? | 20:56 |
| potato_farmer | this is in openstack horizon Liberty | 20:56 |
| potato_farmer | in tenant one I have int -> router -> floating | 20:57 |
| potato_farmer | I was hoping to do the same for tenant 2 (same int, same router, same floating) | 20:57 |
| potato_farmer | so far I have been able to do in tenant 2: router -> same floating | 20:58 |
| potato_farmer | It won't let me add an interface to the new router using the same internal | 20:58 |
| poseidon1157 | So routers can be configured shared as well | 20:58 |
| poseidon1157 | Floating IPs cannot | 20:58 |
| potato_farmer | when I say floating I mean the network | 20:59 |
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| potato_farmer | not specific IPs | 20:59 |
| poseidon1157 | Oh, okay. Networks can be shared, routers can | 20:59 |
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| potato_farmer | I was able to share the int and floating networks earlier, but couldn't figure out how to share the router as well | 20:59 |
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| poseidon1157 | Floating IPs and instances are enforced against quotas, so they have to belong to a specific project | 20:59 |
| potato_farmer | and without the router, the second tenant can't route | 21:00 |
| poseidon1157 | I thought that was a checkbox on the router config | 21:00 |
| poseidon1157 | I'd have to check | 21:00 |
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| kklimonda | can I do an offline upgrade from juno to liberty, skipping kilo completely? | 21:43 |
| kklimonda | or will stuff break? | 21:44 |
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| Sam-I-Am | most likely break | 21:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | depends on what you're running i guess | 21:45 |
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| bsv | Looking for anyone else using Designate with Mitaka... | 21:46 |
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| Sam-I-Am | bsv: i havent used it | 21:52 |
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| bsv | no one have, it seems. | 21:55 |
| bsv | Sam-I-Am: and openstack-dns is taking the day off ;) | 21:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | lol | 21:56 |
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| Sam-I-Am | well, its late US time on a friday | 21:56 |
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| bsv | and it's midnight at my place, and I need to fix this before I can go to bed >.< | 21:57 |
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| bsv | only spend a few days on this single issue :p | 21:57 |
| bsv | going insane | 21:57 |
| bsv | In general, OpenStack configuration-documentation on .conf files are almost non-existing. | 21:58 |
| AndyWojo | Anyone going to the Philadelphia OpenStack meet up? | 21:58 |
| bsv | Some are better, most are worse :) | 21:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | bsv: which conf file? | 21:59 |
| bsv | any | 21:59 |
| bsv | well | 21:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | some are better than others | 21:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | i am not familiar with designate's docs | 21:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | but if its like most projects, its probably bleh | 22:00 |
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| bsv | yep, but still, the doc tells you what params to use... but not how things are tied to each other. Only way is to read the source. | 22:00 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah, thats not acceptable | 22:01 |
| bsv | and all the logs are throwing up wiht warnings about deprecated values | 22:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | which options/values? specific to designate, or general openstack ones? | 22:01 |
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| bsv | Right now, i'm pretty sure the issue that i'm having, is nova-compute not sending notifications to the correct queue. | 22:02 |
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| bsv | I have tried to find detailed information about how the notification system is working... no luck >.< | 22:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | what docs did you find at all for designate? | 22:03 |
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| bsv | i've been sniffing raw rabbitmq packets off the wire, trying to figure out if they indeed were heading for the right queue. | 22:03 |
| bsv | Designate is really bad on documentation, bad as in 'not up to date' | 22:04 |
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| bsv | if you find example files for .conf, it will use outdated non-valid keys and values. | 22:04 |
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| bsv | mugsie on #openstack-dns once gave me a direct link for a good example, but it has been lost in the eternal bit-heaven. | 22:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | where were the 'official' designate docs? | 22:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | kind of curious if i can light a fire somewhere to get them updated | 22:06 |
| Sam-I-Am | we cant have people digging through code | 22:06 |
| bsv | browsed the repo for the latest code, but not any wiser. | 22:06 |
| Sam-I-Am | openstack is not a science project | 22:06 |
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| bsv | Sam-I-Am: i'm using rdo packstack to deploy the environment, but each time I scratch and deploy, something new is happening... its not solid. | 22:07 |
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| Sam-I-Am | is it always with designate? | 22:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | i would have hoped packstack tested designate if they include it | 22:08 |
| bsv | When checking out from git, i use tags to pull a specific release, but still... stuff still change. Its very fustrating. | 22:08 |
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| bsv | I found an ansible-playbook for designate, ported it to use OpenBSD for auth. dnsservers, and it just worked. Tested it over and over again, then scratched the environment... and now i'm not getting any events from nova-compute. | 22:09 |
| bsv | very weird. | 22:10 |
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| ivase | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/designate/architecture.html | 22:10 |
| bsv | and it's prob. just some silly single/two line change, but the doc is very confusing about how stuff ties up. | 22:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | i feel like i saw a conversation like this not too long ago | 22:11 |
| ivase | acc to this one seems nova should talk with designate on api by default, it states Sink is optional | 22:11 |
| bsv | ivase: been reading that page and all subpages 1.000 times | 22:11 |
| bsv | yep, optional.... and I need that option :) | 22:11 |
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| ivase | bsv: wonder how is in your case i will try maybe tomorrow designate with mitaka | 22:11 |
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| ivase | i mean i am guessing because nova does not have the default way implemented? | 22:12 |
| bsv | it worked flawlessly, but not after complete reset of all servers. | 22:12 |
| ivase | you are ahead of me so maybe you know? | 22:12 |
| ivase | ah | 22:12 |
| bsv | well, again.. the documentation is not that good. | 22:12 |
| bsv | I found out that you have to change a few lines on the compute-noce | 22:12 |
| bsv | node* | 22:13 |
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| bsv | in the nova.conf and neutron.conf | 22:13 |
| bsv | telling it to notify on create/change | 22:13 |
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| bsv | but the notification does not reach sink. | 22:13 |
| ivase | do you have the sink installed or some logs | 22:14 |
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| bsv | Everything else in Designate is working as expected... except sink. I changed the source-code and inserted logging statements for super verbose logging :) But nothing happend, its simply not getting any events from rabbitmq | 22:15 |
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| ivase | wonder if you can use the default architecture instead of sink | 22:15 |
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| ivase | nova to create you the ptr records on boot | 22:16 |
| ivase | according to the designate documentation | 22:16 |
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| bsv | it is the default, sink is used for automatic creation of a-records with a predefined domain name. | 22:16 |
| bsv | look for nova:fixed | 22:17 |
| ivase | "designate-sink is an optional service which listens for event notifications" | 22:17 |
| ivase | so that means the doc is wrong then or? | 22:17 |
| bsv | no | 22:17 |
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| bsv | its correct, it is an optional service. And I need that extra functionality. | 22:18 |
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| ivase | but should this functionality be present without sink | 22:18 |
| bsv | the base functionality is working as expected. No problems. I have the 'DNS' tab in horizon, I can create, delete, update dns records, and its working fine. | 22:19 |
| bsv | BUT | 22:19 |
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| ivase | on boot you also should get the records | 22:19 |
| bsv | I want to automatically create an A-record for each and every instance spawned. | 22:19 |
| ivase | yes | 22:19 |
| bsv | that is what you use Sink for. | 22:19 |
| ivase | well as far as i understand this should happen even without sink | 22:19 |
| bsv | No | 22:20 |
| bsv | (well not entirely true, because work is being done to make it happen inside Neutron) | 22:20 |
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| ivase | nova you mean? | 22:20 |
| ivase | i mean neutron does not know instance stuff as far as i udnerstand the diagram nova should call designate api | 22:21 |
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| ivase | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/designate/_images/Designate-Arch.png | 22:21 |
| bsv | Code is being added to neutron, that will allow you to ex. bind a default domain to a network, port or entire projects. | 22:21 |
| bsv | that way, if you assign an instance to a certain network, it will automatically get a hostname with the network 'domainname' prepended. | 22:22 |
| bsv | really cool and useable. | 22:22 |
| bsv | because with nova:fixed or neutron:floating (configured with sink), you can only assign ONE default domainname to all intances. | 22:23 |
| bsv | no matter the tenant. | 22:23 |
| ivase | interesting yes that sounds great | 22:23 |
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| bsv | with the new neutron code, it is possible to assign a default domainname to each tenant. | 22:24 |
| bsv | (or network, router, port) | 22:24 |
| bsv | :) | 22:24 |
| bsv | But that is overkill for my use case right now... I only need sink :) | 22:24 |
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| bsv | /rant off | 22:25 |
| ivase | yes what i've seen in the past is just nova call designate ptr records, in case you can not make it work | 22:25 |
| ivase | you always can patch nova do that on boot | 22:26 |
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| bsv | I'm just fed up with OpenStack always behaving in a new way after every reinstall ;) | 22:26 |
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| AndyWojo | I'm writing a script that gathers: installed openstack packages, all openstack logfiles, running processes, openstack configurations | 22:27 |
| AndyWojo | for support gathering | 22:27 |
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| bsv | nice | 22:27 |
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| bsv | I was thinking about writing a utility to visualize the messaging communication between all the modules using rabbitmq. | 22:28 |
| bsv | to verify that configs indeed are using the correct path as expected. | 22:29 |
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| ivase | https://github.com/openstack/stacktach | 22:29 |
| ivase | it is already written | 22:29 |
| ivase | for nova/glance | 22:29 |
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| ivase | http://stacktach.readthedocs.io/en/latest/intro.html#how-it-works | 22:31 |
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| bsv | ivase: interresting | 22:36 |
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| bsv | ivase: just need it for neutron and designate too :D | 22:37 |
| AndyWojo | ivase: that's super complex for what I'm thinking of | 22:37 |
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| AndyWojo | This you'll literally do `curl http://path/to/script/openstack-support || bash` and it'll create a file in /tmp that includes logs, configs, running processes etc | 22:38 |
| AndyWojo | | bash* | 22:38 |
| ivase | bsv: maybe it is possible to change the queues that the app listen to | 22:39 |
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| bsv | it is, notification_driver and notification_topics (according to the doc), but they are out-dated. | 22:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | those config options changed in mitaka | 22:41 |
| bsv | yep | 22:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | they're standard nova config things though | 22:41 |
| bsv | to the oslo..blah..blah section | 22:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | not specific to designate, or shouldnt be | 22:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah | 22:41 |
| bsv | oslo_messaging_notifications | 22:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah | 22:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | then driver = something | 22:42 |
| bsv | driver and topics | 22:42 |
| bsv | but if I change it, you still get a warning for the 'topics' part | 22:43 |
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| bsv | still in git | 22:45 |
| bsv | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/designate/tree/doc/source/examples/basic-config-sample.conf | 22:45 |
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| bsv | The sink section is also missing from that example. | 22:45 |
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| Sam-I-Am | bsv: there's no autogen config option? | 22:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | i dont see one in tox.ini | 22:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'd file a bug | 22:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | static example config files are completely unacceptable in openstack | 22:47 |
| bsv | i once saw a 'advanced-example' somewhere. | 22:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | because they rot | 22:47 |
| bsv | indeed they do :) | 22:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | please file one | 22:48 |
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| AndyWojo | is there any way to tell without translating package versions -> release what release of openstack you're on? | 22:49 |
| bsv | don't have an account yet >.< | 22:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | bsv: on launchpad? | 22:50 |
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| bsv | yeah, at least, I dont think so. I might have one #) too tired right now. | 22:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | well, i'll keep the sample config up on my screen over the weekend so i'm reminded of this on monday | 22:51 |
| bsv | Been looking at this for 16 hour straight. | 22:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | feel free to pop in here and let me know if you made a bug. if not, i can make one. | 22:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah thats bad. | 22:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | time to hit a bar. | 22:51 |
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| bsv | lol I'll notify you :) | 22:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | speaking of bars... | 22:52 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i'm going to hit the sushi one to kick off my weekend | 22:52 |
| bsv | good idea | 22:52 |
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| ivase | +1 to both :-) | 22:53 |
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| bsv | yay! I found another example, this have the handler:section. | 22:58 |
| bsv | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/designate/tree/etc/designate/designate.conf.sample | 22:58 |
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| bsv | and this use the obsolete and non-valid variable %(domain)... great... | 23:00 |
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| bsv | for the record, domain have been replaced by zone | 23:00 |
| bsv | domain_id -> zone_id | 23:01 |
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| bsv | %(domain) -> %(zone) | 23:01 |
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| dsutyagi | johnavp1989, I wanted to clarify on the statement about Mirantis - "never supported provider networks". Mirantis supports such functionality in scope of generic deployments or Mirantis Services deployments, if base OpenStack release supports it. There are, however, limitations defined specifically for Mirantis's Unlocked Appliance solution, which | 23:43 |
| dsutyagi | is a product designed to be less customizable in favor of reliability and cost. | 23:43 |
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