| dmz | getting it workign isn't the problem | 00:00 |
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| dmz | the "nova migration-list" still shows all the failed attempts | 00:00 |
| dmz | i want to clear out that list without having to edit database directly | 00:00 |
| khushbu | but fix is released for this bug | 00:00 |
| dmz | yes it is but not on the system in question | 00:00 |
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| dmz | so that bug caused me errors | 00:00 |
| dmz | but i was able to work around it | 00:00 |
| dmz | but now nova migration-list is listting 20+ failed attempts | 00:00 |
| dmz | i'll just go manually clear the table in mysql | 00:01 |
| dmz | just seems like there should be a way to clear out old error messages | 00:02 |
| dmz | without manual mysql queries | 00:02 |
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| khushbu | post this query in bug | 00:18 |
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| Zer0Byte__ | hi | 01:03 |
| Zer0Byte__ | somone here | 01:03 |
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| AndyWojo | Zer0Byte__: I am | 01:39 |
| AndyWojo | but I'm also a newbie. | 01:39 |
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| ibravo | Simple question that I was not able to google easily: If I want to have my desktop join the IP of the tenant subnet, do I need to install a VPN server VM? | 02:34 |
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| ildar | hi everybody! anybody familiar with devstack here? | 03:53 |
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| ildar | q: to deploy we use `./stack.sh` . Then after reboot we shall we use just to start the services deployed? | 03:56 |
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| ibravo | ildar, I recommend you post that question on #rdo you'll get more answers there | 04:06 |
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| ildar | ibravo, thank you | 04:26 |
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| John341 | Hi! In the HA-Guide Glane is loadbalanced with HAProxy, RR. Can someone please explain how this works, when I store or retrieve an image, that is tied to a specific glance server, right? So how would this work if I have 2 glance servers(two separate physical, each running registry and api), and then I HA-Proxy the VIP address that all my services uses, if one of them goes, down, those images become unavailable? | 05:57 |
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| John341 | Err! Glance! | 05:57 |
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| sgran | shared storage | 05:58 |
| sgran | or use a replicated storage backend like swift | 05:59 |
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| John341 | sgran: I've a CEPH cluster, but RBD is block so mounting the same block multiple times sounds like a bad idea? Any ideas how to go about it? | 06:00 |
| John341 | I'm not sure if Glance can directory work with RadosGW? | 06:01 |
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| vern | John341: Glance can talk to radosgw in the same way it can talk to swift. however, I believe you are confused by how glance uses rbd. it doesn't mount a volume and store the images there, the images are stored in rbd AS image volumes. this actually gives you some extra abilities such as being able to do copy-on-write clones from glance images to cinder volumes | 06:31 |
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| John341 | vern: Does that mean that it is perfectly fine to have multiple Glance servers with the same settings using, RBD: rbd_store_pool=images ? | 06:50 |
| vern | yes | 06:51 |
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| John341 | vern: can you pls point me to any doc or guide that elaborates on this. I'm not sure exacly how this works. RBD generally blocks being mounted, just a block devices. How is this different and as per HA-Guide they round-robin the Glance queries among server pool, doesn't this create issues if two Glance servers are trying to access the same image concurrently? | 07:34 |
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| vern | John341: rbd is block devices, yes, but each glance image is a separate volume in the rbd pool. glance doesn't mount them | 07:37 |
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| John341 | vern: they are read only and getting cloned to the Cinder block? | 07:38 |
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| vern | John341: when you're using rbd for both glance and cinder, yes, it can be a copy-on-write clone | 07:43 |
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| John341 | vern: I think I found a good source http://docs.ceph.com/docs/master/rbd/rbd-openstack/ that elaborates a little | 07:44 |
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| adun153 | I have two VMs running on my OpenStack cloud. On 192.168.0.16, I have a daemon listening on 8082. Running "telnet 192.168.0.16 8082", I can connect to it just fine. From 192.168.0.18, I can ping 192.168.0.16, but running "telnet 192.168.0.16 8082" gives me a "telnet: connect to address 192.168.0.16: No route to host". Anybody have an idea? | 07:46 |
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| John341 | vern: Is it analogous with Cinder if I'm using RBD, I can run multiple servers running Cinder, and they've the same rbd_pool=volumes without creating any data corruption? | 07:47 |
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| vern | yes | 07:48 |
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| John341 | vern: oh okay, that makes things much easier, thanks! :) | 07:48 |
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| vern | adun153: sounds like a security group issue | 07:49 |
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| John341 | vern: the reason it works this way, is it because neither glance nor cinder actually modifies or writes any data on images/volumes, they just do the image/voume management, and nova does the rw access to the volumes? | 07:51 |
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| adun153 | vern: I already have a security group that addresses this: MyServer Group: [ Ingress IPv4 TCP 1 - 65535 - MyServer Group ] | 07:54 |
| vern | John341: when you create an image in glance, glance will create a volume in rbd with the contents of the image. if nova is configured to use rbd then, when you boot a vm, nova will use a copy-on-write clone of that volume as the instance's root disk where all writes happen | 07:54 |
| vern | adun153: maybe you have a firewall causing problems? | 07:55 |
| adun153 | So, as long as they have the "MyServer Group" security group in their settings, they should be able to contact each other without any hindrance. | 07:55 |
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| adun153 | vern: Running "iptables -L" on each server shows that the default policy is ACCEPT, and that there are no other rules. Any other ideas? :-/ | 07:55 |
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| John341 | vern: nova is still required to talk to cinder I guess, or does this work just between Glance and Nova? | 07:56 |
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| vern | adun153: next I would tcpdump to see if the destination server is even getting the traffic | 07:57 |
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| adun153 | vern: ah, will try that. Thanks! | 07:58 |
| John341 | I believe Cinder will still be required to interact with the RBD volumes | 08:00 |
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| alex318 | Hi everyone, there is a known issue that nova-cert and nova-scheduler won't start after a reboot (like here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1456474). Unfortunately, the website where the solution is told is down. Has someone a quick solution? Thanks! | 08:00 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1456474 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Nova-scheduler & Nova-cert stopped after server restart" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 08:00 |
| vern | John341: I believe, if you're using rbd, nova talks directly to rbd for the rbd-backed ephemeral disk | 08:01 |
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| John341 | vern: On the link I shared, under Cinder they mention "openstack requires a driver to interact with the ceph block devices..", I'm not sure how this works | 08:03 |
| vern | John341: that's for cinder volumes. unrelated to the nova rbd-backed ephemeral disks | 08:04 |
| vern | or at least not directly related | 08:04 |
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| vern | alex318: a copy of the site you're looking for is here: http://web.archive.org/web/20150915023724/http://stackblog.net/?p=14 | 08:06 |
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| John341 | vern: The Cinder is used for persistent datastorage I suppose if nova can access RBD ephemeral-disks directly? | 08:09 |
| alex318 | vern: great, thanks! | 08:09 |
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| John341 | vern: ah! I found this link which seems useful http://docs.openstack.org/ops-guide/arch_storage.html#table-openstack-storage under "Managed by" it sais that Nova manages the Ephemeral and Cinder Persistent Volume. | 08:13 |
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| Fenuks | Hello. Can anyone advice — during install I've created public endpoints in keystone with incorrect server address. I tried to create them with new address, but old ones are still there and some of them (though not all) are displayed in Horizon as public api endpoints. Is it safe to delete them? | 08:19 |
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| adun153 | Fenuks - Yes, no problem. | 08:29 |
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| athinkingmeat | hi, can't delete stuck volume Attached to None on /dev/vda . is there other way besides messing with database directly to remove it? | 08:40 |
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| Dw_Sn | someone can help with that ? http://docs.openstack.org/ha-guide/controller-ha-identity.html here it assumes that keystone is running behind apache as well ? and this is just a check command ? or I need to disable the httpd settings and let pcs run the keystone service ? | 10:02 |
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| SamYaple | Dw_Sn: from liberty/kilo forward you should be using Keystone behind apache2 | 12:58 |
| SamYaple | Dw_Sn: most packaged versions of keystone still used eventlet, so the "keystone" service will likely need to be disabled on your machine to setup apache correctly | 12:58 |
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| Dw_Sn | SamYaple: okay great, so I am using apache, now there is something not correct with the keystone HA guide .. simply it doens't work | 13:08 |
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| Dw_Sn | if it's behind apache, how come I am create a service using pcs / crmsh ? | 13:09 |
| Dw_Sn | to be used with pacemaker ? instade of just using HAProxy to forward the calls ? | 13:09 |
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| SamYaple | Dw_Sn: the ha guide is old and there is no one way to setup HA for openstack | 13:11 |
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| SamYaple | you can do it entirely without pacemaker | 13:11 |
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| Dw_Sn | SamYaple: how is that ? | 13:14 |
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| Dw_Sn | SamYaple: any recent and more advanced docs ? | 13:14 |
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| SamYaple | Dw_Sn: thats doubtful. but the thing is all the _openstack_ services are stateless | 13:15 |
| SamYaple | there are some caveats with some services, but for the most part just run multiple services and loadbalance with haproxy | 13:15 |
| SamYaple | MariaDB, rabbitmq, memcache those ha setups have guides all over the place online | 13:15 |
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| Dw_Sn | SamYaple: that is exactly what the guide is doing , the HA guide, setting up the pacemaker actually for haproxy " you could use DNS load balancing, keepalived or pacemaker " but then things gets very crazy with the HA docs. when they try to add keystone as a pacemaer service while it is already also added behind haproxy.. I did remove the pacemaker service already, but I was wondering why... | 13:18 |
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| Sketch | i used keepalived's VRRP instead of pacemaker...much simpler to setup. | 13:18 |
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| SamYaple | agreed, though that still has issues with split brain so it requires more watching in my experince | 13:19 |
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| Sketch | vrrp + haproxy is all you really need | 13:19 |
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| SamYaple | its not true fencing | 13:19 |
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| Sketch | yeah, split brain is still a possibility, but unlikely in my case where they're all attached to the same switch(es) | 13:20 |
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| Dw_Sn | SamYaple: well I am okay with pacemaker and ha ontop of pacemaker + corosync :) however I am still not able to think how I am gonna deal with cinder-volume since I wan't to have instances booting from volum to have HA on instances level | 13:20 |
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| Dw_Sn | SamYaple: do you use ceph ? or NFS ? | 13:20 |
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| SamYaple | Dw_Sn: you cant with standard lvm do HA. use Ceph and youll be much happier | 13:22 |
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| Dw_Sn | SamYaple: I was going to use volumes to VMs " cinder-volume will be running on a machine with local disks " , but it seems Ceph is the way to go | 13:24 |
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| SamYaple | Dw_Sn: yea ceph is the way to go for HA absolutely | 13:24 |
| Dw_Sn | SamYaple: okay I know this is out of context, but why you didn't use GlusterFS ? also how many nodes to you need to run a ceph cluster " min. " ? | 13:25 |
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| SamYaple | Dw_Sn: because glusterfs is bad in my opinion. and doesnt scale past 1PB (despite claims to the contrary) | 13:28 |
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| SamYaple | Dw_Sn: more importantly, it only provides file storage while ceph can provide block device | 13:28 |
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| Dw_Sn | SamYaple: okay, will give it a go :) so how many ceph node you need to get up and running ? 2 ? | 13:30 |
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| SamYaple | Dw_Sn: minimum of 5 disk nodes are recommended. minimum of 3 monitor nodes are required for HA | 13:32 |
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| SamYaple | for testing you can use as little as 3 nodes in total | 13:33 |
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| Dw_Sn | SamYaple: that is a lot :) | 13:36 |
| Dw_Sn | SamYaple: I will check then | 13:36 |
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| haukebruno | did anyone have some API performance hints while using multi regions? everything (either openstack CLI or Horizon) seems a bit slow. for example it takes ~10 seconds to list all 37 endpoints. in the logs I see that 1 endpoint requests takes 200ms, that should be ok. but is there maybe a way to bulk the requests instead of firing 37 single requests against keystone? | 13:43 |
| haukebruno | s/did/does | 13:43 |
| SamYaple | haukebruno: there are a few things taht could be | 13:43 |
| SamYaple | haukebruno: what token backend are you using for keystone? UUID? PKI? Fernet? | 13:44 |
| haukebruno | SamYaple, yep :( from keystone logs I see that the whole SQL query stuff is done in about 600ms. so, galera performance should be ok so far | 13:44 |
| haukebruno | token provider is fernet | 13:44 |
| haukebruno | we are on a fresh mitaka installation btw | 13:44 |
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| lbragstad | haukebruno do you have caching enabled in keystone? | 13:45 |
| haukebruno | lbragstad, not yet. could be a point here, but we didn't enable it in our _old_ kilo environments that are way faster (but only 1 region, now we run 2 w/ shared keystone) | 13:45 |
| TMM | I'm having some multi-region problems with metadata myself. We added another region and now metadata in both regions fails at the same time occasionally with a neutron authentication error. Restarting both nova-apis in both regions fixes it for a day or so again | 13:45 |
| TMM | has anyone else seen that? | 13:46 |
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| lbragstad | haukebruno there were several caching related fixes that merged into mitaka, as well as a couple backports | 13:46 |
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| haukebruno | lbragstad, I'll give that a try ;) | 13:47 |
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| SamYaple | haukebruno: lbragstad would know better, but there was a default in-memory caching thing that was _removed_ making memcahce a requirement for good speed | 13:47 |
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| lbragstad | haukebruno we also just backported https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327381/ to stable/mitaka | 13:47 |
| lbragstad | which improved performance according to several different environments | 13:48 |
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| lbragstad | haukebruno i'm not sure if you're installing from source or packages, but getting that might give you some better results, too | 13:48 |
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| haukebruno | SamYaple, lbragstad I see. we install from the ubuntu cloud archive, I'll check whether the patches made it into it so far or not | 13:49 |
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| SamYaple | haukebruno: garunteed they have not | 13:49 |
| lbragstad | haukebruno awesome - let us know if that helps at all | 13:49 |
| SamYaple | haukebruno: they wont until keystone tags a new minor. they may be in the staging repo though | 13:50 |
| SamYaple | lbragstad: what was the in-memory caching thing that was disabled option called? | 13:50 |
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| SamYaple | it was unstable and gave unpredicatable results | 13:50 |
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| lbragstad | SamYaple was it the caching of a particular API in keystone? | 13:50 |
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| lbragstad | I remember openstack/ansible (and devstack) had to disable catalog caching for a while | 13:51 |
| SamYaple | no. it had a huge impact on performance though. amybe around the liberty timeframe? | 13:51 |
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| SamYaple | i remember the verion number being 4.2.0.... | 13:51 |
| SamYaple | that must mean im thinking of keystonemiddleware | 13:52 |
| lbragstad | oh... | 13:52 |
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| lbragstad | yeah - that would make sense | 13:52 |
| SamYaple | "Deprecate in-process cache" whatever that was | 13:52 |
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| SamYaple | yea ok. that was deprecated in liberty, removed in mitaka. something like that | 13:53 |
| SamYaple | memcache_servers make it better again (at least for me) | 13:53 |
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| haukebruno | SamYaple, memcache_servers even for fernet tokens? | 13:56 |
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| SamYaple | haukebruno: with the patch lbragstad just posted, i believe so | 13:56 |
| lbragstad | haukebruno you can also configure your keystonemiddleware to talk to a memcached deployment | 13:57 |
| haukebruno | the patch isn't in the repo, as you thought ;) I hacked it in by my own, so I test again :p | 13:57 |
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| mrhillsman | g'morning | 13:57 |
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| SamYaple | morning codebaus | 13:58 |
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| mrhillsman | Yaple! how goes it | 13:59 |
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| SamYaple | pretty ok | 13:59 |
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| haukebruno | SamYaple, lbragstad: hacked in the patch + configure memcached did the trick from 10-14 seconds to 2-3 seconds. way better ;) | 14:00 |
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| lbragstad | haukebruno \o/ | 14:01 |
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| haukebruno | thanks folks \o/ | 14:01 |
| SamYaple | haukebruno: that sounds more right like. good luck! | 14:01 |
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| lbragstad | haukebruno glad you made some progress, drop us a line if you find anything else (especially performance-wise) | 14:02 |
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| TiDjY35 | Hello everybody | 14:02 |
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| haukebruno | lbragstad, of course I will ;) | 14:02 |
| TiDjY35 | I would like to deploy one second region in my current OpenStack environment. | 14:03 |
| TiDjY35 | Would you have the method? | 14:03 |
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| AndyWojo | Hey question: for networking, OpenStack creates bridges, and the IP goes on the bridge. But I have the base nic set to auto in /etc/network/interfaces | 14:51 |
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| AndyWojo | How do people have their networking setup on their controllers? I have two interfaces, eth0 and eth1... I put the management ip on eth0, and the provider network on eth1.. and they're static. When OpenStack creates bridges though, it puts the IP on the bridge. So when I restart the server there is the same IP on two different interfaces.. eth1 and the new | 18:27 |
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