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| impermanence | So the rackspace channel is dead...I have a basic hypervisor question. Would it be a huge faux pas to ask it here... | 01:49 |
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| impermanence | it's probably not complicated at all... | 01:49 |
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| impermanence | If I move a vm from one hypervisor to another in the same avail. zone is there any reason to think that other vms in that avail. zone would stop seeing that vm's ip? | 01:50 |
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| daMaestro | in basic AZ design, you would usually have different ip space per AZ; but it is completely possible to setup a network that is not designed that way | 01:51 |
| impermanence | so... | 01:51 |
| impermanence | here's the thing... | 01:51 |
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| impermanence | i have a service on a vm. that vm is obviously on a hypervisor. in prod. | 01:52 |
| impermanence | i want to move that vm to another hypervisor. in prod. | 01:52 |
| impermanence | would that present any obvious network problems? | 01:53 |
| impermanence | maybe AZ is wrong. I maybe am confused on that, but the situation I just presented is the question I'm looking to answer. | 01:53 |
| daMaestro | well that completely depends on the hypervisor configuration, the network layout and i suppose in this case how rackspace has configured your network | 01:53 |
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| daMaestro | sometimes you have an overlay network, which means your IPs are extremely portable | 01:54 |
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| impermanence | I should look at the subnetting of the vm I want to move and the vms on the hypervisor I want to move it to. that would be helpful. | 01:54 |
| impermanence | daMaestro: I see. | 01:54 |
| daMaestro | sometimes not. are you just using their dedicated server product or their IaaS openstack product? | 01:55 |
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| impermanence | dedicated. managed virt. | 01:55 |
| daMaestro | and are you running openstack? | 01:55 |
| impermanence | indeed, | 01:56 |
| impermanence | . | 01:56 |
| daMaestro | if not, what OS is the hypervisor running? there might be a more appropriate channel for you to ask this question | 01:56 |
| impermanence | openstack. | 01:56 |
| impermanence | err...no | 01:56 |
| impermanence | excellent question. one sec. | 01:56 |
| impermanence | managed virt is all vmware. | 01:56 |
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| impermanence | so esxi. | 01:56 |
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| daMaestro | well.. are you using openstack to manage your guests are is this just static virt on top of vmware? | 01:57 |
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| impermanence | oh fuck. | 01:57 |
| impermanence | idk. | 01:57 |
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| impermanence | let me think through this. | 01:57 |
| impermanence | what do you mean static virt? | 01:57 |
| daMaestro | i sounds like you should open a support ticket with them ;-) if it's esx you can vmotion a guest and as long as the vxswitch has access to the same vlan you should have portability | 01:58 |
| daMaestro | static virt means you named your pets (aka you didn't use openstack to launch an "instance" you built something on top of your hypervisor and it's a special snowflake) | 01:59 |
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| impermanence | daMaestro: i see. i think all I need to do is compare the subnets and if the ips look compatible I should be good. because in this prod environment all of the other nodes must be able to see this machine so if I move it to another hypervisor with similar nodes it should be good. | 02:00 |
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| daMaestro | impermanence, so how would you "move" it? vsphere? if so, head over to #vmware and someone will help you verify you would have access to the correct layer 2 network | 02:02 |
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| impermanence | daMaestro: excuse my delayed response. vmware is dead right now. | 02:11 |
| daMaestro | impermanence, at this point, i'd highly just opening a ticket; that's what you pay for right? ;-) | 02:13 |
| daMaestro | recommend* heh. wow. i should really pay more attention to what i'm typing | 02:13 |
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| impermanence | daMaestro: I would never nihilistically and without the proper insight move any machine, vm or turing, I'm just hashing through this. | 02:14 |
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| daMaestro | and we are super off /topic so it's totally faux pas | 02:14 |
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| daMaestro | vmware -> vmware not using openstack orchestration is a good conversation for #vmware | 02:15 |
| impermanence | daMaestro: you have been of service, though. i appreciate it. | 02:15 |
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| impermanence | daMaestro: yeah, i don't know the subtle details of the hypervisor config. | 02:17 |
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| impermanence | daMaestro: ah hah! | 02:17 |
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| impermanence | daMaestro: the vm i want to move has another vm of the same app on it as the apps that are on the hypervisor i want to move it to. i'm pretty sure this means i'm good. | 02:18 |
| daMaestro | impermanence, i'll join you over at #vmware and we can keep chatting | 02:19 |
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| impermanence | ty. | 02:19 |
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| impermanence | daMaestro: is there anyway to get hypervisor stats like "room left?" with nova? | 02:27 |
| daMaestro | impermanence, so, rackspace has built you a managed openstack private cloud. do you know if you have shared storage between your compute nodes? | 02:27 |
| impermanence | daMaestro: compute node is just a vm, yeah? | 02:27 |
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| daMaestro | well, it could be yes | 02:29 |
| impermanence | daMaestro: let's assume it is. | 02:29 |
| daMaestro | it sounds like you have a bunch of dedicated hosts running esxi and rackspace has put an openstack over cloud on top of esxi | 02:30 |
| daMaestro | or is the undercloud on esxi too? because then yes your compute hosts will be vms | 02:30 |
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| impermanence | daMaestro: honestly i do not have the understanding at this point to be able to answer. there's more to the engineering of this stuff than I thought, though, why is cool. | 02:31 |
| impermanence | which is cool, that is. | 02:31 |
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| daMaestro | so let's go back to basics. you have an openstack launched resource that you'd like to move to a different compute node? | 02:32 |
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| impermanence | daMaestro: not to sound totally idiotic, but now that I'm thinking through this, I'm not sure that the vm environment i've been thinking of is our managed virt. | 02:33 |
| impermanence | daMestro: because... | 02:33 |
| impermanence | daMestro: usually in managed virt I have to request resources. | 02:33 |
| impermanence | daMaestro: but in this env I can deploy nodes on my own. | 02:34 |
| daMaestro | impermanence, it would be super helpful for you to put onto a pastebin such as fpaste.org `nova-manage service list` and `nova-manage host list` | 02:34 |
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| daMaestro | that will really help us understand what you are working with | 02:34 |
| impermanence | daMaestro: no prob. one sec. | 02:34 |
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| impermanence | daMaestro: nova-manage throws command not found. Is that a different api or something? I just assumed that would work. | 02:36 |
| impermanence | daMaestro: aaaand...that probably means that i don't have nova-manage credentials either. | 02:36 |
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| impermanence | daMaestro: I know I have nova client credentials. | 02:36 |
| impermanence | daMaestro: cuz I regularly make those calls. | 02:37 |
| impermanence | daMaestro: but I've never used nova-manage | 02:37 |
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| impermanence | daMaestro: the OS I fire nova from is centOS. | 02:37 |
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| impermanence | daMaestro: I think we hit a wall here because I don't think I have nova-manage access. | 02:40 |
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| impermanence | daMaestro: I'm over it for now. I have enough info for support. Thank you for your insight. | 02:42 |
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| daMaestro | impermanence, no prob. re: nova-manage it's only available on certain nodes that have that role iirc; or just as a standalone with the correct creds | 02:43 |
| daMaestro | impermanence, but yeah, if it's a managed service, use what you pay for ;-) | 02:44 |
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| darkmike | I want sign the Contributor Agreement but the server has an error : "Code Review - Error Server Error Cannot store contact information" | 02:46 |
| darkmike | Someone can help me ? | 02:46 |
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| impermanence_ | daMaestro: did you catch anything I just wrote...I got bounced... | 02:47 |
| impermanence_ | daMaestro: I wonder if the VMware dudes bounced me... | 02:48 |
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| impermanence_ | daMaestro: anyway, managed or not, think about this. | 02:48 |
| impermanence_ | daMaestro: a node: 10.0.0.3 | 02:49 |
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| daMaestro | impermanence_, naw no one would bounce you for asking questions ;-) | 02:49 |
| impermanence_ | daMaestro: another node: 10.0.0.4 | 02:49 |
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| impermanence_ | daMaestro: well...I was borderline sarcastic for a moment with jamesd, but it was quite good natured... | 02:49 |
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| impermanence_ | daMaestro: maybe it was my vpn. | 02:50 |
| impermanence_ | daMestro: anyway, back to the nodes. | 02:50 |
| daMaestro | impermanence_, worst that would happen is a kban from a channel. anyways, when talking IP it's more appropriate to help us understand subnetting too, so use full CIDR | 02:50 |
| impermanence_ | daMaestro: the two nodes aforementioned: same hypervisor. | 02:51 |
| impermanence_ | daMaestro: oh, okay. | 02:51 |
| impermanence_ | daMaestro: shit, I don't even know it b/c it isn't...well, I guess I can go to the servers and get it. | 02:51 |
| daMaestro | i'd gamble 10.0.0.3/24, but it's never good to make an ASSuME ;-) | 02:51 |
| impermanence_ | daMaestro: well let's assume /24 | 02:52 |
| impermanence_ | daMaestro: I'll lock that down later. | 02:52 |
| impermanence_ | daMaestro: but I'm fairly certain 24 | 02:52 |
| impermanence_ | daMaestro: anyway, now... | 02:52 |
| impermanence_ | daMaestro: two other nodes. different hypervisor. ip's are like 10.0.0.52 /24, 10.0.0.53 /24. | 02:53 |
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| impermanence_ | daMaestro: nodes 2, 3 and 4 need to see node 1. | 02:53 |
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| impermanence_ | daMaestro: I'm fairly certain I'm going to be able to move node 1 to the hypervisor atop which nodes 3 and 4 sit. | 02:54 |
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| impermanence_ | daMaestro: with no problems. | 02:54 |
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| daMaestro | so you can generally assume (again don't do it, be sure) that if you have the same subnet available on multiple compute nodes, that node knows how to make it work. it's a very highly likely situation that each esxi node has access to the same vlans | 02:55 |
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| impermanence_ | daMaestro: I'm quite certain actually because node 3 actually has CIDR of 10.0.1.3 /24 and it can see node 1. | 02:56 |
| daMaestro | that or an overlay, which means you should have ip portability and can do the migrate | 02:56 |
| daMaestro | well.. no, 10.0.1.3/24 can not talk to 10.0.0.3/24 without a router | 02:56 |
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| impermanence_ | daMaestro: I have to log off now because I have an engagement, but I appreciate your support. Openstack heads are good heads. I met a very helpful one a week or two ago at a conference. | 02:58 |
| impermanence_ | daMaestro: until the next time. have a good "time" whatever zone you're in. | 02:58 |
| daMaestro | impermanence_, cheers, best luck | 02:59 |
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| adun153 | In order for it to work properly | 13:22 |
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| Anand | Hello | 20:48 |
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| RageLtMan | Anyone around who can assist with ML2's phynet_mtu setting? Seems neutron is ignoring it, and while our internal nets are over 9K, its setting external networks to 9K as well which doesnt quite pan out | 21:08 |
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| RageLtMan | Our private networks are VXLAN and our public are flat, when i run "ip netns list | awk '/qrout/{print$1}' | xargs -i ip netns exec {} ifconfig | grep MTU" all the interfaces return MTU 1500, when only the public-facing ones should. | 21:21 |
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| RageLtMan | if i set network_device_mtu in neutron.conf to 9k, then they all come back at 9k. basically, its ignoring the physnet mtu settings | 21:22 |
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