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vern | fishcooker: the documentation about VM resizing is here http://docs.openstack.org/user-guide/cli_change_the_size_of_your_server.html and here http://docs.openstack.org/user-guide/dashboard_launch_instances.html#manage-an-instance | 00:23 |
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vern | if you feel the docs are not clear enough, please feel free to submit clarifications | 00:23 |
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dmz | downgraded my client and my http/https glance thing went away; darn code | 00:36 |
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Sam-I-Am | dmz: file a bug? | 00:39 |
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dmz | Sam-I-Am, i think it was fixed from what i'm seeing, its my config causing problems again :) i need to upgrade anyway | 00:53 |
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amitry | anyone having issues submitting talks? one of our team just tried and got "Call for speaker closed!" | 01:08 |
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amitry | looks like others having issues as well https://twitter.com/marktvoelker/status/753395697202757632 | 01:09 |
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amitry | fixed now | 01:11 |
amitry | thanks | 01:11 |
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cool | hi all | 07:35 |
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cool | just for small confirmation why openstack using linux bridge to connect vm | 07:36 |
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cool | if we use openvswitch bridge also vm is connecting to linux bridge in compute node. what is the reason behind this | 07:37 |
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cool | anybody on?? | 07:42 |
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janki | cool: the reason behind using linux bridge is to support iptables | 08:36 |
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yankcrime | cool: yup, iptables rules applied directly on tap devices connected into an ovs port don't play well together | 08:38 |
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SH__ | Hi, yesterday we had to restart our rabbitmq cluster, after this our floating ip's have become unreachable | 08:40 |
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SH__ | We do see that all our ports are down | 08:43 |
SH__ | does anyone know how we can get this fixed again? | 08:44 |
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MeirongLiu | hi.. I have question about the usage of oslo.conf | 08:47 |
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MeirongLiu | when I added a new option in neutron.conf... do I have to register the option in code to be able to read the option value from neutron.conf | 08:48 |
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cool | thanks janki and yankcrime | 09:03 |
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cool | just for confirmation openstack qrouter will act as both switch and router..?? | 09:21 |
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cool | qrouter which created inside network namespace when we are creating router in our network | 09:22 |
yankcrime | qrouter namespaces act as routers, i.e purely l3 | 09:22 |
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cool | suppose when my two vm with same network wants to communicate means what will be packet flow | 09:24 |
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cool | yankcrime.. ^^^ any suggestions.? | 09:24 |
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yankcrime | if they're on the same subnet then it'll be handled in ovs (if that's what you're using) | 09:25 |
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cool | yankcrime if am having vm1->linuxbridge-> br-int-> br-tun ; i want to knoe packet flow in both scenario same compute node and different compute node. | 09:30 |
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cool | if its different network it will go via qrouter. but if it is in the same network how will be the flow.? small confusion. | 09:31 |
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liza123 | Hey all. Having issues connecting my instances with the internet. Assigned them a floating IP, but the issue still persists. What should I look into? | 09:32 |
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liza123 | (They can ping to each other, but not to nameservers such as 8.8.8.8 or websites like openstack.org) | 09:32 |
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yankcrime | cool: it'll end up on whichever compute node hosts vm2, with exactly the reverse flow | 09:33 |
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yankcrime | you've a set of gre (or vxlan) tunnels established between every compute node (and every network node, depending on your configuration) | 09:34 |
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yankcrime | this encapsulates all your network traffic, and ovs maintains a database of every interface in every port | 09:35 |
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yankcrime | (as well as all the openflow rules so ensure l2 segregation between projects / tenants) | 09:36 |
yankcrime | so basically it's functioning like one big distributed virtual switch... as its name suggests ;) | 09:36 |
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yankcrime | cool: there's something of a walkthrough here - http://dischord.org/2015/03/09/troubleshooting-openstack-neutron-networking-part-one/ | 09:37 |
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cool | yankcrime thanks for ur valuable answers.. :) if its in same compute node means the packet will go upto br-int or br-tun am i correct.?? | 09:43 |
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vbel1 | hello, does anyone use drv feature? is it possible to run dvr_snat on computes (in ha mode as well)? Docs tell that dvr_snat+l3_ha agents should be on controllers while dvr agents on computes | 09:48 |
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yankcrime | cool: i think it'll get as far as br-int | 09:51 |
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cool | yankcrime. now if two vm are in same network but different compute node means how it will communicate. sorry for asking more questions. | 09:54 |
yankcrime | cool: i thought that's one i'd answered.... | 09:54 |
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cool | yankcrime can i ping private becoz i dont want to confuse all people | 09:56 |
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cool | yankcrime: i just did some picture regarding this, kindly in your free time tell me the flow. https://ibin.co/2o17pkgA6Ipu.jpg | 10:06 |
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yankcrime | cool: draw a line from eth0 on compute node 1 to eth0 on compute node 2, and that's your traffic flow for instances on the same network | 10:07 |
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cool | yankcrime: nice and very thanks dude | 10:08 |
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yankcrime | cool: no problemo | 10:08 |
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fishcooker | i've just got this error message https://bpaste.net/show/f1d3c7c6bfd1 | 10:41 |
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jimmy_ | Does anyone have experience with creating images with the compute API? http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/compute/?expanded=create-image-createimage-action-detail,stop-server-os-stop-action-detail#create-image-createimage-action | 11:37 |
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jimmy_ | It says "After you make this request, you typically must keep polling the status of the created image to determine whether the request succeeded." but how do I find the ID of the created image if the request doesnt return a response? | 11:38 |
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jimmy_ | found the answer to my question here https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/8d2d537ca5fa85b306a2eaa8262714092fb5525b/nova/api/openstack/compute/servers.py#L1048 .It's not documented in the API docs | 11:58 |
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zarkone | hello! I'm currently deal with keystone configured to use AD (with ldap backend). In general, how could I switch back to local database and re-create users and etc? Sorry for such broad question... | 13:06 |
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Egyptian[Web] | hello - does neutron have any overhead? i am seeing 10gb network performance from host to host, docker container to docker container, but when the containers are a nova instance i am getting 1gb. so i am curious and concerned. could someone help me out here? | 13:18 |
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mrkelley | I assuming you | 13:26 |
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mrkelley | I assume you are asking about network overhead? | 13:26 |
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Egyptian[Web] | mrkelley: yes | 13:35 |
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mrkelley | Neutron definitely includes network overhead. I'm not sure how much is on th physical ethernet cables, though. it depends on where your VMs are hosted within your stack. | 13:38 |
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mrkelley | But if you start examining the path of a given packet within your openstack environment, you'll see that it takes many more hops than you would expect from a bare metal packet. | 13:39 |
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Egyptian[Web] | mrkelley: agree on the hops. a container on the external subnet has better network performance than on the internal (6gb) , my objection if you will is .. i am only getting 10% of the bandwidth at 1gb. i would like to improve that performance | 13:42 |
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mrkelley | Ah. You're comparing provider networks with self-provisioned networks? | 13:45 |
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Egyptian[Web] | mrkelley: it was only for a comparison. i need tenant containers to have improved network performance | 13:48 |
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mrkelley | Right, I wa just making sure understand what you're asking about. | 13:49 |
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catintheroof | hi guys, quick question. does the openstack cli supports to handle domain-specific configuration ? how do i change those configs after i run keystone-manage domain_config_upload ?? | 14:17 |
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Egyptian[Web] | mrkelley: any input? | 14:18 |
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mrkelley | You'll get better performance between containers within a specific vm, because the traffic doesn | 14:24 |
mrkelley | doesnt' leave that vm. | 14:24 |
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mrkelley | but if you have container a on server a and container b on server b, the network latency will be as high as you are seeing now. | 14:25 |
mrkelley | the reason is the processes required by Neutron's SDN structure. | 14:25 |
mrkelley | It's not designed for optimal performance, as far as I know. Instead, it | 14:26 |
mrkelley | it is designed for network isoation. | 14:26 |
mrkelley | So it introduces significant network overhead. Much greater network overhead than you would find with provider only networking. | 14:26 |
mrkelley | Does that answer your question? | 14:27 |
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tl__ | ". The external network shares the same subnet and gateway associated with the physical network connected to the external interface on the network node. You should specify an exclusive slice of this subnet for router and floating IP addresses to prevent interference with other devices on the external network." How do I find this subnet IP address? I used the open labs installer. | 14:34 |
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Egyptian[Web] | mrkelley: yes. so you are saying the bottle neck here is neutron. would using a different sdn aka plugin like plumnet or midonet or whatever? (my next question would be which is best or at least better ?) | 14:45 |
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mrkelley | I can | 14:50 |
mrkelley | I can't help you there. I don't kknow anything about either of those. | 14:50 |
Egyptian[Web] | np .. cool | 14:50 |
mrkelley | Also, I can't use this keyboard very well. ;) | 14:50 |
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andrewbogott | I see that "openstack quota show <project>" shows me the quota limits for a project. Is there a comparable commandline to show how close a given project is to using its quota? Or even to show usage at all? | 14:59 |
andrewbogott | All I see is 'openstack usage' which seems to show cumulative usage, which is a different thing | 15:00 |
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nan1 | having a big problem here... when trying to run "/bin/sh -c "keystone-manage db_sync" keystone" | 15:04 |
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nan1 | error message is: WARNING oslo_db.sqlalchemy.engines [-] SQL connection failed. 10 attempts left. | 15:04 |
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fritchie | is it possible to assign a vm to a scheduler affinity group after it has been created? | 15:05 |
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andrewbogott | nan1: I think that keystone-manage has its own logfile; I'd look in there to see what the issue is with mysql connection | 15:07 |
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nan1 | andrewbogott: thank you. i'll look there | 15:08 |
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AndyWojo | Anyone have any ideas on how to offer tiers of storage to Horizon users? I.E a user picks a 'flavor' or something similar that is backed by a particular storage subsystem. I have 5 different kinds of storage I want to offer to users | 15:09 |
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riccardo | hi | 15:10 |
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riccardo | I would like to build a new feature for Nova. Should I fork my own Nova copy on GitHub? | 15:11 |
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nan1 | andrewbogott: logs weren't helpful sadly | 15:14 |
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andrewbogott | nan1: keystone.conf has log settings so you could turn unverbose/debug. I don't know if that affects the -manage log or not | 15:15 |
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stevemar | andrewbogott: it should | 15:20 |
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nan1 | andrewbogott: stevemar: the log_dir points directly to /var/log/keystone which only contains the keystone-manage.log file | 15:23 |
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nan1 | andrewbogott: stevemar: if it helps, here is the output of the error: http://paste.openstack.org/show/532828/ | 15:25 |
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nan1 | andrewbogott: stevemar: is it okay that I'm installing it on the controller (i.e. localhost in this config: "connection = mysql://keystone:PASSWD@localhost/keystone")? | 15:36 |
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andrewbogott | nan1: that's what I would do. it seems most likely that your mysql grants aren't set up, but that's a stab in the dark. | 15:37 |
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nan1 | andrewbogott: oh my gosh I just figured it out.... | 15:38 |
andrewbogott | great! | 15:38 |
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nan1 | andrewbogott: it turns out that this is the solution: "connection = mysql://keystone:PASSWD@<name_of_server_in_host_file>/keystone" | 15:38 |
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nan1 | andrewbogott: thank you for your help | 15:39 |
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derxleben | has anyone successfully updated kilo from 1.1 to 1.2? | 16:34 |
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linuxuser | Testing one two three | 16:51 |
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Sketch | considering kilo is EOL, it seems like you would do better to upgrade it to something newer? | 16:54 |
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haukebruno | Sketch, +1 | 17:18 |
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_derx | anyone have any issues updating kilo from 1.1 to 1.2? | 18:24 |
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vern | _derx: you probably won't find many people using kilo nowadays. as Sketch mentioned, it's end-of-life | 18:26 |
_derx | sorry, missed his comment | 18:26 |
_derx | dagger | 18:26 |
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_derx | i've inherited a stack and having issues with newly deployed 1.2 boxes | 18:27 |
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mrkelley | Would it be safe to assume your company won't let you migrate to Liberty or Mitaka at present? | 18:30 |
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_derx | looking into it now. The boxes are in a COLO so it won't be trivial to stand up a second env and migrate everything over. | 18:33 |
mrkelley | What's the underlying OS? | 18:33 |
_derx | CentOS 7.2 | 18:33 |
mrkelley | Hm. One possible approach, don't know if this is viable for you or not, is to containerize the target environment. Once that | 18:34 |
mrkelley | is done, migration is easier. | 18:34 |
yankcrime | _derx: we've certainly seen some issues, i.e broken ceilometer packages that are then marked wontfix | 18:35 |
yankcrime | you'll probably have to be a bit more specific | 18:35 |
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yankcrime | vern: at last count (april operator's survey), kilo was still the most popular release | 18:36 |
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yankcrime | so actually, it's the opposite of what you suggest ;) | 18:36 |
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_derx | yankcrime: i recently added three compute nodes to our existing stack 1.1 stack, not knowing that 1.2 was what I was installing. Everything works on those hosts except taking snapshots. | 18:37 |
yankcrime | what's the error exactly? | 18:37 |
yankcrime | again, you'll need to be specific | 18:37 |
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_derx | there is a bug out there showing that the newer version of some python packages are to blame - but I can't downgrade cause all of the 1.1 repos are gone. | 18:37 |
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Sketch | yankcrime: kilo wasn't EOL until may ;) | 18:39 |
yankcrime | _derx: whose packages? | 18:39 |
_derx | python-requests and its dependencies | 18:39 |
yankcrime | from whose repos? rdo? | 18:40 |
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_derx | yes, rdo | 18:40 |
yankcrime | Sketch: the death of kilo has been greatly exaggerated ;) | 18:40 |
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Sketch | i notice that it's still under full support by mirantis until 9/30 | 18:42 |
Sketch | and they have limited support for another 2 years | 18:42 |
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potato_farmer | Anyone run into issues using curl on a centos image for openstack? I launched an instance and when i try curl -v https://ANYURL I get "curl: (77) Problem with the SSL CA cert (path? access right?)". I tried several versions of centos from centos cloud repo. | 18:43 |
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vern | yankcrime: I meant in the context of this channel. you are right, though, and I appreciate the correction | 19:08 |
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potato_farmer | Anyone run into issues using curl on a centos image for openstack? I launched an instance and when i try curl -v https://ANYURL I get "curl: (77) Problem with the SSL CA cert (path? access right?)". I tried several versions of centos from centos cloud repo. | 19:09 |
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mrkelley | https requires an SSL certificate. If you're accessing a URL without a cert, you are guaranteed to get that result. | 19:10 |
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vern | potato_farmer: doesn't sound openstack specific. sounds like an issue with curl and secure urls. I would check non-secure urls (http) and if the problem is https specific, make sure you're connecting to a site with a valid cert, and make sure you have the latest cacert for your curl install | 19:12 |
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potato_farmer | vern, openssl works fine. same centos image on Openstack Juno works, but on Openstack Liberty fails | 19:14 |
potato_farmer | ubuntu works fine on both Juno and Liberty | 19:14 |
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potato_farmer | these are the stock images from centos / ubuntu | 19:14 |
potato_farmer | only difference is for juno I use nova networking and liberty I use neutron, but that shouldn't matter at all | 19:14 |
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vern | you are correct, that shouldn't matter. if what you are saying is that on a system with juno installed, you can curl that url, but on a system with liberty installed, you can't curl the url, then the problem is most likely not with openstack but the platform openstack has been installed on | 19:15 |
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vern | what url are you trying to curl? | 19:16 |
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potato_farmer | https://google.com | 19:16 |
potato_farmer | If you have openstack, and you grab the latest centos 7 image, and launch an instance, you may run into the same issue | 19:16 |
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potato_farmer | *OpenStack Liberty | 19:16 |
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vern | so you are curling from within a vm? | 19:17 |
potato_farmer | yes | 19:17 |
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vern | and with the exact same centos 7 image on juno, the curl worked? | 19:17 |
potato_farmer | yes | 19:18 |
potato_farmer | kind of maddening | 19:18 |
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vern | indeed. just tested it. works for me. where'd you get the centos 7 image. I can test with the same one | 19:19 |
potato_farmer | http://cloud.centos.org/centos/7/images/CentOS-7-x86_64-GenericCloud-1606.qcow2 | 19:22 |
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phealy | afternoon, all. I have a quick question - does the HAProxy LBaaSv2 setup support l7 policies in mitaka, or are those only supported with octavia? | 19:23 |
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potato_farmer | vern, any luck? | 19:48 |
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cr0wrx | anyone know how to restrict access to a provider / external network based on tenant? | 20:04 |
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potato_farmer | Anyone successfully install a Generic CentOS image on OpenStack Liberty that can test "curl -v https://google.com" for me? | 20:09 |
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cr0wrx | what do you mean generic? | 20:13 |
cr0wrx | centos cloud images work fine for me in liberty | 20:13 |
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potato_farmer | cr0wrx, can you try curl -v https://google.com | 20:15 |
potato_farmer | I use this image: http://cloud.centos.org/centos/7/images/CentOS-7-x86_64-GenericCloud-1606.qcow2 | 20:15 |
potato_farmer | In Juno it works fine, in Liberty I get a curl error | 20:16 |
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cr0wrx | one sec | 20:19 |
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cr0wrx | no curl error for me | 20:22 |
cr0wrx | centos7 | 20:22 |
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potato_farmer | On Liberty? Using 1606? | 20:22 |
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hk_ | hi | 20:31 |
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cr0wrx | on liberty | 20:34 |
hk_ | https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/94688/could-not-find-resources-cirros/ | 20:35 |
hk_ | https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/94688/could-not-find-resources-cirros/ | 20:35 |
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sterdnotshaken1 | Does anyone know if you can use subnet-pools with a subnet size of /30 or /31? | 21:40 |
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