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sam__can someone provide advise on networking documentation similar to the KVM Bridge model?01:51
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sam__Just looking for a link at this time.01:52
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Sam-I-Amsam__: see the networking guide at docs.openstack.org, probably the provider network with linux bridge scenario01:56
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bzurawskiHello08:20
bzurawskiHave anybody tried to start debian with SCSI support on OpenStack ?08:21
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Gorianis there a comparison of Ubuntu Horizon vs. non-ubuntu Horizon/08:34
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haukebrunoGorian, from a personal high level view it is just some coloring + logo/banner foo08:44
haukebrunofunctionality _should_ be the same08:44
Gorianyeah. just decided to remove openstack-dashboard-ubuntu-theme and hope it didn't break anything08:44
Gorianit didn't08:44
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Gorianas for horizon, do you guys use it, or are there like, popular third party alternatives?08:45
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haukebrunoGorian, removing the ubuntu theme doesn't break anything. we also remove it in all of our platforms08:49
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haukebruno+ we use horizon08:49
Goriancool, thanks :)08:49
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yankcrime+1 for horizon usage08:59
yankcrimewith our own customisations08:59
yankcrime(just branding / colours)08:59
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Gorianso, do you guys like Horizon then, it's just the only good options?09:01
Gorianjust wondering09:01
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Gorianalso, what Hypervisors do you guys use, and why? Experiences with lxc and/or docker? Can you run both kvm and lxc together?09:02
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yankcrimehorizon is ok, probably most of the time i just use the cli tools though09:11
yankcrimebut often it's handy to have some kind of visualization09:11
yankcrimewe're using kvm09:11
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yankcrimei believe you can technically run kvm and lxc side-by-side, but the nova configuration could get complex - i'd assume you'd have to have two instances of the nova-compute agent per compute node, each with their own config09:12
Gorianoh, interesting09:12
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yankcrimekvm's worked well for us, but we are looking at rolling out magnum to provide native support for containers in the not-too-distant future09:14
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haukebrunoGorian, so far we (+ our customers) are happy with the _plain_ horizon. everything works and getting better from release to release09:16
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Gorianyankcrime: magnum?09:16
haukebrunowe operators use CLI tools most of the time anyway09:16
Gorianhaukebruno: good to know :)09:16
yankcrimehttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Magnum09:16
haukebrunoand we also use 100% KVM for now, a collegue is setting up some hyper-v nodes the next week09:16
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haukebrunoand: if your hypervisors are able to fit into your whole setting I guess, running KVM, hyper-v, lxc et cetera in parallel should work09:17
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Gorianinteresting. Guess I'll have to look into that more09:18
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haukebrunobut we'll need a dedicated region for hyper-v, since we use linuxbridge agent in our newer platforms, hyper-v needs OVS09:18
GorianOVS?09:19
haukebrunoopenvswitch agent09:19
Gorianand is anyone else annoyed that you can't seem to change the region name?09:19
Gorianlike, almost everything else (except ssh keypairs?) it generates a unique ID for, and uses that09:20
Gorianwhy not do that for the region too?>09:20
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haukebrunoGorian, well. we tried to change the region name. the result was, that our controllers stopped work :D we need to set them up from scratch again09:22
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Gorianyeah, that's... stupid09:22
Gorianlike, that's the sort of thing i spent weeks fretting about09:22
Gorian:(09:22
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haukebrunomaybe - but I didn't had time to far to test that in a lab - someone could change the names directly in the database + recreate all endpoints and stuff09:24
Gorianick09:25
GorianI just ended up doing Region0109:25
Gorianbut I don't really like it either09:25
Gorianbetter than RegionOne09:25
haukebrunoyes, we also named them reg01 and reg02. now we have to live with that :D09:26
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Gorianseems like such a stupid oversight09:28
Gorianso, I'm following the guide athttp://docs.openstack.org/mitaka/install-guide-ubuntu09:28
Gorianbut I seemed to have missed something09:29
Gorian"openstack network list" is empty09:29
haukebrunoGorian, you should check out the networking guide + the scenarios in it09:29
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haukebrunothey'll lead you to the generic stuff like ext-net and so on09:30
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GorianI guess I would have thought that the ubuntu guide would have walked me through setting up the basic networks :P09:31
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haukebrunoGorian, should also.09:33
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haukebrunooh, or shouldn't :D can't find it now09:34
Gorianbah, I guess I'll do it tomorrow. It's 2:30am, I just wanted to deploy a test instance09:34
Goriantoo late to do network configuration09:34
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Gorianlooks like i'll have to configure a network for the external network, and then one internally?09:34
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GorianI assume neutron can vlan tag packets and I can just throw my server on a trunked port?09:35
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Gorianalso, why does horizon say that my hypervisor is using 512MBs of RAM when it's using 7.5GBs? Is it only counting the amount of RAM the actual nova process is using?09:37
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John341hi everyone! I'm having some issues booting windows image on liberty/centos7. I've loaded the cloudbase-win2012r2 image, and during boot windows boots and I get a prompt with "Windows could not finish configuring the system. To attempt to resume configuration, restart the computer."09:52
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John341Anyone who've seen this, or can hint where to look for fixing this?09:52
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FransUrboHow do I configure what capabilities a (Nova) host have? I can't seem to create an instance using "my" Cinder volume driver..10:35
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ccardI am seeing an issue where for some instances I can see IP Addresses ok in the Horizon instance overview page, but "nova show <id>" and "openstack server show <id>" don't return the IP address information. What is Horizon doing differently to the cli commands? (I am running Juno)11:01
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haukebrunoGorian, the amount of ram is about the _scheduled_ ram.11:17
haukebrunoif no instances run on the compute node, 0G ram is used from nova view11:17
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edomaurhello, i'm searching some help about running mitaka over a vsphere 6 cluster...11:23
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ccardI can see that novaclient.servers.get() returns Server objects, which have an attribute called 'addresses', it is this attribute which is blank for some instances, but as far as I can see Horizon also uses the novaclient, so how does it manage to get the IP addresses ok?11:54
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FransUrboWhat exactly does "Matches properties defined in an instance type's extra specs against compute capabilities." at http://docs.openstack.org/icehouse/config-reference/content/section_compute-scheduler.html#computecapabilitiesfilter mean in plain english?12:01
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morsikHello… is that normal that neutron l3 agent recreates routers after reconnection to RabbitMQ?!12:35
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morsikI had to add RAM to RabbitMQ nodes, and my whole networks stopped working for about minute!12:35
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Sam-I-Amrouters should not stop working if rabbit disappears12:36
FransUrboSure it's the routes that disappeard and not just Neutron being unable to connect to Rabbit?12:36
morsikSam-I-Am: but they are. I rebooted 2 RMQ nodes (one after another).12:37
morsikAnd log says router recreation is right after reconnect?!12:37
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morsikhttps://dpaste.de/jPXk12:38
morsik(We're using Kilo)12:38
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Sam-I-Amrecreation doesnt imply they're going away12:42
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morsikSam-I-Am: so why I've lost connection on every project?12:43
morsikfor about minute.12:43
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morsik(btw, does restarting l3 agent on network node could cause this?)12:44
Sam-I-Amit shouldn't, but it could if it rebuilds a lot of stuff12:44
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morsikEhh… I don't like words like "shouldn't". It's not clear if it supposed to work that way or not.12:45
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Sam-I-Amkilo is old, so i dont recall exactly what it does12:46
Sam-I-Amyour best bet is seeing what changes it makes when you restart the agent12:46
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morsikGood thing is it do autorepair. Bad thing is that such things happens…12:47
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haukebrunoon kilo restarting l3-agent doesn't end in broken router namespaces12:50
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haukebrunomorsik, you could do a lot of stuff on your network nodes that _shouldn'_ break the routers nor dhcp namespaces. maybe you hit a bug or other things went wrong12:51
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morsikdamn… maybe it's bug in rabbitmq then, and it send old messages to l3 agent about creating those networks…12:52
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mewaldI have a situation where an unprivileged tenant (project scope token) can retrieve a full list of networks via neutron net-list regardless of the tenant the networks belong to. How can I troubleshoot this?12:54
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Sam-I-Amare those networks shared?12:55
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mewaldSam-I-Am: No, shared is set to False12:57
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mewaldhttps://gist.github.com/mewald1/7b9855d8613cc5e54b28ffcb155336f812:59
mewaldThis output shouldnt even be possible imho12:59
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mewaldtenant_id of the network is different to OS_PROJECT_ID in the environment12:59
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Sam-I-Amhmm, that seems odd.13:02
mewaldindeed :D13:02
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SamYaplemewald: the admin role allows that. check your roles and policy file13:23
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mewaldSam-I-Am: SamYaple: I really was a wrongful assignment of the admin role. Thanks for helping me out :)13:37
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Sketchis it better to disable dhcp and statically define a non-floating IP once an instance is up, or will that break things?14:49
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Sam-I-AmSketch: what? why?14:49
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haukebrunoSketch, I do not see any benefit here14:49
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SamYaplehaukebruno: there are dhcp renewal bugs (im looking at you windows) related to NAK'ing that break things14:52
SamYapleso potentially Sketch, yes. but generally no14:53
SamYapleits a workaround not a fix14:53
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haukebrunowe saw some renewal bug stuff in our kilo plattform, but not in the mitaka one. but can't name it + we do not use windows ;p14:55
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SamYaplehaukebruno: even in mitaka, its still a race, though _way_ less likely to happen.14:56
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SamYaplehaukebruno: basically if you restart the dhcp agent dnsmasq comes up without a list of hosts having dhcp leases, do the renew process first sends a NAK then a new req and that drops the ip for a fraction of a second14:57
SamYapleon windows it drops the ip.... and never sends a new request :D14:57
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SamYaplethis was mostly fixed in liberty i believe with prepoulating the leases file14:57
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haukebrunoSamYaple, well, we saw THAT behavior on linux instances too (but in kilo)14:59
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SamYaplehaukebruno: older versions of some dhcp clients had a similiar bug as windows, yea14:59
haukebrunoah, nice to know14:59
SamYapleanyway its mostly fixed but the point is there is still some benefit for static ips. not worth it in my opinion, but its there15:00
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SketchSamYaple: because dhcp sets the host/domainname/resolv.conf, and it doesn't seem like there's any way to change the domain name or search path via horizon15:21
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Sketchit looks like i can set dns_domain in neutron manually, but i would think that, although I am, most people would not be deploying uniform dns names across all instances, so it doesn't seem like that would be the "right" way to do it15:24
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SamYapleSketch: you can fix that in a few ways, or you can just tell you dhcp client to only get an ip and gateway. dont ask for dns and other things15:28
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Sketchi guess that would probably be the simplest way15:31
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andrewbogottI could use a hand with getting spice consoles working on Horizon.  I think I have all the pieces in place, but when I load the console I get 'The connection to the server was reset'16:37
andrewbogottand the log says 'SSL connection but '/var/lib/nova/self.pem' not found' which is reasonable but i can't find any docs that talk about ssl setup at all :(16:38
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Egyptian[Web]how do i improve the performance of neutron? i am using vxlan and dedicated neutron hardware nodes and am still not happy with the performance as i am seeing a 90% drop16:56
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haukebrunoEgyptian[Web], with what performance exactly?16:58
Egyptian[Web]i am using iperf to test . from host to host i get 10gb .. from instance to instance on 2 different hosts i am barely getting above 1g speeds16:59
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haukebrunoEgyptian[Web], does your NIC support vxlan offloading? are you using jumbo frames? on our mellanox NICs we saw 2-3 gbps with MTU 1500 and 10gbps with MTU 9000 (neutron + linuxbridge agent + vxlan on mitaka)17:01
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Egyptian[Web]haukebruno: good questions. jumbo frames no. i got to check my nic. thanks for the tip - will start looking that way17:03
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SketchSamYaple: even when i tell dhclient to ignore domain name, it still sets the domain to ".novalocal".  i'm suspecting cloud-init does it.18:17
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SamYapleSketch: thats possible. and thats controlled in neutron.conf I believe18:18
SamYapleim a bit fuzzy on the exact implementation details though18:18
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Sketchchanging dns_domain in neutron.conf (both controller and compute) did not fix it18:19
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Sketchaha /etc/nova/nova.conf:dhcp_domain=novalocal18:23
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SamYapleSketch: .... are you using novanet?18:26
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Sketchi'm using mirantis...i think it's using neutron.  but this is the only place novalocal is defined.18:26
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SamYapleoh irght maybe because cloud-init sees it its in the config drive iso18:27
SamYaplei guess that would make sense since nova rules that18:27
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adil452100hello everybody !18:35
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adil452100I have a question please about open source and free "Desktop as a Service" solution of openstack18:36
Sketchyep, looks like that was it.  also i had to create a new vm to see the change (i had tried that after changing neutron.conf just in case)18:36
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adil452100is there any known (not very buggy) solution18:36
adil452100I've searched the web without success18:37
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adil452100can you help ?18:37
SamYapleadil452100: im not sure what you mean by your question18:37
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adil452100<SamYaple> is there any known (not very buggy) "Desktop as a service" solution for openstack ?18:39
SamYaplei dont know what that is18:39
SamYapleare you asking about something like RDP?18:39
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adil452100<SamYaple> Ok thank you :)18:39
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adil452100<SamYaple> This is a paid solution : https://www.leostream.com/product/daas_how_it_works ... I'm lokking for a free open source broker like this one18:41
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SamYapleif I understand what you are asking, openstack can provide something like that I suppose.18:43
SamYapleit does have a web portal and remote viewing with spice/vnc18:43
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adil452100<SamYaple> I'm an openstack user since 2012 and I know what it offers, but I can't find a specialized project in this area18:45
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adil452100<SamYaple> The problem is the Desktop management and connction to thin or zero clients18:46
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MadOtisHello all, I'm trying to install openstack on Centos7.  I am at the keystone install step following the official documentation and can't seem to get past the "openstack service create..." step.  I get a 404 error from the command.  All nodes have the same /etc/hosts file and all DO resolve "controller" successfully; it just seems like the keystone service isn't running or accessible through apache.18:48
MadOtisAny guidance would be greatly appreciated!18:48
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MadOtisUgh!  Never mind... I'm brain-dead today... I had a semicolon instead of a colon in the apache config.  Erase, erase...18:50
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kb023i am new to opensource contribution19:01
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Gorian_you are already here kb023? O.o19:02
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kb023how to start19:10
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Gorian_kb023: are you okay man?19:13
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caswitch_Hey guys, I'm trying to install openstack with pip ("sudo pip install python-keystoneclient" for example) but I have a lot of error. Somebody can help me ? =/19:15
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Gorian_caswitch_: I know nothing about that - but why?19:16
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caswitch_Gorian_: There is a technical problem in my compani (where I make my internship) so I have to work on my computer. But... I have some problems to install openstack. =/19:19
Gorian_eww >.<19:19
Gorian_I'm sorry19:19
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caswitch_Gorian_: Don't be. =) I am who is sorry. x)19:21
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jlopezgukb023: you can start dowloading and installing devstack and playing a little with it19:51
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jlopezgukb023: or what do you mean with start?19:54
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jlopezgucaswitch_: do you manage proxies? Do you want to install openstack or devstack or any specific service?19:56
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caswitch_jlopezgu: I don't know what proxy is. =/ I want to install openstack : keystone, nova, cinder, glance and neutron. ;_;19:58
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MadOtisok, so... I'm trying to add endpoints for nova, now.  I enter 'openstack endpoint create --region RegionOne compute public http://controller:8774/v2.1/%\(tennant_id\)s' and I get a 400 error.  Suggestions on how to get around this?19:59
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jlopezgubut do you plan to setup a environment to distribute VMs? or do you plan just to contribute to the project or what do you plan to do?20:00
Sam-I-Amsounds like keystone has a problem... check the logs?20:00
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MadOtiskeystone-error.log is empty, and apache only reports a 400 error:  "POST /v3/endpoints HTTP/1.1" 400 105 "-" "python-keystoneclient"20:01
caswitch_jlopezgu: I want work on several VM. =/20:02
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Sam-I-AmMadOtis: there should be other log files20:02
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MadOtisSam-I-Am: let me dig around20:03
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jlopezgucaswitch_: which errors do you get?20:05
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MadOtisSam-I-am: I see pretty much uniteligible info in the /var/log/keystone/keystone.log:  like a warning from keystone.common.wsgi followed by what apper to be a handful of GUIDs and finally the URL I was trying to add: http://controller:8774/v2.1/%(tennant_id)s20:08
Sam-I-Amwell, first thing is its tenant_id, not tennant_id20:09
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caswitch_jlopezgu: http://pastebin.com/Rei6Ez3u20:09
MadOtis<facepalm>20:09
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jlopezgucaswitch_: give a look to this link and give it a try if it helps https://github.com/blue-yonder/pyscaffold/issues/6720:13
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caswitch_jlopezgu: I already see this link but that wasn't a real help. =/ I'm sos sorry, I am really not good. ;_;20:17
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jlopezgucaswitch_: which documentation are you following?20:19
caswitch_The first doc I used was : http://grand-est.fr/index.php/fr/support/documentation/36-utilisation-du-cloud-openstack-de-l-iphc, after : http://docs.openstack.org/user-guide/common/cli_install_openstack_command_line_clients.html20:20
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MadOtisnew issue:  When populating the nova database with 'su -s /bin/sh -c "nova-manage db sync" nova', I get an error: "error: upgrade DB using Essex release first."  How do I do that?20:32
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Sam-I-AmMadOtis: what release are you using?20:33
FransUrboWhat exactly does "Matches properties defined in an instance type's extra specs against compute capabilities." at http://docs.openstack.org/icehouse/config-reference/content/section_compute-scheduler.html#computecapabilitiesfilter mean in plain english?20:33
MadOtismitaka20:33
Sam-I-AmMadOtis: hmm, it might not be. are you using distro packages?20:33
Sam-I-AmFransUrbo: iirc, you can define extra specs in a flavor, and set those as a filter for scheduling a vm20:34
MadOtisyes, I'm following the Centos 7/Redhat 7 documentation... I assumed that was Mitaka, considering the Yum repos it asked me to add in the first steps.20:34
MadOtishttp://docs.openstack.org/mitaka/install-guide-rdo/nova-controller-install.html20:35
FransUrboOk, thanx.20:35
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Sam-I-Amwhat does 'rpm -aq | grep openstack-nova' say ?20:35
MadOtisall 6 nova packages are at 13.1.0-1.e17.noarch20:36
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FransUrboSo I guess you set that in capabilities ?20:37
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FransUrboI thought you could "match" properties in a flavor by creating a host aggregate.. But it doesn't seem to work..20:39
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Sam-I-AmMadOtis: those would be mitaka packages, so that's good. whats in your database connection string?20:41
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MadOtisconnection=mysql+pymysql://nova:<obfuscated>@controller/nova20:43
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Sam-I-Amthere should be two, right? regular and api.20:43
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MadOtisconnection=mysql+pymysql://nova:<obfuscated>@controller/nova_api for the api database, that command seemed to populate properly.20:44
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Sam-I-Amis there anything in the other db?20:44
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Gorian_just don't do what I did20:45
MadOtisShouldn't be, but I can drop and re-create just to be sure.20:45
Gorian_and forgot the second "y" in "pymysql"20:45
Gorian_and then spend 10 minutes trouble shooting the issues20:45
Sam-I-Amtypos suck20:45
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Sam-I-Amthey're fairly common20:45
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MadOtistell me about it... two of them bit me today20:45
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MadOtisJust to make double-sure here... the URL for the API database is right under the comment about the nova_api url, and the other url is the plain "nova" database, correct?20:49
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Sam-I-Amtheres [api_database] and [database]20:52
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MadOtisOdd... something was shacked with the database itself.  Drop, re-add, rerun the population script and it worked fine.  And, I just verified the nova and nova_api schemas are different.  I'm not sure what happened.20:54
Sam-I-Ammagic20:54
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MadOtisthese here new fangled computer thingies are ALL magic!20:55
Sam-I-Ampretty much20:55
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FransUrboHow do you make an instance choose a specific volume type (from Horizon, which don't have a volume type selector)?20:59
Sam-I-Amvolume type?20:59
FransUrboI have several volume types: lvm, nfs and my "own" zol. Which uses "ZFS On Linux", via iSCSI, from a remote host.21:00
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FransUrboThe lvm and nfs types work just fine (if I first create the volume), but not the 'zol' one..21:00
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FransUrboMy idea was to create a bunch of flavors, with the property "volume_backend_name" set accordingly. And then use one of these flavors when I create the instance..21:01
Sam-I-Amand that didnt work?21:01
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FransUrboBut that won't work. I get "Filter ComputeCapabilitiesFilter returned 0 hosts"21:02
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FransUrboHow I setup things: https://github.com/FransUrbo/openstack_bladecenter/blob/master/install_cinder_zfs.sh#L59-L12821:02
Sam-I-Amwell, a filter wouldnt be the thing here21:02
Sam-I-Amshould be a way in the flavor to specify the backend21:03
Sam-I-Amwhich might be independent of the compute nodes21:03
FransUrboThat's what I thought I did in that script..21:03
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Sam-I-Amyou might need to add something to the image, like cinder_img_volume_type21:06
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FransUrboI don't want to bind an image to a volume like that if I can avoid it. I'd like to be able to use an image with any volume backend..21:07
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Sam-I-Amthen i'd think the flavor thing should work21:08
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FransUrboIt doesn't. Or I missed a step.21:08
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Sam-I-Amis that zol storage dependent on particular compute nodes?21:11
FransUrboNo.21:12
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Sam-I-Amhmm, so aggregates might not be a solution21:13
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FransUrboSorry, power spike killed almost everything here..21:27
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Sam-I-Amnice21:29
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jlopezgucaswitch_: I'm sorry I've been busy, have you tried installing it with ap-get instead of pip?21:38
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jlopezgucaswitch_: your error looks more a pip side problem21:38
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caswitch_jlopezgu: Don't be sorry. ^^ I make an internship and my work is to install with pip. =/  So...21:41
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caswitch_I verified the version of pip, setuptools, pbr. All are "fine" but none work correctly (maybe). ;_;21:42
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jlopezgucaswitch_: are you able to do an apt-get install update? Just to see that there are no problems with proxies21:43
caswitch_I cloned https://github.com/openstack-dev/pbr (for pbr.pbr_json) but I don't know how use a clone git. =/21:43
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caswitch_jlopezgu: I can try. =)21:44
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jlopezgucaswitch_: were you able to use the git clone?21:45
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caswitch_jlopezgu: I don't know. =/21:45
caswitch_Hum... the doc my company gave me (Last metadata expiration check: 2:26:14 ago on Tue Jul 26 21:18:44 2016.21:46
caswitch_No package epel-release available.21:46
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caswitch_Error: Unable to find a match.21:46
caswitch_(oups)21:46
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caswitch_The doc my company gave me says to do sudo yum install epel-release. But I find no match.21:47
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caswitch_"Last metadata expiration check [...]". O.o21:48
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jlopezgulol21:49
jlopezgummm21:49
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jlopezguwhich OS are you using?21:49
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caswitch_Fedora 24 ^^'21:50
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caswitch_I did sudo dnf install https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/epel/epel-release-latest-7.noarch.rpm21:50
caswitch_This first command works. \(;_;)/21:51
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caswitch_I'm to tired to continue for today. Good night. \o_21:57
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