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| rpasea | I'm trying to set up a mitaka deployment of keystone + horizon, using the keystone v3 api and I'm having some trouble when logging in with a cloud_admin user | 07:01 |
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| rpasea | Horizon first obtains a domain scoped token which it uses to get the user's projects on /v3/users/{id}/projects | 07:02 |
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| rpasea | then horizon gets a project scoped token on the first project, which it then uses to access endpoints like: | 07:02 |
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| rpasea | /v3/domains/{id} | 07:03 |
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| rpasea | this endpoints are protected in the policy.json and are only accessible to users which have the admin role on the admin domain | 07:04 |
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| rpasea | my problem is that horizon uses project scoped tokens for these, so the calls always fail with 403 | 07:04 |
| rpasea | why doesn't horizon use the domain scoped token for these calls? can anybody help me with this? | 07:04 |
| rpasea | these endpoints are protected in the policy.json and are only accessible to users which have the admin role on the admin domain | 07:05 |
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| Kdecherf | hi there, given that two tenant networks are on two separate vlans, is there an easy way to let them talk to each other? | 08:45 |
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| Kdecherf | (the only gateway of these networks is the neutron l3 agent) | 08:46 |
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| haukebruno | Kdecherf, if you mean two tenant networks from different tenants: I would say an external network is the way to go | 09:01 |
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| Kdecherf | haukebruno: two tenants networks from the same tenant | 09:01 |
| Kdecherf | adding a port in routers to the other network worked finally | 09:01 |
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| haukebruno | Kdecherf, yep ;) | 09:03 |
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| andrea__ | hi to all, I've got this error while installing devstack in a debian stretch version http://pastebin.com/P4vsNFYM , anyone can help me? | 09:52 |
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| mewald | We have a strange problem: Our nova-compute services report wrong hostnames when registering with nova. They all report "kvm00" … any ideas? | 10:21 |
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| haukebruno | mewald, the local fqdn will use per default unless you set 'host = foo' in nova.conf | 10:23 |
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| mewald | haukebruno: I verified that nova.conf does not set the "host" parameter. I also checked that python can figure out the correct hostname via socket.getfqdn() and socket.gethostname() | 10:27 |
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| Jehane | hi, I have questions about keystone and ldap authentication | 11:38 |
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| jklare | hey, is anybody else using mitaka and flavors with ephemerals? | 11:43 |
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| Jehane | ccard: sorry got the answer on an other chan | 12:23 |
| Jehane | it was the multi-domain options for keystone I was looking for | 12:23 |
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| jklare | can somebody help me figure out why my ephemerals disk is created, but the instance fails to spawn while looking at the wrong path? | 12:40 |
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| Kdecherf | is there a way to let instances request several ip on the same nic? (to create a bridged network to containers) | 13:05 |
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| gillesMo | Hello ! I hit a bug (?) in Kilo, while updating a compute node : same as here https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1516671. I can't live migrate an instance with a cinder volume, I got that error in nova-compute.log : ERROR|oslo_messaging.rpc.dispatcher|Exception during message handling: Remote error: DBError (ProgrammingError) can't adapt type 'In | 13:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1516671 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "LiveMigration DBError: ProgrammingError: can't adapt type 'Instance'" [Low,Invalid] | 13:09 |
| gillesMo | stance' | 13:09 |
| gillesMo | Does someone already saw and correct that ? | 13:10 |
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| boyblunder | hi, what would be the best way to have a "virtual soundcard" detected on a kvm guest linux host? | 13:37 |
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| boyblunder | currently using openstack-kilo | 13:37 |
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| mrhillsman | boyblunder not really sure what you are asking there | 13:40 |
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| mrhillsman | if it is something specific to the hypervisor | 13:40 |
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| mrhillsman | you may want to check with the relevant IRC community for that hypervisor | 13:40 |
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| boyblunder | oh, are there different communites for hypervisors? where can i find a list? | 13:41 |
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| mrhillsman | do a search on google for linux hypervisors | 13:42 |
| mrhillsman | go to the site of the hypervisor you are working with | 13:42 |
| mrhillsman | look around for irc/chat/freenode | 13:42 |
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| povezlo | Hi, I use Ubuntu 14.04, I followed this manual http://docs.openstack.org/mitaka/install-guide-ubuntu/ and installed and configured Keystone, Glance, Nova and Neutron. And I have a problem with running Horizon. | 14:27 |
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| povezlo | Did anybody install and run Horizon manually ? | 14:28 |
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| haukebruno | povezlo, yep. just ask ;) | 14:28 |
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| povezlo | A common questions, to install Horizon I need to do 3 things1. apt-get install openstack-dashboard 2. Edit /etc/openstack-dashboard/local_settings.py 3. service apache2 restart. Do I miss anything? | 14:29 |
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| FransUrbo | No, that's what I did. | 14:33 |
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| povezlo | 10.237.216.195 - an Openstack host without UI. http://10.237.216.195/ gives me Apache2 Ubuntu Default Page and http://10.237.216.195/horizon gives me nothing. | 14:35 |
| FransUrbo | Did you install "openstack-dashboard-apache"? | 14:36 |
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| povezlo | No, there is no package "openstack-dashboard-apache". I have installed only "openstack-dashboard" | 14:37 |
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| povezlo | Please check http://docs.openstack.org/mitaka/install-guide-ubuntu/horizon-install.html | 14:38 |
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| FransUrbo | Do you have any /etc/apache2/sites-available/openstack* files? | 14:39 |
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| povezlo | Yes I have root@silv-yar-ostack:~# ls /etc/apache2/sites-available/ | 14:56 |
| povezlo | 000-default.conf default-ssl.conf wsgi-keystone.conf | 14:56 |
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| FransUrbo | You have the dir, but not the openstack stuff.. | 15:08 |
| FransUrbo | I have these four files there: | 15:10 |
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| SamYaple | FransUrbo: wsgi-keystone is opnestack | 15:10 |
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| FransUrbo | /etc/apache2/sites-available/openstack-dashboard-alias-only.conf | 15:10 |
| FransUrbo | /etc/apache2/sites-available/openstack-dashboard-ssl-redirect.conf | 15:10 |
| FransUrbo | /etc/apache2/sites-available/openstack-dashboard-ssl.conf | 15:10 |
| FransUrbo | /etc/apache2/sites-available/openstack-dashboard.conf | 15:10 |
| SamYaple | and techncially 000-default.conf could be horizon depending on how it was installed | 15:10 |
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| FransUrbo | I have that to, in addition to those four files. | 15:10 |
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| FransUrbo | Technically yes, but doubtfull. | 15:11 |
| SamYaple | not doubtful. it is 100% dependant on how it was installed | 15:11 |
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| SamYaple | in the past that was the file recommended to replace in some guides | 15:11 |
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| FransUrbo | Perhaps, but tthis is Mitaka.. | 15:12 |
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| FransUrbo | Not "the past". | 15:12 |
| FransUrbo | povezlo: What dist? | 15:12 |
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| Kdecherf | hm, i have an interesting behavior here with allowed-address-pair: i have the feeling that security groups are incorrectly applied with cidr allowed-address-pair, mitaka env | 15:14 |
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| SamYaple | Kdecherf: whats the behaviour? | 15:14 |
| Kdecherf | SamYaple: containers with ipvlan, allowed-address-pair with a /27 on the instance | 15:15 |
| Kdecherf | security group allowing all ingress/egress on the same security group | 15:15 |
| Kdecherf | the containers can't ping others | 15:15 |
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| Kdecherf | and if i add an ingress rule for icmp from 0.0.0.0, packets begin to flow correctly | 15:16 |
| Kdecherf | event after i delete the rule | 15:16 |
| Kdecherf | -t | 15:16 |
| SamYaple | which ipvlan mode? | 15:16 |
| Kdecherf | currently l2 | 15:17 |
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| Kdecherf | it seems to have the same issue on l3 mode | 15:18 |
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| SamYaple | i havent messed with ipvlan, but ive done alot with openvswitch on instances, is it possible you are sending out frames with a different mac address? | 15:18 |
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| SamYaple | that behaiour would get wierd. it would work if both instances are on the same compute host, but break if they are on different hosts due to the anti spoofing rules | 15:19 |
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| Kdecherf | the veth on the container side have the same mac than eth0 on the host | 15:20 |
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| SamYaple | Kdecherf: so im a bit confused as to the issue. there is not a single rule that can allow all tcp/udp and icmp, thats two rules | 15:28 |
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| SamYaple | Kdecherf: are you saying you dont want icmp but without it this doesnt work? | 15:28 |
| SamYaple | that sounds like an arp//discovery issue | 15:29 |
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| Kdecherf | SamYaple: it could sound like an arp issue indeed, i'm trying to figure out | 15:29 |
| D4RKS1D3 | Hi, someone knows how it works nova compute lxc? | 15:29 |
| D4RKS1D3 | How can i put templates in openstack to launch it? thanks | 15:30 |
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| SamYaple | Kdecherf: remove the icmp rule and manually add the arp entry to see if it works | 15:31 |
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| SamYaple | im not sure how ipvlan works, if its unicast/multicast | 15:31 |
| SamYaple | if its multicast you may have issues since thats going to be blocked in alot of configurations | 15:31 |
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| Kdecherf | SamYaple: on l2 mode it forwards broadcast to containers | 15:32 |
| Kdecherf | not in l3 | 15:32 |
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| SamYaple | im talking about getting the multicast through openstack and the rest of the network, my guess is thatas where it would be dropping | 15:34 |
| SamYaple | so the learning portion of ipvlan may be broken | 15:34 |
| SamYaple | but im not familiar with the technology. let me go do a quick read on it | 15:35 |
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| povezlo | FransUrbo: mitaka dist | 15:35 |
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| FransUrbo | What _OS_ distribution? Ubuntu, Debian GNU/Linux.. ? | 15:38 |
| FransUrbo | and it's version. | 15:38 |
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| * D4RKS1D3 Hi | 15:42 | |
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| povezlo | Ubuntu 14.04 | 15:43 |
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| FransUrbo | How do you know that there's no "openstack-dashboard-apache" package? | 15:43 |
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| povezlo | I did add-apt-repository cloud-archive:mitaka ; apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade | 15:45 |
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| povezlo | root@silv-yar-horizon:~# apt-get install openstack-dashboard-apache | 15:45 |
| povezlo | Reading package lists... Done | 15:45 |
| povezlo | Building dependency tree | 15:45 |
| povezlo | Reading state information... Done | 15:45 |
| povezlo | E: Unable to locate package openstack-dashboard-apache | 15:45 |
| povezlo | root@silv-yar-horizon:~# | 15:45 |
| FransUrbo | Ok. How about: apt-cache search openstack | grep -i apache | 15:46 |
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| povezlo | Nothing | 15:47 |
| povezlo | root@silv-yar-ostack:~# apt-get install openstack-dashboard-apache | 15:47 |
| povezlo | Reading package lists... Done | 15:47 |
| povezlo | Building dependency tree | 15:47 |
| povezlo | Reading state information... Done | 15:47 |
| povezlo | E: Unable to locate package openstack-dashboard-apache | 15:47 |
| povezlo | root@silv-yar-ostack:~# apt-cache search openstack | grep -i apache | 15:47 |
| povezlo | root@silv-yar-ostack:~# | 15:47 |
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| FransUrbo | pavezlo: Then I don't know.. | 15:48 |
| povezlo | no problem. | 15:48 |
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| SamYaple | Kdecherf: my guess would be blocked multicast. | 15:50 |
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| SamYaple | Kdecherf: you could try and explict protocol allow, i think multicast is ip protocol 92 | 15:50 |
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| SamYaple | povezlo: the package name is openstack-dashboard, no apache | 15:51 |
| SamYaple | povezlo: `dpkg -l | grep openstack` | 15:51 |
| FransUrbo | SamYaple: He already installed that package. But it doesn't contain all the files he need. | 15:52 |
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| SamYaple | FransUrbo: then a dpkg -l should show the package | 15:53 |
| SamYaple | but it would also show if he doesnt have the ubuntu theme package installed | 15:53 |
| SamYaple | if he doesnt then he gets not apache config | 15:53 |
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| Kdecherf | SamYaple: hmm, my guess goes to openvswitch on the compute node | 15:55 |
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| Kdecherf | one rule in br-int accept arp packets for this mac only if it affects the former ip address of the instance | 15:55 |
| Kdecherf | it seems that other arp packets are dropped | 15:55 |
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| povezlo | SmYaple: yes, this package openstack-dashboard I have installed | 15:56 |
| SamYaple | povezlo: can you pastebin the output of the command? | 15:56 |
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| povezlo | root@silv-yar-ostack:~# dpkg -l | grep openstack | 15:57 |
| povezlo | ii openstack-dashboard 2:9.0.1-0ubuntu2~cloud0 all Django web interface for OpenStack | 15:57 |
| povezlo | ii openstack-dashboard-ubuntu-theme 2:9.0.1-0ubuntu2~cloud0 all Ubuntu theme for the OpenStack dashboard | 15:57 |
| povezlo | ii python-django-openstack-auth 2.1.1-1~cloud0 all Django authentication backend for Openstack - Python 2.7 | 15:57 |
| povezlo | ii python-openstack-auth 2.1.1-1~cloud0 all Django authentication backend for Openstack - transition package | 15:57 |
| povezlo | ii python-openstackclient 2.3.0-2~cloud0 all OpenStack Command-line Client - Python 2.7 | 15:57 |
| povezlo | ii python-openstacksdk 0.8.1-2~cloud0 all SDK for building applications to work with OpenStack - Python 2.x | 15:57 |
| povezlo | root@silv-yar-ostack:~# | 15:57 |
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| SamYaple | povezlo: seems like youve got something installed incorrectly, or the package is broken | 15:58 |
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| SamYaple | i would purge openstack-dashboard and openstack-dashboard-ubuntu-theme and try to reinstall both if you are missing /etc/apache/sites-available files | 15:59 |
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| SamYaple | Kdecherf: what driver are yo uusing for neutron? | 16:00 |
| povezlo | SamYaple ok I will do it. thanks | 16:00 |
| SamYaple | povezlo: if that doesnt create the files i would lean toward openstack-dashboard-ubuntu-theme being broken, but that seems unlikely | 16:00 |
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| Kdecherf | SamYaple: ml2/vlan/ha | 16:02 |
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| Kdecherf | SamYaple: i don't understand why it works... sometimes | 16:11 |
| Kdecherf | it should never work in this configuration | 16:12 |
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| Kdecherf | SamYaple: hahaha nevermind, i omitted to add the range on the instance | 16:15 |
| Kdecherf | arp works as expected but icmp packets are dropped | 16:15 |
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| D4RKS1D3 | Someone can help me with nova-compute-lxc? | 16:32 |
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| SamYaple | Kdecherf: icmp will be dropped without an explict allow rule | 16:33 |
| SamYaple | Kdecherf: there is not an "allow all" rule for openstack | 16:33 |
| SamYaple | Kdecherf: youll have to allow all tcp/udp and allow all icmp | 16:33 |
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| Kdecherf | SamYaple: in fact icmp can be allowed in a catch-all rule with ip protocol 0 | 16:39 |
| Kdecherf | which matches any protocol | 16:39 |
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| Kdecherf | anyway, the issue seems to be a fail from me after all | 16:40 |
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| SamYaple | Kdecherf: im not sure thats accurate in the context of neutron, but some of the implementation details are dependant on the driver itself | 16:45 |
| SamYaple | Kdecherf: ive put ipvlan on my list of things to check. its _probably_ possible | 16:46 |
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| FransUrbo | Anyone know [a lot] about Heat stack templates? | 16:48 |
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| Redcavalier | Hi, I'm using cinder block devices for all my instance's root drive. All these block devices are on a SAN and linked to my compute nodes through iscsi. I am trying to increase the size of one of those drives and this is proving more complicated than expected. | 17:18 |
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| Redcavalier | I am able to extend them in cinder by switching the state to available and then doing an extend of the drive. However, once I login into the VM, the additional space is just not there even whe I try to remake the partition. | 17:19 |
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| Redcavalier | So I'm thinking I need to do something on the compute node, but what I'm finding online doesn't help me much. | 17:20 |
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| Sam-I-Am | well, the way to expand block storage in the cloud is re-deploy your vm on a bigger chunk of block storage | 17:21 |
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| Sam-I-Am | expanding storage live would be outside the scope of openstack | 17:21 |
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| SamYaple | Redcavalier: you can force the drive to rescan in linux (not sure of windows) | 17:23 |
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| SamYaple | Redcavalier: but i have a question about "switching the state to available", what do you mean by that? | 17:23 |
| Sketch | Sam-I-Am: it would be nice if horizon could manage ceph ;) | 17:24 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ceph is not openstack | 17:24 |
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| SamYaple | ++ | 17:24 |
| Sketch | yeah, i know | 17:24 |
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| Sketch | just that it would be nice | 17:24 |
| Redcavalier | SamYaple, cinder reset-state --state available your-volume-ID | 17:24 |
| SamYaple | Sketch: i think i saw a horizon plugin that did some ceph management later | 17:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | plus that seems like sort of an administrative thing that your users wouldnt need to see | 17:24 |
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| SamYaple | Redcavalier: yea thats what i was afraid of, you really dont want to do that | 17:24 |
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| SamYaple | Redcavalier: but completely unsupported, technicalyl what youre doing _may_ work | 17:25 |
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| Redcavalier | SamYaple, I expected as much, but that's all google gave me | 17:25 |
| SamYaple | Redcavalier: `echo "- - -" > /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:07.1/host0/scsi_host/host0/scan` | 17:25 |
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| SamYaple | that is the scsi command to rescan the disk and may recognize the new size | 17:25 |
| Redcavalier | ok | 17:25 |
| SamYaple | but again, what you are doing is a pretty bad idea | 17:25 |
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| Sketch | we just use an internal installation, no end users. i also assume some of the things in horizon are intended for admin only, and are not shown to end users. | 17:26 |
| Redcavalier | I know | 17:26 |
| Sketch | so i don't think that alone would be a reason not to include ceph | 17:26 |
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| SamYaple | Redcavalier: as long as you know i approve of your experimenting :) | 17:26 |
| Redcavalier | SamYaple, I'm just testing it right now anyway. I'll explain afterwards to my boss why this is a bad idea. | 17:26 |
| SamYaple | heh. thatll go well "Mr Boss, its technically possible but" "Great Redcavalier implement it immediately" | 17:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | heh | 17:27 |
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| Sam-I-Am | open mouth, insert foot | 17:27 |
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| Redcavalier | Yeah I know, but the fact it's not easily doable from the API only might save me there. | 17:28 |
| Redcavalier | Hence my other alternatives will most likely be more interesting, I hope | 17:29 |
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| SamYaple | Redcavalier: technically you could stop the instance (freeing up the drive to be "available" and then expand it and then start the instance | 17:29 |
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| SamYaple | doing anything else is not doable through the api | 17:29 |
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| Redcavalier | exactly | 17:29 |
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| Redcavalier | Long story short, if that interests you, he wants me to build instances so that if they need them while I'm on vacation, they can resize them. That includes resizing the drive. That's why I'm testing out if I can resize up a root disk. | 17:31 |
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| Sam-I-Am | just resize the way openstack meant it to be :) | 17:31 |
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| Redcavalier | This will sound dumb, but I'm not sure I get you on this. | 17:33 |
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| SamYaple | people should use openstack however they want and not have restrictions put on them. they should just realize if it doesnt work exactly like they want _THEY_ must change not openstack | 17:33 |
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| Redcavalier | aah, so that's what you mean | 17:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | resizing an instance basically takes a snapshot and re-deploys it on a larger flavor (with more storage, perhaps) | 17:33 |
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| SamYaple | resizing doesnt take a snapshot at all. what do yo umean Sam-I-Am ? | 17:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | there are a lot of "on the fly" operations that are not truly cloudy, and basically are there for people who dont want to pay the VMware tax | 17:34 |
| Sketch | Redcavalier: i shut down the drive, detached the volume, extended it, then reattached it and brought the instance back up, and the size in the VM did increase. | 17:34 |
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| Sam-I-Am | SamYaple: it more or less does those things | 17:34 |
| Sketch | all with horizon, but you have to specifically create a volume at instance launch (or before), to be able to detach and see volumes separately to do those things. | 17:34 |
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| Sketch | (i think) | 17:35 |
| SamYaple | Sam-I-Am: it in no way takes a snapshot. unless you consider rebooting a "snapshot" | 17:35 |
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| Redcavalier | Sketch, are you using a SAN and is that a root disk that you used? | 17:35 |
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| Sketch | Redcavalier: using ceph, and that was a root disk | 17:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | SamYaple: somehow it gets your current stuff into something it can boot | 17:35 |
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| SamYaple | its not creating a new glance image, it shuting down the instance, expanding the qcow2/raw/rbd itself, then starting the instance again (with the new flavor details) | 17:36 |
| SamYaple | no snapshot involved | 17:36 |
| Redcavalier | Sketch, that'S probably why. Unless you connect to ceph with iscsi, this is a very different setup I'm using | 17:36 |
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| Sketch | yeah, i doubt horizon can resize san volumes | 17:39 |
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| Redcavalier | Truth be told, I wish I was using Ceph, but they need to justify those several thousand dollar san they bought before hiring me | 17:40 |
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| SamYaple | Redcavalier: im truly sorry. | 17:40 |
| SamYaple | have you considered a fire? | 17:41 |
| Sketch | we just started playing with it, so i can't say for sure if i'm glad i'm using ceph or not yet. :) | 17:41 |
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| Redcavalier | SamYaple, causing a fire on the other side of the atlantic is a bit outside my means. | 17:42 |
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| SamYaple | Redcavalier: one can dream | 17:42 |
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| maestropandy | hi all, I am looking for copying nova security groups to create in multiple tenants | 17:42 |
| Redcavalier | Sketch, I used to work with ceph at my previous job and I did like it. It has its quirks but it's pretty nice if you've setup your infrastructure properly | 17:43 |
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| Redcavalier | Found a TYPO in Horizon : https://twitter.com/redcavalier/status/760537974652149760 | 18:10 |
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| Sketch | Redcavalier: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibibyte | 18:13 |
| Redcavalier | ah, well, we learn new things everyday | 18:14 |
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| jrich523 | hey guys, im trying to setup devstack, and i've got my centos 7 os working, was logged in under my account, cloned the repo to my home, and ran the create-stack-user.sh, which.... screwed everything up | 18:18 |
| jrich523 | it created the user, but he doesnt have access to his own home directory | 18:18 |
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| jrich523 | and the script somehow really screwed up the sudoers config file, so that when ever i run sudo with anything, it tosses some errors | 18:19 |
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| jrich523 | it says there is a syntax error on all the lines, but mostly points to the first line, which is what the script inserted | 18:20 |
| jrich523 | which is exactly what all docs say to do: ALL=(root) NOPASSWD:ALL | 18:21 |
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| hasantuncer | exit | 18:26 |
| jrich523 | enter | 18:26 |
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| jrich523 | also, i submitted a question on Ask, and it said a mod will look at it to submit it, and... nothing.. that was a day or two ago | 18:31 |
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| SamYaple | jrich523: you need '<user> ALL=(root) NOPASSWD:ALL' | 18:31 |
| SamYaple | or '%<group> ALL=(root) NOPASSWD:ALL' | 18:31 |
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| SamYaple | jrich523: you should use visudo command to ensure syntax is right | 18:31 |
| SamYaple | sounds like an unset variable issue | 18:31 |
| cafaroo | Hi im trying to follow https://jujucharms.com/openstack-base/ but when i try to add an image i get: Error communicating with http://10.14.0.75:9292 [Errno 32] Broken pipe | 18:32 |
| cafaroo | Cannot add from horizon either | 18:33 |
| jrich523 | yeah see thats what i thought, but.. the script did it.. so.. i think its broken? | 18:33 |
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| SamYaple | jrich523: maybe. devstack is... well it wouldnt suprise me | 18:33 |
| jrich523 | oh... is this going to be a common thing for me? :-/ | 18:34 |
| jrich523 | so i should slap "stack" in front of it? since thats the user it created | 18:34 |
| SamYaple | im not sure how devstack creates users, it might need nova or cinder or glance etc | 18:35 |
| SamYaple | i would purge devstack and retry | 18:35 |
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| jrich523 | should have snapped the OS :-/ | 18:35 |
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| SamYaple | whats the overall goal of this jrich523? | 18:36 |
| SamYaple | just deploy and test openstack? | 18:36 |
| jrich523 | yeah, learning mostly | 18:36 |
| jrich523 | seemed like it would a good sandbox method | 18:36 |
| SamYaple | check out kolla and OSA | 18:36 |
| jrich523 | k | 18:36 |
| SamYaple | kolla uses docker and ansible, OSA uses lxc and ansible | 18:36 |
| jrich523 | oh neat | 18:36 |
| SamYaple | ive worked on both, kolla is probably quicker/cleaner but OSA is more customizable (and you can dev against OSA) | 18:37 |
| jrich523 | so when you say dev, do you mean like modifying the core, or more like... err... im not sure what the right word would be.. since im pretty new... but like.. functionaltiy/pluggins | 18:38 |
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| SamYaple | jrich523: testing patches, fixing openstack bugs, etc | 18:39 |
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| SamYaple | jrich523: for normal usage of openstack, kolla or OSA are both fairly equal | 18:39 |
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| jrich523 | ok | 18:40 |
| jrich523 | awesome, appreciate you pointing me in the right direction | 18:40 |
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| SamYaple | jrich523: anytime | 18:41 |
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| mhayden | in mitaka, some of my instances are coming online with > 1 network ports on the same network -- one port will be up and the extras will be down | 19:09 |
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| mhayden | any tips on getting that sorted out? already verified that rabbitmq is sane | 19:09 |
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| mhayden | but in my build request, i only asked for one port on the VM | 19:09 |
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| lcurtis | hello all...wondering which is the more popular neutron ml2 configuration these days...OVS or linux bridge | 19:12 |
| D4RKS1D3 | How can i put templates in openstack to launch it? thanks | 19:12 |
| lcurtis | or what are people here using? | 19:12 |
| D4RKS1D3 | lcurtis, ovs or odl | 19:12 |
| lcurtis | D4RKS1D3 you are using ovs and odl? | 19:14 |
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| Sam-I-Am | lcurtis: depends what you're doing | 19:14 |
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| D4RKS1D3 | lcurtis, odl | 19:15 |
| lcurtis | essentially using as private virtualization cloud for our own use | 19:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | linuxbridge gets you the simplest environment | 19:15 |
| lcurtis | simple is good | 19:16 |
| lcurtis | lol | 19:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | its even better if you dont need 'routers' | 19:16 |
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| lcurtis | is there a guide for when to use which? | 19:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | well, there's the scenarios in the networking guide at docs.openstack.org | 19:18 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you can compare complexity in the diagrams | 19:18 |
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| lcurtis | thanks ...it has been a while and finally getting back to setting up environment | 19:19 |
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| lcurtis | is one more performant than the other? | 19:20 |
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| lcurtis | is there less overhead with LB | 19:20 |
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| lcurtis | from what I recall..RAX switched over to LB | 19:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | depends if you're using overlay-type networks | 19:20 |
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| Sam-I-Am | rax public cloud or private cloud? | 19:20 |
| D4RKS1D3 | Someone here can launch lxc containers in openstack? | 19:20 |
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| lcurtis | i thought it was in one of the clouds | 19:21 |
| lcurtis | saw in a presentation | 19:21 |
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| lcurtis | https://www.openstack.org/summit/openstack-paris-summit-2014/session-videos/presentation/migrating-production-workloads-from-ovs-to-linux-bridge-w-ml2 | 19:21 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yeah, thats probably the private cloud stuff | 19:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | which did change | 19:22 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the tl;dr is the simpler the architecture (some of which you can control), the more performant it would be | 19:23 |
| lcurtis | gotcha | 19:23 |
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| Sam-I-Am | linux bridge with only provider networks is about as simple as it gets | 19:23 |
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| lcurtis | yes it would seem | 19:23 |
| lcurtis | thanks so much for the help | 19:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | sure | 19:24 |
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| AndyWojo | What network type | 19:56 |
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| imperm | Is there a good nova client command to return the compute specs of a specific guest? | 21:13 |
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| Sam-I-Am | compute... specs? | 21:14 |
| imperm | Sam-I-Am: disk, ram, vcpus. | 21:14 |
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| Sam-I-Am | that'd be in the image | 21:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | the flavor, specifically | 21:15 |
| imperm | I mistyped. | 21:16 |
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| imperm | I'm interested in obtaining what each VM is actually using. Not its specs. | 21:16 |
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| imperm | I'm confused. | 21:17 |
| imperm | Let me ask a different question. | 21:17 |
| imperm | Regarding hypervisors... | 21:17 |
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| imperm | Or rackspace in general... | 21:17 |
| imperm | So...if I run a host-describe it shows me what is and is not being utilized. | 21:18 |
| imperm | Alright, forget all that, lol. | 21:18 |
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| imperm | I am interested in condensing one of my cloud environments. | 21:19 |
| imperm | That is the point of all this bullshit. | 21:19 |
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| imperm | I'm trying to discern what is being used, what is not, so that I can free up hypers. | 21:19 |
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| imperm | If anyone has any experience in doing this I would be very interested in hearing about your approach. | 21:20 |
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| Sam-I-Am | well 'openstack hypervisor stats show' would show you whats being used in your environment | 21:21 |
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| imperm | Pardon my ignorance, but is "openstack" an api client I can install similar to nova? | 21:24 |
| annegent_ | imperm yes, it basically is an overarching CLI | 21:24 |
| annegent_ | that calls novaclient etc | 21:24 |
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| imperm | ty. yum search returns no obvious packages. what am I doing wrong? | 21:25 |
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| annegent_ | imperm I was trying nova host-list followed by nova host-describe <host_name> and got something different | 21:25 |
| annegent_ | imperm pip install python-openstackclient | 21:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | imperm: old release? | 21:25 |
| imperm | of openstack? | 21:25 |
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| imperm | downloading | 21:26 |
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| imperm | downloading openstackclient uninstall nova client. I'm feeling a little detachment anxiety here. | 21:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | you dont need to remove anything | 21:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | there's probably an equivalent 'nova' command | 21:28 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i just provided the openstack one because i knew it | 21:28 |
| imperm | I didn't remove anything, I think pip did. | 21:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | you're not mixing pip and distro packages are you? | 21:29 |
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| imperm | I'm not quite sure. Let me try some openstack commands. I don't care what client I use, lol, as long as it hits our resources. | 21:30 |
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| annegent_ | imperm I wonder if what you want eventually is the evacuate command? I'm trying to see if there's a script on the openstack-operators list that would help | 21:30 |
| annegent_ | imperm was looking at this thread http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-operators/2014-February/004022.html | 21:31 |
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| annegent_ | thanks Sam-I-Am for the assist too. I have to drive now, but feel free to ask more. Sam-I-Am is the real expert. | 21:32 |
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| imperm | I appreciate the help. | 21:33 |
| imperm | So, unfortunately, any openstack command I call is throwing python errors. | 21:33 |
| imperm | We're running 2.6 throughout our infrastructure, but I do not think this is the problem. | 21:33 |
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| imperm | Will the openstack client require credentials of any kinds like keys, etc.? | 21:34 |
| imperm | secret access keys that is... | 21:34 |
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| imperm | It seems that Python 2.6 is not ideal for this, lol. | 21:35 |
| imperm | At least that's what google says. | 21:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | it requires credentials like other clients | 21:36 |
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| Sam-I-Am | what distro and openstack release is this? | 21:36 |
| imperm | Right, so if I only have nova secrets and don't want to generate new secrets for openstack client then this is pointless anyways... | 21:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | nova secrets? | 21:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | there's usually one set of creds for all commands | 21:37 |
| imperm | are there no secrets for the nova client? | 21:37 |
| imperm | there are secrets for the AWS api... | 21:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | there's usually some env vars | 21:38 |
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| imperm | seems like openstack requires Py > 2.7? | 21:39 |
| imperm | >= | 21:39 |
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| Sam-I-Am | for a while now, i think | 21:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | how old is this installation? | 21:39 |
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| imperm | openstack version? | 21:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | even the distro its running on | 21:40 |
| imperm | CentOS 6.5 | 21:40 |
| imperm | Py 2.6 | 21:40 |
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| imperm | openstack Grizzly? | 21:40 |
| imperm | old. | 21:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | haha | 21:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah | 21:40 |
| imperm | openstack Havana. | 21:41 |
| imperm | old. | 21:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah, i cant help you much | 21:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | thats so old i doubt there's any useful features | 21:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | its from 2013 | 21:41 |
| imperm | I understand. | 21:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | there is zero support for it | 21:41 |
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| imperm | Wow. | 21:41 |
| imperm | Forgive my ignorance, I am ONE-HUNDRED% new to openstack... | 21:41 |
| imperm | but I get it. | 21:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | well, tl;dr - you came across a very old deployment | 21:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | we're up to the letter "M" now | 21:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | with "N" coming out in a few months | 21:42 |
| imperm | fudge. | 21:42 |
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| imperm | okay. | 21:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | so whomever installed that stuff didnt maintain or upgrade it | 21:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | your best bet is to greenfield | 21:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | there's no upgrade path | 21:42 |
| imperm | it's all going away. | 21:42 |
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| imperm | these VMs, although numerous, are remnants of another plan which fell apart. | 21:43 |
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| imperm | back to nova, lol. | 21:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah, its probably a bit limited | 21:45 |
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