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cr0wrx | I did a packet capture on qbr### and qvb#### and saw the response on qbr, but not qvb. I'm not sure how the two are actually connected though (hard to find docs on qvb...all the tutorials and charts seem to leave that one out) | 00:00 |
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jidar | don't feel bad, it's black magic | 00:01 |
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cr0wrx | well that part confuses me..I'm not sure I have ever tracked it down. I can see how linux bridge stuff is configured, and I can see how ovs has ports configured....but at least on the compute node, I have no clue how the linux bridge connects over to ovs ports | 00:03 |
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cr0wrx | at least on neutron node, I thought there was a port in ovs on one of the bridges that lined up with something on linux bridge side, but I don't see that on compute node | 00:03 |
jidar | usually, as I understand it through tap ports | 00:03 |
jidar | which you may see with either a series of `ovs-vsctl show` commands and ifconfig/ip a, commands looking through the various bits | 00:04 |
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cr0wrx | anyone happen to know of any scripts or tools that make debugging and following the path of this stuff any easier than a series of manual commands :D | 00:06 |
jidar | hah | 00:06 |
cr0wrx | I recall one of the talks in austin someone saying they wrote a tool, and they would release it | 00:06 |
cr0wrx | haven't seen anything though :( | 00:06 |
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cr0wrx | makes my head hurt too much | 00:07 |
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jidar | I've been working through some neutron issues for a few days and I'm constantly feeling lost | 00:08 |
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cr0wrx | so on the compute node I see tap# which my understanding is right after eth0 for the instance. tap# -> qbr (linux bridge) + qvb ? -> ????? | 00:08 |
cr0wrx | ovs picks up with the qvo terminology and then you can follow that off compute node and whatnot it seems to neutron node | 00:09 |
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jidar | could be qvo0XXX | 00:09 |
jidar | if it's on a br-int | 00:09 |
cr0wrx | but there is a gap I don't understand around the qbr/qvb/qvo series | 00:09 |
jidar | so a tap is what connects to the VM usually | 00:09 |
jidar | or in all of the diagrams I see, what KVM is using to match up its port | 00:10 |
cr0wrx | yea, say tap12345 | 00:10 |
jidar | taps can be hooked up to bridges | 00:10 |
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jidar | and a bridge can be on eth0 for instance | 00:10 |
jidar | ovs plus all the other qvb/qvo stuff I'm not as sure about | 00:10 |
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Sam-I-Am | the networking guide shows you how all this stuff works | 00:10 |
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cr0wrx | the networking guide leaves out qvb | 00:11 |
cr0wrx | that's my issue | 00:11 |
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cr0wrx | well I mean, it's there | 00:12 |
cr0wrx | visually | 00:12 |
cr0wrx | I see eth0 -> tap -> iptables -> qvb -> qvo -> br-int | 00:12 |
cr0wrx | but at a technical level, I don't see how qvb -> qvo | 00:12 |
Sam-I-Am | its just the linux bridge side of the veth pair between ovs and the linux bridge that implements sec groups | 00:12 |
jidar | take a look at your ovs-ofctl show <bridge> | 00:12 |
Sam-I-Am | qvo is the ovs side of the veth pair | 00:13 |
cr0wrx | which do I plug in for <bridge> on ovs-ofctl show? | 00:13 |
Sam-I-Am | br-int at that point | 00:14 |
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cr0wrx | yea, and that outputs the qvo ports | 00:14 |
cr0wrx | but what I wonder is how do I check / see the mapping of qvb12345 -> qvo12345 | 00:15 |
jidar | that should show up in your `ovs-vsctl show` iirc | 00:15 |
cr0wrx | nope | 00:15 |
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Sam-I-Am | the numbers should be the same in the pair | 00:15 |
Sam-I-Am | its just a veth pair | 00:15 |
cr0wrx | qvb isn't listed anywhere in ovs-vsctl show | 00:15 |
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jidar | oh! | 00:16 |
Sam-I-Am | thats because ovs doesnt know what qvb is | 00:16 |
Sam-I-Am | its a veth pair | 00:16 |
Sam-I-Am | it just sees the end plugged into it (qvo) | 00:16 |
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cr0wrx | yea, so how do I list existing veth pairs? Maybe | 00:16 |
jidar | you know, you kept saying that and it just now clicked | 00:16 |
cr0wrx | is that a thing | 00:16 |
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Sam-I-Am | they'll show up in 'ip link show' | 00:16 |
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cr0wrx | ah, found a way to prove they connect | 00:20 |
cr0wrx | so ip link show will list them all but doesn't show who peer is from what I can tell | 00:20 |
cr0wrx | but ethtool -S qvo### will show index of the other | 00:20 |
cr0wrx | which you can then find with ip link show | 00:20 |
Sam-I-Am | yeah, you'd have to use the ifindex | 00:20 |
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Sam-I-Am | i thought they use the same numbers in the interface name | 00:21 |
cr0wrx | I mean they do | 00:21 |
cr0wrx | but that's just a policy / style thing | 00:21 |
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cr0wrx | what I've been wondering for a while is HOW they actually moved packets between them (and could run a command to show they were connected somehow) | 00:22 |
Sam-I-Am | packets go in one end of the veth pair and come out the other | 00:22 |
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Sam-I-Am | its like a virtual patch cable | 00:23 |
jidar | Sam-I-Am: is this the network guide you mentioned earlier: http://docs.openstack.org/mitaka/networking-guide/ | 00:23 |
Sam-I-Am | the layer-3 agent is a bit different though | 00:23 |
Sam-I-Am | it does something tricky | 00:23 |
Sam-I-Am | jidar: yeah | 00:23 |
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Sam-I-Am | jidar: i wrote most of that | 00:23 |
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jidar | re: veth pair, seriously you've been saying that for a while and it just clicked a minute ago | 00:23 |
Sam-I-Am | in fact, i'm updating it now | 00:23 |
cr0wrx | like ovs side of things you have patches and interfaces and flows with tags and you can follow it (with effort). And linux bridges you can run brctl show and see how things are bridged there...but I was missing how to show veth pairs | 00:23 |
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cr0wrx | the veth pair thing is what seems to connect the two worlds | 00:24 |
Sam-I-Am | in mitaka+ and the appropriate kernel/ovs version, you can do secgroups in ovs rather than needing a separate linux bridge and iptables | 00:24 |
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cr0wrx | at least in my mind | 00:24 |
jidar | nice | 00:24 |
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jidar | so I really like "Learning Openstack Networking (Neutron) - Second Edition" for the diagrams and explanations of the various commands that help track that stuff down | 00:25 |
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Sam-I-Am | problem with dead tree is they're relevant for about 6 months in openstack | 00:27 |
Sam-I-Am | but the concepts mostly stay the same | 00:27 |
jidar | so true | 00:27 |
Sam-I-Am | so the networking guide is the continually-updated version | 00:27 |
Sam-I-Am | or updates as often as possible | 00:27 |
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cr0wrx | yea I read the earlier part of that book and it helped me understand at least some of basic concepts for neutron and how it's handled. It was good for me because it goes into more details on linux bridges and ovs and things that are sort of pre-req for the networking guide online | 00:29 |
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cr0wrx | This is my first time really working with any of these sdn concepts | 00:29 |
Sam-I-Am | i'm trying to improve the intro content in the networking guide | 00:30 |
cr0wrx | and luckily it's still pretty current in that book for core pieces. Other stuff I'm sure is more dated (like later chapters on vpn/lbaas/etc) | 00:30 |
Sam-I-Am | its just a lot of work... and its mostly just me | 00:30 |
jidar | yea, I'm more interested in it for the core concepts than how vpn/lbaas/firewalling works today | 00:30 |
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cr0wrx | thanks sam :) It's actually a good guide, just requires a bit of understanding of things up front...It's a good reference anyways, I always find myself searching for how networking works and re-reading parts of the networking guide | 00:31 |
cr0wrx | like once a week, haha | 00:31 |
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jidar | yea, seriously thanks for all of your hard work on this Sam-I-Am | 00:31 |
jidar | I must have thanked you 100 times by now hahah | 00:31 |
Sam-I-Am | heh | 00:31 |
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Sam-I-Am | i'm reorganizing the networking guide to use a building blocks structure | 00:31 |
cr0wrx | ok now time to figure out what this allowed address things is all about :/ hope it's not hard cuz it would be awesome to get this working tonight | 00:32 |
Sam-I-Am | pick a mechanism driver (ovs or lb), start with provider nets, add self-service nets, add HA of some sort. | 00:32 |
Sam-I-Am | less repetition of content is one upside | 00:32 |
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cr0wrx | oh I know I've asked this before in here but never got very far - are you familiar with provider nets? I added a couple more but there are some really strange things with them :/ On both liberty and mitaka | 00:33 |
Sam-I-Am | "strange" | 00:33 |
cr0wrx | I added a couple more provider networks and it all works fine, but I wanted them to be private or restricted to a single tenant | 00:33 |
cr0wrx | they aren't | 00:33 |
cr0wrx | for a provider network you set the network as external | 00:34 |
cr0wrx | but as soon as you do that, any tenant can set it as the gateway for a router | 00:34 |
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cr0wrx | even if you create the network / assign it to a specific tenant | 00:34 |
Sam-I-Am | if you don't include --shared it wont | 00:34 |
cr0wrx | no, it does | 00:35 |
cr0wrx | that's the strange part | 00:35 |
cr0wrx | both liberty and mitaka, having same issue | 00:35 |
cr0wrx | it's external, not shared | 00:35 |
cr0wrx | assigned to tenantA | 00:35 |
cr0wrx | tenantB can set it as a gateway | 00:35 |
Sam-I-Am | well, it technically doesnt need router:external | 00:35 |
Sam-I-Am | then routers cant plug into it | 00:35 |
Sam-I-Am | take off --shared and router:external and it should act as a network for a single project | 00:36 |
cr0wrx | well, I thought you had to set external to get floating ips from it | 00:36 |
Sam-I-Am | provider nets dont have floating ips | 00:36 |
Sam-I-Am | they're just layer-2 | 00:36 |
Sam-I-Am | the router:external flag enables self-service routers to plug into the network, and those routers actually implement fips | 00:37 |
cr0wrx | I thought floating pool comes from them? So if you have a provider on 10.0.5.0/24, tenantA and tenantB can both allocate from same pool | 00:37 |
Sam-I-Am | the floating ip allocation resides on the provider network to which the router attaches, but the router actually implements the fip bits. | 00:38 |
Sam-I-Am | instances connected directly to a provider network don't use fips, they directly consume ips from the provider net allocation | 00:39 |
cr0wrx | I'll have to play around and try with not setting router:external | 00:39 |
cr0wrx | it's definitely not shared though, never has been | 00:39 |
Sam-I-Am | (the same allocation that would be fips if those instances were on a self-service network) | 00:39 |
cr0wrx | but marking external essentially makes it shared :/ Because all someone has to do is spin up their own router, set it's gateway, and attach their own networks to their own router | 00:39 |
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Sam-I-Am | if you want to limit who can attach routers to a router:external net, you can use rbac | 00:42 |
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cr0wrx | and the other weirdness, but this may just be a horizon thing, is when you go to allocate an IP, it gives you all the provider nets to choose from, even if the instance doesn't have connectivity to that network (again, because it's marked external I think). It seems like it would be better to just show ones that will work. They may not have that provider network set as a gateway but it's still always in the drop down | 00:42 |
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Sam-I-Am | interestingly, nova (compute) has no idea which networks reside on which nodes | 00:44 |
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Sam-I-Am | the assumption is that a provider network is available everywhere unless you use availability zones or something of that sort | 00:44 |
cr0wrx | or in my case only want it restricted to specific tenant :D | 00:45 |
Sam-I-Am | i think there's some work going on to make compute a bit more aware of network availability. | 00:45 |
cr0wrx | basically I use them to get separate floating ip pool ranges for prod/dev/research/etc... | 00:45 |
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Sam-I-Am | fips are sort of meh | 00:46 |
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cr0wrx | well, kinda a big deal though right :D I mean, you almost always gotta have plenty of them and use them unless everything you do is in openstack | 00:47 |
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Sam-I-Am | provider nets | 00:47 |
cr0wrx | and for us, openstack is just one piece of a massive internal network and we have to interact with all of it. It's a nightmare | 00:47 |
cr0wrx | and I don't have a clue what I'm doing | 00:48 |
Sam-I-Am | if you want your instances to talk directly to a 'real' network, you can just use provider nets | 00:48 |
Sam-I-Am | eliminate the l3 agent bottleneck | 00:48 |
cr0wrx | maybe you and I aren't speaking the same thing when we talk about provider nets | 00:48 |
cr0wrx | so I imagine I'm wrong | 00:48 |
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Sam-I-Am | have you used vmware? | 00:48 |
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cr0wrx | I've used workstation and vsphere and all, I haven't done much with their products from a management perspective..just user | 00:49 |
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Sam-I-Am | well, the networks you create in vmware (vswitches, etc) are provider networks | 00:49 |
Sam-I-Am | they're just layer-2 and use vlan tagging | 00:49 |
Sam-I-Am | all vmware does is extend those layer-2 networks into virtual land where your instances run | 00:50 |
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Sam-I-Am | granted, provider nets arent very 'cloudy' because your projects/tenants can't manage them, but they're simple. | 00:51 |
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cr0wrx | well, they shouldn't manage them anyways? They should manage their cloudy networks... | 00:51 |
cr0wrx | idk, maybe I only halfway get provider nets | 00:51 |
Sam-I-Am | they manage self-service networks, which are entirely virtual | 00:52 |
cr0wrx | yes | 00:52 |
cr0wrx | but they can overlap, and you can't do that with real network external to openstack | 00:52 |
Sam-I-Am | well, nothing says you can't have two layer-2 networks using the same IP range | 00:53 |
Sam-I-Am | how you handle that on the back end gets interesting, but its entirely possible | 00:53 |
jidar | yea, that's not a cloud thing at all | 00:53 |
cr0wrx | so for us, I added bridge mappings and bridges and interfaces and whatnot to create new openstack external networks, each of those has a subset of the larger "real" cidr exposed to openstack cluster outside of openstack | 00:53 |
jidar | just different broadcast domains (or l2) segments and you can overlap IPs | 00:53 |
jidar | routing on the other hand :P | 00:53 |
Sam-I-Am | difference is, an administrator has to choose those ranges and do all the foot work. with self-service networks, tenants can choose arbitrary ip ranges and you dont have to think about it, or care. | 00:53 |
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jidar | often in provider networks you have external hardware (like a switch) doing routing, so you'll have to set that up first | 00:54 |
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Sam-I-Am | provider nets essentially rely on physical infrastructure for routing | 00:56 |
jidar | so lots of that self service stuff goes out the window :P | 00:56 |
cr0wrx | well yes, I get that, and we have an external switch | 00:56 |
Sam-I-Am | you can mix provider and self-service networks | 00:57 |
cr0wrx | but, it sounded like it does that without needing fip in openstack | 00:57 |
jidar | fip + provider networks hardly makes sense | 00:57 |
cr0wrx | but I thought fip is how you take one of those IPs from that external physical infrastructure routing (mapped from some vlan or however it's handled) and map it to an instance in openstack | 00:57 |
Sam-I-Am | fips do one thing - they enable outside connectivity to instances on self-service networks that use arbitrary (and often rfc1918) ip addresses. | 00:57 |
jidar | yea, ^ it's good for overlay networks | 00:57 |
jidar | like I'm using vxlan and I need to get that network outside | 00:58 |
Sam-I-Am | its essentially dnat happening on the router | 00:58 |
jidar | so I'll connect a fip to that instance and let him do his thing | 00:58 |
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jidar | s/get that network outside/expose that ip outside | 00:58 |
Sam-I-Am | alternatively, you can just boot an instance directly on the provider network and give it what would otherwise have been a floating IP. no router. no mess. | 00:58 |
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jidar | hence, fip and provider networks don't make sense | 00:58 |
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cr0wrx | Well, I gotta find some more articles to read or something because I'm still lost. Your last alternatively part I'm not sure how that is done | 00:59 |
jidar | together anyhow | 00:59 |
Sam-I-Am | booting an instance on a provider net would pull from the same ip pool as a fip would | 00:59 |
jidar | *could you mean | 00:59 |
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cr0wrx | maybe I just need to go try it and see what happens, ha | 00:59 |
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Sam-I-Am | take a look at the provider net scenario in the networking guide | 01:00 |
jidar | I just think of it this way, provider networks are about as close as you can get to droping a VM on a vlan and letting it take care of it's thing | 01:00 |
cr0wrx | if they are tagged as external you can't spin up a VM directly on it, and I thought we had to have external when creating these things | 01:00 |
cr0wrx | but from all the talk tonight, it sounds like maybe I can just drop the external flag, forget using the self service router, and just attach that same provider network directly to an instance | 01:00 |
cr0wrx | and maybe it would just work | 01:00 |
jidar | you can spin one up, I bet you there just isn't a dhcp agent / whatever running on it though | 01:01 |
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jidar | and that's likely the issue | 01:01 |
Sam-I-Am | well, you dont have to disable dhcp on a provider net | 01:01 |
Sam-I-Am | just make sure it wont be conflicting with a dhcp server elsewhere | 01:01 |
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Sam-I-Am | when you create the subnet, dont use --disable-dhcp | 01:01 |
Sam-I-Am | and if it will conflict, you can use other ways to assign ip addresses | 01:01 |
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jidar | I assume it's the --router:external that's tripping him up | 01:02 |
cr0wrx | I'm gonna have to play with that tomorrow or this weekend | 01:02 |
Sam-I-Am | working on weekends = bad | 01:02 |
cr0wrx | if its doable it may make my life easier | 01:02 |
cr0wrx | working on weekends is the only time I get to learn :/ during the week I gotta (try) to make magic happen | 01:03 |
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jidar | speaking of, I need to take off - it's too late for me to be working :P | 01:03 |
jidar | thanks for the chat guys | 01:03 |
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Sam-I-Am | yeah, i'm about to split too | 01:04 |
Sam-I-Am | must locate food | 01:04 |
cr0wrx | like now, gotta get this vpn nat thing figured out...then I can dive back into fixing all my past mistakes for provider network :P That would be nice though because the way I do it now users have to create a floating ip basically for every instance (they don't care about cloudy networks for the most part...they just want an IP to SSH to and access to things) | 01:04 |
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cr0wrx | thanks! | 01:04 |
Sam-I-Am | yeah, you can probably eliminate fips | 01:04 |
Sam-I-Am | i'll be around tomorrow | 01:05 |
cr0wrx | you shouldn't have told me that | 01:05 |
cr0wrx | haha | 01:05 |
cr0wrx | I'll be back I'm sure | 01:05 |
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cr0wrx | AH HA! Not too bad, if you are there still Sam-I-Am, thanks again. allowed-address-pairs seems to have solved the problem I spent half the day on with no progress. Seems to work, will have to verify closer tomorrow but setting to allow 0.0.0.0/0 seems to have done it (whether that will cause issues somehow, idk) | 01:20 |
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campee | hi | 01:24 |
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campee | anyone want to answer some newb questions about cinder and iscsi? | 01:25 |
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TheFueley | Hello, I don't suppose there's anyone that could help me with this neutron error: | 03:56 |
TheFueley | (OperationalError) no such table: ml2_gre_allocations u'SELECT ml2_gre_allocations.gre_id AS ml2_gre_allocations_gre_id, ml2_gre_allocations.allocated AS ml2_gre_allocations_allocated \nFROM ml2_gre_allocations' () | 03:56 |
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TheFueley | Hello, I don't suppose there's anyone that could help me with this neutron error: | 04:02 |
TheFueley | (OperationalError) no such table: ml2_gre_allocations u'SELECT ml2_gre_allocations.gre_id AS ml2_gre_allocations_gre_id, ml2_gre_allocations.allocated AS ml2_gre_allocations_allocated \nFROM ml2_gre_allocations' () | 04:02 |
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Sam-I-Am | TheFueley: sounds like you didn't populate the db properly | 04:31 |
Sam-I-Am | or its not the correct version | 04:31 |
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Sam-I-Am | there's a neutron db manage command | 04:31 |
Sam-I-Am | anyway, i'm off to bed | 04:31 |
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TheFueley | Sam-I-Am, well, this server has been running juno for a long time now. We had to shutdown some instances today and now we cant reach them | 04:32 |
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JustinHitla | what is this channel about ? | 06:51 |
JustinHitla | what is openstack ? | 06:51 |
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KpuCko | :-)) | 06:52 |
KpuCko | JustinHitla are you living in 21 century? | 06:53 |
JustinHitla | yes | 06:53 |
KpuCko | https://www.openstack.org/ | 06:53 |
JustinHitla | I don't have free screen windows to open that link in lynx | 06:53 |
KpuCko | you can open that link in lynx | 06:54 |
JustinHitla | I don't have free screen windows | 06:54 |
KpuCko | use firefox ;> | 06:54 |
JustinHitla | no | 06:54 |
JustinHitla | something telling me you are Bulgarian | 06:54 |
KpuCko | so what? | 06:54 |
JustinHitla | nothing | 06:55 |
KpuCko | i understand, you just need somebody to chat | 06:55 |
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JustinHitla | really | 07:00 |
JustinHitla | JustinHitla: what are they talking about, I don't need anyone to chat, am I right | 07:01 |
JustinHitla | JustinHitla: you always right | 07:01 |
JustinHitla | JustinHitla: do you know what openstack is ? | 07:02 |
JustinHitla | JustinHitla: no never heard of it | 07:02 |
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Shengping | hello friend is any irc for devstack ? | 07:24 |
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dspd | Hello Stackers, I have a query that I'm hoping to get your advise on.. I'm trying to use the nova API to 'GET' details of a server by matching its name.. things are fine as long as there aren't special characters in the name. but I am unable to query for names containing '(' or ')' | 08:16 |
dspd | e.g. : <url>servers?name=abc is fine, but fails for name=inst_1_(test)_os | 08:17 |
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dspd | I tried url encoding the name, but that returns empty results.. has anyone been able to get around this? | 08:18 |
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nexusguy59 | Good morning everyone | 10:35 |
nexusguy59 | I have a perplexing issue | 10:35 |
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nexusguy59 | When I launch an instance with OenStack it's not detecking the disk that I choose with the flavor (ex: small) should create a 20 gb disk and install it on the disk however the os is not detecting the disk. Where do I look to see what's going on and how do I fix it | 10:37 |
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nexusguy59 | not detecking * detecting | 10:40 |
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prateek | nexusguy59, go to /var/lib/nova/instances/, that is where you can find the disk for your instance | 11:09 |
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prateek | nexusguy59, also what do you mean the os is not detecting the disk | 11:10 |
prateek | nexusguy59, the images are qcow2 images and you would not see full 20 gigs as the disk | 11:11 |
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nexusguy59 | Well I am trying to install Ubuntu 16.04, it scans for disks then asks me for a driver for the disk my assumption is if it's asking for a driver it doesn't see the disk' | 11:12 |
prateek | you are trying to install ubuntu on a VM you created using openstack ? | 11:13 |
nexusguy59 | YEs I Am lauching an instance with the Ubuntu Cloaud image attached to it | 11:13 |
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nexusguy59 | Oops sorry for the typo cloaud is Cloud | 11:14 |
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: Precise tests on OSIC provider are currently failing, please stop your checks until the issue is resolved. | 11:15 | |
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nexusguy59 | I Am very new to OpenStack so please forgive my stupidty whnen asking questions | 11:18 |
nexusguy59 | whnen * when | 11:19 |
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: DSVM jobs on OSIC currently failing because of IP collisions, fix is in the gate - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/357764/ - please hold rechecks until merged | 11:20 | |
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prateek | nexusguy59, can you paste the command you are using to launch the instance ? | 11:23 |
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: OSIC has burned through the problematic IP range with failures, things should be back to normal now. | 11:48 | |
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nexusguy59 | prateek, not launching from cli, I am launching from WebUI | 11:50 |
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nexusguy59 | And the instance is stored on a compute node I was able to find the instance | 11:52 |
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prateek | nexusguy59, ideally the qcow2 image you are using would have the things required for the instance to boot | 11:53 |
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prateek | nexusguy59, and if you see the instance then it has booted | 11:53 |
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nexusguy59 | Yes sir I agree, I am working on it, I am just trying to get s little help to get me there lol | 11:53 |
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nexusguy59 | Yes now it is a matter of the correct keypair assigned to it so I can ssh into it | 11:57 |
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nexusguy59 | Well shucks I created a keypair and applied and still won;t let me login | 12:27 |
nexusguy59 | won't even | 12:27 |
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RootJ | Hi i have a question | 12:46 |
RootJ | if anyone i swilling to help | 12:46 |
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RootJ | with the murano aplication catalog | 12:46 |
Qlawy | Where I can set migration timeout for instance? | 12:47 |
Qlawy | it seems to be 150 or 180 sec however copying 22G disk takes a bit longer :/ | 12:47 |
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Sam-I-Am | Qlawy: might be a good idea to use shared storage | 12:49 |
RootJ | Ok so..... | 12:49 |
RootJ | my question is this | 12:49 |
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RootJ | because im doing the murano project as my thesis | 12:49 |
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RootJ | If im running the project under my virtual machine (+ all the slaves) and when i want to deploy an application or multiple, where does the application save too, on the image or in 1 image ect ect...? | 12:50 |
nexusguy59 | Hmmm why is my ketpairs not working, I still get prompted for login creds | 12:51 |
Sam-I-Am | nexusguy59: probably because metadata isnt working | 12:51 |
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nexusguy59 | Great okay of to google land I go then lol | 12:51 |
RootJ | or in real life if we have a legit server where they have the OpenStack horizon working on ... | 12:51 |
nexusguy59 | Sam-I-Am, Thanks man this is starting to be a full time job hehehe | 12:52 |
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Sam-I-Am | nexusguy59: welcome to my world since 2013 | 12:55 |
RootJ | so Sam can you explain that to me if its possible? | 12:55 |
RootJ | sorry for bugging into your conversation | 12:55 |
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Sam-I-Am | RootJ: i havent used murano | 13:00 |
RootJ | ohhh | 13:00 |
nexusguy59 | Wonderful Sam-I-Am, it appears metadata is not loading for the glance images, I believe there in lies my problem | 13:00 |
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Sam-I-Am | nexusguy59: they're booting, but not getting md via neutron, or some other way isnt working? | 13:01 |
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nexusguy59 | <- lol That's my next project to tackle how to add the App Catalog, Oh Boy | 13:01 |
Jehane | hi, I'm trying to setup multi-domains and ldap and we are struggling with groups | 13:01 |
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Jehane | anyone here use ldap groupOfMembers ? | 13:01 |
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nexusguy59 | Sam-I-Am, got ya well dang now I have to really search and resolve this is driving me nuts lol' | 13:02 |
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nexusguy59 | Nothing is as easy as it appears is i? Lord Have Mercy | 13:03 |
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RootJ | nexus: well as i see it, installing murano and then basically installing the horizon dashboard , as i see on a virtual computer the DHCP is *auto* thx to Neutron and then from there on you make an environment put the apps in and your kinda good to go as I see it if you want to test it out | 13:03 |
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RootJ | whats the server name and port for the mIRC , because i want to go to the murano channel... | 13:04 |
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nexusguy59 | I will give it a shot after i tackle this first problem I am having, of course my install has no App Catalog at all so I may have to start from scratch again lol | 13:04 |
Sam-I-Am | there might be a #openstack-murano | 13:04 |
Sam-I-Am | but its likely for developers, not users | 13:05 |
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nexusguy59 | I think there is as well as #opnstach-appcatalog | 13:05 |
nexusguy59 | oops #openstack-appcatalog | 13:05 |
RootJ | yes but i need the serve rinfo | 13:05 |
RootJ | info* | 13:05 |
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nexusguy59 | wait it's openstack-app-catalog | 13:06 |
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RootJ | i know chat.freenode.net is the server but the port? | 13:06 |
Sam-I-Am | its the same server info as this channel | 13:06 |
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lastmikoi | Reading up on the possibility for me to deploy a singlenode openstack for personal use, seems like the deployment solutions are either >=2 nodes (TripleO) or non-production-ready (Packstack, Devstack). Is there a "production-ready" (read: as stable as possible) way of deploying a single-node openstack ? | 13:06 |
nexusguy59 | I don;t have a clue prolly 6777 | 13:06 |
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Sam-I-Am | lastmikoi: no one uses a single node in production | 13:07 |
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Sam-I-Am | thus, no | 13:07 |
Sketch | RootJ: you're already on freenode... but generally 6667 | 13:07 |
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nexusguy59 | port 6667 my bad | 13:07 |
Sam-I-Am | single-node envs are usually for development/testing | 13:07 |
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RootJ | Sketch: I'm currently on this channel thru the website not the official program | 13:08 |
Sam-I-Am | lastmikoi: you might look at openstack-ansible. it has a single node option. | 13:08 |
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lastmikoi | Sam-I-Am: Will look into it, thanks. | 13:09 |
RootJ | found it! thank you | 13:10 |
nexusguy59 | lastmikoi, http://www.linuxtechi.com/single-node-openstack-liberty-installation-centos-7/ <- THis one worked but I liked Ubuntu so I used this one -> http://serenity-networks.com/installing-ubuntu-openstack-on-a-single-machine-instead-of-7/, But this was so I could get familiar with it | 13:10 |
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TheFueley | Anyone know why I would be able to ping my neutron router but it doesn't pass traffic into the guest network side? I have all ports open in security group | 13:11 |
nexusguy59 | <- Is always messing with stuff 4 servers in my Mini-DataCenter homelab | 13:11 |
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lastmikoi | nexusguy59: Seems like the centos7 guide uses packstack, which would hint at a reasonable stability :) Thanks. | 13:12 |
nexusguy59 | No Problem lastmikoi glad I could help | 13:12 |
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pabut | Hey all ... still having problems with my "textbook" install of mitaka on Trusty .... nova image-list thows an exception while glance image-list or openstack image-list work fine .... works check and rechecked the config ... nova.conf ... glance-registry.conf ... glance-api.conf .... | 13:30 |
pabut | from glance-api.log: | 13:30 |
pabut | 2016-08-18 20:59:14.188 16900 INFO eventlet.wsgi.server [req-f1766a2b-aa06-4528-a917-b99edbbc3336 b7629dd96f98477cb006a2469dda8234 21a9f73fa5f34d4d81eac8122b13090a - - -] 192.168.22.49 - - [18/Aug/2016 20:59:14] "GET /v1/images/detail?is_public=none&limit=20 HTTP/1.1" 500 454 0.820971 | 13:30 |
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pabut | when I google I see LOTS of people with the problem but no solutions .... is there something missing in the documentation?? | 13:34 |
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kur1j | Can someone tell me if they have been able to successfully get the "Resize" option to work when going from a larger VM instance to a smaller instance (with a smaller drive) in the lastest stable version of OS Nova? | 14:10 |
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Qlawy | Sam-I-Am: I know shared storage would be the best but there is no really good solution for this | 15:54 |
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Qlawy | Sam-I-Am: NFS is slow and I cannot use benefits from having SAN (over FC) | 15:54 |
JustinHitla | samba ? | 15:55 |
Qlawy | Sam-I-Am: I tried ocfs2 but it is very ... well tricky. | 15:55 |
Qlawy | JustinHitla: same problem as with NFS :( no benefits from having SAN :( | 15:55 |
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Qlawy | glusterfs seemes to not be "production ready" or those were (ibm) GPFS fanboys telling this | 15:56 |
Qlawy | and I read, somewhere, that having shared storage is not cloudish ;) | 15:57 |
Qlawy | https://thornelabs.net/2014/06/14/do-not-use-shared-storage-for-openstack-instances.html maybe that was this article | 15:58 |
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SiCiLiAnO | 1 Abbraccio A TuTTi . . . . Ciao AmiCi Di >>> #openstack <<< SoNo CoN Voi   | 16:03 |
SiCiLiAnO | hallo | 16:03 |
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Sam-I-Am | Qlawy: there might be a misunderstanding between shared storage and what cinder does | 16:05 |
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Sam-I-Am | shared storage might imply that all instances share storage that can be a single point of failure | 16:06 |
Sam-I-Am | the point of cinder is enabling you to move an instance and having it reconnect to storage rather than copying the whole thing over | 16:06 |
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Sam-I-Am | cinder can use a number of different backends that instances dont need to know the details about | 16:07 |
Qlawy | Sam-I-Am: we are using cinder now, but.. my users want snapshots :/ | 16:07 |
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Qlawy | and possiblity to restore them | 16:08 |
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Qlawy | rebuilding instance from volume is "in progress" state | 16:08 |
Sam-I-Am | snapshot the cinder volumes? | 16:08 |
Qlawy | great, but how to revert? ;) | 16:08 |
Qlawy | I know how to deploy new one | 16:08 |
Qlawy | in normal software there is no problem but... it is WebSphere :/ | 16:09 |
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Sam-I-Am | you can boot from a snapshot cant you? | 16:09 |
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Qlawy | but with different hostname | 16:09 |
Qlawy | btw: my users are blind for other solutions than vmware style snapshots and I hate it :/ | 16:09 |
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Sam-I-Am | well, that's not an openstack problem | 16:10 |
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Qlawy | agree ;) | 16:10 |
Sam-I-Am | openstack is not vmware | 16:10 |
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Sam-I-Am | same with people who expect live migration. also not a cloudy thing. | 16:10 |
Qlawy | all I need is: how can I change timeout for migration | 16:10 |
Qlawy | Sam-I-Am: yeah :( | 16:10 |
Sketch | Sam-I-Am: live migration seems to work pretty well with openstack | 16:10 |
Qlawy | Sketch: it is | 16:10 |
Sam-I-Am | you shouldn't have 22 gb vms that live entirely on compute nodes | 16:10 |
Sketch | or do people expect automatic live migration | 16:11 |
Sam-I-Am | that's just a recipe for disaster | 16:11 |
Sketch | it works pretty well with some form of shared storage anyway ;) | 16:11 |
Qlawy | agree as hell | 16:11 |
Sam-I-Am | Sketch: it works, but its not cloudy. | 16:11 |
Sam-I-Am | the idea of cloud is that instances (and compute nodes) can come and go, and your application (and its users) don't notice anything | 16:11 |
Sam-I-Am | instances also come up nearly instantly (which means they arent huge) | 16:12 |
Qlawy | clue of problem is: application | 16:12 |
Qlawy | or ... oldstyle applocation | 16:12 |
Qlawy | but as I said: I agree with anything you told | 16:13 |
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Sam-I-Am | is it nova or libvirt that's timing out? | 16:14 |
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Sam-I-Am | i think this might be a libvirt option you need to pass | 16:14 |
Qlawy | let me show you | 16:14 |
Sam-I-Am | well, i gotta run for a bit... probably back in an hour | 16:15 |
Qlawy | Migration running for 30 secs, memory 100% remaining; (bytes processed=0, remaining=0, total=0) | 16:15 |
TheFueley | anyone know how to troubleshoot why an instance router won't pass traffic to guest network? security group rules are wide open too | 16:15 |
Qlawy | this is from nova | 16:15 |
Qlawy | INFO nova.virt.libvirt.driver | 16:15 |
Qlawy | after 150 it tels me that it failed | 16:16 |
Qlawy | but I was looking for copied files | 16:16 |
Qlawy | it just did not finish copy on time | 16:16 |
Qlawy | and it why it timed out | 16:16 |
Qlawy | TheFueley: can you ping router IP from both sides? | 16:16 |
TheFueley | I can ping it from the public side. I can try from the internal side | 16:17 |
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Qlawy | TheFueley: try to do it | 16:17 |
Qlawy | TheFueley: last time I had such problem I just forgot to add inetfrace from guest/internal network to router | 16:17 |
TheFueley | Qlawy, I can ping internal side this way: ip netns exec qrouter-33c3dc4b-2e9e-484e-949c-0f2372dc089c ping -c 2 10.10.1.1 | 16:18 |
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TheFueley | Qlawy, I can't reach the guest VM's so i had to do it that way | 16:18 |
Qlawy | qrouter-33c3dc4b-2e9e-484e-949c-0f2372dc089c is your router namespace? | 16:19 |
Qlawy | I guess so | 16:19 |
TheFueley | Qlawy, Yes. | 16:19 |
Qlawy | and 10.10.1.1 is not your VM ip, but your router IP, isnt it? | 16:20 |
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TheFueley | Qlawy, correct | 16:20 |
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TheFueley | the guest VMs all have floating IPs on provider network but I can't ping them | 16:20 |
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Qlawy | try to ping VM ip from that namespace | 16:23 |
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Qlawy | btw, are you sure they have fixed ips properly assigned? I mean try (vnc) console or get logs from vm and check if they received IPs | 16:24 |
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TheFueley | Qlawy, hmm. no responses from there | 16:27 |
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Qlawy | TheFueley: so, problem is somewhere here :) | 16:28 |
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Qlawy | Sam-I-Am: ha! live_migration_progress_timeout = 150 | 16:29 |
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Qlawy | TheFueley: confirm ip assignement by getting console dump from VM | 16:30 |
TheFueley | Qlawy, alright | 16:30 |
Qlawy | TheFueley: nova console-log | 16:30 |
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TheFueley | Qlawy, hmm. empty output nova console-log VMname | 16:31 |
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Qlawy | what hypervisor are you using? | 16:31 |
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trevormc | Hi I'm trying to install devstack but I can't get past this error: "++lib/keystone:create_keystone_accounts:383 openstack project show admin -f value -c id Discovering versions from the identity service failed when creating the password plugin. Attempting to determine version from URL." | 16:53 |
trevormc | it's related to this question https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/86071/devstack-installation-failure/ | 16:53 |
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trevormc | Other answers like http://askubuntu.com/questions/720967/internal-server-error-http-500-when-issuing-an-authentication-token-for-openst say to open openstack-dashboard and rename local_path but no such file exists for me. I'm using the trove-integration project which makes me local.conf look like this http://paste.openstack.org/show/561436/ | 16:56 |
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jidar | when I create an instance the neutron port doesn't get a veth (qvo/qvb) port created on the br-int, I'm fairly sure this is the issue so what defines this specific function? | 17:02 |
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dspd | Hello Stackers, I have a query that I'm hoping to get your advise on.. I'm trying to use the nova API to 'GET' details of a server by matching its name.. things are fine as long as there aren't special characters in the name. but I am unable to query for names containing '(' or ')' e.g. : <url>servers?name=abc is fine, but fails for name=inst_1_(test)_os I tried url encoding the name, but that returns empty results.. has anyone been | 17:15 |
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jidar | is this a REST call? and you said you tried encoding, I don't recall () being special characters for that | 18:47 |
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larsks | dspd: does the nova or openstack cli work correctly? You can run it in debug mode to see exactly what url it is requesting... | 20:10 |
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rootJ | hi everyone | 20:23 |
rootJ | i have a question about deploying an environment | 20:24 |
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cr0wrx | anyone around familiar with provider network stuff? I thought I had it working, but for some reason only seems to be working on one compute host, not others | 20:29 |
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larsks | 619699 | 20:30 |
larsks | 548999 | 20:30 |
larsks | Wow, sorry, yubikey babbling. | 20:30 |
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Sam-I-Am | cr0wrx: still hacking at it? | 20:33 |
cr0wrx | yes sir | 20:34 |
cr0wrx | so based on your suggestions last night, I created a network that is not router:external | 20:35 |
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cr0wrx | I spun up an instance, and it got an IP from the subnet allocation range as expected, all was good | 20:35 |
cr0wrx | I just spun up another node, came up on another compute host, can't hit it | 20:35 |
cr0wrx | I'm not sure what's different. | 20:35 |
cr0wrx | On each compute node I created interfaces same way (essentially bridge to vlan 40 and then ovs side brings up a bridge with a patch to br-int) | 20:36 |
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Sam-I-Am | is vlan 40 making it there? is it in the bridge mapping? | 20:37 |
rootJ | why can't i deploy a instance | 20:37 |
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cr0wrx | yes I updated bridge mapping on all compute nodes and restarted openvswitch agent | 20:38 |
rootJ | No valid host was found, there are not enough hotst avaliable | 20:38 |
cr0wrx | and vlan 40 should be making it there, I would think....on the physical switch all ports are set to trunk 40 | 20:38 |
cr0wrx | however, when I run tcpdump -i eno####.40 icmp on the vlan on compute hosts, I don't see any requests coming in - should i? | 20:39 |
Sam-I-Am | wait... the switch tags vlan 40, yet you have a enoXXX.40 on the compute node? | 20:39 |
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cr0wrx | no the switch should just pass vlan 40 | 20:40 |
cr0wrx | to appropriate switch ports | 20:40 |
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Sam-I-Am | whats the ovs bridge name? | 20:41 |
cr0wrx | br-dev | 20:41 |
Sam-I-Am | what interface is plugged into br-dev? and what's the provider network type? | 20:41 |
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cr0wrx | provider network type is flat | 20:41 |
cr0wrx | basically I have several provider networks all set as type flat, with a linux bridge that joins the ovs interface to eno12345.40 | 20:42 |
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Sam-I-Am | why doesnt .40 plug directly into br-xxx ? | 20:43 |
Sam-I-Am | whats the linux bridge doing? | 20:43 |
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rootJ | Sam | 20:43 |
cr0wrx | is there a way I can verify the packet is actually arriving to the compute host? I'm wondering if it's a caching issue somewhere or something? Again, tcpdump -i eno12345.40 icmp doesn't show anything coming in if I am trying to hit the new provider network | 20:44 |
rootJ | can you help me out with the OpenStack Instance so i can deploy Aplications? | 20:44 |
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cr0wrx | br-ex has interfaces eno12345.40 and also the new dev ovs interface, and also the old p_ff798dba-0 interface (from floating IPs) | 20:45 |
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Sam-I-Am | you can only have 1 flat network per ovs bridge and per physical interface | 20:46 |
oncall-pokemon | Hey I was wondering if anybody knew of a way with fog to ensure an api call goes to and works with the compute process on hypervisor? | 20:46 |
cr0wrx | sure. Hence I have different "physical" interfaces (all connected to br-ex) | 20:46 |
cr0wrx | it's worked up until now anyways :/ | 20:47 |
cr0wrx | and it's working on one compute host | 20:47 |
cr0wrx | just not the others | 20:47 |
Sam-I-Am | rootJ: does nova service-list show the compute node? | 20:47 |
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rootJ | am.. one second | 20:47 |
Sam-I-Am | cr0wrx: something doesn't sound right here | 20:47 |
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rootJ | Sam: I'm sorry where can i even find that out, its working from virtualbox | 20:49 |
awayne | What's the appropriate process for updating an existing gerrit review? --amend and git review to update the patch set? | 20:49 |
Sam-I-Am | rootJ: a terminal session on the controller node (or whatever node has the apis) | 20:49 |
Sam-I-Am | awayne: do you have the branch locally? | 20:49 |
awayne | Yeah, the change is in a separate branch. | 20:50 |
Sam-I-Am | should just be able to make your change, then git commit -a --amend, then git review | 20:50 |
rootJ | sam: I can't really locate it under the dashboard in nodes | 20:51 |
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Sam-I-Am | rootJ: its a command-line thing, not the dashboard | 20:51 |
Sam-I-Am | the dashboard only works when openstack works. for troubleshooting openstack, you need to use the command line. | 20:51 |
Sam-I-Am | cr0wrx: can you sort of diagram the order in which things are plugged in? | 20:52 |
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rootJ | the thing is i never used the command line on openstack yet still new to the system | 20:52 |
Sam-I-Am | multiple provider nets should use vlan segmentation, in which case you'd have ethX -> ovs br-provider -> instances | 20:52 |
cr0wrx | eno12345 -> eno12345.40, brctl show has br-ex with interfaces dev, prod, p_ff78, eno12345.40. | 20:53 |
Sam-I-Am | or if you want to make them flat, you can move the tagging to linux and have multiple ovs bridges, each with a port on the subint, like eth0.123 and eth0.234 | 20:53 |
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cr0wrx | dev, prod, and p_ff78 are all ovs ports on different ovs bridges (br-floating, br-dev, br-prod), and each of those ovs bridges has a patch to br-int | 20:54 |
cr0wrx | bridge_mappings=physnet-prod:br-prod,physnet1:br-floating, physnet-dev:br-dev | 20:54 |
awayne | Sam-I-Am: Awesome. Anything I need to do to have the Jenkins jobs run again? I posted a recheck comment. | 20:54 |
cr0wrx | so from an openstack side of things, each neutron network is linked to physnet-*, which are different physical interfaces | 20:55 |
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cr0wrx | well, physical in a sense. They all go out same NIC and are all tagged with vlan 40 | 20:56 |
Sam-I-Am | awayne: updating the patch would trigger jenkins | 20:56 |
awayne | k | 20:56 |
Sam-I-Am | you dont need to use recheck unless a job fails for reasons outside of your patch | 20:56 |
rootJ | Sam: But i also found a weird error hitting my Slave1 is that maybe the reason why i cant install the instance? | 20:56 |
rootJ | Sam: ext4-fs error | 20:56 |
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Sam-I-Am | rootJ: that's an odd one. ssh into the node and look at dmesg? | 20:56 |
Sam-I-Am | cr0wrx: so you're essentially bridging a bunch of layer-2 nets together and tagging them as vlan 40? | 20:57 |
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rootJ | can i copy and pase the image link here? | 20:58 |
rootJ | i think my 1 slave is making this error+ its running on a virtualbox | 20:59 |
Sam-I-Am | you can paste links here. text should go to something like paste.openstack.org | 20:59 |
cr0wrx | er maybe? | 20:59 |
Sam-I-Am | cr0wrx: so, vlan 40 has more than one ip network on it? | 21:00 |
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rootJ | this is the picture of the Slave1-node | 21:00 |
rootJ | http://shrani.si/f/1k/u/3laNwe7Y/140453201015506095253468.jpg | 21:00 |
Sam-I-Am | rootJ: looks like your disk is bad | 21:01 |
rootJ | hm... | 21:01 |
Sam-I-Am | rootJ: either the vbox disk is corrupt, or the underlying device is bad, | 21:01 |
cr0wrx | all are set as 172.16.128.0/20 with gateway 172.16.128.1 which is configured upstream. The only difference between networks in OS is the subnet allocation range - those don't overlap | 21:01 |
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rootJ | so.. its about the space? | 21:01 |
Sam-I-Am | its about a filesystem failure | 21:01 |
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rootJ | Sam: any way to fix it without compromising everything? | 21:02 |
Sam-I-Am | rootJ: probably have to figure out why that filesystem corrupted, and rebuild. | 21:02 |
Sam-I-Am | or fix the underlying problem | 21:02 |
rootJ | Sam: I think its because of the space... its very very low on space | 21:02 |
rootJ | thats for sure | 21:02 |
Sam-I-Am | cr0wrx: that's not a usable config | 21:03 |
Sam-I-Am | i mean, it might work... sometimes. | 21:03 |
Sam-I-Am | but you're essentially bridging 4 ip networks together, so all the broadcasts are going to go everywhere. | 21:04 |
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cr0wrx | well that's the thing, it seems like they aren't | 21:04 |
lastmikoi | Trying to set up a NFS backend for my new glance installation, followed http://docs.openstack.org/mitaka/config-reference/block-storage/drivers/nfs-volume-driver.html (with one NFS Server), but getting an error with the following logs whenever I'm trying to create a volume: http://paste.openstack.org/show/v1CgOh2ngFZkrZl9R5JN/. | 21:04 |
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lastmikoi | I do think something's wrong with my NFS setup but how could I diagnose it from cinder's "point of view" ? | 21:04 |
cr0wrx | everything works fine on compute3, across different networks living on it | 21:04 |
cr0wrx | but I don't see any incoming traffic to compute1 or compute2 on eno12345.40 for the new provider network I'm testing, although the other networks still work | 21:05 |
Sam-I-Am | lastmikoi: sounds like your volume node(s) isnt checking in with the controller? | 21:05 |
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lastmikoi | in this setup both the controller and the volume are on the same machine | 21:06 |
Sam-I-Am | there's a possibility you created a switching loop and your switch has blocked traffic | 21:06 |
cr0wrx | for provider networks, it doesn't need to go through neutron node does it? Shouldn't I be able to see pings broadcast to all .40 interfaces on all compute nodes? Or would I not due to issues upstream like arp caching or something else | 21:06 |
lastmikoi | ooh. | 21:06 |
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lastmikoi | Will try using the loopback device then | 21:06 |
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Sam-I-Am | cr0wrx: does the .40 interface have an ip? | 21:07 |
Sam-I-Am | it doesnt *need* one if its only being used for instances | 21:07 |
cr0wrx | no | 21:07 |
cr0wrx | it does not | 21:07 |
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Sam-I-Am | you can try adding one on the question node | 21:08 |
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Sam-I-Am | but i'm pretty sure your network arch is fundamentally broken | 21:08 |
cr0wrx | so what is the regular simple way of doing it? | 21:08 |
cr0wrx | Should each provider network get its own vlan id (still use network type flat?) | 21:09 |
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cr0wrx | and each use separate netblock on upstream router with own gateways, etc.? | 21:09 |
Sam-I-Am | you should have one ovs provider bridge (the one you create, not br-int) with a port on one underlying network interface. | 21:09 |
Sam-I-Am | then each provider network should use a vlan tag | 21:09 |
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Sam-I-Am | if you want to split allocations on a layer-2 network, you'd create 1 provider network and multiple subnets on it | 21:10 |
Sam-I-Am | subnets are a layer-3 construct, networks are a layer-2 construct | 21:10 |
cr0wrx | do my ovs provider bridges need to patch to br-int? That seems to be created automatically after editing bridge_mappings | 21:10 |
Sam-I-Am | neutron handles patches from br-int to br-whatever | 21:10 |
Sam-I-Am | the only thing you need to do is create a mapping to the br-whatever, neutron does the rest | 21:11 |
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Sam-I-Am | with provider nets, you have a physical router interface on each vlan | 21:12 |
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cr0wrx | and I need to add br-whatever and all this on all nodes? the compute nodes? the neutron node? | 21:13 |
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cr0wrx | with the floating ip method, most was all on neutron node. the compute nodes didn't have much for ovs | 21:14 |
Sam-I-Am | provider nets mostly eliminate the network node | 21:14 |
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cr0wrx | ok so each compute node needs the above configuration | 21:14 |
Sam-I-Am | however, if you still want to support self-service nets, you'll want to keep some layer-3 agents around. | 21:14 |
Sam-I-Am | any node with neutron agents should have br-provider (or whatever you call it) | 21:15 |
cr0wrx | ok | 21:15 |
Sam-I-Am | and in the ovs agent config, a mapping to that bridge for some network name | 21:15 |
cr0wrx | so compute + network node | 21:15 |
Sam-I-Am | there's config for this in the networking guide, at least the basics | 21:16 |
cr0wrx | well part of it is I am also trying to work based on existing configs because I deployed with fuel and I didn't want to break it's stuff either...but now I'm starting to modify a lot of how the network stuff works (fuel doesn't really allow these changes after deployment) | 21:17 |
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Sam-I-Am | oh, fuel... does... things. :/ | 21:18 |
Sam-I-Am | it has its own idea of how networking should work, and uses ovs for a bunch of host-level stuff | 21:18 |
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cr0wrx | so the way it's deployed now is br-ex (brctl show) has interfaces that map to ovs side of things | 21:21 |
cr0wrx | Do I need to add my new vlan interface there to br-ex for provider network? | 21:22 |
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Sam-I-Am | so... | 21:23 |
Sam-I-Am | brctl doesnt show ovs bridges, so br-ex must be a linux bridge? | 21:23 |
cr0wrx | yes | 21:23 |
cr0wrx | it's a linux bridge set up by fuel | 21:23 |
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Sam-I-Am | bleh | 21:24 |
Sam-I-Am | how many of those are there? | 21:24 |
cr0wrx | that has interfaces to the vlan physical interface, and then things like p_ff78 (which is one end of veth pair to ovs, and maps over to br-floating I think) | 21:24 |
Sam-I-Am | fuel makes my head hurt | 21:24 |
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cr0wrx | linux bridges on compute are br-aux, br-ex, br-fw-admin, br-mgmt, br-storage, and a handful of qbr* | 21:25 |
cr0wrx | all of this makes my head hurt | 21:25 |
kur1j | Sam-I-Am: haha you and me both | 21:25 |
kur1j | cr0wrx: my experience too :) | 21:25 |
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kur1j | finally got the system I was deploying working...scared to touch it... | 21:26 |
cr0wrx | easiest thing I think would be to add p_provider to br-ex on linux bridge side, and the other end of p_provider goes to br-provider in ovs | 21:26 |
cr0wrx | if that would work | 21:26 |
Sam-I-Am | fuel adds an extra layer of 'stuff' to make deployment easier ("easier") ... which arguably limits what you can do with it. | 21:26 |
cr0wrx | then br-ex just joins a bunch of things, no? | 21:26 |
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Sam-I-Am | bridges connected to bridges are a bad idea | 21:26 |
Sam-I-Am | which seems to be whats going on there | 21:27 |
Sam-I-Am | what ports are on br-provider in ovs? | 21:27 |
cr0wrx | well for provider network stuff, I don't have to do that, if it's all different anyways | 21:27 |
Sam-I-Am | or whatever bridges exist | 21:27 |
cr0wrx | nothing yet, but if I copy the config similar to how fuel set up br-floating it will just create a patch to br-int and a port for the other end of veth pair that comes from linux bridge (br-ex) | 21:27 |
cr0wrx | well one thing that stands out is in ifcfg-br-ex it has address and gateway set, which is a different netblock than what br-provider will have | 21:28 |
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Sam-I-Am | you might consider deploying something less... complex. | 21:29 |
Sam-I-Am | provider nets are super easy, except when you put a bunch of cruft in the way | 21:29 |
Sam-I-Am | i dont know if fuel supports them out of the box | 21:29 |
cr0wrx | well not really, hence this work | 21:30 |
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cr0wrx | but problem is we can't redeploy cluster :/ | 21:30 |
cr0wrx | fuel supports custom network stuff, but only if you do it before deploying the cluster. post-deploy, you can't | 21:30 |
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Sam-I-Am | well, the normal way to do this is in the networking guide | 21:31 |
cr0wrx | so we are actually losing out a bit on the benefits of fuel to some extent I guess, because we can easily add new nodes, but then I have to go run post-deploy ansible scripts to bring newly deployed nodes up to speed with these post-deploy changes | 21:31 |
Sam-I-Am | i cant be much use to integrate it with the fuel stuff | 21:31 |
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cr0wrx | so in networking guide you have ovs-vsctl add-port br-provider PROVIDER_INTERFACE | 21:32 |
cr0wrx | can I just use eno12345.40 for PROVIDER_INTERFACE | 21:32 |
cr0wrx | and that's that? that avoids all the fuel specifics | 21:32 |
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Sam-I-Am | that .40 interface would strip vlan 40 from frames before passing them to br-provider | 21:33 |
Sam-I-Am | in which case neutron would expect to use a flat network, not a vlan network | 21:34 |
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cr0wrx | simple enough | 21:34 |
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Sam-I-Am | if you plug eno12345 into it, you can use vlan networks | 21:34 |
cr0wrx | ok so eno12345 as is, don't need to configure .40 interface on host, and follow networking guide to the T | 21:35 |
Sam-I-Am | yes. then your network would be vlan type, using vlan id 40 | 21:36 |
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cr0wrx | gah, hit an issue "invalid input for operation: physical_network 'rpvodire' unknown for vlan provider network" | 21:48 |
cr0wrx | when running net-create | 21:48 |
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cr0wrx | not sure why, followed the guide. I have provider in network_vlan_ranges | 21:48 |
cr0wrx | in ml2_conf.ini | 21:48 |
lastmikoi | It would seem that my single-node has two cinder-volume running, including one with status "XXX" roughly since installation | 21:48 |
cr0wrx | also in bridge_mappings | 21:49 |
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Sam-I-Am | cr0wrx: did you restart things? | 21:54 |
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cr0wrx | yes | 21:54 |
cr0wrx | I think I restarted all the right things | 21:54 |
Sam-I-Am | neutron-server and agents? | 21:55 |
cr0wrx | if I change it to network_type flat, it worked (although I guess I need to create the .42 interface and use that instead on host if I go that route) | 21:55 |
cr0wrx | but flat_networks=* | 21:55 |
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Sam-I-Am | can you paste your ml2_conf.ini and openvswitch_agent.ini files ? | 21:55 |
Sam-I-Am | also what rel is this? | 21:55 |
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cr0wrx | missed a service, got it. ignore me (no, please don't. but sort of :P ) | 21:57 |
cr0wrx | sorry. Fuely things. it's got some services running one way and some under another (pacemaker) | 21:57 |
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Sam-I-Am | another reason to run away :) | 21:58 |
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rootJ | Sam i really think its the disk space had a look in to it and it was a SSD with 2 operating systems on it which only 50gb was declared for the Linux system.... | 21:59 |
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cr0wrx | welp, so I followed the network guide to the T, still no luck. I spun up an instance but can't ping it from basically anywhere | 22:16 |
Sam-I-Am | did it get an ip? | 22:16 |
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cr0wrx | it appears that way | 22:17 |
cr0wrx | nova list shows it with provider-101=172.16.144.3 | 22:17 |
Sam-I-Am | well, thats what nova assigned it | 22:18 |
cr0wrx | the gateway is 172.16.144.1 and no issues there | 22:18 |
Sam-I-Am | not necessarily that it got there | 22:18 |
cr0wrx | within console (cirros), it doesn't seem to have an IP | 22:18 |
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Sam-I-Am | is there a dhcp namespace for the network? | 22:18 |
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cr0wrx | yes | 22:19 |
cr0wrx | on the network node | 22:19 |
Sam-I-Am | can you ping its ip? | 22:20 |
cr0wrx | but `ip netns exec qdhcp-# ifconfig` doesn't show the IPs or anything | 22:20 |
cr0wrx | which ip? | 22:20 |
Sam-I-Am | well, that one... | 22:20 |
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Sam-I-Am | the interface in the dhcp namespace has no ip? | 22:20 |
cr0wrx | dhcp namespace (on network node, there aren't any namespaces on compute nodes) has only lo and a single tap, which is 172.16.144.2 | 22:21 |
cr0wrx | I'm guessing dhcp server | 22:21 |
Sam-I-Am | its an ip on that network, so yep | 22:21 |
Sam-I-Am | can you ping that from anywhere? | 22:21 |
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cr0wrx | yea 172.16.144.2 is port for network:dhcp on provider network | 22:22 |
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cr0wrx | and no, I can't ping it from anywhere (even controller) outside of within the namespace itself | 22:22 |
Sam-I-Am | how did you create the provider network? | 22:23 |
cr0wrx | networking guide. to the T | 22:23 |
Sam-I-Am | well, i mean... did you use a vlan tag? | 22:23 |
Sam-I-Am | i think the networking guide creates a vlan network | 22:24 |
cr0wrx | net-create provider-101 --shared --provider:physical_network provider --provider:netwark_type vlan --provider:segmentation_id 42 | 22:24 |
cr0wrx | yes, I used 42 | 22:24 |
cr0wrx | which is set up on upstream router | 22:24 |
cr0wrx | for 172.16.144.0/20 | 22:24 |
cr0wrx | I can ping upstream gateway at 172.16.144.1 from controller | 22:24 |
cr0wrx | but not 172.16.144.2, which is inside dhcp namespace | 22:25 |
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Sam-I-Am | so provider maps to br-provider? | 22:25 |
cr0wrx | yes | 22:25 |
Sam-I-Am | does the switch tag vlan 42 to the eth interface that plugs into br-provider? | 22:26 |
rootJ | Sam can a friend of mine add Murano to his openstack, but hes already using sahara? | 22:27 |
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cr0wrx | yes | 22:27 |
Sam-I-Am | rootJ: i dont know either of those projects | 22:27 |
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Sam-I-Am | cr0wrx: if you run tcpdump on the underlying interface while pinging .1 from the dhcp namespace, you should see frames tagged 42 | 22:27 |
cr0wrx | I do not. I can't ping .1 from the dhcp namespace | 22:29 |
cr0wrx | only from outside of namespace | 22:29 |
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Sam-I-Am | whats the output ovs-vsctl show ? | 22:30 |
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Sam-I-Am | on the node with the dhcp agent | 22:30 |
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cr0wrx | br-provider exists with port enp7sof1 to interface enp7sof1, phy-br-provider (patch to br-int), and br-provider (type internal) | 22:31 |
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Sam-I-Am | there should be a port for the dhcp namespace | 22:32 |
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cr0wrx | nope | 22:34 |
cr0wrx | don't see anything | 22:34 |
Sam-I-Am | thats not good | 22:34 |
Sam-I-Am | time to check the ovs agent or dhcp agent logs | 22:34 |
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cr0wrx | only thing in vswitchd.log is a warning about "failed to add enp7so71 as port: device or resource busy" which happened when I did ovs-vsctl add-port br-provider enp7so71 | 22:37 |
cr0wrx | but, enp7so71 shows up in ovs-vsctl show | 22:38 |
Sam-I-Am | might try doing a del-port and add-port on that again | 22:38 |
Sam-I-Am | see if it complains | 22:38 |
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cr0wrx | nothing in dhcp_agent.log | 22:39 |
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cr0wrx | it spits the same error | 22:40 |
cr0wrx | but it creates the port | 22:40 |
Sam-I-Am | thats ungood | 22:41 |
Sam-I-Am | its adding it to the control plane, but not the data plane | 22:41 |
Sam-I-Am | hence why things arent working | 22:41 |
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Sam-I-Am | does anything else have enp7so71? | 22:41 |
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Sam-I-Am | are you doing this as root? | 22:42 |
cr0wrx | yes | 22:42 |
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cr0wrx | linux bridge br-ex exists with interface enp7so71.40 on it, br-aux exists with enp7so71 | 22:42 |
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Sam-I-Am | thats probably the issue | 22:43 |
cr0wrx | so if I run `vconfig add enp7s0f1 42` and then `ovs-vsctl add-port br-provider enp7sof1.42` no errors | 22:44 |
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cr0wrx | so maybe I'll try that way with flat network type | 22:44 |
Sam-I-Am | its still "wrong" but linux might let you do it | 22:45 |
Sam-I-Am | well, ovs. because nothing is plugged into that subint. | 22:45 |
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Sam-I-Am | i'm out for the weekend | 22:54 |
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cr0wrx | thanks for the help. Using flat network failed too :( same issue, can't hit 172.16.144.1 from within dhcp namespace | 22:55 |
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rootJ | anybody here | 23:13 |
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TMM | Ghehe, I just successfully created a windows 98 SE image on our cloud. | 23:21 |
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TMM | Time to troll the windows admins | 23:21 |
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