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| suh | /help Basic IRC Commands | 03:10 |
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| s1c | i just installed newton but openstack flavor list is empty. how do i get my default flavors? | 03:19 |
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| iggy | you did a sync_db? | 03:39 |
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| s1c | yes, i did. it created the table which i think the flavors would be in "instance_type" | 03:49 |
| s1c | but its empty | 03:49 |
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| s1c | hmm i guess its actually in nova_api.flavors | 03:56 |
| s1c | the table is there but its empty | 03:57 |
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| emk | hi all, are there any casestudies of OpenStack in use as a privatecloud for a small/medium sized business? I'm comparing options in replasing ESX/ESXi infrastructure with OpenStack | 07:42 |
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| gabor_antal_ | Hey! Can anyone help me with what happened to openstack Neat ? | 08:50 |
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| saybeano | hello- OS Liberty, looking at cinder, does the cli or dashboard have any commands regarding total used/free space, i'm using lvm and df is no help! | 08:51 |
| saybeano | cheers :) | 08:51 |
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| gahan | can I enable haproxy logging on openstack? seems lke containers dont have /dev/xconsole ... | 09:10 |
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| rmart04 | Posted a big question and got booted! Fs! Ill try again! | 10:35 |
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| rmart04 | Would anyone be able to shed any light on the following | 10:35 |
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| rmart04 | I have an image with 2GB minimum disk size set. I create a volume, its 2GB. I then try boot from volume and I get the following : Volume is smaller than the minimum size specified in image metadata. Volume size is 1073741824 bytes, minimum size is 2147483648 bytes | 10:36 |
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| rmart04 | I believe that somehow, this is mixing up the RAM and DISK sizes, as larger flavours with identical settings other than RAM have no problems. | 10:36 |
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| kyriakos34 | good morning openstackers!! i'm new to openstack and i need some help if someone want to help me come pm pls | 11:41 |
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| admin0 | ask here kyriakos34 | 11:56 |
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| JiYu | when using vxlan, where are the VTEPs? Are they in the neutron-server or on each compute node (if in which software)? | 12:33 |
| JiYu | from what I see, its possible to have VTEPs as SDN or hardware, but dont understand in which software they are actually implemented from openstack | 12:35 |
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| John341 | I'm failing to add a new compute node on liberty/centos7. When I add the node, I can see it up in nova service-list, but it is not added to nova hypervisor-list. On the compute node I can in nova-compute.log see: ERROR: No compute node record for host compute-5, and ERROR: Error updating resources for node compute-5 error connecting to the cluster | 13:38 |
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| atpa8a | hello | 14:30 |
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| platta | Hi, got a neutron question. My physical network is only half covered by DHCP, the other half is open for OpenStack to use when assigning floating IPs. When I create the provider network in neutron that represents my physical network, which range of IPs should I be using for the --allocation-pool parameter? | 14:39 |
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| atpa8a | hmm | 14:47 |
| atpa8a | any tips for upgrading ubuntu 14.04 LTS to 16.04 LTS? is that any straightforward? | 14:49 |
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| Sam-I-Am | atpa8a: just ubuntu? | 15:04 |
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| atpa8a | Sam-I-Am: well :) with openstack | 15:10 |
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| Sam-I-Am | atpa8a: what ver are you on now? | 15:11 |
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| atpa8a | 14.04 LTS with Icehouse | 15:11 |
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| Sam-I-Am | well, how much downtime can you handle? | 15:12 |
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| Sam-I-Am | because there's no way around it | 15:12 |
| atpa8a | i'm not constrained with regards of downtime | 15:13 |
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| Sam-I-Am | were you using cloud-archive for the packages, or what came with 14.04 (which was icehouse) | 15:13 |
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| atpa8a | whatever came with 14.04 | 15:14 |
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| atpa8a | like "true" LTS | 15:14 |
| Sam-I-Am | if you upgrade ubuntu to 16.04, it'll probably upgrade your openstack packages too... to mitaka. | 15:14 |
| Sam-I-Am | and everything will break because configs have changed extensively | 15:14 |
| atpa8a | i see... | 15:15 |
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| Sam-I-Am | your other option is using cloud-archive to upgrade to mitaka first, then disable that repo, then upgrade to 16.04 | 15:15 |
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| atpa8a | my /boot is on a usb drive and my / is an LVM volume... may be it'd be easier to reinstall into a different volume using different USB drive... | 15:17 |
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| atpa8a | will instances from icehouse run on mitaka straight or some migration will also required? | 15:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | they should just run, but you might need to rebuild the network bits | 15:18 |
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| atpa8a | i see | 15:19 |
| atpa8a | cool | 15:19 |
| atpa8a | thanks | 15:19 |
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| atpa8a | rebuild network you mean reconfigure something inside the instances? | 15:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | no, with neutron | 15:21 |
| atpa8a | got it | 15:21 |
| atpa8a | is nova network gone now? | 15:21 |
| atpa8a | (tho i'm using neutron) | 15:21 |
| John341 | Sam-I-Am: I'm failing to add a new compute node, can you please help? I've been trying troubleshooting for quite some time but havent been able to nail. http://pastebin.ca/3728132 | 15:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | uh, gone enough | 15:21 |
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| John341 | Sam-I-Am: It seem like the additional compute host doesn't get added to the DB? | 15:22 |
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| John341 | I've tried to read the nova-conductor.log on the controller, but there's nothing there :s | 15:22 |
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| John341 | I've followed the manual and install liberty on CentOS7, I have 4 other compute nodes that I added months back without issues, so I'm not sure what's causing this new compute node fail to add | 15:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | John341: the compute node's info should end up in the api log on the compute node | 15:25 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the compute node talks to nova api for the most part | 15:27 |
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| John341 | Sam-I-Am: I tried tailing the nova compute api log on the controller, but I get nothing there which is very concerning hmmm | 15:31 |
| John341 | Does this mean that the nova-compute doesn't even attempt to connect? | 15:31 |
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| Sam-I-Am | can the compute node even reach the controller node? | 15:32 |
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| John341 | yes! I have verified that | 15:33 |
| John341 | I have pinged the ip of the controller from the compute node, and that works fine | 15:33 |
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| Sam-I-Am | but can it reach the tcp ports that nova-api listens on? | 15:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | and by name? | 15:34 |
| kyriakos34 | hello.i'm newbie on openstack.can enyone knows to help me? | 15:34 |
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| atpa8a | Sam-I-Am: as i'm contemplating the reinstall... is it worth for me to look into LXC? i'm running on KVM currently | 15:36 |
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| John341 | Sam-I-Am: on the compute node in nova.conf, is the keystone_authtoken auth_url auth_uri that defines where the nova-compute is trying to connect? | 15:36 |
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| Sam-I-Am | atpa8a: lxc is not the same as kvm | 15:37 |
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| Sam-I-Am | John341: thats for it to obtain tokens | 15:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | the rabbitmq stuff is also needed for it to talk to rabbit | 15:38 |
| atpa8a | i understand... but it can be used as "backend" to compute, no? | 15:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | no, it cant | 15:39 |
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| atpa8a | oh? | 15:39 |
| John341 | Sam-I-Am: yes, the rabbitmq block is there it is all declared with hosts and credentials | 15:39 |
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| atpa8a | i thought i read something like that somewhere... | 15:40 |
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| John341 | Sam-I-Am: I can connect to the rabbitmq port, controller:5672 from my compute host | 15:40 |
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| Sam-I-Am | atpa8a: there is some support for containers | 15:42 |
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| John341 | Sam-I-Am: not sure if something is wrong in the rabbitmq, do I need to flush the queues? | 15:43 |
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| John341 | I have tried to restart the rabbit server, but it doesn't help | 15:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | that would usually flush them | 15:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | so you dont see it checking in at all in the nova api log? | 15:43 |
| John341 | no | 15:43 |
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| Sam-I-Am | anything recurring in the compute node log? | 15:44 |
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| atpa8a | so better stay with KVM? i'm reading that libvirt can run on LXC and nova uses libvirt, right? | 15:46 |
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| Sam-I-Am | well, i think the idea there is running nova-compute inside a container | 15:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | its a way to separate out your openstack services | 15:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | more than a way to run VMs | 15:47 |
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| atpa8a | this? https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/LXC | 15:49 |
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| John341 | Sam-I-Am: this message repeats, comes every minute or so, http://pastebin.ca/3728138 | 15:50 |
| John341 | Sam-I-Am: it seems it is trying to register in db, but doesn't succeed or something.. | 15:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | what ver is this? | 15:51 |
| John341 | Sam-I-Am: I'm not sure exactly how the communication flows, is it nova-compute - mq - nova-conductor - db ? | 15:51 |
| John341 | Sam-I-Am: liberty centos7 | 15:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | you dont have a db connect string in the config, right? | 15:51 |
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| John341 | Sam-I-Am: right, no mysql found in nova.conf | 15:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | sure you have the correct version of nova-compute on that box? | 15:53 |
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| John341 | Sam-I-Am: I've verified and compared to the working nodes, and it's @centos-openstack-liberty. openstack-nova-compute.noarch is 1:12.0.4-1.el7 | 15:59 |
| John341 | Really weird.. :s | 16:00 |
| Sam-I-Am | yep | 16:00 |
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| John341 | Sam-I-Am: can it be that I've deleted all empty lines in nova.conf and the intepretor gets confused? | 16:00 |
| John341 | shouldnt be | 16:00 |
| Sam-I-Am | naw | 16:00 |
| Sam-I-Am | unless you've misplaced something | 16:00 |
| Sam-I-Am | or misspelled | 16:00 |
| Sam-I-Am | its very easy to do | 16:00 |
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| John341 | Sam-I-Am: I've diffed my new nova.conf with the working ones, and there are no delta. so I think something else :s Maybe I should copy one of the old files over, and just change what's necessary | 16:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah. also enable debug mode and see if thats more helpful. | 16:05 |
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| Sam-I-Am | there has to be something in the nova-api log on the controller too | 16:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | or should be | 16:05 |
| John341 | Sam-I-Am: my api endpoints have changed fqdn since I added last time, however, openstack endpoint list does show the correct ones | 16:05 |
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| John341 | Sam-I-Am: really strange, I replaced the new compute nodes file nova.conf, with one of the compute nodes that are up and running and I still get the same error. I don't think it is the config file. | 16:11 |
| John341 | Can it be that it has something to do with the endpoints, and failing to update the db? | 16:11 |
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| Sam-I-Am | could be | 16:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | im out of ideas | 16:12 |
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| John341 | not sure how nova service-list shows the service as up, but hypervisor-list doesnt? | 16:14 |
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| John341 | :s | 16:14 |
| Sam-I-Am | is libvirt broken? | 16:14 |
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| John341 | I'm not sure, I have no files in /var/log/libvirt on the new compute, nodes, however on the old ones I have many files there | 16:15 |
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| John341 | I've tried to run libvirt manuallya, /sbin/libvirt -d -v, but it is compltely silent | 16:15 |
| John341 | I'm not sure if something is wrong there | 16:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | is it running? | 16:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | have you looked at its logs? | 16:16 |
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| John341 | there are no logs :( | 16:16 |
| John341 | I can see /usr/sbin/libvirtd --listen | 16:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | is there a firewall running? | 16:16 |
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| John341 | no firewall. if I run netstat I can see the two libvirt ports listening at all interfaces. | 16:18 |
| John341 | but nothing in /var/log/libvirt which is strange | 16:18 |
| John341 | I mean, I should be able to run in foreground with -v -d right? | 16:18 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yeah | 16:21 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the logs could be in another dir | 16:21 |
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| John341 | Sam-I-Am: Nailed it! | 16:25 |
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| John341 | I had been suspicous at this one all day, but I didn't convince myself this was why | 16:26 |
| John341 | ARGH! | 16:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | oh? | 16:26 |
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| John341 | ceph cinder keyring file in /etc/ceph was missing, this was a one and only delta from all other working compute nodes, but libvirt didn't complain | 16:26 |
| John341 | and I've it loaded in virsh secret-list too | 16:27 |
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| Sam-I-Am | oops | 16:27 |
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| John341 | Just took 12hrs to troubleshoot all machines.. :| | 16:27 |
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| John341 | At least I won't forget it while adding next compute node | 16:28 |
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| Sam-I-Am | this is when automation is nice | 16:29 |
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| John341 | agreed | 16:30 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i need to start an openstack consulting biz :) | 16:32 |
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| John341 | (: | 16:33 |
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| John341 | it was really cryptic, and strange .. sometime good error messages in libvirt nova etc. would be really helpful | 16:34 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you must be new here :) | 16:34 |
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| John341 | haha, yerps! | 16:36 |
| John341 | Sam-I-Am: tons of thanks for helping with the troubleshooting! | 16:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | surre | 16:36 |
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| mayela_ | Hi! | 16:40 |
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| cr0wrx | Hi all - anyone hear know how IO heavy controller nodes are? Would there be major disadvantages to running on HDD rather than SDD? | 20:59 |
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| jidar | depends on what you want to run | 21:03 |
| bsv | cr0wrx: It all depends on the setup :) | 21:03 |
| jidar | the database by itself can be fairly IO heavy | 21:03 |
| jidar | enough that we capped out 20-30 hosts on HDDs and had lots of failures | 21:03 |
| jidar | (20-30 compute hosts) and 3 controllers (running HDDs) | 21:04 |
| jidar | like, it just failed | 21:04 |
| jidar | was poopoo | 21:04 |
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| cr0wrx | poopoo no good | 21:06 |
| jidar | but if you want to run keystone, glance, nova and no ceilometer, you might be able to get away with HDDs and minimal Compute nodes | 21:06 |
| cr0wrx | well, we have a lot fewer compute hosts for this. I imagine if we expanded to 20-30 of those then sticking SSDs in 3 controllers wouldn't be a big issue | 21:06 |
| cr0wrx | we only have a few compute nodes | 21:06 |
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| jidar | you just need to be picky about what you're running | 21:07 |
| cr0wrx | and run the main services. We do have ceilometer running now though too. | 21:07 |
| cr0wrx | we have a single controller with small SSDs. Disk latency in logs is minimal on this one which makes me think switching to HDD as we expand to HA would be ok | 21:08 |
| jidar | HA adds lots of overhead to disk writes | 21:08 |
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| cr0wrx | HA as in running pacemaker, or HA as in actually having multiple nodes? | 21:08 |
| cr0wrx | We deployed with fuel and it's already configured in HA | 21:08 |
| cr0wrx | it's just a single node | 21:08 |
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| jidar | the multiple nodes part, no the pacemaker resources | 21:09 |
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| jidar | s/no/not | 21:09 |
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| jidar | do me a favor and launch 10 tiny instances and see if things bread down for you | 21:09 |
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| jidar | give it like, 10-20% overhead | 21:09 |
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| cr0wrx | that won't be the case I'm sure, but I can't :) We have maxed out RAM usage | 21:10 |
| jidar | if things fail, you're likely bound | 21:10 |
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| cr0wrx | we already have a bunch of instances running on existing compute nodes | 21:10 |
| jidar | what we saw fail was allocating out new resources after things were running | 21:10 |
| jidar | like, neutron network ports would fail, the instance would fail to launch | 21:10 |
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| jidar | so 8/10 would be fine, but two would fail | 21:10 |
| cr0wrx | ah if launched simultaneously? | 21:11 |
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| jidar | yea, because the writes/reads from the databases would be IO bound | 21:11 |
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| jidar | you'd see errors in the mysql logs about it trying and failing to run a SELECT statement in a timely fashion | 21:11 |
| jidar | that would cause the instance launch to fail | 21:12 |
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| cr0wrx | alright lets see. I'll do a handful at once | 21:13 |
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| jidar | this is also more of a problem the more compute nodes you have (because iirc) nodes make db calls every second or two | 21:13 |
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| cr0wrx | 20 tinys coming right up | 21:14 |
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| cr0wrx | well maybe not | 21:17 |
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| cr0wrx | although I think the issue was unrelated | 21:18 |
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