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| AlecTaylor | hi | 01:24 |
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| AlecTaylor | So I'm thinking about installing OpenStack on datacentres of servers just for Swift. Is that overkill, should I use Ceph instead? | 01:25 |
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| Sam-I-Am | AlecTaylor: you could just install swift | 01:41 |
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| AlecTaylor | Hmm, Solum looks like an alternative to Brooklyn also, hmmmmmmmmm | 01:46 |
| AlecTaylor | Sam-I-Am: Hmm, how? - The docs don't mention it: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/swift/howto_installmultinode.html | 01:48 |
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| Sam-I-Am | dont mention what? | 01:49 |
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| AlecTaylor | Hmm, there's this - http://docs.openstack.org/developer/swift/development_saio.html - But that doesn't seem to be for HA deployments | 01:50 |
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| Sam-I-Am | swift is loosely related to openstack | 01:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | a lot of people deploy it with keystone to handle authentication | 01:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | its inherently HA. you just need to use some sort of load balancer for the api. | 01:56 |
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| AlecTaylor | Hmm | 02:00 |
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| saybeano | I've got a flat network, VMs are using the neutron dhcp, and on the flat network's dhcp i'm ignoring machines filtered by the openstack mac addresses. However, there are physical machines on the actual network inheriting `openstacklocal`, presumably from multicast broadcasts(?) any advice on preventing this please? | 10:00 |
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| admin0 | morning all \o | 10:33 |
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| * D4RKS1D3 hi to everyone :) | 11:34 | |
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| D4RKS1D3 | I am having some problems with mtu and vxlan encapsulation, someone knows how to solve it? | 11:35 |
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| D4RKS1D3 | Sometimes works when i created the network and sometimes does not work :( | 11:35 |
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| D4RKS1D3 | The problem is with the dhcp packet from the vm to the network node via vxlan tunel :) | 11:36 |
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| SinaMaleki | @D4RKS1D3 whats your mtu size ? | 11:39 |
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| D4RKS1D3 | in the namespace interface SinaMaleki ? | 11:40 |
| D4RKS1D3 | by default the mtu in openstack is 1500 | 11:40 |
| SinaMaleki | I prefer you to increase MTU size , actually I have several problems with 1500 and exactly vlan tunneling | 11:41 |
| D4RKS1D3 | but if you increased the mtu in all the interfaces we have the same problem | 11:42 |
| D4RKS1D3 | when openstack add the vxlan header | 11:42 |
| D4RKS1D3 | and the the packet is fragmented | 11:43 |
| SinaMaleki | I have this problem So I bond two 10G networks ith MTU 9000 , The problem has been fixed and openstack think that there is just only one interface [ bond ] | 11:44 |
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| D4RKS1D3 | you put 9000 mtu in the physical interfaces in each compute? | 11:46 |
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| D4RKS1D3 | in the network too? | 11:46 |
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| SinaMaleki | No , I enable the jumboframe on the switch , So after that I create bond and in bond I put mtu 9000 | 11:47 |
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| hk135 | Hi All, just wondering if this was the right place to ask about openvswitch-agent issues, I am getting "Transaction caused no change do_commit" after an AddPortCommand | 13:10 |
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| Redcavalier | Hi, I'm having a few issues with live-migration and cinder-volume backed instances. Basically, it looks like the vm on the new node gets destroyed mid live-migration because it's not updated in the database. | 15:04 |
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| Redcavalier | I get "While synchronizing instance power states, found 0 instances in the database and 1 instances on the hypervisor." and then I can see the volume unmounting and the instance getting flushed, even though live-migration was going on. | 15:06 |
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| Sam-I-Am | Redcavalier: thats... weird. | 15:07 |
| Redcavalier | Sam-I-Am, maybe I'm just not interpreting this properly and something else happens too | 15:07 |
| Redcavalier | but it is indeed weird | 15:07 |
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| Sam-I-Am | something configured wrong? | 15:08 |
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| Redcavalier | I can't really think of anything. I mean, the transfer does seem to be happening, I can see the memory content getting sent over, from the source node's logs | 15:09 |
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| brad[] | I have an instance with config_drive property set to True though there is no such drive - how would I toggle this to false? Is there an API/CLI method or am I delving into the DB? | 15:09 |
| Redcavalier | Sam-I-Am, Oh wait, I think it ties out | 15:10 |
| Redcavalier | times* | 15:10 |
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| Redcavalier | "Live migration stuck for 150 sec" "Live Migration failure: operation aborted: migration job: canceled by client" | 15:11 |
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| Sam-I-Am | oops | 15:12 |
| Redcavalier | previous logs do show it as doing *something* so it might just be the timeout value being too low | 15:13 |
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| Redcavalier | Or so I hope | 15:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | how big is the vm? | 15:13 |
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| Redcavalier | fairly small, but it should only transfer the memory content as the block device is on a remote SAN | 15:15 |
| Redcavalier | gave it 8GB of ram | 15:15 |
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| Redcavalier | There's also the fact that the originating compute is slightly overloaded | 15:17 |
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| Redcavalier | I'll increase the timeout value and see what happens | 15:17 |
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| Redcavalier | Sam-I-Am, increasing the timeout did the trick | 15:35 |
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| Sam-I-Am | Redcavalier: cool. that 2005 technology will get you every time :) | 15:41 |
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| Redcavalier | Sam-I-Am, hehe, btw, while you're here, have you had experience using DOM's on motherboards? | 15:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | doms? | 15:48 |
| Redcavalier | let met get the actual acronym signification | 15:49 |
| Redcavalier | disk on module. These things : https://www.supermicro.com/products/nfo/SATADOM.cfm | 15:49 |
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| Sam-I-Am | well, since i didnt know the acronym, i'll go with not having used them :) | 15:50 |
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| Redcavalier | yea, expected as much. My boss though it would be "future friendly" to use that in our compute nodes. Now, every once in a while, a compute node goes into input/output error >_>;; | 15:51 |
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| Sam-I-Am | well, if you dont store vms locally, the host just needs enough to boot and load openstack | 15:51 |
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| Sam-I-Am | and storing vms locally is a Bad Idea, so :) | 15:52 |
| Redcavalier | yea, and the VMs still run when it goes into input/output error. That's not a problem | 15:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | flash can fail too | 15:52 |
| Redcavalier | it's juste everytime a compute goes into I/O error, it takes the VMs running on it as hostages | 15:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | or you could just netboot for Extra Fun | 15:53 |
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| Redcavalier | and I need to wait until 10 pm before I can reboot it and it comes back fresh as a rose | 15:53 |
| Redcavalier | hahahaha | 15:53 |
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| Redcavalier | Now that live-migrate work though, I can move VMs around and do some much needed troubleshooting on that problem | 15:55 |
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| cyrus_mc | Reboot a compute node. The instances start back up but the networking component doesn't. Using the ml2 linux bridge plugin | 15:59 |
| cyrus_mc | I see no tap interface | 15:59 |
| cyrus_mc | no bridges created for the specific network | 15:59 |
| cyrus_mc | nothing in the logs indiate an error | 16:00 |
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| cyrus_mc | within the instance it has no network card assigned | 16:03 |
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| Sam-I-Am | is the linux bridge agent starting? | 16:05 |
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| cyrus_mc | Sam-I-Am: it is | 16:12 |
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| Sam-I-Am | anything in its logs? | 16:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | it should be checking in with the neutron server and recreating all the bits | 16:13 |
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| haukebruno | hi all. without knowing the internals of all the neutron-server to neutron-agents magic. would it be possible to have lets say 3 neutron nodes that runs l3 agents with self-service network caps (using VXLAN) and a 4th other neutron node that just provides provider-networks (using VLAN)? | 16:17 |
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| admin0 | haukebruno: you can move around routers after they are created | 16:19 |
| admin0 | or add your small hack to do some neutron scheduling as well | 16:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | you're talking about two different things | 16:19 |
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| haukebruno | yeah, I guess so. maybe a more generic question: if I have 3 neutron nodes (running the agents) in 1 stack/region, do they need to run exactly the same config? | 16:25 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yes | 16:29 |
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| Sam-I-Am | at least if i think i get what you're saying | 16:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | right now, nova doesnt really know what network resources are available on a specific node | 16:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | iirc, thats coming soon | 16:29 |
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| haukebruno | ah ok Sam-I-Am, thanks. | 16:31 |
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| ganesan | I would like to change glance store (/var/lib/glance/images) location | 16:39 |
| ganesan | what is the procedure to change the default location of glance | 16:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | ganesan: uh, you edit the config file? | 16:39 |
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| Sam-I-Am | however, in any prod deployment, you're not going to want local storage of images | 16:40 |
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| jidar | I'd say that depends | 16:40 |
| jidar | in our case, glance is backed by swift | 16:40 |
| jidar | we've got 3 'local' copies of it | 16:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | you can also nfs mount that dir | 16:40 |
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| Sam-I-Am | jidar: i think we're thinking two different definitions of local | 16:41 |
| ganesan | I have lvm where I want to store glance image | 16:41 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so just set it to point to where the logical volume is mounted | 16:41 |
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| ganesan | Sam-I-AM : yeap, I changed the location to lvm in the glance-api.conf file (filesystem_store_datadir="") | 16:43 |
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| ganesan | I get this error "ERROR glance.api.v1.upload_utils StoreAddDisabled: Configuration for store failed. Adding images to this store is disabled." | 16:44 |
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| Sam-I-Am | can glance access that dir? check the perms | 16:45 |
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| ganesan | Sam-I-Am: yes, it has "drwxr-xr-x. 2 glance glance 6 Nov 1 11:45 images" | 16:47 |
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| Sam-I-Am | must be something else going on | 16:48 |
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| ganesan | what are the other places we need to change to new glance location (already did on glance-api.conf) | 16:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | that should be it | 16:50 |
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| cyrus_mc | Sam-I-Am: figured out my issue. I created a new project and then followed https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/28026/how-to-move-a-instance-between-projects/ (the direct DB method) to move an instance to another project | 17:00 |
| cyrus_mc | apparently that broke it. Once I moved the instance back to the old project, it started up just fine | 17:00 |
| cyrus_mc | are networks assigned to a specific project? | 17:00 |
| Sam-I-Am | yes | 17:00 |
| Sam-I-Am | unless you create them as shared | 17:00 |
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| cyrus_mc | Sam-I-Am: they are craeted as shared, that is what is weird | 17:02 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you also dinked with the db behind openstack's back | 17:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | so i guarantee you that's why things didnt work | 17:05 |
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| cyrus_mc | Sam-I-Am: ya.ok. Thanks for info | 17:10 |
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| matt_welch | Is there a way to list projects within a certain region/ | 17:29 |
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| umbSublime_ | does anyone know what the technical reason that we can not specify a destination host when doing a "nova migrate" vs "nova live-migration" where we can? | 17:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | 'migrate' is the cloud-friendly version | 17:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | as long as the target host meets the requirements | 17:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | it just goes back into the scheduler | 17:51 |
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| Sam-I-Am | it can also be a user-level thing, whereas live-migrate is usually admin-level | 17:51 |
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| umbSublime_ | Sam-I-Am, ok, the issue know I think is that our scheduler migrates the instance on a host where there is not enough ressources. | 17:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | thats unusual | 17:58 |
| umbSublime_ | I end up calling 'nova migrate' a few times until it get's on a decent host | 17:58 |
| umbSublime_ | but it's time consuming | 17:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | sure something's not messed up in the scheduler config? | 17:59 |
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| Sam-I-Am | or reporting of resources? | 17:59 |
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| umbSublime_ | tbh I didn't set it up, I'll have to check with whoever did | 17:59 |
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| umbSublime_ | thanks for the pointer Sam-I-Am | 18:00 |
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| umbSublime_ | Sam-I-Am, I'll be reading about the scheduler, but do you know what metrics it checks on the host to consider it 'valid for migration' ?? | 18:09 |
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| Sam-I-Am | it checks things like cpus, ram, and disks | 18:10 |
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| umbSublime_ | and just to confirm, when doing a 'nova migrate' of a stopped instance the scheduler still makes sure that the dst host has enough resources ? | 18:13 |
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| Sam-I-Am | it should. instances dont need to be stopped to move. | 18:17 |
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| umbSublime_ | awesome thanks | 18:26 |
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| Supermathie | Does anyone know where I can read about what *exactly* the various user domains (esp the heat domains) actually mean? I'm trying to figure out how to fix my "Stack CREATE FAILED (%s): Authorization failed." problem and can't figure out exactly who needs what. | 18:28 |
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| bezilla | admin guide, operations guide are good places to start. there's also some oreilly books that are super helpful on safari online | 18:29 |
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| Supermathie | It's mostly this line that I'm trying to figure out *why* heat would be creating users, groups, projects, etc. | 18:31 |
| Supermathie | > A ‘stack user domain’ can be treated as a namespace for projects, groups and users created by heat. The domain will have an admin user that manages other users, groups and projects in the domain. | 18:31 |
| Supermathie | but I'll check those out thanks | 18:31 |
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| umbSublime_ | Sam-I-Am, turns out we don't use the filter RamFilter and we also have "ram_allocation_ratio=1.5" so yah no wonder :p | 18:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | heh | 18:41 |
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| ThiagoCMC | Hey guys, how to get the floating IP of a server using "openstack" CLI command? | 18:58 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ThiagoCMC: it would be when you do server list | 18:58 |
| ThiagoCMC | Currently, I have this: "nova floating-ip-list | grep `nova list | grep $OS_STACK-stream-1 | awk $'{print $2}'` | awk $'{print $4}'" | 18:59 |
| ThiagoCMC | which sucks... hehe | 18:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | thats very outdated :) | 18:59 |
| ThiagoCMC | I know | 18:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | 'openstack server list' | 18:59 |
| ThiagoCMC | I want to do it differently now... ^_^ | 18:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | at that point you might as well just have the command output something more easily parsable | 18:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | like json | 18:59 |
| ThiagoCMC | Mmm... | 19:00 |
| ThiagoCMC | I just want to know the Floating IP for a specific server. | 19:00 |
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| Supermathie | ThiagoCMC, openstack server show UUID -c addresses -f shell → addresses="test-internal=10.0.1.27, 10.12.136.72" | 19:17 |
| Supermathie | guess we have to 'know' that the second address there is floating? | 19:17 |
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| ThiagoCMC | Supermathie, niiice! I'll try it now... | 19:20 |
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| ThiagoCMC | Nice! "openstack server show cs-stack-1-stream-1 -c addresses -f shell | cut -d \; -f 2 | cut -d , -f 2 | xargs" | 19:29 |
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| jmlowe | Has anybody ever seen this error when trying to bring up a vxlan interface "SIOCSIFFLAGS: No buffer space available"? | 19:50 |
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| Sam-I-Am | jmlowe: ew | 19:53 |
| jmlowe | right | 19:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | overloaded host? | 19:53 |
| jmlowe | I'm now wondering if it's actually coming from the vxlan offload engine on my intel x710 nic | 19:53 |
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| oxkipo | Hi Im getting this error while trying to create an instance on an empty host | 19:56 |
| oxkipo | Last exception: The request you have made requires authentication. (HTTP 401) | 19:56 |
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| umbSublime_ | oxkipo, did you source the openrc.sh file ? | 20:00 |
| oxkipo | its from horizon | 20:01 |
| umbSublime_ | ohh | 20:01 |
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| oxkipo | here is the log | 20:02 |
| oxkipo | http://paste.openstack.org/show/587583/ | 20:02 |
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| ThiagoCMC | There is an script, called "openstack.py", an Ansible Dynamic Inventory example... I'm surprised that it shows the Floating IP as "accessIPv4" field but, "openstack server show instance-1" shows an empty accessipv4 field! | 20:04 |
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| oxkipo | umbSublime_: do you know what could be wrong? | 20:09 |
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| umbSublime_ | no clue sorry, but I'd suggest trying from the command line with --debug | 20:10 |
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| oxkipo | ok | 20:10 |
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| Phlunk3 | hey all, colleague spun up an instance with no block storage so everything is in ephemeral, if I create a snapshot of this will all that data be there or will it just be a snapshot of the original image the instance was created from? | 22:32 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the data should be there | 22:32 |
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| Phlunk3 | thanks Sam | 22:34 |
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