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| dxiri | Sam-I-Am: ping to/from the dhcp namespace don't work | 00:01 |
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| dxiri | tcpdump along the path, I did that already (tracing where it breaks) I see the dhcp request coming into the physical host, but it never enters the container | 00:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | there should be a veth pair between the host and container, right? | 00:02 |
| dxiri | this is all real hardware, 4 nodes, 1 controller, 1 compute, 1 storage, 1 central logging | 00:02 |
| Sam-I-Am | is this something you made yourself, or using a deployment tool? | 00:02 |
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| dxiri | Sam-I-Am: using openstack-ansible | 00:03 |
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| Sam-I-Am | can you see what happens at the veth pair into the container? | 00:04 |
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| dxiri | how can I tell if its veth or not? | 00:08 |
| dxiri | let me get you the interface list on a pastebin | 00:08 |
| dxiri | hang on | 00:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | containers use veths into the underlying OS | 00:09 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so there's a pair from whatever is the provider network inside the agent container to some interface on the host | 00:09 |
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| dxiri | here: http://paste.openstack.org/show/587842/ | 00:13 |
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| dxiri | my provider network is on eth1 with IP 172.25.190.251, no bridge or anything, eth0 has 3 different bridges and the containers are tied to those bridges, the paste also has the output of the brctl show if you need it :) | 00:16 |
| dxiri | I'm completely lost since I am noob both on openstack and openstack ansible :P | 00:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | so there's no bridge with an interface on eth1? | 00:16 |
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| dxiri | no bridge on eth1 | 00:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | so your instances on private nets can't see out either? | 00:17 |
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| dxiri | I don't have a router yet, I wanted the private nets to be vm-to-vm only, and have the provider network IPs to get directly attached to the VMs | 00:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | i think you should see eth1 plugged into br-vlan | 00:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | so my guess is something wasn't configured correctly in the inventory file | 00:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | or the config file... it uses dynamic inventory | 00:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | if this is your first time using openstack, o-a may be a little too advanced if you're just shooting for a POC to see if it works | 00:19 |
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| dxiri | mmmm, why br-vlan? isn't that for well...vlans? | 00:23 |
| dxiri | flat/provider network is untagged | 00:23 |
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| Sam-I-Am | iirc, it handles both flat and vlan networks | 00:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | which are essentially the same thing, just flat lacks a tag | 00:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | but they're not tunneled | 00:27 |
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| dxiri | so If I do that...I would have to change neutron config to point flat at the br-vlan bridge? | 00:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | well, whats in your o-a config? | 00:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | i suspect the problem is there | 00:31 |
| dxiri | let me get that | 00:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | something in there needs to mention eth1 | 00:32 |
| dxiri | http://paste.openstack.org/show/587843/ | 00:33 |
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| dxiri | (thanks so much for your help so far) | 00:33 |
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| Sam-I-Am | well, line 49... that should be eth1 | 00:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | host_bind_override | 00:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | also a little curious why i see vlan subints in your bridge output | 00:35 |
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| Sam-I-Am | eth0.10, eth0.20, eth0.30, etc | 00:37 |
| dxiri | cause I wanted tagged traffic for that | 00:37 |
| dxiri | so br-mgmt is all tagged with vlan 10 for example | 00:37 |
| dxiri | and I have that same config on the switch | 00:37 |
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| dxiri | so if I change that line...do I need to first attach eth1 to the br-vlan bridge? | 00:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | whats on eth0.20 and 30? | 00:39 |
| dxiri | I based my config on this by the way http://docs.openstack.org/developer/openstack-ansible/install-guide/app-config-test.html#test-environment-config | 00:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | ah, ok | 00:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | heh, i wrote a good chunk of that | 00:39 |
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| Sam-I-Am | its also possible there's a problem in your interfaces config file | 00:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | namely br-vlan | 00:40 |
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| dxiri | 30 is tunnel vlan, 20 is storage vlan | 00:42 |
| dxiri | you wrote it? awesome :) looks like I came to the right place | 00:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | well, there is an openstack-ansible channel on here | 00:42 |
| dxiri | I know..I already asked there | 00:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | i figured out how to put neutron in containers way back when | 00:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | it makes things a little messy for new people | 00:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | unless you're really familiar with linux networking | 00:43 |
| dxiri | they did help, but I figured I had a problem not related to OSA itself | 00:43 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yeah, this isnt an o-a problem | 00:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | its a config issue somewhere | 00:43 |
| dxiri | I am familiar with linux networking, but not to this inception level of interfaces inside interfaces inside interfaces | 00:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah, and bridges | 00:44 |
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| Sam-I-Am | what are you looking to do with openstack? | 00:44 |
| dxiri | want to spin up caches for a CDN we want to fully virtualize | 00:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | ah. what are you using now? | 00:45 |
| dxiri | we have different versions of the CDN software, so I want to be able to spin up and tear down envs at will for testing | 00:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | ah, cool | 00:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | well, i'd either reconfig o-a to use eth1 for br-vlan (and/or your interfaces file) ... run the things... see if that works | 00:47 |
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| Sam-I-Am | otherwise you could try shoving eth1 into br-vlan manually | 00:47 |
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| Sam-I-Am | its pretty clear br-vlan has no ports on anything but container interfaces at this time | 00:48 |
| dxiri | ah, one point I forgot to mention | 00:48 |
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| dxiri | if I log into a vm console | 00:48 |
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| dxiri | and set the IP manually in there | 00:48 |
| dxiri | say 172.25.190.61/24 and 172.25.190.1 as gateway | 00:48 |
| dxiri | it works | 00:49 |
| dxiri | internet and everything | 00:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | there's a neutron l2 agent on the compute node | 00:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'm guessing it is working | 00:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | its your controller node (or whatever you showed me) thats messed up | 00:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | so whats the output of brctl show on the compute node with that instance? | 00:50 |
| dxiri | let me get that | 00:51 |
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| dxiri | http://paste.openstack.org/show/587846/ | 00:54 |
| dxiri | an example would be tap91b7c922-82 | 00:55 |
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| Sam-I-Am | well, in this case, brq088xxx looks like your provider net, and its actually using eth0, not eth1 | 00:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | so you might want to check where eth0 actually goes | 00:56 |
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| Sam-I-Am | if there is an eth1, its not using it | 00:58 |
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| dxiri | my thinking was to have eth1 with only an IP so I can reach from anywhere provided I have vpn access if I ended up breking the whole setup | 00:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | so, out of band mgmt? | 00:59 |
| dxiri | eth0 and eth1 should be able to commnunicate between each other shouldn't they? its all directly connected network to the linux box | 00:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | yes, to some extent. | 01:00 |
| dxiri | what do you mean by "check where eth0 actually goes"? | 01:00 |
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| dxiri | If I do a dhcp request right now, I see the packets going out of eth0 | 01:00 |
| Sam-I-Am | it sounded like you wanted your provider network on eth1 | 01:01 |
| dxiri | and they do get into the controller/network node | 01:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | but apparently its on eth0? | 01:01 |
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| dxiri | crap, I confused you :P | 01:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | yep | 01:01 |
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| dxiri | ok so, 172.25.190.0/24 its a network that we have on the lab, that has a juniper firewall as a gateway on 172.25.190.1 | 01:02 |
| dxiri | on the openstack setup, I use the 3 networks you saw on the configuration file | 01:02 |
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| dxiri | now what I want to do, is to give the VMs an IP on the 172.25.190.0/24 network so that they can be directly accesses | 01:03 |
| dxiri | accessed | 01:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | so 190/24 is connected to eth0, untagged? | 01:03 |
| dxiri | no | 01:03 |
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| dxiri | eth1 untagged | 01:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | so what are you pinging from the vm that works? | 01:04 |
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| dxiri | anything on 190/24, provided I set a static IP | 01:04 |
| dxiri | I can ping the juniper gateway, the DNS server | 01:05 |
| dxiri | everything | 01:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | something is fishy here | 01:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | almost as if you really have eth0 on the layer 2 network that contains 190/24 | 01:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | or something is plumbed very weirdly | 01:06 |
| dxiri | I have both eth0 and eth1 connected to the same switch | 01:06 |
| dxiri | in fact, all hosts are on the same switch | 01:06 |
| Sam-I-Am | are they both on the same layer 2 network? | 01:06 |
| dxiri | they must be if they are connected to the same switch | 01:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | well, you could put ports in separate vlans | 01:08 |
| dxiri | its only that I am not using eth0 directly (cause its part of the bridges) | 01:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | but sounds like you have a little bit of a switching loop going on | 01:08 |
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| dxiri | If I wanted to....I could set an IP on the 190/24 to any of the bridges | 01:09 |
| dxiri | will that help? | 01:09 |
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| dxiri | why switching loop? | 01:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | well, the reason this seems to work is because eth0 on your compute node is on the same layer-2 network as eth1 | 01:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | so it "seems" to work | 01:11 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so you have one more thing sort of messed up here | 01:13 |
| dxiri | so what if I set an ip in the range of 190/24 to br-vlan? | 01:14 |
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| dxiri | or to br-mgmt | 01:14 |
| dxiri | will that make the dhcp work, or do you think I have something messed up bad that will bite me later? | 01:15 |
| dxiri | this is the only thing I can see broken right now | 01:15 |
| dxiri | the rest looks good | 01:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | well, i bet if you did 'brctl addif br-vlan eth1' it might work | 01:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | you have a lot of things messed up at this point | 01:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | it might also create a switching loop | 01:15 |
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| dxiri | if I do that...I lose the IP on eth1 right? so I would need to set that on br-vlan | 01:16 |
| dxiri | or do I leave it without ip | 01:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | just leave it without | 01:16 |
| dxiri | k let me try | 01:17 |
| dxiri | one mi | 01:17 |
| dxiri | min | 01:17 |
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| Sam-I-Am | neutron passes the ip from the dhcp namespace all the way through to eth1 | 01:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | br-vlan, and eth1, is just a layer-2 thing at this point | 01:17 |
| dxiri | that's on the controller node right? | 01:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah | 01:17 |
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| dxiri | k its done | 01:21 |
| dxiri | trying now | 01:21 |
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| dxiri | ah shit | 01:23 |
| dxiri | forgot about haproxy | 01:23 |
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| dxiri | which had an ip on eth1 as an external ip | 01:23 |
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| dxiri | I rebooted from nova cli, and looks like I can ping it :) | 01:30 |
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| dxiri | no ssh though, trying with a brand new instance | 01:31 |
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| Sam-I-Am | that could be a secgroup issue | 01:33 |
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| dxiri | I have the defaults which I believe is wide open | 01:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | no, they arent | 01:33 |
| dxiri | really? I have seen ingress ipv4 and 0.0.0.0 on the sec group | 01:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | weird. maybe something set them that way, but by default all inbound to instance is blocked | 01:34 |
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| dxiri | does cirros default image has ssh already enabled? | 01:38 |
| dxiri | that was I was testing with | 01:38 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yeah | 01:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | however, if it cant get metadata for some reason, startup of the ssh daemon may take a while | 01:40 |
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| dxiri | ok this is taking a while to figure out...so assuming this made it work...how would this translate into the o-a config? | 01:43 |
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| dxiri | just change the host bind override? | 01:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | well, changing host_bind_override to eth1 is a start | 01:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | then you probably need to remove the untagged vlan from whatever port eth0 plugs into your switches | 01:44 |
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| dxiri | got it :) thanks a lot for your help | 01:49 |
| dxiri | I will come back tomorrow and try that | 01:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | ok. where are you based? | 01:50 |
| dxiri | Sam-I-Am: long live Dr Seuss | 01:50 |
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| dxiri | Costa Rica | 01:50 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ok, so close to my time zone | 01:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | its pretty late here now | 01:50 |
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| dxiri | 8pm here | 01:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | same here | 01:50 |
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| Sam-I-Am | and i like my green eggs and ham | 01:50 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i'll be around a little tomorrow morning, but not much. back monday most of the day. | 01:51 |
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| dxiri | cool, thanks a ton! | 01:54 |
| dxiri | enjoy your night, and the weekend if I don't see you again this week | 01:54 |
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| Sam-I-Am | dxiri: seeya! | 02:04 |
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| anrah | Hi! I have a problem with heat and deleting/getting status of stacks when the heat api is provided with tls | 10:40 |
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| anrah | Listing and creating works fine, but deleting is for some reason redirecting the delete request to plain http and that won't work as keystone is not listening the http | 10:41 |
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| cr0wrx | Hi guys! Does anyone here know how performance heavy compute and storage nodes are on the boot partition? Thinking about shuffling around configurations a bit for a small cluster. If everything is backed by a ceph cluster (cinder/swift/etc). would there be any major issues with not running SSDs for boot disks? | 15:58 |
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| wN | cr0wrx: boot partition? you mean /boot? | 16:04 |
| cr0wrx | OS partition | 16:04 |
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| cr0wrx | ie if I wanted a compute node where ephemeral/block storage was all backed by ceph, would just a couple hdd disks be sufficient on that physical node (to run the OS, store logs, etc) | 16:05 |
| Sketch | yes, even just one would be sufficient (but not very redundant) | 16:06 |
| haukebruno | cr0wrx, absolutely. we run the instances and stuff on NFS and use just 2 small SSDs in a raid1 array for the OS | 16:06 |
| cr0wrx | well we were thinking just a couple disks RAID 1 so we have a little redundancy for OS / logs | 16:06 |
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| cr0wrx | we want HDDs though instead of SSD - that's what I'm primarily checking on - if performance would be an issue at all, or if it really just needs to run OS and write logs | 16:07 |
| cr0wrx | We have SSDs in them now, but it's a strange setup and we want to repurpose the SSDs into a new ceph pool | 16:07 |
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| Sketch | the controllers will have databases and stuff on them, but the compute nodes are pretty much just OS and logs. | 16:07 |
| cr0wrx | same question goes for storage node - can the OS for that also be fine on HDD | 16:07 |
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| Sketch | should be fine | 16:08 |
| cr0wrx | yea, I've checked here before for controllers and sounds like there could be issues if you have a lot of VMs (and especially if a lot of simultaneous requests to spin up / modify VMs or whatever since that is handled on controller) | 16:08 |
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| cr0wrx | our setup is small enough that we aren't there yet and would really be better off if we can simplify our setup and keep costs low and then adjust later as needed (with this next batch of hardware we are moving to HA so that becomes an option finally) | 16:09 |
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| Sketch | even then i don't think that would be an issue unless your installation is very large | 16:10 |
| Sketch | the ceph storage is where you're going to want your fast storage | 16:10 |
| cr0wrx | we are thinking a couple HDDs for all node types - controller, compute, and storage. Same setup across the board for OS/base disks. Then the storage node will get a bunch more SSDs and HDDs for ceph OSDs | 16:10 |
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| Sketch | that's what we do | 16:10 |
| cr0wrx | it's not huge, it'll be 8-9 nodes after this install | 16:10 |
| Sketch | SATA/SAS HDDs for the OS, SSD storage for ceph | 16:10 |
| cr0wrx | baby installation compared to most I'm sure | 16:10 |
| Sketch | we're currently at 6 nodes :) | 16:11 |
| cr0wrx | ah, cool | 16:11 |
| haukebruno | we here have a lot of overhead in the controlplane :p running about ~25 control plane nodes for just 10 KVMs | 16:12 |
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| cr0wrx | our setup has been strange so far, it's currently at 4 nodes but since it didn't provide HA on controller and we had a single storage node with limited disks we did a bunch of non-standard things like running RAID on the storage node (for the ceph OSD, etc) and we are getting to the point where it'll be nice to not do weird things | 16:13 |
| cr0wrx | we are starting to see latency on the storage raid array when some VMs do lots of things | 16:14 |
| cr0wrx | and then ceph barfs, and then object storage becomes unavailable and returns 503, etc. | 16:14 |
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| cr0wrx | 25 nodes for 10 KVMs? ha lucky | 16:15 |
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| haukebruno | cr0wrx, yeah thats kind of paranoia maybe ;) | 16:16 |
| haukebruno | well, we also had lot of issues in our first ceph cluster. we had no journals, too big nodes, to few nodes at all | 16:16 |
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| cr0wrx | not as bad as ours. our storage node is ceph, 1 OSD that is backed by a RAID array of a handful of disks, no journal | 16:17 |
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| cr0wrx | but we were new, didn't really know what we were doing, and didn't understand this whole OSD thing too much and wanted to ensure we had replication and could survive some of our limited drives dying so we went with what we knew - RAID, for the time being...with plans to change it as we expanded and became more comfortable with ceph and openstack in general | 16:18 |
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| einjen | regarding horizon/openstack dashboard: How do I copy the default theme to my own theme? | 18:07 |
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| wowbagger42 | Hi everyone, I got an issue trying to connect to openstack from ansible... Followed this guide: http://redhatstackblog.redhat.com/2016/10/13/full-stack-automation-with-ansible-and-openstack/ but I get "msg": "Error fetching image list: Problem with auth parameters"... | 18:45 |
| wowbagger42 | anyone any idea? | 18:45 |
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| wowbagger42 | sensible 2.2.0 / openstack client 3.3.0 | 18:45 |
| wowbagger42 | ansible... | 18:46 |
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| NeilHanlon | hey everyone :) Is it possible to run the keystone v2 and v3 apis in parallel? | 18:58 |
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| admin0 | NeilHanlon: that is my use case and it should be possible .. but use different endpoints | 19:08 |
| NeilHanlon | It looks like it runs them automatically | 19:08 |
| NeilHanlon | just had to test it | 19:08 |
| NeilHanlon | silly me :P | 19:08 |
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| wowbagger42 | is there an automated way to get a formatted clouds.yaml file from os_client_config.config ? | 19:48 |
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| NeilHanlon | hooking the block storage service to an existing equallogic SAN won't blow anything away, right? | 20:14 |
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| morsik | Hi, I did very simple openstack setup using flat networking. It is normal that I'm getting 404 on /v2.0/routers.json from neutron-server? | 22:15 |
| morsik | Horizon shouts about this all the time :( | 22:16 |
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| cgimeno | Hello all | 23:00 |
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| s1c | howdy | 23:02 |
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| cgimeno | may I ask a question regarding nova? | 23:05 |
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| s1c | ok | 23:05 |
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| cgimeno | I'm trying to deploy it behind an SSL proxy | 23:06 |
| cgimeno | I've added secure_proxy_ssl_header=X-Forwarded-Proto to my nova.conf but for some reason nova it's not using this option | 23:07 |
| cgimeno | Obviously, my proxy has http-request add-header X-Forwarded-Proto https (HAProxy 1.6) | 23:08 |
| cgimeno | do i have to change anything else at nova.conf? | 23:09 |
| s1c | i don't know, sorry | 23:10 |
| cgimeno | no problem ;) | 23:10 |
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| silvrax | Heat question, is it possible to create a stack with a number of nodes (x), connected to a number of networks (y), where x and y would be stack parameters? | 23:44 |
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| silvrax | For example is x is 3 and y is 2, it would create 2 networks and 3 nodes, where each node would have two network ports, one on each networks? | 23:45 |
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