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masber | hi | 00:23 |
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masber | ubuntu images are .img, which option should I choose on horizon if I want to import an ubuntu image? | 00:24 |
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mguiney | masber: have you tried using the commands listed here? https://docs.openstack.org/user-guide/common/cli-manage-images.html | 00:26 |
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masber | mguiney, I used horizon | 00:26 |
masber | the thing is that I uploaded the iamge as wcaw2 | 00:27 |
masber | qcaw2 | 00:27 |
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masber | but the instance does not boot | 00:28 |
masber | it says "Booting from hard disk..." | 00:28 |
masber | so I assume I am uploading the image in the right way | 00:28 |
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eggnogsc_ | Did you mean qcow2 | 00:29 |
masber | eggnogsc_, yes qcow2 | 00:29 |
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eggnogsc_ | Did you verify the md5 for the image? | 00:30 |
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eggnogsc_ | Could be corrupt image | 00:31 |
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masber | eggnogsc_, I downloaded the image twice | 00:32 |
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masber | I am trying now with ubuntu16.04 | 00:32 |
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eGGnogSC | I would confirm the checksum first | 00:32 |
masber | the thing is that ubuntu16.10 image is just 30MB while 16.04 is 1Gigs | 00:33 |
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eGGnogSC | Then I would check your disk type. You may need to pass some metadata to force an ide or scsi drive type depending on what the image was built in | 00:33 |
masber | sorry ubuntu 16.10 is just 300Megs | 00:33 |
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masber | ok | 00:34 |
masber | I am trying now with 16.04 | 00:34 |
eGGnogSC | Do a md5 <path/to/image> after you download | 00:36 |
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eGGnogSC | Compare to https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/xenial/current/MD5SUMS | 00:37 |
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eGGnogSC | assuming you are pulling the cloud image that is | 00:37 |
eGGnogSC | Which can be pulled from https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/xenial/current/ | 00:38 |
KarlKloppenborg | spo | 00:40 |
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masber | eggmaster, yep I am using that link | 00:47 |
masber | ok I will do md5 after download | 00:47 |
masber | also, do you know how to migrate an instance to another openstack environment? | 00:48 |
masber | I tried following this doc --> https://docs.openstack.org/user-guide/cli-use-snapshots-to-migrate-instances.html | 00:49 |
masber | but the image/snapshot created by nova image-create has size 0 | 00:49 |
masber | which is quite strange | 00:50 |
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evatr | hi | 02:58 |
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masber | hi | 03:11 |
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h0l0l0l | hi all, looking at ocata neutron with linuxbridge agent for self service networks.. getting this error when trying to start the linuxbridge-agent on my controller: can't add tapb6b4b87a-93 to bridge ens3: Operation not supported | 04:00 |
h0l0l0l | should linuxbridge be able to add a tap to a physical interface? | 04:00 |
h0l0l0l | or does it not work like this...? | 04:00 |
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masber | h0l0l0l, I am not sure if this will help you, but have you seen this? https://www.rdoproject.org/networking/networking-in-too-much-detail/ | 04:04 |
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h0l0l0l | masber: sure i've seen this.. i'll take a look again though :) | 04:04 |
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masber | h0l0l0l, according to that document tap devices are connected to virtual nics | 04:05 |
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h0l0l0l | masber, well one obvious difference in that and what i'm doing is i'm running linuxbridge mechanism instead of openvswitch | 04:07 |
masber | the physical interface are connected to a bridge (br-tun, br-int, br-ext) to to a tap device, again I am not an expert, just trying to through some ideas | 04:08 |
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h0l0l0l | masber, sure -- thanks .. the issue here is that on the neutron server i should be getting a linuxbridge created where the provider network port is tapped to the physical network | 04:10 |
h0l0l0l | i see it trying in the neutron-linuxbridge agent log, but failing with the error i mentioned | 04:10 |
h0l0l0l | it's trying to run " brctl addif ens3 tapb6b4b87a-93 ".. the tap device exists, and ens3 is unnumbered | 04:11 |
h0l0l0l | but what i'm wondering is if i shouldn't be trying to bridge to a physical interface directly in this fasion | 04:11 |
masber | hum... hopefully someone here may hel[ | 04:11 |
masber | help | 04:11 |
masber | I am trying to create a server from an image but I am getting this message "Volume is smaller than the minimum size specified in image metadata. Volume size is 10737418240 bytes, minimum size is 42949672960 bytes." | 04:11 |
masber | I tried to edit the image like this --> openstack image set --property min_disk=5 2a9e096f-c9df-4ac6-85fe-6a5d714758d7 | 04:12 |
h0l0l0l | what command are you using to launch? | 04:12 |
masber | but it says "Unable to set 'min_disk' to '5' | 04:12 |
masber | " | 04:12 |
masber | this is the command "openstack server create --image 2a9e096f-c9df-4ac6-85fe-6a5d714758d7 --flavor 4 test" | 04:12 |
h0l0l0l | what's flavor 4 look like? standard? | 04:13 |
masber | flavor 4 is m1.large | 04:13 |
h0l0l0l | can you do 'openstack image show 2a9e096f-c9df-4ac6-85fe-6a5d714758d7' | 04:14 |
masber | http://paste.openstack.org/raw/600874/ | 04:15 |
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h0l0l0l | since that's a snapshot of another image which was booted from a 10G volume... i'm not sure you can make it smaller than that | 04:17 |
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h0l0l0l | you can try to set mn size to 10 | 04:17 |
h0l0l0l | or 11 | 04:17 |
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masber | I tried to edit the image min_disk value to 10 or 20 but apparently I am not allowed to do that | 04:19 |
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h0l0l0l | yeah you'll need admin credentials to edit the image metadata then | 04:20 |
h0l0l0l | i guess | 04:20 |
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masber | im trying as admin | 04:21 |
h0l0l0l | what's the result now? same as before? | 04:21 |
masber | yes | 04:21 |
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h0l0l0l | can you get some info on this snapshot id ed190eb0-63aa-4114-b6c7-dfedd02b7945 ? | 04:22 |
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masber | http://paste.openstack.org/raw/600876/ | 04:24 |
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h0l0l0l | eesh, yeah this looks a bit hairy.. i'm not much of a snapshot user, but you can see how this rabbit hole goes deeper. i think this volume_size 10 and min_disk 40 in the volume_image_metadata for that guy's causing some pain for you | 04:28 |
h0l0l0l | you've got another snapshot id, and image id now to look at | 04:28 |
h0l0l0l | sorry... maybe this helps at least give you some idea of the root cause.. i'm not going to be much help in resolution | 04:29 |
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Amit82 | Hi All, | 04:33 |
Amit82 | I have installed Openstack using Openstack-Ansible 14.0.8 | 04:33 |
Amit82 | while launching instance, I am facing this error: "No valid host was found. There are not enough hosts available." | 04:33 |
Amit82 | systemctl status neutron-linuxbridge-agent.service is giving this: http://paste.openstack.org/show/600819/ | 04:33 |
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Amit82 | eutron logs on compute node is showing this: http://paste.openstack.org/show/600877/ | 04:34 |
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Amit82 | Any pointers that what can be the issue | 04:34 |
cyberworm54 | Interface eth12 for physical network flat does not exist | 04:34 |
cyberworm54 | Are you using vxlans? | 04:34 |
h0l0l0l | Amit82: what does 'ip dev show eth12' show on your compute node? | 04:35 |
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h0l0l0l | Amit82: also you'll need to look at the logs for neutron-linuxbridge-agent on your controller to see why it's failing to start | 04:36 |
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h0l0l0l | scratch that last statement | 04:36 |
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Amit82 | "ip addr show dev eth12" says "Device "eth12" does not exist." | 04:38 |
h0l0l0l | there ya go | 04:38 |
h0l0l0l | probably shouldn't have it in your config | 04:38 |
Amit82 | Actually I installed it using openstack-ansible | 04:38 |
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poopcat | Amit82, try that command inside the neutron_agent_container | 04:39 |
Amit82 | not sure why eth12 is being picked for compute node | 04:39 |
h0l0l0l | masber: i'm an idiot, i have bridge_mappings = provider:ens3 set...... probably this should be physical_interface_mappings | 04:42 |
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masber | what is the difference between volume and image? | 05:47 |
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Desdic | Hi .. is there a way to create a instance as admin but in another project/for a user? | 07:41 |
Desdic | command line that is | 07:42 |
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Desdic | or maybe possible to get a access token for that user (still as admin) | 07:43 |
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Desdic | anoyone online that uses the API or command line for creating instances ? | 08:20 |
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vgeorga | Im getting this error when I try to launch an Instance on horizon Error: No valid host was found. There are not enough hosts available | 09:25 |
vgeorga | Any thoughts? | 09:26 |
Desdic | vgeorga: you should check your logs because it seems that you don't have any compute nodes | 09:26 |
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vgeorga | ok first of all I m pretty sure that all nova operations are alive | 09:27 |
vgeorga | <Desdic> Which logs are you refering to? | 09:28 |
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vgeorga | '/var/log/nova'? | 09:28 |
Desdic | vgeorga: I would start with nova | 09:28 |
Desdic | yeah | 09:28 |
Desdic | horizon is just apache and gives really bad logging (in my opinion) | 09:29 |
Desdic | also check the nova log on the compute nodes | 09:29 |
Desdic | on your control plane what does 'openstack hypervisor list' say ? | 09:30 |
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vgeorga | <Desdic>Ok alot of ERRORS but the last line says something like this | 09:31 |
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vgeorga | PortBindingFailed: Binding failed for port 601801f1-5643-4665-91a8-fbbe620f8802, please check neutron logs for more information. 2017-02-28 19:04:22.286 26044 ERROR nova.compute.manager [instance: f145d3fb-3d01-48ee-9713-0570943f75a1] | 09:31 |
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Desdic | so something is wrong with neutron | 09:31 |
vgeorga | ID | Hypervisor Hostname | +----+---------------------+ | 1 | compute1 | 09:32 |
vgeorga | hypervisor is there | 09:32 |
vgeorga | neutron server i suppose | 09:33 |
Desdic | what if you run 'neutron agent-list' do you see all the services you expect ? | 09:33 |
vgeorga | 2017-03-01 10:46:25.096 5269 ERROR neutron.plugins.ml2.managers [req-915443f4-d120-4639-8286-6425e54d2ae9 a98e7aeaa51d4a0fb30452b3b44e09a8 14930ffdb5e347ddaea0d038b1586d54 - - -] Failed to bind port 70f6268a-04b1-4fe3-bc5e-c8095694095f on host compute1 for vnic_type normal using segments [{'segmentation_id': 63, 'physical_network': None, 'id': u'f3370eba-a40b-4207-a1c9-47ae110ce32d', 'network_type': u'vxlan'}] | 09:34 |
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vgeorga | DHCP l3 linx bridge | 09:37 |
vgeorga | Metadata X2 | 09:37 |
vgeorga | yeah i think i got them all | 09:38 |
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vgeorga | <Desdic> Any thoughts on the neutron error? | 09:41 |
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Desdic | vgeorga: not besides looking into neutrol log, dmesg and nova logs :( | 09:45 |
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Desdic | vgeorga: Also I'm quite new to openstack so I came here for a question but you are the only one that seems to be awake :) | 09:54 |
egonzalez | Desdic, is you do ovs-vsctl show can see tunnel connection created between neutron node and compute in the right IP? | 09:55 |
egonzalez | Desdic, sorry, didn't read you have linux bridges, that command won't work | 09:57 |
Desdic | egonzalez: yeah I haven't tried ovs | 09:57 |
Desdic | But my test installation is working .. I'm just trying to figure out how to automate creation of instances when I don't have the users passwords | 09:58 |
Desdic | or tokens for that matter | 09:58 |
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SVK | ERROR nova.compute.api .. No cells are configured, unable to list instances ??? Ocata | 10:06 |
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egonzalez | SVK, upgrade or fresh deploy? | 10:07 |
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SVK | Fresh...3 Node (Contoller,Network,Compute with vxlan) | 10:08 |
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egonzalez | SVK, executed nova-manage cell_v2 simple_cell_setup command? | 10:09 |
SVK | yes | 10:09 |
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brandor5 | Hello everyone: I'm trying to set up and openstack POC using juju/maas and I'm running into trouble with vlan external and provider networks... flat works fine, but vlan networks fail to pass traffic past the neutron-gateway... or just don't seem to work in the provider case... Anyone have any ideas as to what could be going wrong? the bundle I'm using is: http://pastebin.com/x1YsyHg3 | 13:22 |
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brandor5 | anyone? | 13:38 |
jayc | exit | 13:43 |
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XModeMunx | Anoyne got 5 minutes to help a noob get a detacentre-style connection to his openstack cluster? | 13:58 |
XModeMunx | (using horizon) I assume I can just set my network as external and then add in a network to match my datacentre network, and it'll just work. But attaching the physical interface doesn't seem to work, and with floating IPs I assume I wouldn't neet to define this network :-/ | 13:58 |
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XModeMunx | Do I need to have an openstack network bridge that is the same as my management network? Or should I be able to assign floating IPs from this range without defining the network? | 14:03 |
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XModeMunx | Can anyone tell me when there are references to "physical network" - does this mean the physical interface? | 14:57 |
brad[] | https://hastebin.com/ipuwiwenug.vbs | 14:57 |
brad[] | Where does one even start with this? | 14:57 |
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brad[] | I've inserted some debugging into /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/nova/objects/flavor.py. It appears to relate to the date format the code is attempting to insert | 15:44 |
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brad[] | I upgraded from MariaDB 5.6 to 10.1 at the same time as Liberty -> Mitaka -> Newton. Also finding that post 5.6 enables stricter transactions which may be hanging me up? | 15:45 |
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XModeMunx | I just wanna connect my stack into my network :-( | 16:14 |
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rewbycraft | XModeMunx: I don't have much time, but I can give you a few pointers. | 16:18 |
rewbycraft | First off, which networking technology are you using? | 16:19 |
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rewbycraft | If you're using nova-network, you probably should upgrade to neutron at some point. (And I never did use that particular type, so I don't know how to make that work) | 16:19 |
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rewbycraft | If you're using neutron with the ml2 plugin, make sure you've got a flat provider enabled, add a bridge for that provider, add your physical network to the bridge and create your external network with that provider (and with the correct options for usage of external routers and d | 16:20 |
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rewbycraft | DHCP, if applicable) | 16:20 |
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lucidguy | Hmm, createing new centos 6.8 instances always end up with 7.8GB partitions? | 16:31 |
lucidguy | even though flavor is 80GB | 16:32 |
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XModeMunx | rewbycraft: I am using neitron | 16:38 |
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rewbycraft | XModeMunx: In that case, as I said, make sure to add a flat network provider, give that provider a bridge and create your external network properly | 16:39 |
XModeMunx | rewbycraft: Awesome, so, the bridge I specify - do I create a bridge of my own, or let openstack do that with the "network" to be created? | 16:40 |
rewbycraft | Ah... I forget. It's been a while | 16:40 |
XModeMunx | Okay. | 16:40 |
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rewbycraft | Let me find my notes | 16:40 |
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XModeMunx | So, Do I need to connect a network to a network with router between, or will a single network with "external" be enough in horizon? | 16:40 |
XModeMunx | my current process is: create network 172.16.1.0/24 and 172.16.2.0/24 | 16:41 |
XModeMunx | then I create a router between the two | 16:41 |
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XModeMunx | Then I need an "external" network, So do I specify external on my network there, or do I create a new one? | 16:42 |
rewbycraft | Well, as far as I'm aware neutron expects you to have at least one "external" network. These networks are basically representations of your physical network | 16:42 |
rewbycraft | These are separate networks | 16:42 |
rewbycraft | You may attach vms directly to them, if you want | 16:42 |
XModeMunx | They have to be separate networks? Oh, I can do that? Sweet. | 16:42 |
rewbycraft | But you can also have sub-networks which use routers to connect to the external network | 16:43 |
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rewbycraft | Let me find the correct docs page | 16:43 |
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XModeMunx | So, I define my "datacentre" network as 192.168.10.0/24 as a new network in horizon, and then I can attack VMs to that network. | 16:43 |
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XModeMunx | Sorry, my head is all over the place as i've been messing :-) | 16:44 |
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XModeMunx | external network = representation of external network, THAT HELPS! :-D | 16:45 |
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rewbycraft | XModeMunx: Basically, you usually have 2 or more "type_Drivers" in the ml2 cofnig | 16:45 |
rewbycraft | *config | 16:45 |
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rewbycraft | People tend to have at least "flat" in there for external networks | 16:45 |
XModeMunx | type_drivers = flat,vlan,vxlan | 16:46 |
rewbycraft | And have flat_networks = something in [ml2_type_flat] | 16:46 |
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XModeMunx | ooh, I have this: flat_networks = provider | 16:47 |
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rewbycraft | XModeMunx: Basically, you use the physical_interface_mappings to map a bridge/interface on your networking node to a nice name. You then use flat_networks=thisname to tell neutron to treat that bridge as a flat network. You can then create an external network using that "physical network" | 16:48 |
rewbycraft | (And make sure to copy appropriate ip ranges for your external network) | 16:48 |
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rewbycraft | So if you have 192.168.0.0/24 on your physical network | 16:48 |
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rewbycraft | You would make the external network in openstack use that too | 16:48 |
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rewbycraft | Because, again, it's a representation of your external network inside of openstack | 16:48 |
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rewbycraft | XModeMunx: I don't have anymore time I'm afraid. I hope I was able to give you a few pointers. | 16:49 |
XModeMunx | That is perfect to get me going! I would hug you if you was nearby, thank you | 16:50 |
brad[] | XModeMunx: Did you set up nova-network and you're switching to neutron at this point? | 16:51 |
XModeMunx | No, this is a fresh install. | 16:51 |
brad[] | ah you are using neutron | 16:51 |
XModeMunx | Yes. I'm going to remove everything, and start over. | 16:52 |
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brad[] | I'm around today if you have questions along the way | 16:54 |
XModeMunx | So, step 1: Create external network. (I can only assign this to a single project? ie: admin?) | 16:54 |
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brad[] | Generally I've created external networks in the admin project and made them shared | 16:55 |
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brandor5 | XModeMunx: If you haven't take a few minutes to try and digest this page... it's extremely helpful... https://docs.openstack.org/liberty/networking-guide/scenario-provider-ovs.html | 16:56 |
brad[] | it needs an associated subnet, which is going to be some or all of the actual subnet the NIC/bridge you're using is on | 16:56 |
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brandor5 | liberty is an old release, but the contents are still relevant | 16:56 |
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XModeMunx | Yes, I hit this before, and wasn't sure how much of it was still revelant. | 16:57 |
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XModeMunx | Given the switch to linux bridging in newton I guess I can apply the same mentality. | 16:59 |
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XModeMunx | So, I don't have bridge_mappings value hmmm. | 16:59 |
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XModeMunx | I do have this: physical_interface_mappings = provider:ens4 | 17:00 |
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brad[] | I'm still using OVS with newton, though I'd like to switch to linuxbridge. | 17:01 |
XModeMunx | Why? | 17:01 |
brad[] | OVS configuration will still work, though starting freshly with linuxbridge is a better idea | 17:01 |
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XModeMunx | Why is linux bridge preferred from ovs? | 17:02 |
brad[] | I find OVS fragile and complex. On many occasions it's taken our cloud offline during neutron upgrades | 17:02 |
brad[] | linuxbridge is preferred for me in particular because it's vastly simpler in terms of underlying mechanics | 17:02 |
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XModeMunx | fair play. | 17:02 |
brad[] | For me it's as much a matter of taste as anything else. There are uses for OVS | 17:02 |
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brad[] | I've also found OVS loses the fight for CPU contention, so overworked compute nodes experience network interruptions | 17:03 |
XModeMunx | Okay, so - let's see what I got going. I have created the flat network, but to attach an instance to it, I need to create a subnet. So, I'll create the same subnet of the underlying network. | 17:03 |
XModeMunx | brad[]: That's all good to know! | 17:03 |
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brad[] | Note that if you want to attach an instance to the flat external network all your compute nodes have to be physically connected to it | 17:04 |
brad[] | which is probably obvious, though it wasn't obvious to be at the start | 17:05 |
brad[] | s/be/me/ | 17:05 |
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XModeMunx | How are they to be "physically connected"? I assumed (possibly as you did) that I can launch them into that network simply by adding them into that network via horizon | 17:07 |
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XModeMunx | Sorry if i'm battering you with questions, I fear if I go away and read something for half an hour i'll have to wait another 12 hours for a response :-D | 17:09 |
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XModeMunx | Do I need a router with this flat network? | 17:10 |
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SamYaple | XModeMunx: the majority of the community uses OVS for what its worth | 17:24 |
SamYaple | and has since the beginning | 17:24 |
XModeMunx | SamYaple: Good to know, thanks :-) | 17:24 |
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brad[] | XModeMunx: The physical servers I mean. They'd need to be plugged into the flat network | 17:24 |
SamYaple | the "fragile OVS" thing is because OVS used to be alot worse | 17:24 |
SamYaple | but if you are ovs 2.3.1, youre fine | 17:24 |
XModeMunx | SamYaple: rgr that, thanks. | 17:25 |
brad[] | SamYaple: I may just be feeling bitterness. :-) Though I did get bitten by an MTU issue during the Mitaka/Newton upgrade and I had to intervene and set MTU on all bridges .... | 17:25 |
SamYaple | brad[]: that was neutrons fault and unrelated to linuxbridge or ovs | 17:26 |
SamYaple | both had the issue | 17:26 |
brad[] | nod | 17:26 |
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SamYaple | neutrons database had '0' set for the mtu | 17:26 |
SamYaple | turns out thats bad | 17:26 |
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brad[] | nod :P | 17:27 |
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samarendra | hi, where can i read about what actually happens when a volume is being attached to an openstack instance? | 17:36 |
samarendra | i am trying to figure out the python modules involved but have only zeroed down to nova.virt.osinfo until now | 17:38 |
samarendra | tracing an error from the volume log | 17:38 |
SamYaple | samarendra: thats a broad question. lets narrow it down | 17:38 |
SamYaple | are you talking about cinder volumes? | 17:38 |
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samarendra | SamYaple: yeah | 17:38 |
SamYaple | nova asks cinder for the appropriate information. that information changes per cinder backend. it could be a ceph rbd, or an iscsi path. | 17:39 |
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SamYaple | once it has that info, it builds an xml that libvirt uses to launch the instance | 17:39 |
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SamYaple | libvirt does the connecting to the volume | 17:39 |
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SamYaple | nova is only involved if the volume is created successfully in cinder | 17:40 |
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samarendra | SamYaple: does the same process happen when the instance is already up? | 17:40 |
SamYaple | attaching it live is a bit different. nova does regenreate the xml, but it injects the attachment into qemu directly via mon socket provided by libvirt iirc | 17:41 |
SamYaple | volume needs to be up and active first | 17:41 |
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XModeMunx | brad[]: at this point I should mention i'm KVM-nesting the compute/controller nodes - same principal applies though | 17:42 |
samarendra | SamYaple: ok. would this also involve getting any kind of information from inside the instance as opposed to only passing the volume info to it? | 17:42 |
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samarendra | sorry for using the shabby term "passing the volume info" :) | 17:43 |
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SamYaple | samarendra: where are you seeing the error in the log, cinder or nova? | 17:43 |
samarendra | SamYaple: in the cinder-volume log. | 17:44 |
SamYaple | this likely doesnt involve nova at all. at least not yet | 17:44 |
SamYaple | please pastebin the log | 17:44 |
samarendra | ok | 17:44 |
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samarendra | SamYaple: https://pastebin.osuosl.org/45486/ lines 1 and 2 | 17:45 |
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SamYaple | those are warnings. and as with most warnings, they can be safely ignored | 17:46 |
SamYaple | it looks like you are trying to _detach_ not attach a volume | 17:46 |
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samarendra | SamYaple: actually, both attachment and detachment operations are not working. | 17:48 |
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samarendra | and the volume is not recognized by the instance's OS | 17:48 |
samarendra | and this happens in only some cases. | 17:48 |
samarendra | the only difference i found between instances this works on and doesn't is the version of cloud-init | 17:48 |
samarendra | apart from the distribution of course | 17:48 |
samarendra | once attached, the volume is not detected by the instance's OS. and then it cannot be detached at all as it automatically seems to "return" to in-use state. | 17:49 |
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SamYaple | if you shutdown the instance you should be able to detach | 17:50 |
samarendra | SamYaple: yep, can confirm that. | 17:50 |
SamYaple | as for attach, these volumes dont have a filesystem on them. so nothing will see the volume until you lay down a filesystem | 17:51 |
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samarendra | SamYaple: i meant the volume doesn't show up in kernel log or lsblk or /proc/partitions | 17:51 |
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SamYaple | try attaching while the instance is shutdown | 17:52 |
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samarendra | SamYaple: that works! | 17:55 |
samarendra | so what would be stopping it from being detected sucessfully when the instance is already running ? | 17:56 |
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brad[] | So I'm having nova-manage db online_data_migrations fail due to a date formatting issue and I'm using mariadb 10.1. I was using 5.5 before this, and the 10.x upgrade came at the same time as the upgrade to M/N (it was in RDO repos). Has anyone else experienced this? | 17:58 |
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brad[] | Have narrowed it down to new defaults imposed on mariadb 5.6+ | 17:58 |
brad[] | Have considered just reverting those but... | 17:58 |
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SamYaple | samarendra: probably a kernel issue in your instance | 18:00 |
SamYaple | brad[]: mariadb 5.6 is not a thing. was that a typo? | 18:00 |
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SamYaple | samarendra: might be a package issue? but if blkid isn't showing it im betting old kernel | 18:01 |
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samarendra | SamYaple: actually one of the instances facing issue is Ubuntu 16.04 with 4.4.0-64-generic | 18:02 |
SamYaple | samarendra: old version of qemu on the host maybe? | 18:02 |
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samarendra | SamYaple: centos 7 image on the same host works but the ubuntu one doesn't. | 18:03 |
samarendra | my guess is it cannot figure out "the right way to pass volume info to the kernel because it doesn't detect the operating system on the instance rightly" | 18:04 |
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samarendra | based on the error log | 18:04 |
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SamYaple | are you using the official cloudarchive image from ubuntu | 18:05 |
samarendra | that is why i am curious whether and what kind of info is exchanged when a volume is being attached to an instance | 18:05 |
samarendra | SamYaple: yep :) | 18:05 |
samarendra | from https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/xenial/current/ | 18:05 |
SamYaple | dunno. im going to blame centos here because its centos and always to blame | 18:06 |
samarendra | haha :) | 18:06 |
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SamYaple | i would update all the packages you can. inside and out of the vm | 18:06 |
SamYaple | then find/file a bug report with nova | 18:07 |
samarendra | SamYaple: sure. will try upgrading and attaching again. | 18:07 |
brad[] | SamYaple: yes sorry. 5.5 | 18:07 |
samarendra | SamYaple: thank you for your time and the workaround :) | 18:08 |
SamYaple | brad[]: so i run mariadb 10.1 | 18:09 |
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SamYaple | brad[]: most people run 10.0 i *think* | 18:09 |
SamYaple | but its slowly moving to 10.1 | 18:09 |
brad[] | SamYaple: ah sorry. I MySQL 5.6+ and 10+ impose STRICT_TRANS_TABLES by default that's what I meant | 18:09 |
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SamYaple | migrating from mysql 5.6 to mariadb anything is not something im familiar with | 18:10 |
brad[] | our cloud had been using mariadb 5.5 .... one of our devs and I added some debug output to the flavors.py migration script | 18:10 |
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brad[] | hrm. | 18:10 |
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SamYaple | as far as i know, they are not strictly compatible. but its possible | 18:10 |
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brad[] | hrm.. | 18:11 |
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brad[] | https://hastebin.com/ocixevadeq.py we were able to get this output generated - maybe this is more for a DBA then | 18:11 |
SamYaple | i believe it is yes | 18:11 |
brad[] | I'm assuming based on what you said that 5.5 -> 10 isn't really a well tested case | 18:11 |
SamYaple | mariadb5.5 -> mariadb10 has been tested alot | 18:12 |
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SamYaple | mysql5.6 -> mariadb, not so much | 18:12 |
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brad[] | This is 5.5 -> 10 I'm just referencing 5.6 to indicate behavior changes that started in that version | 18:12 |
SamYaple | brad[]: out of curiousity, are you using mysql+pymysql connection for the database? | 18:13 |
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brad[] | I could just change the datetime format of all the created_at fields but I don't know if ... nope. Still using the older one. | 18:13 |
SamYaple | so you are still using MySQL-python? | 18:13 |
brad[] | yes | 18:13 |
brad[] | bad? | 18:13 |
SamYaple | and let me guess, its MySQL-python 1.2.3? | 18:13 |
brad[] | checking | 18:13 |
brad[] | 1.2.5-1.el7 | 18:14 |
SamYaple | hmmm | 18:14 |
SamYaple | well, for what its worth, the mysql-python plugin is not tested at all anymore | 18:14 |
SamYaple | so im not shocked bugs pop up | 18:15 |
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lucidguy | OK, wtf. Every time I create a Centos 6.8 instance/server it creates it with a 7.8GB / partition, not the full size specified from flavor??? | 18:15 |
SamYaple | pymysql is the only thing used anywhere that i know about in openstack | 18:15 |
SamYaple | lucidguy: cloud-init issue possibly | 18:15 |
SamYaple | lucidguy: check the early server logs for the "expand" stuff | 18:15 |
SamYaple | lucidguy: could be failing | 18:15 |
brad[] | SamYaple: trying pymysql | 18:16 |
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SamYaple | brad[]: mysql+pymysql plugin has been the only tested solution since Liberty i believe | 18:16 |
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lucidguy | hmm.. but this is only happening on 6.8 images, not with my ubuntu images. and I've tried different 6.8 images same issue. Centos 7 works. | 18:16 |
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SamYaple | lucidguy: sounds like cloud-init to me! | 18:16 |
brad[] | worked. | 18:16 |
brad[] | hah. | 18:16 |
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SamYaple | moral of the story, pure python is better | 18:17 |
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lucidguy | SamYaple: I believe you .. now I have to find out where to look. | 18:22 |
lucidguy | You mentioned logs, where do I find them. I never built this openstak environment and am super new to it all | 18:23 |
SamYaple | lucidguy: fwiw, im 95% sure ive run into this before and the solution was "build new image with newer cloud-init" | 18:23 |
SamYaple | lucidguy: `nova console-log <instance-uuid>` | 18:23 |
SamYaple | or in horizon i think its just called "log" in the instance window | 18:23 |
lucidguy | SamYaple: I'm downloading my images from centos site | 18:24 |
SamYaple | lucidguy: like i said, "build new image with newer cloud-init" | 18:24 |
lucidguy | SamYaple: Ok, I'll try and figure that out. | 18:24 |
SamYaple | but confirm its an issue with growpart first | 18:24 |
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lucidguy | SamYaple: looking at console-log, don't see where it fails, or the word grow for that matter | 18:28 |
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SamYaple | im not sure lucidguy. but if you are saying the partition is not growing.... cloud-init is to blame | 18:29 |
SamYaple | where thats ebcause its not running, not new enough, whatever | 18:30 |
lucidguy | SamYaple: thanks, I'll keep poking around | 18:31 |
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lucidguy | SamYaple: Are you recommending to create an image manually? https://docs.openstack.org/image-guide/create-images-manually.html | 18:38 |
brad[] | XModeMunx: - I've not worked with connecting flat networks to instances, just tenant networks I'm afraid. I could help there possibly. | 18:39 |
SamYaple | lucidguy: unfortunatelly i am | 18:39 |
brad[] | But I think it's a matter of having the compute node and network nodes on the same physical networks, matching configs etc. | 18:39 |
lucidguy | SamYaple: Yikes | 18:39 |
SamYaple | lucidguy: or, you know, use a distro made this decade :P | 18:40 |
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brad[] | is this the XFS grow issue? | 18:40 |
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XModeMunx | brad[]: That's fine, you've given me good guidance. And that link does provide some insight. Just got a bit distracted - but back on it now. | 18:40 |
SamYaple | brad[]: i believe so | 18:40 |
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lucidguy | SamYaple: You an OpenStack guru? | 18:40 |
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brad[] | you bet he is | 18:40 |
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SamYaple | i know nothing | 18:40 |
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lucidguy | SamYaple: Thanks again, 6.8 was not my decision. | 18:42 |
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brad[] | lucidguy: you could boot the base image using qemu directly from the glance storage backend under the right circumstances. Add the proper cloud-init, shut it down. | 18:42 |
SamYaple | lucidguy: it never is. it never is.... :( | 18:42 |
brad[] | That would let you avoid rolling a whole new image, but it's not too hard to do | 18:43 |
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lucidguy | brad[]: Thats beyond my skillset :) .. very green in the openstack world. | 18:43 |
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brad[] | under the right circumstances is quite the caveat though. anyone attempting to run an instance while you're doing that will end up with brokenness | 18:43 |
brad[] | ah ok | 18:43 |
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brad[] | lucidguy: I had a tiny head start by using Qemu+libvirt VM's on my Linux desktop, helped me to understand the mechanics of that part of openstack. | 18:45 |
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brad[] | it's a starting point for creating custom images | 18:45 |
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lucidguy | brad[]: what doesnt make sense to me is these are modern newly created images from centos, cloud-init must be up to date. | 18:58 |
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SamYaple | lucidguy: its not _just_ cloud init. there was another component | 18:58 |
SamYaple | like ancient version of growpart | 18:58 |
SamYaple | ancient kernel | 18:59 |
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SamYaple | it is the perfect storm of bad | 18:59 |
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lucidguy | SamYaple: I understand, but these images were created less than a month ago, you would think they work. Created by the people at Centos | 19:00 |
lucidguy | Maybe the images are too new. | 19:00 |
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SamYaple | "too new" "Centos" | 19:01 |
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lucidguy | I know .. | 19:01 |
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XModeMunx | brad[]: Holy mother on a skateboard and wearing a shellsuit onsie!! | 19:02 |
XModeMunx | I can ping my VM. | 19:02 |
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brad[] | lol | 19:02 |
brad[] | Nice. | 19:02 |
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brad[] | I had just about the same reaction. | 19:03 |
brad[] | The first time | 19:03 |
XModeMunx | brad[]: :-D | 19:03 |
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XModeMunx | brad[]: and my vm can ping 8.8.8.8. If I had the energy, i'd cry. | 19:05 |
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SamYaple | XModeMunx: now reboot your hypervisor! | 19:05 |
brad[] | lol | 19:05 |
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XModeMunx | SamYaple: You're here to ruin my day, aint ya. | 19:05 |
XModeMunx | But, you make a very valid point! | 19:06 |
XModeMunx | So, here we go.. | 19:06 |
SamYaple | that and chew gum. and im all out of gum | 19:06 |
XModeMunx | Connection closed by host. Now, we wait and ping. | 19:06 |
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SamYaple | XModeMunx: did you reboot the instance, or the hypervisor? | 19:07 |
XModeMunx | Bear in mind, my hyper is running the compute and controller nodes who in turn run their own hyper nested running the vms and such. | 19:07 |
XModeMunx | I rebooted EVERYTHING :-) | 19:07 |
SamYaple | the instances wont come back up | 19:07 |
SamYaple | youll have to start them | 19:07 |
SamYaple | there is no autostart | 19:07 |
XModeMunx | Oh yeah. There's not?? | 19:07 |
XModeMunx | virsh autostart XX an option? | 19:07 |
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SamYaple | XModeMunx: nope | 19:08 |
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SamYaple | there are technical reasons for this | 19:09 |
XModeMunx | [insert "there is no spoon" meme] | 19:09 |
SamYaple | but ignore them for now | 19:09 |
XModeMunx | I assume there's some smart people working on a fix? | 19:09 |
brad[] | there's a general rationale | 19:09 |
XModeMunx | I see pings from my hyper's-hyper, let's see what works. | 19:10 |
brad[] | well no there's not really nevermind | 19:10 |
brad[] | ;) | 19:10 |
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brad[] | I've always rationalized it as "no one expects the entire cloud to go down" and "if SRE's are going to down a compute node they should ensure the instances restart" | 19:10 |
SamYaple | XModeMunx: no. no fix | 19:11 |
SamYaple | XModeMunx: shared storage is a thing. so a hypervisor going down can move the instances to another host | 19:11 |
SamYaple | if the old one comes back up and tries to autostart... well that bad | 19:11 |
XModeMunx | I see. Well, once I brave the swift node to add into the mix, we;ll see about that "never goes down" thing you mentioned :-) | 19:11 |
XModeMunx | SamYaple: Exactly :-) | 19:12 |
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XModeMunx | hmm. For some reason my top-level bridges failed to auto-ifup. Not sure what the deal is there, but that's trivial | 19:12 |
XModeMunx | Horizon up. Let's start the testvm | 19:13 |
XModeMunx | aaaaand, it works :-p | 19:13 |
XModeMunx | \o/ | 19:13 |
XModeMunx | Wish I could take you both for a beer. | 19:14 |
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XModeMunx | Just gonna wait for the I/O errors to start flowing and data loss. | 19:15 |
lucidguy | Ok, thinking about building my own image. What I don't understand is how is this any better than the images created by Centos themselves? | 19:16 |
SamYaple | lucidguy: first you need to identify the issue. so the old version of whatever that is breaking whatever | 19:17 |
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SamYaple | lucidguy: once you do that, you need to build an image with whatever fix you choose | 19:17 |
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lucidguy | SamYaple: thats the problem I don't see where things are breaking.. I do see errors regarding No kdump initial ramdisk found.[WARNING] and an error about there might not be enough space to save a vmcore. Nothing about partitions etc. | 19:19 |
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georgem1 | lucidguy: https://github.com/chef-partners/omnibus-marketplace/issues/34 | 19:20 |
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lucidguy | georgem1: I'll give that workaround a try | 19:25 |
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umbSublime | How can I easily find the instance UUID which uses a specific volume UUID ? | 19:32 |
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SamYaple | umbSublime: go the other way, look up the volume uuid in cinder | 19:32 |
SamYaple | youll see where its attached | 19:32 |
umbSublime | alright that makes sense, but if I would like an sql query directly is there an easy way to join two tables in the cinder DB ? | 19:34 |
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umbSublime | basically what I am trying to achieve is find all volumes for a list of project_ids that are on a specific volume.host AND in volume.status 'in-use', and then get a list of instances that use these volumes | 19:36 |
FL1SK | Has anyone ever launched an instance from an ISO format that gives you EDD information unavailable from the kernel then eventually just reboots after a minute | 19:36 |
FL1SK | the same image a standard KVM Host does not show the EDD information unavailable error | 19:37 |
FL1SK | what would be different with Nova KVM? Does anyone have any clues | 19:37 |
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SamYaple | FL1SK: so openstack is wierd | 19:39 |
FL1SK | I suppose so SamYaple | 19:39 |
SamYaple | you cant really launch an instance from an ISO like that | 19:39 |
SamYaple | *technically* you can, but its not a thing you normally want to do | 19:39 |
FL1SK | right SamYaple | 19:40 |
SamYaple | openstack expects the image to be an image. like a root tarball | 19:40 |
FL1SK | I understand that | 19:40 |
SamYaple | ok | 19:40 |
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SamYaple | so the deal is with openstack, if i remember correct, you can only really do "hybrid" isos which show up like usb drives | 19:41 |
SamYaple | im not entirely sure about this since its been a few years since i tried this with openstack | 19:41 |
SamYaple | and its possible with glance metadata tags and what not you can make it connect as an iso vs hdd | 19:41 |
SamYaple | either way, its a huge PITA | 19:42 |
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FL1SK | oh ok SamYaple | 19:42 |
SamYaple | if you _must_ install from iso FL1SK, you also require cinder | 19:43 |
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SamYaple | since you boot from iso, and need a persistant disk to install to. thats the olny option | 19:43 |
FL1SK | right i got that much | 19:43 |
FL1SK | Thanks SamYaple -- I actually have all your specifying with the metatag in glance | 19:44 |
FL1SK | the problem is with the boot | 19:44 |
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umbSublime | welp I got a way to do it with some bash nested for loops and some mysql queries in cinder db using both tables volume and volume_attachment | 19:46 |
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SamYaple | FL1SK: without having the issue in front of me, i havent had an EDD problem in many years | 19:57 |
SamYaple | try updating qemu adn seabios? | 19:57 |
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FL1SK | ok SamYaple that could be the problem | 19:58 |
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FL1SK | thats why we have it | 19:58 |
FL1SK | there in lies the difference | 19:58 |
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FL1SK | openstack KVM uses qemu adm seabios and KVM Host systems use something entirely diff. | 19:59 |
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FL1SK | Where do i get seabios updates | 19:59 |
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SamYaple | FL1SK: im not sure what you said is accurate | 19:59 |
financeMann | How do i get windows to show up in Spice? I’m just seeing a black screen and it says “Unimplemented function 108(Inval All Palettes) [ further notices suppressed ] | 19:59 |
financeMann | Unimplemented function 102(Display Mark) [ further notices suppressed ]” | 19:59 |
SamYaple | FL1SK: but the 'seabios' package is just a package | 19:59 |
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financeMann | this works fine with centos | 19:59 |
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SamYaple | financeMann: install the virtio drivers in the windows instance | 20:00 |
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SamYaple | financeMann: also, do note that windows + spice sucks | 20:00 |
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SamYaple | financeMann: use vnc | 20:00 |
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financeMann | you mean setup a vnc server on my windows instance? or vnc will just work in console if i install virtio drivers in windows image? | 20:02 |
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FL1SK | SamYaple: Seabios in my case isn't even installed so i guess its not using seabios at all | 20:04 |
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FL1SK | so if not then what would it use for a bios.. nothing?? | 20:04 |
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SamYaple | whats your host distro and version qemu | 20:04 |
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FL1SK | nevermind.. SamYaple i was looking on the wrong machine seabios is installed | 20:07 |
FL1SK | Host distro is SLES 12 SP2 with qemu seabios version 1.9.1 | 20:08 |
FL1SK | which is a year old | 20:08 |
FL1SK | not that old | 20:08 |
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CorvetteZR1 | hello. i'm working on a new deployment of ocata, got controller and compute nodes up. trying to provision an instance and it's stuck in scheduling | 20:08 |
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CorvetteZR1 | using ubuntu 16.04 and followed the guide | 20:09 |
SamYaple | FL1SK: yea that was my last stab. looks good. i dont really know what else to point you at | 20:09 |
SamYaple | CorvetteZR1: you need to check logs. both nova-scheduler and nova-compute | 20:09 |
SamYaple | there is an error/stacktrace somewhere | 20:09 |
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FL1SK | ok thanks SamYaple - I'll keep digging on this EDD issue | 20:10 |
FL1SK | meanwhile I'm creating this same image as a qcow2 format instead of ISO | 20:10 |
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CorvetteZR1 | SamYaple, i see this in nova-compute.log | 20:11 |
CorvetteZR1 | WARNING nova.scheduler.client.report [req-dc3c3161-1d92-455a-8baf-4c65bd3fdedf - - - - -] No authentication information found for placement API. Placement is optional in Newton, but required in Ocata. Please enable the placement service before upgrading. | 20:11 |
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SamYaple | CorvetteZR1: you are running a beta release? | 20:13 |
CorvetteZR1 | no, it's ocata...is ocata beta? | 20:13 |
SamYaple | i suggest you wait until Ocata is tagged and the install guide comes out for it | 20:13 |
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SamYaple | Ocata has not been released | 20:13 |
CorvetteZR1 | oh...i thought it was :) | 20:13 |
SamYaple | its 2-3 weeks out for the tagging | 20:14 |
SamYaple | just use newton and you wont have these issues | 20:14 |
CorvetteZR1 | No cells are configured, unable to list instances | 20:14 |
CorvetteZR1 | i assume cells v2 setup is required now? | 20:14 |
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SamYaple | CorvetteZR1: yes. you realyl should wait for the install guide (or dig into the release notes and other specs) | 20:17 |
SamYaple | there are quite a few changes around nova thats oging to make this hard to figure out without that info | 20:17 |
CorvetteZR1 | when i tried adding the newton repo in xenial, it told me it's for trusty only | 20:18 |
financeMann | To install the virtio drivers on windows do I just have to run the QEMU guest agent exe? | 20:18 |
financeMann | on the iso | 20:18 |
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SamYaple | financeMann: https://fedorapeople.org/groups/virt/virtio-win/direct-downloads/stable-virtio/virtio-win.iso | 20:19 |
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SamYaple | financeMann: mind you, i dont think the windows spice driver is signed.... | 20:20 |
financeMann | i got that iso but what do i run within it | 20:20 |
financeMann | any idea | 20:20 |
financeMann | im only seeing a QEMU exe | 20:20 |
financeMann | agent | 20:20 |
SamYaple | there are drivers in there | 20:20 |
SamYaple | the driver you want is QXL | 20:20 |
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financeMann | gotcha prolly amd64 win7 | 20:21 |
financeMann | qxl | 20:21 |
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XModeMunx | Anything obvious to a n00b as to why I'm getting connection refused to my freshly downloaded debian cloud image? Security/firewall seems correct, and i can ping it, and I have added keys. | 20:55 |
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rewbycraft | A) make sure you can ping it | 20:57 |
rewbycraft | B) Check if you setup security groups right | 20:57 |
rewbycraft | I forgot security groups one too many times | 20:57 |
SamYaple | XModeMunx: you have to allow ssh (or allow all things) | 20:58 |
SamYaple | XModeMunx: long and short, its always security groups | 20:58 |
SamYaple | except when its not | 20:58 |
XModeMunx | hah. | 20:58 |
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XModeMunx | There a hat I can get for that? | 20:58 |
rewbycraft | It's always either a derp with your network setup or secgrps | 20:59 |
rewbycraft | So yep. I want that on a shirt too | 20:59 |
rewbycraft | Or on a hat | 20:59 |
SamYaple | XModeMunx: yea. it says "Make OpenStack Great Again" | 20:59 |
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XModeMunx | hehe. The debian images say "The default login account for this image is "debian". It is in this account that cloud-init will write the public key to allow ssh logins." | 21:00 |
rewbycraft | Yeah? There's a bunch of images that do that | 21:00 |
SamYaple | ssh debian@<ip> -i ~/.ssh/yourkey | 21:00 |
rewbycraft | I think the ubuntu ones also do that | 21:00 |
SamYaple | yea. most images don't do password injection | 21:00 |
XModeMunx | I tried that. Getting "Connection refused" as opposed to any errors to logins | 21:00 |
SamYaple | its not a commonly used thing these days | 21:00 |
rewbycraft | Nah. Doesn't work well with KVM | 21:00 |
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SamYaple | XModeMunx: thats likely security group | 21:01 |
rewbycraft | I've heard of some people using it with Xen | 21:01 |
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XModeMunx | SamYaple: Thanks. Will look closer to the rules other than 0.0.0.0/0 22 accept ;-) | 21:01 |
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SamYaple | rewbycraft: it works great in KVM. but it doesnt work on virtually all shared storage backends. and it requires modifying the image (qcow2 or otherwise) and its bad | 21:01 |
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SamYaple | XModeMunx: ingress and egress! | 21:01 |
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rewbycraft | SamYaple: Aah. I've never bothered with the local storage, only ever use shared (cinder) storage because it's easier to backup. | 21:02 |
XModeMunx | SamYaple: Aha, that could well be the bugger. | 21:02 |
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XModeMunx | EgressIPv4AnyAny0.0.0.0/0 | 21:03 |
XModeMunx | IngressIPv4TCP22 (SSH)0.0.0.0/0 | 21:03 |
SamYaple | XModeMunx: technically only ingress is needed. but i like to make allow all all all rules. because i hate security grups | 21:03 |
XModeMunx | Would expect these rules to make it work | 21:03 |
SamYaple | yes | 21:03 |
SamYaple | rewbycraft: ceph all the way! ceph all the things! | 21:04 |
rewbycraft | SamYaple: I like sec groups for some stuff. I use them (and a slightly hackish script) to enforce "internet-only" access on some networks | 21:04 |
rewbycraft | Mostly for the vms that get spun up and down for my CI system | 21:04 |
rewbycraft | Those have no business with incoming connections | 21:04 |
rewbycraft | Also, I used to use ceph. Don't anymore | 21:05 |
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SamYaple | yea secgroups are good. little firewalls outside each instance. but they can be annoying. for testing i always allow all | 21:05 |
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rewbycraft | As a student who just loves experimenting with stuff and learning about things, I can't afford SSDs in my servers. So ceph doesn't work well for me | 21:05 |
rewbycraft | I tend to just use LVM | 21:05 |
rewbycraft | With raid, of course | 21:06 |
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rewbycraft | (I've been running OpenStack since icehouse yet I've never done a professional deployment.) | 21:06 |
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SamYaple | perforamnce-wise, configured correctly, ceph beats out lvm for workloads when its distributed properly given the same hardware | 21:06 |
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rewbycraft | My problem with ceph is the journal | 21:07 |
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rewbycraft | My disks aren't that fast, so I have had a lot of disk thrashing issues with it | 21:07 |
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rewbycraft | That said, could be my inexperience | 21:07 |
rewbycraft | Last time I checked ceph's docs were very... intense | 21:07 |
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irtermite | rewbycraft: ssd is not a requirement of ceph... just suggested to get better performance; as with anything storage related | 21:07 |
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rewbycraft | I know it's not a requirement, but I've found that keeping the journal on my spinning rust degrades performance down to 10MB/s | 21:08 |
rewbycraft | With a lot of disk thrashing | 21:08 |
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rewbycraft | Whereas with LVM it'll happily do 100MB/s | 21:08 |
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rewbycraft | Again, it's probably a misconfig on my end | 21:09 |
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rewbycraft | I've just found LVM2 to be easier to work with and a lot less resource intensive | 21:10 |
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rewbycraft | I do miss the thin provisioning though | 21:10 |
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rewbycraft | Being able to just have a vm disk ready in a second was nice | 21:10 |
irtermite | rewbycraft: sure... but if cost is an issue, you could reduce it a bit by putting the journal on separate drives from the storage | 21:10 |
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rewbycraft | Hm. True | 21:10 |
rewbycraft | I could see if I could scrounge up some 80G drives from the usual sources. | 21:11 |
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irtermite | instead of all drives ssd... use ssd or even dedicated spinning disk for the journal. that would offload your journaling workload and should limit the thrashing | 21:11 |
rewbycraft | That said, the storage machine's out of free disk bays. | 21:12 |
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rewbycraft | I might give it a shit | 21:12 |
rewbycraft | *shot | 21:12 |
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irtermite | typical config would be 2x ssd journals and the rest spinning | 21:12 |
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rewbycraft | (It's 10pm, I'm not 100% on my typing at the moment) | 21:12 |
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irtermite | hahaha the prior works too. ;) | 21:12 |
rewbycraft | True | 21:12 |
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rewbycraft | I don't actually have any SSDs except for the one in my laptop. | 21:13 |
rewbycraft | I might give ceph another try. I'll have to think it over | 21:13 |
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irtermite | just try it with two RAID0 spinning disks for journal and the rest storage then. better than the alternative | 21:14 |
rewbycraft | Mostly in the way of planning disk allocation. My main storage node has 6 bays. 2 of which are for raid1 root filesystem and 3 are in use by 3x 2TB drives in RAID5 | 21:14 |
irtermite | thoughts SamYaple? | 21:14 |
rewbycraft | So I could try to find an 80G drive and shove the journal on it | 21:14 |
rewbycraft | I have a spare somewhere | 21:14 |
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irtermite | good luck | 21:15 |
rewbycraft | I might give it a try. Depends on whether I can find another drive | 21:15 |
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rewbycraft | I could shove the rootfs onto a single 40G drive and use the raid1 for journal | 21:15 |
rewbycraft | I have the main OS in central config management anyway | 21:16 |
irtermite | again, even if you don't find an ssd, just try it with a dedicated spinning disk, so it is ONLY journaling | 21:16 |
rewbycraft | Yeah, fair enough | 21:16 |
rewbycraft | I'll give that a try I think | 21:16 |
rewbycraft | I do quite like the thin provisioning | 21:16 |
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irtermite | let me know how it goes. curious | 21:16 |
rewbycraft | Not at home at the moment, where the servers are | 21:17 |
irtermite | no rush | 21:17 |
rewbycraft | I'm rebuilding that cluster anyway, so no harm experimenting | 21:17 |
irtermite | the bouncer is always on... i'll see the response whenever | 21:17 |
rewbycraft | Same here | 21:17 |
rewbycraft | I'm actually considering shoving many of the services into docker. That would make upgrades a lot easier | 21:17 |
rewbycraft | The various *-api and *-conductor, etc services seem a good fit for that kind of model | 21:18 |
rewbycraft | Got any input on that? | 21:19 |
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brad[] | Been considering the same thing. | 21:19 |
irtermite | that's how OSA is done. services are all in containers | 21:19 |
rewbycraft | (Not sure if that's considered off topic here) | 21:19 |
rewbycraft | I have no idea what OSA is | 21:20 |
irtermite | OpenStack Ansible | 21:20 |
rewbycraft | Ah | 21:20 |
brad[] | I'm not too keen on looking at kolla containers or openstack-ansible (OSA) and having that whole thing stampede over my current deploy. | 21:20 |
rewbycraft | ^ | 21:20 |
brad[] | But the individual services look easy enough to containerize | 21:20 |
rewbycraft | Yeah, that's my plan too | 21:20 |
rewbycraft | Still working out how to container the volume, openvswitch-agent and nova-compute services | 21:21 |
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brad[] | nod. | 21:21 |
rewbycraft | But besides those, most of it is just shuffling data around internally or serving http apis | 21:21 |
brad[] | My assumption there is they'd be privileged and have host namespaces | 21:21 |
irtermite | Look through https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible for ideas | 21:21 |
rewbycraft | All of which are very easy in the docker model | 21:21 |
rewbycraft | Good idea actually. | 21:21 |
irtermite | assume it wouldn't be hard to swap out the container solution | 21:21 |
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rewbycraft | could be. | 21:22 |
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rewbycraft | I am definately investigating | 21:22 |
irtermite | pretty sure the #kolla community already solved your questions brad[] | 21:22 |
irtermite | give it a look | 21:23 |
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rewbycraft | They probably did. I've been reading through the docs for that project and through the code | 21:23 |
rewbycraft | I'm not entirely keen on the deployment design they came up with | 21:23 |
SamYaple | irtermite recommending OSA. color me suprised | 21:23 |
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SamYaple | rewbycraft: you want "bluestore" in ceph | 21:23 |
irtermite | you have LXC with OSA. You have Kolla. And I am sure there is a Docker based project out there, just not sure. | 21:23 |
irtermite | hahaha SamYaple | 21:23 |
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irtermite | of course I am, but I also offer options. ;) | 21:24 |
rewbycraft | kolla is docker, irtermite | 21:24 |
brad[] | irtermite: Deploying over an existing dpeloy? | 21:24 |
SamYaple | rewbycraft: bluestore removes the doublewrite penalty | 21:24 |
SamYaple | brad[]: can be done, can't be done easily | 21:24 |
rewbycraft | SamYaple: Oh that's definately interesting. | 21:24 |
SamYaple | no project out there does this currently (at least not live) | 21:24 |
brad[] | yeah that's what scares me | 21:24 |
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SamYaple | at one point i wrote a migration to OSA from baremetal, but it was internal use only. and we didnt end up using it | 21:25 |
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irtermite | welcome to migration land | 21:25 |
financeMann | SamYaple I installed the drivers and deployed the instance, i’m now seeing anything on the SPICE console for the windows instance | 21:25 |
financeMann | all black | 21:25 |
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SamYaple | financeMann: what can i say, i dont recommend using spice with windows | 21:25 |
rewbycraft | I don't particularly trust OSA or kolla. Not that I don't think people did a good job. But because I am of the opinion that if I'm using something as "core infrastructure" I better know exactly how it's setup and how it works | 21:25 |
SamYaple | rewbycraft: bluestore is best store | 21:25 |
irtermite | noVNC, right SamYaple | 21:25 |
irtermite | ? | 21:25 |
brad[] | rewbycraft: same | 21:25 |
SamYaple | irtermite: correct | 21:25 |
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SamYaple | well as someone how has worked and used OSA and Kolla heavily, screw you too rewbycraft and brad[] | 21:26 |
brad[] | haha | 21:26 |
irtermite | hah | 21:26 |
rewbycraft | Ha | 21:26 |
irtermite | rewbycraft: read the docs then... | 21:26 |
irtermite | ;) | 21:26 |
rewbycraft | Nothing against you or your work SamYaple. | 21:26 |
SamYaple | ;) | 21:26 |
rewbycraft | I just prefer writing my own configs | 21:26 |
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SamYaple | rewbycraft: you can do that! | 21:26 |
SamYaple | in both kolla and OSA | 21:26 |
irtermite | or poke cloudnull... I'm sure he will *love* to set you straight. *maniacal laughter* | 21:27 |
rewbycraft | I never said I'm not using some of the code for those projects. | 21:27 |
brad[] | Our cloud is relatively simplistic. 4 external networks, a few dozen projects, nothing terribly special. | 21:27 |
rewbycraft | I'm just doing my own deployment scripts and config | 21:27 |
brad[] | If it could be ported into OSA or kolla that'd be an interesting long-term goal | 21:27 |
brad[] | rewbycraft: what are you using? bash scripts? | 21:28 |
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rewbycraft | SaltStack | 21:28 |
brad[] | I have a set of bash scripts and a start on some ansible playbooks | 21:28 |
brad[] | ah | 21:28 |
brad[] | hrm | 21:28 |
rewbycraft | All of my infra is under it's control | 21:28 |
rewbycraft | So I'd rather not introduce ansible into that mix | 21:28 |
brad[] | nod | 21:28 |
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rewbycraft | I like having a central, unified config system. Especially one I know decently well | 21:29 |
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brad[] | nod. | 21:29 |
CorvetteZR1 | i have a nova_api database, but i keep getting this error when trying to add cell: | 21:29 |
CorvetteZR1 | ERROR: could not access cell mapping database - has api db been created? | 21:29 |
financeMann | SamYaple, what do you recommend I set nova_console to, novnc? | 21:29 |
SamYaple | financeMann: yes | 21:29 |
CorvetteZR1 | following this guide. do i need to run something else? https://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/cells.html#cells-v2 | 21:30 |
brad[] | CorvetteZR1: Have you run api_db sync and db sync? | 21:30 |
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CorvetteZR1 | brad[], just db sync ... not api_db | 21:30 |
SamYaple | brad[]: rewbycraft its funny. ive worked on and contributed to 4 openstack deployment projects now (7 if you count single commits) and yet at my house i deploy it by hand on all of my servers | 21:30 |
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brad[] | CorvetteZR1: run api_db sync and then db sync | 21:30 |
SamYaple | order doesnt matter, but yes CorvetteZR1 there are two _different_ databases | 21:30 |
rewbycraft | SamYaple: There's some irony there. Lots of it. | 21:30 |
SamYaple | coincidence is not irony! | 21:31 |
brad[] | SamYaple: good way to stay familiar though. Maintaining a hands-on version without abstractions in the way | 21:31 |
CorvetteZR1 | yea, i see what i did wrong here, thanks brad[] :) | 21:31 |
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rewbycraft | I'm usually one to prefer manual deployents over automatic ones. Or at least manually scripted deploments | 21:32 |
rewbycraft | I actually deploy my multi-pop network using saltstack too | 21:32 |
rewbycraft | So I know exactly which router is configured how | 21:32 |
rewbycraft | And that's the plan for this cluster too | 21:33 |
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CorvetteZR1 | brad[], SamYaple , i ran both syncs, still same error | 21:33 |
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brad[] | is this a fresh setup or an upgrade | 21:33 |
brad[] | actually I'm out of my depth. :-) I haven't worked with cellsv<anything> | 21:34 |
XModeMunx | rewbycraft: I'm going saltstack route too | 21:34 |
rewbycraft | Ah nice | 21:34 |
irtermite | this is the most activity I have seen in this chan for some time now. refreshing | 21:34 |
CorvetteZR1 | it's fresh...but there is a compute node | 21:34 |
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SamYaple | CorvetteZR1: did you configure both of your database in the config? | 21:34 |
CorvetteZR1 | but can't spin up instances...so yea, fresh :) | 21:34 |
rewbycraft | irtermite: I tend to be hard to shut up when I start talking | 21:34 |
CorvetteZR1 | SamYaple, yes | 21:35 |
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SamYaple | CorvetteZR1: this is newton? | 21:35 |
CorvetteZR1 | SamYaple, no, it's ocata | 21:36 |
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SamYaple | you got other databases and configurations you need to do then | 21:37 |
brad[] | good lord really | 21:37 |
brad[] | lmao | 21:37 |
rewbycraft | SamYaple: I read some stuff about bluestore. If I'm correct, I wouldn't need to separate journal and data onto separate disks? If so, that is really attractive to me. | 21:38 |
CorvetteZR1 | ah, yes...i need to create the cell0 db | 21:38 |
SamYaple | rewbycraft: its in the latest release (Kraken), but its marked experimental | 21:38 |
SamYaple | its perfect for dev | 21:38 |
rewbycraft | That's what I've got backups for. ;) | 21:38 |
SamYaple | it will be stable in Luminous i believe | 21:38 |
brad[] | We're still using hammer, we need to get that update done. | 21:38 |
irtermite | heh, right on rewbycraft... nothing wrong with being excited about something you are passionate about | 21:39 |
rewbycraft | irtermite: If I ever get too noisy in here, yell at me to shut up. | 21:39 |
SamYaple | brad[]: upgrade to latest hammer. then to latest jewel. then to kraken | 21:39 |
irtermite | why rewbycraft? all I have to do is not look at the chan. problem solved | 21:40 |
rewbycraft | I've had people get angry that I cause too much backlog on their clients | 21:40 |
SamYaple | what would you expect from an infrared terminte | 21:40 |
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rewbycraft | So I'm just giving everyone a blank check to yell at me to shut up. | 21:40 |
irtermite | well there's there problem right there... logging large chans is... um... | 21:41 |
irtermite | you know it isn't infrared SamYaple... don't be a jerkface. | 21:41 |
irtermite | there's their* | 21:41 |
brad[] | SamYaple: Hm. Good to know. Have you made the switch from root -> ceph user? | 21:41 |
brad[] | I'm also curious as to whether the packages pivot from sysvinit to systemd units or if I'll need to do that | 21:42 |
brad[] | seems like ceph.target + udev should cover it though | 21:42 |
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SamYaple | brad[]: yea | 21:42 |
SamYaple | brad[]: packages are really tested | 21:43 |
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SamYaple | youll want to move to 16.04 ubuntu or whatever the latest distro you are running is | 21:43 |
SamYaple | _first_ | 21:43 |
brad[] | nod | 21:43 |
SamYaple | or just take downtime. its not awful | 21:43 |
SamYaple | you cant really lose data | 21:43 |
brad[] | lol | 21:44 |
brad[] | I can lose data, I'm amazing at losing data | 21:44 |
SamYaple | you have to be trying to lose data with ceph | 21:44 |
SamYaple | its hard to accidentally lose data | 21:44 |
brad[] | aye true | 21:44 |
rewbycraft | Yeah. My experience too | 21:44 |
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rewbycraft | Hm. Ceph+Bluestore and openstack in docker. That's gonna be a fun deployment. | 21:48 |
SamYaple | rewbycraft: im working on openstack on kubernetes at the moment | 21:48 |
rewbycraft | If anyone cares, I can keep them updated as I go. That said, won't have time to actually deploy anything for at least a few weeks. Got a lot of reports to write at the moment. | 21:48 |
rewbycraft | ah cool | 21:49 |
brad[] | SamYaple: within kolla? | 21:49 |
SamYaple | brad[]: nah. ive moved on from kolla mostly. #openstack-helm is the project im working on | 21:49 |
XModeMunx | Anyone fancy d/l http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/openstack/current/debian-8.7.2-20170301-openstack-amd64.qcow2 | 21:49 |
SamYaple | now i just do maintenance type stuff in kolla when people ping me | 21:49 |
XModeMunx | and seeing if you can ssh to it? | 21:49 |
brad[] | SamYaple: interesting | 21:49 |
XModeMunx | It just refuses. My cirros test ssh connection seems to work | 21:50 |
brad[] | SamYaple: the helm project is more for kube operators wanting to deploy it I take it? | 21:50 |
SamYaple | brad[]: helm is a bit-o-templating and version management ontop of the kubeadm yaml files things | 21:50 |
rewbycraft | That's cool tough | 21:51 |
rewbycraft | *though | 21:51 |
SamYaple | brad[]: makes things reuasable, but once its deploy you can completely remove helm and kubernetes would have no clue it was deploy with helm | 21:51 |
brad[] | Hmm. Nice. | 21:51 |
rewbycraft | That's neat | 21:51 |
rewbycraft | If I ever deploy at "scale" I do intend to look into those kinds of deployment techniques | 21:51 |
SamYaple | this way i can run `helm install keystone` 10 times, and get 10 different keystones that dont conflict | 21:52 |
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rewbycraft | But right now, my scale is about 5 servers | 21:52 |
rewbycraft | With only two of them usable as VM nodes | 21:52 |
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SamYaple | rewbycraft: my home lab is 3 nodes for compute. then i run openstack in clusters of openstack on those three nodes to test massively distributed | 21:52 |
brad[] | that's one thing I'd love to see in OpenStack itself - the ability to define infrastructure, projects and applications as manifests, there'd be no need to be particularly careful about one's pet openstack deploy at that point, other than the time it would take to reconstruct it from the manifest files. | 21:52 |
rewbycraft | Dang. That's pretty cool. | 21:53 |
brad[] | Heat but more than heat. | 21:53 |
SamYaple | heat but good | 21:53 |
rewbycraft | Hah | 21:53 |
SamYaple | im being too critical arent I? | 21:53 |
SamYaple | heat but working | 21:53 |
brad[] | I don't think so :P | 21:53 |
rewbycraft | Meh, never really cared for heat | 21:53 |
rewbycraft | It just feels like a "me too" thing | 21:53 |
CorvetteZR1 | i created the nova_cell0 db, but when i run nova-manage cell_v2 map_cell0, it runs without error but does not populate the database | 21:53 |
CorvetteZR1 | i did run api db sync | 21:54 |
CorvetteZR1 | and db sync | 21:54 |
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SamYaple | CorvetteZR1: you need minimum 2 cell dbs. cell0 is the "blackhole this doesnt match a cell" cell | 21:54 |
SamYaple | man you _really_ want to run ocata dont you | 21:54 |
CorvetteZR1 | oh, wait! progress | 21:54 |
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brad[] | is this really required for ocata | 21:55 |
CorvetteZR1 | db sync actualyl gave me output | 21:55 |
CorvetteZR1 | SamYaple, yea, i do :D | 21:55 |
SamYaple | brad[]: yea | 21:55 |
SamYaple | CorvetteZR1: fair enough. moment | 21:55 |
XModeMunx | aha. So, this is needed to get the key, but I have the following error: url_helper.py[WARNING]: Calling 'http://169.254.169.254/2009-04-04/meta-data/instance-id' failed [0/120s] | 21:55 |
financeMann | SamYaple It says the Site Cannot be reached when I try to console vnc to a windows machine -> http://imgur.com/a/jwYOr | 21:55 |
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brad[] | the install docs don't say a word about cell* databases | 21:55 |
Shadow07 | hello | 21:55 |
financeMann | the logs look good SamYaple but maybe you can see an issue with my config | 21:55 |
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Shadow07 | can somebody help me getting ceilometer metrics stored in gnocchi to show correctly in grafana? | 21:56 |
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Shadow07 | i have problems building the query correctly it seems | 21:56 |
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SamYaple | CorvetteZR1: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/420198/12/doc/source/cells.rst | 21:57 |
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CorvetteZR1 | ok, so down to the last step, when i run nova-manager cell_v2 discover_hosts, it's trying to connect to database nova/nova | 21:57 |
SamYaple | CorvetteZR1: ive not done this manually before. i just fixed deploy tools that needed to do it | 21:58 |
SamYaple | and that doc is right... so go from there | 21:58 |
SamYaple | maybe wipe the db if you think you messed up | 21:58 |
SamYaple | financeMann: you can't switch the vnc/spice driver on the fly. did you start a new instances after switching to vnc? | 21:59 |
financeMann | no i can kill the instance and create a enw one | 21:59 |
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rewbycraft | Anyway, SamYaple, irtermite, brad[], it was fun talking to you guys. I need to get some shut-eye though. So I wish you guys/gals a good day! | 22:03 |
irtermite | peace rewbycraft | 22:03 |
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CorvetteZR1 | SamYaple, any idea why it's trying to connect to nova/nova? | 22:05 |
CorvetteZR1 | OperationalError: (pymysql.err.OperationalError) (1044, u"Access denied for user 'nova'@'%' to database 'nova/nova'") | 22:05 |
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SamYaple | CorvetteZR1: config error? | 22:06 |
CorvetteZR1 | SamYaple, that's the last step, nova-manager cell_v2 discover_hosts | 22:06 |
SamYaple | rewbycraft: bai | 22:06 |
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CorvetteZR1 | hmmm | 22:06 |
XModeMunx | Can anyone explain how the cloud_init process works to be able to gather the keys horizon is to offer? | 22:07 |
XModeMunx | I mean, I'm using a flat network to my local network, so how would it expect to get the keys to install? Or will it not? :-/ | 22:07 |
XModeMunx | I'll roll my own if needs be. | 22:07 |
CorvetteZR1 | SamYaple, found it :( | 22:08 |
CorvetteZR1 | i mean :) | 22:08 |
SamYaple | config file? | 22:08 |
financeMann | SamYaple, totaly new instance and same issue, site cant be reached | 22:08 |
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financeMann | “[req-9e6b2216-df23-4b17-8926-b9d2a217d10b e5b9d47d1b7b423989cff95c6d879eaf 024d5a7f1a974e30a0bb5cf3d64965c3 - default default] HTTP exception thrown: Unavailable console type novnc.” | 22:14 |
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peter-os | Hi all. I just upgraded from Mitaka to Newton and I'm having a problem with nova. I can't start instances. Everything else seems to be fine. The only error in the logs I can see is Error while refreshing network cache......timed out waiting for message ID... RabbitMQ is running, and everything else seems to work. I'd greatly appreciate any suggestions on what to look at next. | 22:16 |
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CorvetteZR1 | SamYaple, ok, so i went through that guide, and nova-manager cell_v2 discover_hosts ran successfully | 22:24 |
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CorvetteZR1 | but now horizon says unable to retrieve intances and i get an error if i try to create an instance | 22:24 |
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CorvetteZR1 | i restarted nova-compute and it shows up in the list when i run hypervisor-list | 22:29 |
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CorvetteZR1 | status: error :( | 22:32 |
XModeMunx | nn all, thanks for today. | 22:33 |
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CorvetteZR1 | it can't find flavors | 22:41 |
CorvetteZR1 | i create 2 different ones, and it can't find either of them | 22:41 |
peter-os | Found it: was missing use_neutron = True in nova.conf :( | 22:41 |
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