Wednesday, 2017-03-01

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masberubuntu images are .img, which option should I choose on horizon if I want to import an ubuntu image?00:24
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mguineymasber: have you tried using the commands listed here?
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masbermguiney, I used horizon00:26
masberthe thing is that I uploaded the iamge as wcaw200:27
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masberbut the instance does not boot00:28
masberit says "Booting from hard disk..."00:28
masberso I assume I am uploading the image in the right way00:28
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eggnogsc_Did you mean qcow200:29
masbereggnogsc_, yes qcow200:29
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eggnogsc_Did you verify the md5 for the image?00:30
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eggnogsc_Could be corrupt image00:31
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masbereggnogsc_, I downloaded the image twice00:32
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masberI am trying now with ubuntu16.0400:32
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eGGnogSCI would confirm the checksum first00:32
masberthe thing is that ubuntu16.10 image is just 30MB while 16.04 is 1Gigs00:33
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eGGnogSCThen I would check your disk type. You may need to pass some metadata to force an ide or scsi drive type depending on what the image was built in00:33
masbersorry ubuntu 16.10 is just 300Megs00:33
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masberI am trying now with 16.0400:34
eGGnogSCDo a md5 <path/to/image> after you download00:36
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eGGnogSCCompare to
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eGGnogSCassuming you are pulling the cloud image that is00:37
eGGnogSCWhich can be pulled from
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masbereggmaster, yep I am using that link00:47
masberok I will do md5 after download00:47
masberalso, do you know how to migrate an instance to another openstack environment?00:48
masberI tried following this doc -->
masberbut the image/snapshot created by nova image-create has size 000:49
masberwhich is quite strange00:50
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h0l0l0lhi all, looking at ocata neutron with linuxbridge agent for self service networks.. getting this error when trying to start the linuxbridge-agent on my controller: can't add tapb6b4b87a-93 to bridge ens3: Operation not supported04:00
h0l0l0lshould linuxbridge be able to add a tap to a physical interface?04:00
h0l0l0lor does it not work like this...?04:00
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masberh0l0l0l, I am not sure if this will help you, but have you seen this?
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h0l0l0lmasber: sure i've seen this.. i'll take a look again though :)04:04
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masberh0l0l0l, according to that document tap devices are connected to virtual nics04:05
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h0l0l0lmasber, well one obvious difference in that and what i'm doing is i'm running linuxbridge mechanism instead of openvswitch04:07
masberthe physical interface are connected to a bridge (br-tun, br-int, br-ext) to to a tap device, again I am not an expert, just trying to through some ideas04:08
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h0l0l0lmasber, sure -- thanks .. the issue here is that on the neutron server i should be getting a linuxbridge created where the provider network port is tapped to the physical network04:10
h0l0l0li see it trying in the neutron-linuxbridge agent log, but failing with the error i mentioned04:10
h0l0l0lit's trying to run " brctl addif ens3 tapb6b4b87a-93 ".. the tap device exists, and ens3 is unnumbered04:11
h0l0l0lbut what i'm wondering is if i shouldn't be trying to bridge to a physical interface directly in this fasion04:11
masberhum... hopefully someone here may hel[04:11
masberI am trying to create a server from an image but I am getting this message "Volume is smaller than the minimum size specified in image metadata. Volume size is 10737418240 bytes, minimum size is 42949672960 bytes."04:11
masberI tried to edit the image like this --> openstack image set --property min_disk=5 2a9e096f-c9df-4ac6-85fe-6a5d714758d704:12
h0l0l0lwhat command are you using to launch?04:12
masberbut it says "Unable to set 'min_disk' to '5'04:12
masberthis is the command "openstack server create --image 2a9e096f-c9df-4ac6-85fe-6a5d714758d7 --flavor 4 test"04:12
h0l0l0lwhat's flavor 4 look like? standard?04:13
masberflavor 4 is m1.large04:13
h0l0l0lcan you do 'openstack image show 2a9e096f-c9df-4ac6-85fe-6a5d714758d7'04:14
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h0l0l0lsince that's a snapshot of another image which was booted from a 10G volume... i'm not sure you can make it smaller than that04:17
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h0l0l0lyou can try to set mn size to 1004:17
h0l0l0lor 1104:17
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masberI tried to edit the image min_disk value to 10 or 20 but apparently I am not allowed to do that04:19
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h0l0l0lyeah you'll need admin credentials to edit the image metadata then04:20
h0l0l0li guess04:20
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masberim trying as admin04:21
h0l0l0lwhat's the result now? same as before?04:21
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h0l0l0lcan you get some info on this snapshot id ed190eb0-63aa-4114-b6c7-dfedd02b7945 ?04:22
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h0l0l0leesh, yeah this looks a bit hairy.. i'm not much of a snapshot user, but you can see how this rabbit hole goes deeper. i think this volume_size 10 and min_disk 40 in the volume_image_metadata for that guy's causing some pain for you04:28
h0l0l0lyou've got another snapshot id, and image id now to look at04:28
h0l0l0lsorry... maybe this helps at least give you some idea of the root cause.. i'm not going to be much help in resolution04:29
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Amit82Hi All,04:33
Amit82I have installed Openstack using Openstack-Ansible 14.0.804:33
Amit82while launching instance, I am facing this error: "No valid host was found. There are not enough hosts available."04:33
Amit82systemctl status neutron-linuxbridge-agent.service is giving this:
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Amit82eutron logs on compute node is showing this:
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Amit82Any pointers that what can be the issue04:34
cyberworm54Interface eth12 for physical network flat does not exist04:34
cyberworm54Are you using vxlans?04:34
h0l0l0lAmit82: what does 'ip dev show eth12' show on your compute node?04:35
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h0l0l0lAmit82: also you'll need to look at the logs for neutron-linuxbridge-agent on your controller to see why it's failing to start04:36
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h0l0l0lscratch that last statement04:36
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Amit82"ip addr show dev eth12" says "Device "eth12" does not exist."04:38
h0l0l0lthere ya go04:38
h0l0l0lprobably shouldn't have it in your config04:38
Amit82Actually I installed it using openstack-ansible04:38
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poopcatAmit82, try that command inside the neutron_agent_container04:39
Amit82not sure why eth12 is being picked for compute node04:39
h0l0l0lmasber: i'm an idiot, i have bridge_mappings = provider:ens3 set...... probably this should be physical_interface_mappings04:42
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masberwhat is the difference between volume and image?05:47
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DesdicHi .. is there a way to create a instance as admin but in another project/for a user?07:41
Desdiccommand line that is07:42
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Desdicor maybe possible to get a access token for that user (still as admin)07:43
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Desdicanoyone online that uses the API or command line for creating instances ?08:20
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vgeorgaIm getting this error when I try to launch an Instance on horizon Error: No valid host was found. There are not enough hosts available09:25
vgeorgaAny thoughts?09:26
Desdicvgeorga: you should check your logs because it seems that you don't have any compute nodes09:26
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vgeorgaok first of all I m pretty sure that all nova operations are alive09:27
vgeorga<Desdic> Which logs are you refering to?09:28
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Desdicvgeorga: I would start with nova09:28
Desdichorizon is just apache and gives really bad logging (in my opinion)09:29
Desdicalso check the nova log on the compute nodes09:29
Desdicon your control plane what does 'openstack hypervisor list' say ?09:30
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vgeorga<Desdic>Ok alot of ERRORS but the last line says something like this09:31
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vgeorgaPortBindingFailed: Binding failed for port 601801f1-5643-4665-91a8-fbbe620f8802, please check neutron logs for more information. 2017-02-28 19:04:22.286 26044 ERROR nova.compute.manager [instance: f145d3fb-3d01-48ee-9713-0570943f75a1]09:31
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Desdicso something is wrong with neutron09:31
vgeorgaID | Hypervisor Hostname | +----+---------------------+ |  1 | compute109:32
vgeorgahypervisor is there09:32
vgeorganeutron server i suppose09:33
Desdicwhat if you run 'neutron agent-list' do you see all the services you expect ?09:33
vgeorga2017-03-01 10:46:25.096 5269 ERROR neutron.plugins.ml2.managers [req-915443f4-d120-4639-8286-6425e54d2ae9 a98e7aeaa51d4a0fb30452b3b44e09a8 14930ffdb5e347ddaea0d038b1586d54 - - -] Failed to bind port 70f6268a-04b1-4fe3-bc5e-c8095694095f on host compute1 for vnic_type normal using segments [{'segmentation_id': 63, 'physical_network': None, 'id': u'f3370eba-a40b-4207-a1c9-47ae110ce32d', 'network_type': u'vxlan'}]09:34
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vgeorgaDHCP l3 linx bridge09:37
vgeorgaMetadata X209:37
vgeorgayeah i think i got them all09:38
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vgeorga<Desdic> Any thoughts on the neutron error?09:41
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Desdicvgeorga: not besides looking into neutrol log, dmesg and nova logs :(09:45
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Desdicvgeorga: Also I'm quite new to openstack so I came here for a question but you are the only one that seems to be awake :)09:54
egonzalezDesdic, is you do ovs-vsctl show can see tunnel connection created between neutron node and compute in the right IP?09:55
egonzalezDesdic, sorry, didn't read you have linux bridges, that command won't work09:57
Desdicegonzalez: yeah I haven't tried ovs09:57
DesdicBut my test installation is working .. I'm just trying to figure out how to automate creation of instances when I don't have the users passwords09:58
Desdicor tokens for that matter09:58
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SVKERROR nova.compute.api .. No cells are configured, unable to list instances ??? Ocata10:06
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egonzalezSVK, upgrade or fresh deploy?10:07
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SVKFresh...3 Node (Contoller,Network,Compute with vxlan)10:08
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egonzalezSVK, executed nova-manage cell_v2 simple_cell_setup command?10:09
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brandor5Hello everyone: I'm trying to set up and openstack POC using juju/maas and I'm running into trouble with vlan external and provider networks... flat works fine, but vlan networks fail to pass traffic past the neutron-gateway... or just don't seem to work in the provider case... Anyone have any ideas as to what could be going wrong? the bundle I'm using is:
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XModeMunxAnoyne got 5 minutes to help a noob get a detacentre-style connection to his openstack cluster?13:58
XModeMunx(using horizon) I assume I can just set my network as external and then add in a network to match my datacentre network, and it'll just work. But attaching the physical interface doesn't seem to work, and with floating IPs I assume I wouldn't neet to define this network :-/13:58
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XModeMunxDo I need to have an openstack network bridge that is the same as my management network? Or should I be able to assign floating IPs from this range without defining the network?14:03
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XModeMunxCan anyone tell me when there are references to "physical network" - does this mean the physical interface?14:57
brad[]Where does one even start with this?14:57
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brad[]I've inserted some debugging into /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/nova/objects/ It appears to relate to the date format the code is attempting to insert15:44
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brad[]I upgraded from MariaDB 5.6 to 10.1 at the same time as Liberty -> Mitaka -> Newton. Also finding that post 5.6 enables stricter transactions which may be hanging me up?15:45
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XModeMunxI just wanna connect my stack into my network :-(16:14
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rewbycraftXModeMunx: I don't have much time, but I can give you a few pointers.16:18
rewbycraftFirst off, which networking technology are you using?16:19
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rewbycraftIf you're using nova-network, you probably should upgrade to neutron at some point. (And I never did use that particular type, so I don't know how to make that work)16:19
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rewbycraftIf you're using neutron with the ml2 plugin, make sure you've got a flat provider enabled, add a bridge for that provider, add your physical network to the bridge and create your external network with that provider (and with the correct options for usage of external routers and d16:20
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rewbycraftDHCP, if applicable)16:20
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lucidguyHmm, createing new centos 6.8 instances always end up with 7.8GB partitions?16:31
lucidguyeven though flavor is 80GB16:32
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XModeMunxrewbycraft: I am using neitron16:38
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rewbycraftXModeMunx: In that case, as I said, make sure to add a flat network provider, give that provider a bridge and create your external network properly16:39
XModeMunxrewbycraft: Awesome, so, the bridge I specify - do I create a bridge of my own, or let openstack do that with the "network" to be created?16:40
rewbycraftAh... I forget. It's been a while16:40
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rewbycraftLet me find my notes16:40
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XModeMunxSo, Do I need to connect a network to a network with router between, or will a single network with "external" be enough in horizon?16:40
XModeMunxmy current process is: create network and
XModeMunxthen I create a router between the two16:41
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XModeMunxThen I need an "external" network, So do I specify external on my network there, or do I create a new one?16:42
rewbycraftWell, as far as I'm aware neutron expects you to have at least one "external" network. These networks are basically representations of your physical network16:42
rewbycraftThese are separate networks16:42
rewbycraftYou may attach vms directly to them, if you want16:42
XModeMunxThey have to be separate networks? Oh, I can do that? Sweet.16:42
rewbycraftBut you can also have sub-networks which use routers to connect to the external network16:43
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rewbycraftLet me find the correct docs page16:43
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XModeMunxSo, I define my "datacentre" network as as a new network in horizon, and then I can attack VMs to that network.16:43
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XModeMunxSorry, my head is all over the place as i've been messing :-)16:44
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XModeMunxexternal network = representation of external network, THAT HELPS! :-D16:45
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rewbycraftXModeMunx: Basically, you usually have 2 or more "type_Drivers" in the ml2 cofnig16:45
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rewbycraftPeople tend to have at least "flat" in there for external networks16:45
XModeMunxtype_drivers = flat,vlan,vxlan16:46
rewbycraftAnd have flat_networks = something in [ml2_type_flat]16:46
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XModeMunxooh, I have this: flat_networks = provider16:47
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rewbycraftXModeMunx: Basically, you use the physical_interface_mappings to map a bridge/interface on your networking node to a nice name. You then use flat_networks=thisname to tell neutron to treat that bridge as a flat network. You can then create an external network using that "physical network"16:48
rewbycraft(And make sure to copy appropriate ip ranges for your external network)16:48
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rewbycraftSo if you have on your physical network16:48
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rewbycraftYou would make the external network in openstack use that too16:48
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rewbycraftBecause, again, it's a representation of your external network inside of openstack16:48
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rewbycraftXModeMunx: I don't have anymore time I'm afraid. I hope I was able to give you a few pointers.16:49
XModeMunxThat is perfect to get me going! I would hug you if you was nearby, thank you16:50
brad[]XModeMunx: Did you set up nova-network and you're switching to neutron at this point?16:51
XModeMunxNo, this is a fresh install.16:51
brad[]ah you are using neutron16:51
XModeMunxYes. I'm going to remove everything, and start over.16:52
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brad[]I'm around today if you have questions along the way16:54
XModeMunxSo, step 1: Create external network. (I can only assign this to a single project? ie: admin?)16:54
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brad[]Generally I've created external networks in the admin project and made them shared16:55
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brandor5XModeMunx: If you haven't take a few minutes to try and digest this page... it's extremely helpful...
brad[]it needs an associated subnet, which is going to be some or all of the actual subnet the NIC/bridge you're using is on16:56
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brandor5liberty is an old release, but the contents are still relevant16:56
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XModeMunxYes, I hit this before, and wasn't sure how much of it was still revelant.16:57
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XModeMunxGiven the switch to linux bridging in newton I guess I can apply the same mentality.16:59
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XModeMunxSo, I don't have bridge_mappings value hmmm.16:59
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XModeMunxI do have this: physical_interface_mappings = provider:ens417:00
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brad[]I'm still using OVS with newton, though I'd like to switch to linuxbridge.17:01
brad[]OVS configuration will still work, though starting freshly with linuxbridge is a better idea17:01
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XModeMunxWhy is linux bridge preferred from ovs?17:02
brad[]I find OVS fragile and complex. On many occasions it's taken our cloud offline during neutron upgrades17:02
brad[]linuxbridge is preferred for me in particular because it's vastly simpler in terms of underlying mechanics17:02
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XModeMunxfair play.17:02
brad[]For me it's as much a matter of taste as anything else. There are uses for OVS17:02
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brad[]I've also found OVS loses the fight for CPU contention, so overworked compute nodes experience network interruptions17:03
XModeMunxOkay, so - let's see what I got going. I have created the flat network, but to attach an instance to it, I need to create a subnet. So, I'll create the same subnet of the underlying network.17:03
XModeMunxbrad[]: That's all good to know!17:03
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brad[]Note that if you want to attach an instance to the flat external network all your compute nodes have to be physically connected to it17:04
brad[]which is probably obvious, though it wasn't obvious to be at the start17:05
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XModeMunxHow are they to be "physically connected"? I assumed (possibly as you did) that I can launch them into that network simply by adding them into that network via horizon17:07
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XModeMunxSorry if i'm battering you with questions, I fear if I go away and read something for half an hour i'll have to wait another 12 hours for a response :-D17:09
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XModeMunxDo I need a router with this flat network?17:10
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SamYapleXModeMunx: the majority of the community uses OVS for what its worth17:24
SamYapleand has since the beginning17:24
XModeMunxSamYaple: Good to know, thanks :-)17:24
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brad[]XModeMunx: The physical servers I mean. They'd need to be plugged into the flat network17:24
SamYaplethe "fragile OVS" thing is because OVS used to be alot worse17:24
SamYaplebut if you are ovs 2.3.1, youre fine17:24
XModeMunxSamYaple: rgr that, thanks.17:25
brad[]SamYaple: I may just be feeling bitterness. :-) Though I did get bitten by an MTU issue during the Mitaka/Newton upgrade and I had to intervene and set MTU on all bridges  ....17:25
SamYaplebrad[]: that was neutrons fault and unrelated to linuxbridge or ovs17:26
SamYapleboth had the issue17:26
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SamYapleneutrons database had '0' set for the mtu17:26
SamYapleturns out thats bad17:26
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brad[]nod :P17:27
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samarendrahi, where can i read about what actually happens when a volume is being attached to an openstack instance?17:36
samarendrai am trying to figure out the python modules involved but have only zeroed down to nova.virt.osinfo until now17:38
samarendratracing an error from the volume log17:38
SamYaplesamarendra: thats a broad question. lets narrow it down17:38
SamYapleare you talking about cinder volumes?17:38
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samarendraSamYaple: yeah17:38
SamYaplenova asks cinder for the appropriate information. that information changes per cinder backend. it could be a ceph rbd, or an iscsi path.17:39
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SamYapleonce it has that info, it builds an xml that libvirt uses to launch the instance17:39
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SamYaplelibvirt does the connecting to the volume17:39
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SamYaplenova is only involved if the volume is created successfully in cinder17:40
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samarendraSamYaple: does the same process happen when the instance is already up?17:40
SamYapleattaching it live is a bit different. nova does regenreate the xml, but it injects the attachment into qemu directly via mon socket provided by libvirt iirc17:41
SamYaplevolume needs to be up and active first17:41
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XModeMunxbrad[]: at this point I should mention i'm KVM-nesting the compute/controller nodes - same principal applies though17:42
samarendraSamYaple: ok. would this also involve getting any kind of information from inside the instance as opposed to only passing the volume info to it?17:42
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samarendrasorry for using the shabby term "passing the volume info" :)17:43
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SamYaplesamarendra: where are you seeing the error in the log, cinder or nova?17:43
samarendraSamYaple: in the cinder-volume log.17:44
SamYaplethis likely doesnt involve nova at all. at least not yet17:44
SamYapleplease pastebin the log17:44
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samarendraSamYaple: lines 1 and 217:45
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SamYaplethose are warnings. and as with most warnings, they can be safely ignored17:46
SamYapleit looks like you are trying to _detach_ not attach a volume17:46
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samarendraSamYaple: actually, both attachment and detachment operations are not working.17:48
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samarendraand the volume is not recognized by the instance's OS17:48
samarendraand this happens in only some cases.17:48
samarendrathe only difference i found between instances this works on and doesn't is the version of cloud-init17:48
samarendraapart from the distribution of course17:48
samarendraonce attached, the volume is not detected by the instance's OS. and then it cannot be detached at all as it automatically seems to "return" to in-use state.17:49
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SamYapleif you shutdown the instance you should be able to detach17:50
samarendraSamYaple: yep, can confirm that.17:50
SamYapleas for attach, these volumes dont have a filesystem on them. so nothing will see the volume until you lay down a filesystem17:51
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samarendraSamYaple: i meant the volume doesn't show up in kernel log or lsblk or /proc/partitions17:51
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SamYapletry attaching while the instance is shutdown17:52
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samarendraSamYaple: that works!17:55
samarendraso what would be stopping it from  being detected sucessfully when the instance is already running ?17:56
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brad[]So I'm having nova-manage db online_data_migrations fail due to a date formatting issue and I'm using mariadb 10.1. I was using 5.5 before this, and the 10.x upgrade came at the same time as the upgrade to M/N (it was in RDO repos). Has anyone else experienced this?17:58
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brad[]Have narrowed it down to new defaults imposed on mariadb 5.6+17:58
brad[]Have considered just reverting those but...17:58
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SamYaplesamarendra: probably a kernel issue in your instance18:00
SamYaplebrad[]: mariadb 5.6 is not a thing. was that a typo?18:00
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SamYaplesamarendra: might be a package issue? but if blkid isn't showing it im betting old kernel18:01
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samarendraSamYaple: actually one of the instances facing issue is Ubuntu 16.04 with 4.4.0-64-generic18:02
SamYaplesamarendra: old version of qemu on the host maybe?18:02
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samarendraSamYaple: centos 7 image on the same host works but the ubuntu one doesn't.18:03
samarendramy guess is it cannot figure out "the right way to pass volume info to the kernel because it doesn't detect the operating system on the instance rightly"18:04
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samarendrabased on the error log18:04
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SamYapleare you using the official cloudarchive image from ubuntu18:05
samarendrathat is why i am curious whether and what kind of info is exchanged when a volume is being attached to an instance18:05
samarendraSamYaple: yep :)18:05
SamYapledunno. im going to blame centos here because its centos and always to blame18:06
samarendrahaha :)18:06
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SamYaplei would update all the packages you can. inside and out of the vm18:06
SamYaplethen find/file a bug report with nova18:07
samarendraSamYaple: sure. will try upgrading and attaching again.18:07
brad[]SamYaple: yes sorry. 5.518:07
samarendraSamYaple: thank you for your time and the workaround :)18:08
SamYaplebrad[]: so i run mariadb 10.118:09
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SamYaplebrad[]: most people run 10.0 i *think*18:09
SamYaplebut its slowly moving to 10.118:09
brad[]SamYaple: ah sorry. I MySQL 5.6+ and 10+ impose STRICT_TRANS_TABLES by default that's what I meant18:09
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SamYaplemigrating from mysql 5.6 to mariadb anything is not something im familiar with18:10
brad[]our cloud had been using mariadb 5.5 .... one of our devs and I added some debug output to the migration script18:10
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SamYapleas far as i know, they are not strictly compatible. but its possible18:10
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brad[] we were able to get this output generated - maybe this is more for a DBA then18:11
SamYaplei believe it is yes18:11
brad[]I'm assuming based on what you said that 5.5 -> 10 isn't really a well tested case18:11
SamYaplemariadb5.5 -> mariadb10 has been tested alot18:12
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SamYaplemysql5.6 -> mariadb, not so much18:12
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brad[]This is 5.5 -> 10 I'm just referencing 5.6 to indicate behavior changes that started in that version18:12
SamYaplebrad[]: out of curiousity, are you using mysql+pymysql connection for the database?18:13
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brad[]I could just change the datetime format of all the created_at fields but I don't know if ... nope. Still using the older one.18:13
SamYapleso you are still using MySQL-python?18:13
SamYapleand let me guess, its MySQL-python 1.2.3?18:13
SamYaplewell, for what its worth, the mysql-python plugin is not tested at all anymore18:14
SamYapleso im not shocked bugs pop up18:15
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lucidguyOK, wtf.  Every time I create a Centos 6.8 instance/server it creates it with a 7.8GB / partition, not the full size specified from flavor???18:15
SamYaplepymysql is the only thing used anywhere that i know about in openstack18:15
SamYaplelucidguy: cloud-init issue possibly18:15
SamYaplelucidguy: check the early server logs for the "expand" stuff18:15
SamYaplelucidguy: could be failing18:15
brad[]SamYaple: trying pymysql18:16
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SamYaplebrad[]: mysql+pymysql plugin has been the only tested solution since Liberty i believe18:16
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lucidguyhmm.. but this is only happening on 6.8 images, not with my ubuntu images.  and I've tried different 6.8 images same issue. Centos 7 works.18:16
* brad[] crosses fingers18:16
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SamYaplelucidguy: sounds like cloud-init to me!18:16
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SamYaplemoral of the story, pure python is better18:17
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lucidguySamYaple: I believe you .. now I have to find out where to look.18:22
lucidguyYou mentioned logs, where do I find them.  I never built this openstak environment and am super new to it all18:23
SamYaplelucidguy: fwiw, im 95% sure ive run into this before and the solution was "build new image with newer cloud-init"18:23
SamYaplelucidguy: `nova console-log <instance-uuid>`18:23
SamYapleor in horizon i think its just called "log" in the instance window18:23
lucidguySamYaple: I'm downloading my images from centos site18:24
SamYaplelucidguy: like i said, "build new image with newer cloud-init"18:24
lucidguySamYaple: Ok, I'll try and figure that out.18:24
SamYaplebut confirm its an issue with growpart first18:24
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lucidguySamYaple: looking at console-log, don't see where it fails, or the word grow for that matter18:28
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SamYapleim not sure lucidguy. but if you are saying the partition is not growing.... cloud-init is to blame18:29
SamYaplewhere thats ebcause its not running, not new enough, whatever18:30
lucidguySamYaple: thanks, I'll keep poking around18:31
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lucidguySamYaple: Are you recommending to create an image manually?
brad[]XModeMunx: - I've not worked with connecting flat networks to instances, just tenant networks I'm afraid. I could help there possibly.18:39
SamYaplelucidguy: unfortunatelly i am18:39
brad[]But I think it's a matter of having the compute node and network nodes on the same physical networks, matching configs etc.18:39
lucidguySamYaple: Yikes18:39
SamYaplelucidguy: or, you know, use a distro made this decade :P18:40
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brad[]is this the XFS grow issue?18:40
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XModeMunxbrad[]: That's fine, you've given me good guidance. And that link does provide some insight. Just got a bit distracted - but back on it now.18:40
SamYaplebrad[]: i believe so18:40
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lucidguySamYaple: You an OpenStack guru?18:40
* lucidguy smiles18:40
brad[]you bet he is18:40
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SamYaplei know nothing18:40
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lucidguySamYaple: Thanks again, 6.8 was not my decision.18:42
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brad[]lucidguy: you could boot the base image using qemu directly from the glance storage backend under the right circumstances. Add the proper cloud-init, shut it down.18:42
SamYaplelucidguy: it never is. it never is.... :(18:42
brad[]That would let you avoid rolling a whole new image, but it's not too hard to do18:43
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lucidguybrad[]: Thats beyond my skillset :) .. very green in the openstack world.18:43
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brad[]under the right circumstances is quite the caveat though. anyone attempting to run an instance while you're doing that will end up with brokenness18:43
brad[]ah ok18:43
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brad[]lucidguy: I had a tiny head start by using Qemu+libvirt VM's on my Linux desktop, helped me to understand the mechanics of that part of openstack.18:45
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brad[]it's a starting point for creating custom images18:45
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lucidguybrad[]: what doesnt make sense to me is these are modern newly created images from centos, cloud-init must be up to date.18:58
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SamYaplelucidguy: its not _just_ cloud init. there was another component18:58
SamYaplelike ancient version of growpart18:58
SamYapleancient kernel18:59
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SamYapleit is the perfect storm of bad18:59
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lucidguySamYaple: I understand, but these images were created less than a month ago, you would think they work.  Created by the people at Centos19:00
lucidguyMaybe the images are too new.19:00
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SamYaple"too new" "Centos"19:01
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lucidguyI know ..19:01
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XModeMunxbrad[]: Holy mother on a skateboard and wearing a shellsuit onsie!!19:02
XModeMunxI can ping my VM.19:02
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brad[]I had just about the same reaction.19:03
brad[]The first time19:03
XModeMunxbrad[]: :-D19:03
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XModeMunxbrad[]: and my vm can ping If I had the energy, i'd cry.19:05
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SamYapleXModeMunx: now reboot your hypervisor!19:05
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XModeMunxSamYaple: You're here to ruin my day, aint ya.19:05
XModeMunxBut, you make a very valid point!19:06
XModeMunxSo, here we go..19:06
SamYaplethat and chew gum. and im all out of gum19:06
XModeMunxConnection closed by host. Now, we wait and ping.19:06
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SamYapleXModeMunx: did you reboot the instance, or the hypervisor?19:07
XModeMunxBear in mind, my hyper is running the compute and controller nodes who in turn run their own hyper nested running the vms and such.19:07
XModeMunxI rebooted EVERYTHING :-)19:07
SamYaplethe instances wont come back up19:07
SamYapleyoull have to start them19:07
SamYaplethere is no autostart19:07
XModeMunxOh yeah. There's not??19:07
XModeMunxvirsh autostart XX an option?19:07
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SamYapleXModeMunx: nope19:08
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SamYaplethere are technical reasons for this19:09
XModeMunx[insert "there is no spoon" meme]19:09
SamYaplebut ignore them for now19:09
XModeMunxI assume there's some smart people working on a fix?19:09
brad[]there's a general rationale19:09
XModeMunxI see pings from my hyper's-hyper, let's see what works.19:10
brad[]well no there's not really nevermind19:10
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brad[]I've always rationalized it as "no one expects the entire cloud to go down" and "if SRE's are going to down a compute node they should ensure the instances restart"19:10
SamYapleXModeMunx: no. no fix19:11
SamYapleXModeMunx: shared storage is a thing. so a hypervisor going down can move the instances to another host19:11
SamYapleif the old one comes back up and tries to autostart... well that bad19:11
XModeMunxI see. Well, once I brave the swift node to add into the mix, we;ll see about that "never goes down" thing you mentioned :-)19:11
XModeMunxSamYaple: Exactly :-)19:12
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XModeMunxhmm. For some reason my top-level bridges failed to auto-ifup. Not sure what the deal is there, but that's trivial19:12
XModeMunxHorizon up. Let's start the testvm19:13
XModeMunxaaaaand, it works :-p19:13
XModeMunxWish I could take you both for a beer.19:14
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XModeMunxJust gonna wait for the I/O errors to start flowing and data loss.19:15
lucidguyOk, thinking about building my own image.  What I don't understand is how is this any better than the images created by Centos themselves?19:16
SamYaplelucidguy: first you need to identify the issue. so the old version of whatever that is breaking whatever19:17
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SamYaplelucidguy: once you do that, you need to build an image with whatever fix you choose19:17
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lucidguySamYaple: thats the problem I don't see where things are breaking.. I do see errors regarding No kdump initial ramdisk found.[WARNING] and an error about there might not be enough space to save a vmcore.  Nothing about partitions etc.19:19
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lucidguygeorgem1: I'll give that workaround a try19:25
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umbSublimeHow can I easily find the instance UUID which uses a specific volume UUID ?19:32
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SamYapleumbSublime: go the other way, look up the volume uuid in cinder19:32
SamYapleyoull see where its attached19:32
umbSublimealright that makes sense, but if I would like an sql query directly is there an easy way to join two tables in the cinder DB ?19:34
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umbSublimebasically what I am trying to achieve is find all volumes for a list of project_ids that are on a specific AND in volume.status 'in-use', and then get a list of instances that use these volumes19:36
FL1SKHas anyone ever launched an instance from an ISO format that gives you EDD information unavailable from the kernel then eventually just reboots after a minute19:36
FL1SKthe same image a standard KVM Host does not show the EDD information unavailable error19:37
FL1SKwhat would be different with Nova KVM? Does anyone have any clues19:37
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SamYapleFL1SK: so openstack is wierd19:39
FL1SKI suppose so SamYaple19:39
SamYapleyou cant really launch an instance from an ISO like that19:39
SamYaple*technically* you can, but its not a thing you normally want to do19:39
FL1SKright SamYaple19:40
SamYapleopenstack expects the image to be an image. like a root tarball19:40
FL1SKI understand that19:40
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SamYapleso the deal is with openstack, if i remember correct, you can only really do "hybrid" isos which show up like usb drives19:41
SamYapleim not entirely sure about this since its been a few years since i tried this with openstack19:41
SamYapleand its possible with glance metadata tags and what not you can make it connect as an iso vs hdd19:41
SamYapleeither way, its a huge PITA19:42
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FL1SKoh ok SamYaple19:42
SamYapleif you _must_ install from iso FL1SK, you also require cinder19:43
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SamYaplesince you boot from iso, and need a persistant disk to install to. thats the olny option19:43
FL1SKright i got that much19:43
FL1SKThanks SamYaple -- I actually have all  your specifying with the metatag in glance19:44
FL1SKthe problem is with the boot19:44
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umbSublimewelp I got a way to do it with some bash nested for loops and some mysql queries in cinder db using both tables volume and volume_attachment19:46
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SamYapleFL1SK: without having the issue in front of me, i havent had an EDD problem in many years19:57
SamYapletry updating qemu adn seabios?19:57
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FL1SKok SamYaple that could be the problem19:58
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FL1SKthats why we have it19:58
FL1SKthere in lies the difference19:58
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FL1SKopenstack KVM uses qemu adm seabios and KVM Host systems use something entirely diff.19:59
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FL1SKWhere do i get seabios updates19:59
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SamYapleFL1SK: im not sure what you said is accurate19:59
financeMannHow do i get windows to show up in Spice? I’m just seeing a black screen and it says “Unimplemented function 108(Inval All Palettes) [ further notices suppressed ]19:59
financeMannUnimplemented function 102(Display Mark) [ further notices suppressed ]”19:59
SamYapleFL1SK: but the 'seabios' package is just a package19:59
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financeMannthis works fine with centos19:59
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SamYaplefinanceMann: install the virtio drivers in the windows instance20:00
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SamYaplefinanceMann: also, do note that windows + spice sucks20:00
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SamYaplefinanceMann: use vnc20:00
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financeMannyou mean setup a vnc server on my windows instance? or vnc will just work in console if i install virtio drivers in windows image?20:02
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FL1SKSamYaple: Seabios in my case isn't even installed so i guess its not using seabios at all20:04
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FL1SKso if not then what would it use for a bios.. nothing??20:04
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SamYaplewhats your host distro and version qemu20:04
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FL1SKnevermind.. SamYaple i was looking on the wrong machine seabios is installed20:07
FL1SKHost distro is SLES 12 SP2 with qemu seabios version 1.9.120:08
FL1SKwhich is a year old20:08
FL1SKnot that old20:08
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CorvetteZR1hello.  i'm working on a new deployment of ocata, got controller and compute nodes up.  trying to provision an instance and it's stuck in scheduling20:08
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CorvetteZR1using ubuntu 16.04 and followed the guide20:09
SamYapleFL1SK: yea that was my last stab. looks good. i dont really know what else to point you at20:09
SamYapleCorvetteZR1: you need to check logs. both nova-scheduler and nova-compute20:09
SamYaplethere is an error/stacktrace somewhere20:09
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FL1SKok thanks SamYaple - I'll keep digging on this EDD issue20:10
FL1SKmeanwhile I'm creating this same image as a qcow2 format instead of ISO20:10
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CorvetteZR1SamYaple, i see this in nova-compute.log20:11
CorvetteZR1WARNING [req-dc3c3161-1d92-455a-8baf-4c65bd3fdedf - - - - -] No authentication information found for placement API. Placement is optional in Newton, but required in Ocata. Please enable the placement service before upgrading.20:11
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SamYapleCorvetteZR1: you are running a beta release?20:13
CorvetteZR1no, it's ocata beta?20:13
SamYaplei suggest you wait until Ocata is tagged and the install guide comes out for it20:13
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SamYapleOcata has not been released20:13
CorvetteZR1oh...i thought it was :)20:13
SamYapleits 2-3 weeks out for the tagging20:14
SamYaplejust use newton and you wont have these issues20:14
CorvetteZR1No cells are configured, unable to list instances20:14
CorvetteZR1i assume cells v2 setup is required now?20:14
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SamYapleCorvetteZR1: yes. you realyl should wait for the install guide (or dig into the release notes and other specs)20:17
SamYaplethere are quite a few changes around nova thats oging to make this hard to figure out without that info20:17
CorvetteZR1when i tried adding the newton repo in xenial, it told me it's for trusty only20:18
financeMannTo install the virtio drivers on windows do I just have to run the QEMU guest agent exe?20:18
financeMannon the iso20:18
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SamYaplefinanceMann: mind you, i dont think the windows spice driver is signed....20:20
financeManni got that iso but what do i run within it20:20
financeMannany idea20:20
financeMannim only seeing a QEMU exe20:20
SamYaplethere are drivers in there20:20
SamYaplethe driver you want is QXL20:20
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financeManngotcha prolly amd64 win720:21
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XModeMunxAnything obvious to a n00b as to why I'm getting connection refused to my freshly downloaded debian cloud image? Security/firewall seems correct, and i can ping it, and I have added keys.20:55
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rewbycraftA) make sure you can ping it20:57
rewbycraftB) Check if you setup security groups right20:57
rewbycraftI forgot security groups one too many times20:57
SamYapleXModeMunx: you have to allow ssh (or allow all things)20:58
SamYapleXModeMunx: long and short, its always security groups20:58
SamYapleexcept when its not20:58
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XModeMunxThere a hat I can get for that?20:58
rewbycraftIt's always either a derp with your network setup or secgrps20:59
rewbycraftSo yep. I want that on a shirt too20:59
rewbycraftOr on a hat20:59
SamYapleXModeMunx: yea. it says "Make OpenStack Great Again"20:59
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XModeMunxhehe. The debian images say "The default login account for this image is "debian". It is in this account that cloud-init will write the public key to allow ssh logins."21:00
rewbycraftYeah? There's a bunch of images that do that21:00
SamYaplessh debian@<ip> -i ~/.ssh/yourkey21:00
rewbycraftI think the ubuntu ones also do that21:00
SamYapleyea. most images don't do password injection21:00
XModeMunxI tried that. Getting "Connection refused" as opposed to any errors to logins21:00
SamYapleits not a commonly used thing these days21:00
rewbycraftNah. Doesn't work well with KVM21:00
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SamYapleXModeMunx: thats likely security group21:01
rewbycraftI've heard of some people using it with Xen21:01
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XModeMunxSamYaple: Thanks. Will look closer to the rules other than 22 accept ;-)21:01
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SamYaplerewbycraft: it works great in KVM. but it doesnt work on virtually all shared storage backends. and it requires modifying the image (qcow2 or otherwise) and its bad21:01
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SamYapleXModeMunx: ingress and egress!21:01
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rewbycraftSamYaple: Aah. I've never bothered with the local storage, only ever use shared (cinder) storage because it's easier to backup.21:02
XModeMunxSamYaple: Aha, that could well be the bugger.21:02
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XModeMunxIngressIPv4TCP22 (SSH)
SamYapleXModeMunx: technically only ingress is needed. but i like to make allow all all all rules. because i hate security grups21:03
XModeMunxWould expect these rules to make it work21:03
SamYaplerewbycraft: ceph all the way! ceph all the things!21:04
rewbycraftSamYaple: I like sec groups for some stuff. I use them (and a slightly hackish script) to enforce "internet-only" access on some networks21:04
rewbycraftMostly for the vms that get spun up and down for my CI system21:04
rewbycraftThose have no business with incoming connections21:04
rewbycraftAlso, I used to use ceph. Don't anymore21:05
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SamYapleyea secgroups are good. little firewalls outside each instance. but they can be annoying. for testing i always allow all21:05
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rewbycraftAs a student who just loves experimenting with stuff and learning about things, I can't afford SSDs in my servers. So ceph doesn't work well for me21:05
rewbycraftI tend to just use LVM21:05
rewbycraftWith raid, of course21:06
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rewbycraft(I've been running OpenStack since icehouse yet I've never done a professional deployment.)21:06
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SamYapleperforamnce-wise, configured correctly, ceph beats out lvm for workloads when its distributed properly given the same hardware21:06
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rewbycraftMy problem with ceph is the journal21:07
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rewbycraftMy disks aren't that fast, so I have had a lot of disk thrashing issues with it21:07
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rewbycraftThat said, could be my inexperience21:07
rewbycraftLast time I checked ceph's docs were very... intense21:07
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irtermiterewbycraft: ssd is not a requirement of ceph... just suggested to get better performance; as with anything storage related21:07
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rewbycraftI know it's not a requirement, but I've found that keeping the journal on my spinning rust degrades performance down to 10MB/s21:08
rewbycraftWith a lot of disk thrashing21:08
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rewbycraftWhereas with LVM it'll happily do 100MB/s21:08
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rewbycraftAgain, it's probably a misconfig on my end21:09
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rewbycraftI've just found LVM2 to be easier to work with and a lot less resource intensive21:10
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rewbycraftI do miss the thin provisioning though21:10
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rewbycraftBeing able to just have a vm disk ready in a second was nice21:10
irtermiterewbycraft: sure... but if cost is an issue, you could reduce it a bit by putting the journal on separate drives from the storage21:10
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rewbycraftHm. True21:10
rewbycraftI could see if I could scrounge up some 80G drives from the usual sources.21:11
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irtermiteinstead of all drives ssd... use ssd or even dedicated spinning disk for the journal. that would offload your journaling workload and should limit the thrashing21:11
rewbycraftThat said, the storage machine's out of free disk bays.21:12
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rewbycraftI might give it a shit21:12
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irtermitetypical config would be 2x ssd journals and the rest spinning21:12
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rewbycraft(It's 10pm, I'm not 100% on my typing at the moment)21:12
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irtermitehahaha the prior works too.   ;)21:12
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rewbycraftI don't actually have any SSDs except for the one in my laptop.21:13
rewbycraftI might give ceph another try. I'll have to think it over21:13
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irtermitejust try it with two RAID0 spinning disks for journal and the rest storage then. better than the alternative21:14
rewbycraftMostly in the way of planning disk allocation. My main storage node has 6 bays. 2 of which are for raid1 root filesystem and 3 are in use by 3x 2TB drives in RAID521:14
irtermitethoughts SamYaple?21:14
rewbycraftSo I could try to find an 80G drive and shove the journal on it21:14
rewbycraftI have a spare somewhere21:14
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irtermitegood luck21:15
rewbycraftI might give it a try. Depends on whether I can find another drive21:15
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rewbycraftI could shove the rootfs onto a single 40G drive and use the raid1 for journal21:15
rewbycraftI have the main OS in central config management anyway21:16
irtermiteagain, even if you don't find an ssd, just try it with a dedicated spinning disk, so it is ONLY journaling21:16
rewbycraftYeah, fair enough21:16
rewbycraftI'll give that a try I think21:16
rewbycraftI do quite like the thin provisioning21:16
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irtermitelet me know how it goes. curious21:16
rewbycraftNot at home at the moment, where the servers are21:17
irtermiteno rush21:17
rewbycraftI'm rebuilding that cluster anyway, so no harm experimenting21:17
irtermitethe bouncer is always on... i'll see the response whenever21:17
rewbycraftSame here21:17
rewbycraftI'm actually considering shoving many of the services into docker. That would make upgrades a lot easier21:17
rewbycraftThe various *-api and *-conductor, etc services seem a good fit for that kind of model21:18
rewbycraftGot any input on that?21:19
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brad[]Been considering the same thing.21:19
irtermitethat's how OSA is done. services are all in containers21:19
rewbycraft(Not sure if that's considered off topic here)21:19
rewbycraftI have no idea what OSA is21:20
irtermiteOpenStack Ansible21:20
brad[]I'm not too keen on looking at kolla containers or openstack-ansible (OSA) and having that whole thing stampede over my current deploy.21:20
brad[]But the individual services look easy enough to containerize21:20
rewbycraftYeah, that's my plan too21:20
rewbycraftStill working out how to container the volume, openvswitch-agent and nova-compute services21:21
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rewbycraftBut besides those, most of it is just shuffling data around internally or serving http apis21:21
brad[]My assumption there is they'd be privileged and have host namespaces21:21
irtermiteLook through for ideas21:21
rewbycraftAll of which are very easy in the docker model21:21
rewbycraftGood idea actually.21:21
irtermiteassume it wouldn't be hard to swap out the container solution21:21
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rewbycraftcould be.21:22
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rewbycraftI am definately investigating21:22
irtermitepretty sure the #kolla community already solved your questions brad[]21:22
irtermitegive it a look21:23
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rewbycraftThey probably did. I've been reading through the docs for that project and through the code21:23
rewbycraftI'm not entirely keen on the deployment design they came up with21:23
SamYapleirtermite recommending OSA. color me suprised21:23
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SamYaplerewbycraft: you want "bluestore" in ceph21:23
irtermiteyou have LXC with OSA. You have Kolla. And I am sure there is a Docker based project out there, just not sure.21:23
irtermitehahaha SamYaple21:23
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irtermiteof course I am, but I also offer options.  ;)21:24
rewbycraftkolla is docker, irtermite21:24
brad[]irtermite: Deploying over an existing dpeloy?21:24
SamYaplerewbycraft: bluestore removes the doublewrite penalty21:24
SamYaplebrad[]: can be done, can't be done easily21:24
rewbycraftSamYaple: Oh that's definately interesting.21:24
SamYapleno project out there does this currently (at least not live)21:24
brad[]yeah that's what scares me21:24
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SamYapleat one point i wrote a migration to OSA from baremetal, but it was internal use only. and we didnt end up using it21:25
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irtermitewelcome to migration land21:25
financeMannSamYaple I installed the drivers and deployed the instance, i’m now seeing anything on the SPICE console for the windows instance21:25
financeMannall black21:25
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SamYaplefinanceMann: what can i say, i dont recommend using spice with windows21:25
rewbycraftI don't particularly trust OSA or kolla. Not that I don't think people did a good job. But because I am of the opinion that if I'm using something as "core infrastructure" I better know exactly how it's setup and how it works21:25
SamYaplerewbycraft: bluestore is best store21:25
irtermitenoVNC, right SamYaple21:25
brad[]rewbycraft: same21:25
SamYapleirtermite: correct21:25
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SamYaplewell as someone how has worked and used OSA and Kolla heavily, screw you too rewbycraft and brad[]21:26
irtermiterewbycraft: read the docs then...21:26
rewbycraftNothing against you or your work SamYaple.21:26
rewbycraftI just prefer writing my own configs21:26
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SamYaplerewbycraft: you can do that!21:26
SamYaplein both kolla and OSA21:26
irtermiteor poke cloudnull... I'm sure he will *love* to set you straight.  *maniacal laughter*21:27
rewbycraftI never said I'm not using some of the code for those projects.21:27
brad[]Our cloud is relatively simplistic. 4 external networks, a few dozen projects, nothing terribly special.21:27
rewbycraftI'm just doing my own deployment scripts and config21:27
brad[]If it could be ported into OSA or kolla that'd be an interesting long-term goal21:27
brad[]rewbycraft: what are you using? bash scripts?21:28
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brad[]I have a set of bash scripts and a start on some ansible playbooks21:28
rewbycraftAll of my infra is under it's control21:28
rewbycraftSo I'd rather not introduce ansible into that mix21:28
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rewbycraftI like having a central, unified config system. Especially one I know decently well21:29
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CorvetteZR1i have a nova_api database, but i keep getting this error when trying to add cell:21:29
CorvetteZR1ERROR: could not access cell mapping database - has api db been created?21:29
financeMannSamYaple, what do you recommend I set nova_console to, novnc?21:29
SamYaplefinanceMann: yes21:29
CorvetteZR1following this guide.  do i need to run something else?
brad[]CorvetteZR1: Have you run api_db sync and db sync?21:30
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CorvetteZR1brad[], just db sync ... not api_db21:30
SamYaplebrad[]: rewbycraft its funny. ive worked on and contributed to 4 openstack deployment projects now (7 if you count single commits) and yet at my house i deploy it by hand on all of my servers21:30
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brad[]CorvetteZR1: run api_db sync and then db sync21:30
SamYapleorder doesnt matter, but yes CorvetteZR1 there are two _different_ databases21:30
rewbycraftSamYaple: There's some irony there. Lots of it.21:30
SamYaplecoincidence is not irony!21:31
brad[]SamYaple: good way to stay familiar though. Maintaining a hands-on version without abstractions in the way21:31
CorvetteZR1yea, i see what i did wrong here, thanks brad[] :)21:31
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rewbycraftI'm usually one to prefer manual deployents over automatic ones. Or at least manually scripted deploments21:32
rewbycraftI actually deploy my multi-pop network using saltstack too21:32
rewbycraftSo I know exactly which router is configured how21:32
rewbycraftAnd that's the plan for this cluster too21:33
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CorvetteZR1brad[], SamYaple , i ran both syncs, still same error21:33
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brad[]is this a fresh setup or an upgrade21:33
brad[]actually I'm out of my depth. :-) I haven't worked with cellsv<anything>21:34
XModeMunxrewbycraft: I'm going saltstack route too21:34
rewbycraftAh nice21:34
irtermitethis is the most activity I have seen in this chan for some time now. refreshing21:34
CorvetteZR1it's fresh...but there is a compute node21:34
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SamYapleCorvetteZR1: did you configure both of your database in the config?21:34
CorvetteZR1but can't spin up yea, fresh :)21:34
rewbycraftirtermite: I tend to be hard to shut up when I start talking21:34
CorvetteZR1SamYaple, yes21:35
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SamYapleCorvetteZR1: this is newton?21:35
CorvetteZR1SamYaple, no, it's ocata21:36
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SamYapleyou got other databases and configurations you need to do then21:37
brad[]good lord really21:37
rewbycraftSamYaple: I read some stuff about bluestore. If I'm correct, I wouldn't need to separate journal and data onto separate disks? If so, that is really attractive to me.21:38
CorvetteZR1ah, yes...i need to create the cell0 db21:38
SamYaplerewbycraft: its in the latest release (Kraken), but its marked experimental21:38
SamYapleits perfect for dev21:38
rewbycraftThat's what I've got backups for. ;)21:38
SamYapleit will be stable in Luminous i believe21:38
brad[]We're still using hammer, we need to get that update done.21:38
irtermiteheh, right on rewbycraft... nothing wrong with being excited about something you are passionate about21:39
rewbycraftirtermite: If I ever get too noisy in here, yell at me to shut up.21:39
SamYaplebrad[]: upgrade to latest hammer. then to latest jewel. then to kraken21:39
irtermitewhy rewbycraft? all I have to do is not look at the chan. problem solved21:40
rewbycraftI've had people get angry that I cause too much backlog on their clients21:40
SamYaplewhat would you expect from an infrared terminte21:40
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rewbycraftSo I'm just giving everyone a blank check to yell at me to shut up.21:40
irtermitewell there's there problem right there... logging large chans is... um...21:41
irtermiteyou know it isn't infrared SamYaple... don't be a jerkface.21:41
irtermitethere's their*21:41
brad[]SamYaple: Hm. Good to know. Have you made the switch from root -> ceph user?21:41
brad[]I'm also curious as to whether the packages pivot from sysvinit to systemd units or if I'll need to do that21:42
brad[]seems like + udev should cover it though21:42
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SamYaplebrad[]: yea21:42
SamYaplebrad[]: packages are really tested21:43
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SamYapleyoull want to move to 16.04 ubuntu or whatever the latest distro you are running is21:43
SamYapleor just take downtime. its not awful21:43
SamYapleyou cant really lose data21:43
brad[]I can lose data, I'm amazing at losing data21:44
SamYapleyou have to be trying to lose data with ceph21:44
SamYapleits hard to accidentally lose data21:44
brad[]aye true21:44
rewbycraftYeah. My experience too21:44
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rewbycraftHm. Ceph+Bluestore and openstack in docker. That's gonna be a fun deployment.21:48
SamYaplerewbycraft: im working on openstack on kubernetes at the moment21:48
rewbycraftIf anyone cares, I can keep them updated as I go. That said, won't have time to actually deploy anything for at least a few weeks. Got a lot of reports to write at the moment.21:48
rewbycraftah cool21:49
brad[]SamYaple: within kolla?21:49
SamYaplebrad[]: nah. ive moved on from kolla mostly. #openstack-helm is the project im working on21:49
XModeMunxAnyone fancy d/l
SamYaplenow i just do maintenance type stuff in kolla when people ping me21:49
XModeMunxand seeing if you can ssh to it?21:49
brad[]SamYaple: interesting21:49
XModeMunxIt just refuses. My cirros test ssh connection seems to work21:50
brad[]SamYaple: the helm project is more for kube operators wanting to deploy it I take it?21:50
SamYaplebrad[]: helm is a bit-o-templating and version management ontop of the kubeadm yaml files things21:50
rewbycraftThat's cool tough21:51
SamYaplebrad[]: makes things reuasable, but once its deploy you can completely remove helm and kubernetes would have no clue it was deploy with helm21:51
brad[]Hmm. Nice.21:51
rewbycraftThat's neat21:51
rewbycraftIf I ever deploy at "scale" I do intend to look into those kinds of deployment techniques21:51
SamYaplethis way i can run `helm install keystone` 10 times, and get 10 different keystones that dont conflict21:52
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rewbycraftBut right now, my scale is about 5 servers21:52
rewbycraftWith only two of them usable as VM nodes21:52
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SamYaplerewbycraft: my home lab is 3 nodes for compute. then i run openstack in clusters of openstack on those three nodes to test massively distributed21:52
brad[]that's one thing I'd love to see in OpenStack itself - the ability to define infrastructure, projects and applications as manifests, there'd be no need to be particularly careful about one's pet openstack deploy at that point, other than the time it would take to reconstruct it from the manifest files.21:52
rewbycraftDang. That's pretty cool.21:53
brad[]Heat but more than heat.21:53
SamYapleheat but good21:53
SamYapleim being too critical arent I?21:53
SamYapleheat but working21:53
brad[]I don't think so :P21:53
rewbycraftMeh, never really cared for heat21:53
rewbycraftIt just feels like a "me too" thing21:53
CorvetteZR1i created the nova_cell0 db, but when i run nova-manage cell_v2 map_cell0, it runs without error but does not populate the database21:53
CorvetteZR1i did run api db sync21:54
CorvetteZR1and db sync21:54
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SamYapleCorvetteZR1: you need minimum 2 cell dbs. cell0 is the "blackhole this doesnt match a cell" cell21:54
SamYapleman you _really_ want to run ocata dont you21:54
CorvetteZR1oh, wait! progress21:54
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brad[]is this really required for ocata21:55
CorvetteZR1db sync actualyl gave me output21:55
CorvetteZR1SamYaple, yea, i do :D21:55
SamYaplebrad[]: yea21:55
SamYapleCorvetteZR1: fair enough. moment21:55
XModeMunxaha. So, this is needed to get the key, but I have the following error:[WARNING]: Calling '' failed [0/120s]21:55
financeMannSamYaple It says the Site Cannot be reached when I try to console vnc to a windows machine ->
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brad[]the install docs don't say a word about cell* databases21:55
financeMannthe logs look good SamYaple but maybe you can see an issue with my config21:55
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Shadow07can somebody help me getting ceilometer metrics stored in gnocchi to show correctly in grafana?21:56
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Shadow07i have problems building the query correctly it seems21:56
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CorvetteZR1ok, so down to the last step, when i run nova-manager cell_v2 discover_hosts, it's trying to connect to database nova/nova21:57
SamYapleCorvetteZR1: ive not done this manually before. i just fixed deploy tools that needed to do it21:58
SamYapleand that doc is right... so go from there21:58
SamYaplemaybe wipe the db if you think you messed up21:58
SamYaplefinanceMann: you can't switch the vnc/spice driver on the fly. did you start a new instances after switching to vnc?21:59
financeMannno i can kill the instance and create a enw one21:59
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rewbycraftAnyway, SamYaple, irtermite, brad[], it was fun talking to you guys. I need to get some shut-eye though. So I wish you guys/gals a good day!22:03
irtermitepeace rewbycraft22:03
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CorvetteZR1SamYaple, any idea why it's trying to connect to nova/nova?22:05
CorvetteZR1OperationalError: (pymysql.err.OperationalError) (1044, u"Access denied for user 'nova'@'%' to database 'nova/nova'")22:05
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SamYapleCorvetteZR1: config error?22:06
CorvetteZR1SamYaple, that's the last step, nova-manager cell_v2 discover_hosts22:06
SamYaplerewbycraft: bai22:06
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XModeMunxCan anyone explain how the cloud_init process works to be able to gather the keys horizon is to offer?22:07
XModeMunxI mean, I'm using a flat network to my local network, so how would it expect to get the keys to install? Or will it not? :-/22:07
XModeMunxI'll roll my own if needs be.22:07
CorvetteZR1SamYaple, found it :(22:08
CorvetteZR1i mean :)22:08
SamYapleconfig file?22:08
financeMannSamYaple, totaly new instance and same issue, site cant be reached22:08
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financeMann“[req-9e6b2216-df23-4b17-8926-b9d2a217d10b e5b9d47d1b7b423989cff95c6d879eaf 024d5a7f1a974e30a0bb5cf3d64965c3 - default default] HTTP exception thrown: Unavailable console type novnc.”22:14
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peter-osHi all.  I just upgraded from Mitaka to Newton and I'm having a problem with nova.  I can't start instances.  Everything else seems to be fine.  The only error in the logs I can see is Error while refreshing network cache......timed out waiting for message ID...  RabbitMQ is running, and everything else seems to work.  I'd greatly appreciate any suggestions on what to look at next.22:16
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CorvetteZR1SamYaple, ok, so i went through that guide, and nova-manager cell_v2 discover_hosts ran successfully22:24
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CorvetteZR1but now horizon says unable to retrieve intances and i get an error if i try to create an instance22:24
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CorvetteZR1i restarted nova-compute and it shows up in the list when i run hypervisor-list22:29
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CorvetteZR1status: error :(22:32
XModeMunxnn all, thanks for today.22:33
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CorvetteZR1it can't find flavors22:41
CorvetteZR1i create 2 different ones, and it can't find either of them22:41
peter-osFound it:  was missing use_neutron = True in nova.conf  :(22:41
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