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| mcortinas | hello | 08:20 |
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| mcortinas | i'm going to start a new project with apache cassndra, i'm newbie with openstack, i read some documentation, do you recommendme deploy inside openstack? | 08:21 |
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| admin0 | you want to deploy openstack or cassandra ? | 08:28 |
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| blurgenstein | hello | 09:49 |
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| mcortinas | @admin0 i want deploy cassandra cluster | 10:20 |
| mcortinas | i'm not sure over openstack environment or not.... | 10:21 |
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| admin0 | it works .. performance or what you want out of it is a different question altogether | 10:21 |
| admin0 | you will get a virtual OS on which you can do anything .. plus create you rown networking topology | 10:21 |
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| mcortinas | about network, i remmember some problem in EC2 and cassandra with broadcast_address and listen_address with more than 1 network interface in each container | 10:25 |
| mcortinas | do you know how to manage this with openstack | 10:25 |
| mcortinas | i remember.... i set an extra param in EC2 environment in order to use a interface for interconnect and other interface for applications | 10:27 |
| mcortinas | mmmm | 10:27 |
| mcortinas | listen_on_broadcast_address, i'm not suer.... | 10:27 |
| mcortinas | sure... | 10:27 |
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| kukacz | hi, I experience stack.sh failures while installing devstack stable/liberty branch on Ubuntu 14.04 - seems to be related to setuptools, osprofiler versions | 13:00 |
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| kukacz | is that some known issue? any workarounds? | 13:01 |
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| blurgenstein | I also failed with devstack | 13:31 |
| blurgenstein | what err you get | 13:31 |
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| kukacz | blurgenstein: "Could not import setuptools which is required to install from a source distribution." | 13:36 |
| kukacz | it seems I have found the cause now, however | 13:36 |
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| blurgenstein | otherwise, go on with packstack | 13:37 |
| blurgenstein | I got weird mysql behaviour | 13:37 |
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| kukacz | 1) I did not perform enough cleanup between attempts, 2) neither Liberty is present in projects GIT repositories anymore | 13:37 |
| blurgenstein | errno 111 failure to connect, but by hand I _was_ able to connect | 13:37 |
| blurgenstein | anyway, packstack seems to be more stable and easy to setup. | 13:37 |
| blurgenstein | liberty? Go with something newer.. | 13:38 |
| blurgenstein | http://rdoproject.org | 13:38 |
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| blurgenstein | see that url for packstack | 13:38 |
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| kukacz | I need even older - Kilo :-) | 13:38 |
| blurgenstein | why? | 13:38 |
| kukacz | maybe I'll try it with old packages of RDO, good idea | 13:39 |
| kukacz | need to test a role definition before I apply it on a real Kilo env | 13:39 |
| kukacz | so wanted to have as close release in test env as possible | 13:40 |
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| kukacz | blurgenstein: thanks for idea! | 13:45 |
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| blurgenstein | good luck! | 13:46 |
| _val_ | Guys, is openstack mature enough to be deployed on a datacenter? At the moment we're using vmware esxi hypervisor on our hosts. | 13:46 |
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| admin0 | _val_: it is | 13:49 |
| admin0 | but it needs people matured on running and operating it | 13:50 |
| admin0 | _val_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EWnmg3OUsk | 13:50 |
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| _val_ | admin0: well I mean when things go south we always can contact vmware people since we've unlimitted support. But what if something crashes on openstack and the whole cloud infrastructure collapese?S | 13:51 |
| _val_ | admin0: thanks for the link | 13:51 |
| admin0 | thre are companies that provide you commercial support for Openstack | 13:52 |
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| blurgenstein | I am converting from old documentation , ' neutron subnet-create --name public_subnet' | 14:01 |
| blurgenstein | this --name , is that the equivalent of this: openstack subnet create --network-segment public_subnet ? | 14:01 |
| blurgenstein | @admin0 | 14:01 |
| blurgenstein | u know this? | 14:01 |
| admin0 | blurgenstein: http://www.openstackfaq.com/openstack-add-floating-ips/ and http://www.openstackfaq.com/openstack-add-direct-attached-dhcp-ip/ | 14:02 |
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| blurgenstein | admin0: thanks, but what I mean is that the neutron command has been consolidated into the openstack executable | 14:06 |
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| blurgenstein | nvm, I found it, equivalent is: ' openstack subnet create worker_subnet' (--name is not necessary because of the name being a positional argument) | 14:26 |
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| _val_ | Trying to understand the concept of cinder vs swift. Cinder provides block storage e.g /dev/sdb /dev/sdc etc.. while swift provides storage for e.g qcow2 format and other files? | 14:35 |
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| admin0 | _val_: cinder is volume storage .. something you mount into your instances like an extra disk and use as block devices | 15:04 |
| admin0 | swift is object storage | 15:04 |
| admin0 | glance is an image backend which can run and utilize any backend like swift or blocks or nfs etc | 15:05 |
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| DimGR | hello | 15:08 |
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| DimGR | does anyone have experience with fragmented floating IPs like in this example ? http://www.ajo.es/post/74363654373/using-openstack-neutron-sdn-in-ovh-or-hetzner | 15:09 |
| _val_ | admin0: So if I have a vm and I attach a /dev/sdf to the vm, this /dev/sdf is coming from cindr? | 15:09 |
| admin0 | yes | 15:09 |
| admin0 | if you want to store say 10,000 files in a system like hard drives which needs to be mounted and then the files access from your machines = cinder | 15:09 |
| admin0 | if you want to store 10,000 files, but want to access each files separately via a public URL (even from outside your vms, and by the world) = swift | 15:10 |
| admin0 | cinder = your UBS drive ; swift = a free image hosting server :D | 15:10 |
| admin0 | well, not exactly but a rough example | 15:11 |
| admin0 | so if you want to give files to someone else, copy to usb, give the usb to them, they plug in to their system and access the files = cinder | 15:11 |
| admin0 | or just upload somehwer , give URL = swift | 15:11 |
| _val_ | admin0: so cinder = block(sda,sdb,sdc etc.), swift is object (.txt, .jpg, etc.. | 15:11 |
| _val_ | ? | 15:11 |
| admin0 | yes | 15:11 |
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| _val_ | Alright, but then swift is a layer above cinder correct? | 15:12 |
| admin0 | its apples and oranges | 15:12 |
| _val_ | Doesn't have to but.. you can combine them? | 15:12 |
| admin0 | cinder and swift are different | 15:12 |
| admin0 | in an openstack deployment you can have only 1 or none or both | 15:13 |
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| admin0 | swift is in fact a standalone product .. needs only keystone .. and is not dependent on anything else .. cinder needs keystone, but to utilize cinder, you need your nova, neutron glance to be working | 15:13 |
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| _val_ | admin0: alright, thanks for the explanation. I seem to understand more of it than I did 2 hours ago | 15:15 |
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| _val_ | admin0: swift is an object store but it must have an abstraction layer like physical hard drives. | 15:20 |
| admin0 | swift is an object store .. the data lives in some computer (swift storage servers ) and served by swift proxy servers | 15:20 |
| _val_ | E.g picture.jpg < xfs_filesystem < logical_volume < volume_group < physical_volume = (/dev/sdb,/dev/sdc,/dev/sdd) ? | 15:21 |
| _val_ | hmm.. alright. Going back to reading | 15:22 |
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| thomas_oneill | I notice that some conbributors have managed to link their github and launchpads so that their openstack contributions show up against their github accounts, how do I do this? | 19:07 |
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| upworklink | __val__:you need understand 2 entity. Emulation of block device and protocols of save of files as object. In context of virtualization ( 'clouds') you can see different services. VM want to use block devices. And you can store files (images of disks, dumps of CD/DVD etc) as objects. | 21:53 |
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| _val_ | upworklink: thanks for the clarification. Makes sense. | 22:19 |
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