Wednesday, 2017-06-21

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SamYapleAndyWojo: youll do fine01:46
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AndyWojoseems pretty straight forward. I'm going through the list of things I need to know and I can do all of them from the CLI01:53
AndyWojowondering if there are any gotchas01:53
AndyWojoor twists01:53
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AndyWojoI'm also concerned that whatever they're testing COA on, might not have the openstack client02:52
AndyWojofor example openstack volume vs cinder-volume etc02:52
AndyWojothe commands are similar but not the same02:52
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jidarI can't imagine they'd still be testing the old clients03:10
jidareven though, last I recall there were still a few things the new client didn't do03:10
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AndyWojoyup03:19
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AndyWojoone thing I better brush up on is heat03:22
AndyWojoI don't have a lot of experience using heat, but it seems pretty straight forward03:23
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jidargah, heat is anything but straight forward imho03:36
jidarbut I can't imagine the COA is too in depth on data types and all that03:36
jidarmore like, just command line flags and the general idea03:36
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cshenHi guys, we're running newton. in one project, we have about 200 VMs. run 'openstack server list' took about 20 seconds. by using '--timing', the most of time spent at  GET https://xxx.cloud:8774/v2.1/e3afbb5dfe31457c9d8577396029bb0c/servers/detail07:50
cshenand if I ran it several times, the response time was similar, it looks like in the nova api, the result was never cached.07:51
cshenso I would like to know how to optimize nova-api-os-compute?07:51
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BarBQAnyone used packstack with multinode configuration and got https working?08:31
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LarsErikPhi all10:08
LarsErikPuhm. we managed to delete a server with a cinder volume attached. and, now I can't delete the volume10:08
LarsErikPbecause you can not delete a volume which is in use...10:09
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LarsErikPhow would I resolve this? :S10:09
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LarsErikPis there no other way aroud this, than directly in the database?10:19
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AndyWojoLarsErikP: did you try the force flags?11:16
AndyWojothis happened to me before, sometimes the force flag worked, the one time we had to delete it out of the database11:16
ebbexWhat parameters can I tune to influence how many instances are scheduled/built/booted simultanously?11:17
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klipkaebbex: probably /etc/nova/nova.conf , look for max_concurrent_builds11:20
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ebbexklipka: We changed that parameter to 0, but it does not seem to have any influence. It is also not documented exactly where this parameter is used (compute/api/scheduler/placement/...)11:26
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LarsErikPAndyWojo: force flag did not work11:29
LarsErikPAndyWojo: i've fixed in the database for now11:30
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cshenLarsErikP: I also met a similar problem, it's not possible to delete resources of stack in Horizon. In the end, I had to mark it as COMPLETE instead of IN PROGRESS in db.11:33
cshenthe resource was actually removed, but db showed 'in progress'.11:35
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LarsErikPi don't exactly know how my scenario happened, to be honested11:45
LarsErikPhonest*11:45
LarsErikPit may've been an instance with a cinder volume as a root disk11:45
LarsErikPbecause deleting a server with an _extra_ cinder volume attached, should cause a detach11:46
klipkaebbex: this parameter is passed to eventlet in nova/compute/manager.py, so probably parameters defining maximum number of threads running concurrently also matters11:47
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klipkabut I was never testing this so don't what else could matter11:49
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klipka*don't know11:50
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cshenLarsErikP: how did you delete it? in Horizon or?11:57
cshenif the deletion has timed out, then it's very hard to judge.11:57
LarsErikPcshen: I can't really know if I deleted the instance myself, or if the user did it a long time ago11:57
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cshenLarsErikP: I C. in the end, db is the last resort.11:58
LarsErikPour environment is a university. So what I was doing, was to delete all resources that was used in a finished course. We have a script for this task, and the script will delete first delete all instances in a project, then the volumes11:59
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LarsErikPso, I don't know it the instance was deleted during my script run, or if it was deleted by the student "a long time ago"12:00
cshenunderstand.12:00
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LarsErikPi'll try to recreate the scenario in our test env12:01
LarsErikPso I can either fix the script, or instruct the students better :p12:01
cshenyep. deletion in db is not nice, but it worked ;-)12:01
LarsErikPnot nice at all, and I was afraid to break everything :P12:01
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LarsErikPbut I really didn't see any other solutions...12:01
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LarsErikPcinder client won't let me delete an attached volume. detach command can't detach from a non-existing instance...12:02
LarsErikPforce-delete did not work...12:02
cshensame to me with heat stack cmd.12:03
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MasterofJOKershm ... shoudn't there be a recent log-entry to an API endpoint, if the instance was removed by the script?12:04
MasterofJOKersonly important, if you suspect a bug and want to report it, I guess12:04
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ebbexklipka: This is for nova-compute right? How can I tweak the number of workers/threads there?12:06
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LarsErikPMasterofJOKers: true12:15
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klipkaebbex: I'm not proficient enough to point you. I don't get exactly what these threads do and how it is done. So can only advice to search through nova.conf for thread12:19
klipkaand read docs for these parameters12:19
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AndyWojoPerfect example of the openstack client not being able to do all of the things13:03
AndyWojoin order to create an encrypted volume you use openstack volume type create13:03
AndyWojoand then you use cinder to actually create the encryption type13:03
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BloqueNegrosomebody here using neutron with their own dns domainname?14:19
BloqueNegrowhile I use neutron for networking, apparently the metadata is still derived from nova, which results in the wrong domain name when curling the metadata14:20
BloqueNegroand i'm not sure if thats a bug or broken as intended14:20
BloqueNegroi a.sol14:20
BloqueNegro*i also fail to make hostname -f working14:20
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BloqueNegrohostname -A will give me the entry from the dnsmasq config (which is using my custom dns domainname from neutron.conf for the router ports but not for the instances - they get openstacklocal)14:21
BloqueNegroso i have: mydomain @ neutron.conf14:22
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BloqueNegroopenstacklocal @ dnsmasq lease file14:22
BloqueNegronovalocal at metadata agent14:22
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BloqueNegroi know how to fix the metadata part - by setting dhcp_domain - but i cant figure out how to supply the correct dnsmasq config14:24
egonzalezBloqueNegro, what release are you using? have use_neutron = true in nova.conf?14:24
BloqueNegroegonzalez: using mitaka @ ubuntu 160414:24
BloqueNegroand yes, use_neutron is set14:24
BloqueNegroeverything else is working like a charm14:24
egonzalezBloqueNegro, is the wrong hostname with cirros/ubuntu/centos instance?14:25
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BloqueNegroyes, and the hostname is correct14:25
BloqueNegrothe domainname is bugging me14:25
BloqueNegroegonzalez: https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/107767/dns-resolution-fails/14:26
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BloqueNegrodon't know if it would be resolved if i would 'just' upgrade to newton/ocata14:27
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egonzalezfails with all instance distros or just with one in specific? some issues happen with centos cloud images using default cloud init domain14:27
BloqueNegrotested with cirros and ubuntu14:28
BloqueNegrosame behaviour, ubuntu will also throw an error when using sudo14:28
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BloqueNegroand this is fixable without touching the instance :/ cant figure out how however14:29
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BloqueNegrodhcp_agent.ini also knows '#dhcp_domain = openstacklocal' but it says its deprecated14:32
BloqueNegroand tells me to add it to neutron.conf as 'dns_domain' - which i did which did exactly nothing14:32
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BloqueNegroso EITHER openstack wants me to use a deprecated option, waiting to blow in my face during next update... or there is some black magic i dont get14:33
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BloqueNegroegonzalez: could you have a look at your dhcp_agent.ini and see if it was set there?14:33
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egonzalezBloqueNegro, nope, just have dns_domain in neutron, port_security/dns extension drivers and nothing else14:35
egonzalezin nova dont have even set dhcp_domain14:35
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egonzalezBloqueNegro, check than neutron ports have correct dns attributes14:36
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BloqueNegrodns_attributes are fine14:39
BloqueNegroeven though i dont use external dns14:39
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BloqueNegrodns_name and dns_assignment are correct14:40
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BloqueNegroif you do a 'curl 169.254.169.254/latest/meta-data/hostname' - you get the correct dns name?14:40
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egonzalezBloqueNegro, cannot verify. i'm running master and atm there is a bug with metadata+memcached14:46
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BloqueNegroah, k16:17
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AndyWojo"The Certified OpenStack Administrator exam has been upgraded to the OpenStack Newton release, and has new added features for an improved user experience. If you have been practicing on a different version you will be okay—there are no changes to content, just changes to improve your exam experience. You can read more about the updates and see a video demo of the new exam on Superuser."17:14
AndyWojoThe day I take my COA17:14
AndyWojo:p17:14
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gheorghe_where can I take the exam?17:22
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AndyWojohttps://cert.openstack.org/portal17:24
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madorn@AndyWojo: lol...17:54
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BloqueNegronice, openstack is apparently written by trolls18:28
BloqueNegroor atleast neutron18:28
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BloqueNegrohttps://nopaste.xyz/?fbf9514787b6aa0b#v9hkKfoxY5QDGgdTIZ4Dg1ltlbsipOSHO/gM+eM+T5E=18:29
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BloqueNegrothis option is (obviously) used. rather than the one in neutron.conf18:30
BloqueNegrobecause... idk...18:30
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gheorghe_deprecated doesn't mean obsolete18:35
BloqueNegrobut deprecated _should_ mean 'we gonna have a look at the var we propose here'18:36
BloqueNegro(atleast from my understanding)18:36
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BloqueNegroafaik you deprecate stuff AFTER you implemented the new functionality. and not before^^18:39
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BloqueNegrohmmm, weird18:53
BloqueNegrowhen creating a NEW instance, it will apply the wrong hostname, derived from the ip18:53
BloqueNegrowhen i restard the dns daemon, it will get the right one18:54
BloqueNegroi cant really restart my dns each time a new instance spawns, right?18:54
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drewbertHi friends, I'm getting a pep8 error on your yocto python-pep8 1.6.2 recipe.21:41
drewbertmrp21:42
drewbertchecksum error*21:42
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