| darinavbt | Here's what I'm seeing. I'm having the same issue as this guy. https://askubuntu.com/questions/927014/landscape-autopilot-accessing-inner-juju-environment/927888#927888 | 00:00 |
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| darinavbt | My "juju status" on the MAAS box when logged in as the user I used to run the spell shows exactly what he shows. | 00:02 |
| setuid | blergh, what is this mess? sudo 'JUJU_HOME=/var/lib/landscape/juju-homes/`sudo ls -rt /var/lib/landscape/juju-homes/ | tail -1` sudo -u landscape -E bash' | 00:02 |
| darinavbt | I'm guessing that's the Ubuntu way of doing this. :P | 00:02 |
| setuid | I hope not | 00:03 |
| setuid | Ok, can you juju ssh 0/lxd/0? | 00:03 |
| darinavbt | It works. It puts me into that container as "landscape". | 00:03 |
| setuid | Not only is that just about the worst, most insecure bash one-liner you could possibly write, but there are no-doubt better ways of doing whatever that is trying to achieve | 00:04 |
| darinavbt | Yep | 00:04 |
| darinavbt | And if I try to do "juju status" there it tells me juju can't be found and I should apt install it. | 00:04 |
| setuid | I've never used landscape or autopilot, never really saw the need, but I can help you with the juju and maas bits. | 00:04 |
| setuid | Right, because that's not where juju runs | 00:04 |
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| darinavbt | OK | 00:05 |
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| darinavbt | So this is as far as I've gotten | 00:06 |
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| darinavbt | And I'm stuck from here. | 00:07 |
| darinavbt | I have no problem starting the whole deployment again. This would be the third time. :P | 00:07 |
| darinavbt | I can even wipe teh MAAS server and start over from scratch. No biggie. | 00:07 |
| darinavbt | I've thought about a manual install of OpenStack, but we like what we see from Ubuntu, wrt their support, etc. | 00:08 |
| darinavbt | So we figured we'd go down that road. | 00:08 |
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| setuid | *nod*, and I can respect that... | 00:08 |
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| darinavbt | Unfortunately, I need to run. | 00:08 |
| * setuid points to his whois | 00:08 | |
| darinavbt | I'll jump back on here in the morning | 00:08 |
| setuid | Ok, sounds good | 00:08 |
| darinavbt | Ah, nice. | 00:09 |
| darinavbt | Thank you very much. I hope we can continue this tomorrow | 00:09 |
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| hel0tsp | do you need a BMC to run MAAS? | 00:17 |
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| calandril1 | Ok, this has to be a really stupid question but i've been trying to figure this out for ages. How do i build a admin.novarc from scratch? Closest I've come is: https://linuxacademy.com/community/posts/show/topic/12017-openstack-cli-build-credential-authentication-file-without-access-to-horizon-rc-file | 03:14 |
| calandril1 | but that requires credentials that I have to figure out.. iiuc and I am not sure how to do so.. bread crumbs please, anyone? | 03:15 |
| calandril1 | will the exam supply these os-* infos? | 03:16 |
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| madorn | calandril1: the only way to build a credential file is by knowing the information. | 03:29 |
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| madorn | if you can login to the horizon dashboard, you can easily grab the information from access and security section --> Api Access | 03:29 |
| madorn | In some situations - you may not need to build the file. An exam or real-world OpenStack administrator could give you one. | 03:30 |
| calandril1 | madorn: need the information to log into the dashboard in the first place. | 03:30 |
| calandril1 | I use the cli exclusively and have never hopped on horizon | 03:31 |
| madorn | okay. so in that case, you will need to ask someone for the information. | 03:31 |
| madorn | now, the link you provided has some data on the top. | 03:31 |
| calandril1 | trying to prep for coa but never had to actually create a novarc. I tend to manage the clouds services once live | 03:31 |
| madorn | you could easily construct a credential file with this data. | 03:31 |
| calandril1 | so it's just assumed you know each of those bullet points? | 03:32 |
| madorn | well think about this from a real-world perspective. | 03:32 |
| calandril1 | in the exam that information will be provided? | 03:32 |
| madorn | if you were a stranger. would you have credential information for someone else's cloud just sitting around or easily accessible? | 03:32 |
| madorn | probably not. you would need to get that information from someone. | 03:32 |
| madorn | someone who authorized you to have it. | 03:33 |
| calandril1 | no, but when you have root access to everything in the cloud cli already, there must be some way to obtain it, right? | 03:33 |
| madorn | i think you are confusing the concept of a cloud API and operating system. | 03:33 |
| calandril1 | yes.. yes I am | 03:33 |
| madorn | check this out: | 03:33 |
| calandril1 | sorry long night | 03:33 |
| madorn | no problem. | 03:33 |
| madorn | OpenStack gets installed on an operating system, i.e. Ubuntu, Red Hat, whatever. | 03:34 |
| madorn | and if you are the owner of that cloud, you're right, chances are you DO have the root account to the operating system on which OpenStack is installed. | 03:34 |
| madorn | So imagine your cloud is up and running. Now it's your responsibility to create users, projects, groups, etc. | 03:35 |
| madorn | you would never give operating system credentials to those users. Just OpenStack credentials. | 03:36 |
| madorn | those credentials allow the user to interact with the OpenStack API. | 03:36 |
| madorn | via the Horizon dashboard, cli, etc. | 03:36 |
| madorn | The exam tests your ability perform administrator-level functions VIA the API. | 03:36 |
| madorn | I believe there are a few objectives that will require root level operating system access. | 03:37 |
| madorn | but for the most part, you will need to know how to interact with the OpenStack API via the Horizon dashboard and CLI. | 03:37 |
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| madorn | The exam will provide you with the admin credentials required to interact with the OpenStack API. | 03:37 |
| madorn | but you must know how to construct a credential file. | 03:38 |
| calandril1 | oh, well that's easy enough | 03:38 |
| madorn | In the example from linuxacademy | 03:38 |
| madorn | you sent. | 03:38 |
| madorn | do you know how to construct a credential file from the information provided? | 03:38 |
| madorn | i can show you how if you don't know. | 03:38 |
| calandril1 | I thought I did.. I just checked my work on one of the clouds and no.. No I do not | 03:39 |
| calandril1 | thank you, that would be appreciated | 03:39 |
| calandril1 | though is that what this example url is going into? | 03:40 |
| madorn | one sec. | 03:40 |
| calandril1 | ty | 03:40 |
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| madorn | http://paste.openstack.org/show/HSH6y2mA7mhNdOOCEbWL/ | 03:41 |
| madorn | when you source that file, it temporarily sets the variables in your bash session...now when you run any of the openstack CLI commands, i.e. openstack server create, openstack network list, maybe even the old commands like nova list, neutron net-create, they will get the credentials from variables in the session. | 03:42 |
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| calandril1 | so that part I get, it's teh obtaining the further env variables from keystone that I'm struggling with | 03:49 |
| madorn | further env variables? | 03:49 |
| madorn | what specifically | 03:49 |
| calandril1 | for example I have the credentials for one test cloud, but not its horizon. that never bothers me since I issue the creation and destruction commands directly in cli, but now I have to get into horizon. The admin account already exist, but I don't have a source-able file to get the creds from | 03:50 |
| madorn | think about this....who are you interacting with when you source the credential files for your test cloud and start issuing commands in the CLI? | 03:50 |
| madorn | what specifically are you interacting with? | 03:51 |
| calandril1 | keystone? I thought it checks if you have access and passes the token or whatsit so that the cli will ack my command | 03:51 |
| madorn | yeah, you're correct you are interacting with keystone. | 03:51 |
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| madorn | what about when you log into horizon? | 03:51 |
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| calandril1 | I assume the same. It's why I've been messing around with keystone endpoint cli and help, but I'm not sure I understand how keystone actually does it's thing | 03:52 |
| calandril1 | I've not been able to actually extract the horizon admin pass from keystone yet | 03:52 |
| madorn | i think that's where you are confused.. | 03:53 |
| madorn | there's no difference. | 03:53 |
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| madorn | between sourcing a credential and using the cli and logging into horizon. | 03:53 |
| calandril1 | oh | 03:54 |
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| madorn | if you need to get into horizon you would simply look in the contents of your credential file. | 03:54 |
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| calandril1 | so you're saying that the admin pass for keystone provided by the cloud creator for the admin.novarc is actually the pass for the horizon admin gui | 03:54 |
| madorn | its the same thing | 03:55 |
| madorn | both are openstack API credentials | 03:55 |
| madorn | if you log into horizon, you're interacting with the Keystone API. | 03:55 |
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| madorn | if you source the file and use the CLI, you are interacting with the Keystone API. | 03:55 |
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| calandril1 | I get what you were saying before now, so horizon is the same endpoint? (is that the correct term here) | 03:56 |
| calandril1 | the same keystone api endpoint for recieving commands | 03:56 |
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| calandril1 | (thanks I get you now. I'm also sorting out terminology) | 03:56 |
| madorn | you're thinking the right way. Horizon is just a website. When you log in with that username and password from your credential file, it sends a HTTP POST command to the same endpoint in your credential file. | 03:59 |
| madorn | does that make sense? | 03:59 |
| madorn | you just dont see it happen in your browser. | 03:59 |
| madorn | (unless you have development tools on or something) | 03:59 |
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| calandril1 | sorry, the endpoint resides in the cred file? Like in keystone db? I assumed the endpoint on keystone side refered to the keystone url to which the restfull api connected (it is using rest right?) and then keystone service would get do its thing with the keystone db (check your creds against db, pull authed tokens(?), and pass that and maybe your actual command to whatever you are trying to control) | 04:01 |
| calandril1 | Am I getting that chain of communication wrong (I'm sure I am since it's all assumptions from what little I've learned so far) | 04:02 |
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| calandril1 | Thanks madorn :) | 04:06 |
| calandril1 | You've been a great help! Given me a lot more ground to launch into my investigations from | 04:07 |
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| DonaldTrump007 | hi you like how i have money more than you and can harrass you with commercials if you mess with me well guess who it was ;D duh somebody rich | 04:07 |
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| BloqueNegro | hi everyone :) I installed openstack from the ubuntu archives but want to use a different theme | 08:15 |
| BloqueNegro | any idea how I can add the default and the material theme to the openstack dashboard? | 08:16 |
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| LarsErikP | keystone domain specific config, with ldap backend. no way to make it understand nested groups? | 08:44 |
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| LarsErikP | group1 is granted _member_ in project1 - foo and bar is a member of group2, and group2 is a member of group1. foo and bar doesn't get access to project1 :( | 08:46 |
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| Tecumseh | Hi all, using ocata, can I shutdown the nova-compute service on a node without killing/shutting down the instances on that node? | 09:11 |
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| BloqueNegro | Tecumseh: afaik it will shutdown the nodes for you | 09:22 |
| BloqueNegro | so i assume no | 09:22 |
| Tecumseh | If I disable the nova service on a compute node from the controler, will the instances on that compute node be migrated/cloned to another compute node automagically? | 09:22 |
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| Tecumseh | BloqueNegro, I was afraid it would be so. | 09:23 |
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| BloqueNegro | let me check | 09:26 |
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| Tecumseh | I'm not using openstack's HA mode, btw. | 09:28 |
| BloqueNegro | Tecumseh: it looks like disabling the service will prevent spawning new instances on it | 09:28 |
| BloqueNegro | it will not even shut down the old vms | 09:28 |
| BloqueNegro | atleast thats the case on newton | 09:28 |
| Tecumseh | BloqueNegro, oh, nice. That's makes sense too. Libvirt and qemu managing the instances, the nova service should not really have an impact. Thx. | 09:29 |
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| BloqueNegro | well, now let me test for shutting down the compute agent | 09:30 |
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| BloqueNegro | huh, interesting | 09:32 |
| BloqueNegro | stopping the compute agent on a node will not stop the vms | 09:32 |
| BloqueNegro | makes sense, but interesting how sturdy openstack is | 09:32 |
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| Tecumseh | The nova service is just here for the communication with the controler in a way. The heavy lifting is down by libvirt/qemu which are totally independent. If I'm correct. | 09:34 |
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| BloqueNegro | from my experience with openstack, touching ANYTHING will break something | 09:36 |
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| BloqueNegro | maybe not the touched thing, and maybe not today... but it will break :') | 09:36 |
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| Tecumseh | ouch, not reassuring... I'm migrating my compute nodes /var/lib/nova to NFS shares before going into full production mode... | 09:39 |
| Tecumseh | so far, it's fine... but I dare not update openstack since the original install two months ago... on centos 7.1 | 09:40 |
| BloqueNegro | updating to ocata? | 09:40 |
| Tecumseh | yes | 09:40 |
| BloqueNegro | did my mitaka->newton update yesterday... jesus christ | 09:40 |
| asettle | :p | 09:41 |
| asettle | You did fineeeeee | 09:41 |
| Tecumseh | I'm more much into Gentoo ... Centos I don't trust that much... | 09:41 |
| BloqueNegro | running on ubuntu \o/ | 09:41 |
| asettle | Tecumseh: you should talk to prometheanfire - he's well into Gentoo | 09:41 |
| BloqueNegro | yeah, that's a good idea... taking the easy managable openstack and make it more easy by... compiling it yourself | 09:41 |
| BloqueNegro | i can only assume you are looking for an excuse for whisky at 8am ;) | 09:42 |
| BloqueNegro | (just fueling the os war a little bit, nothing serious <3) | 09:42 |
| Tecumseh | I test drove openstack on gentoo, wasn't an esay drive... but my prodcution env is a lot of centos now...snif | 09:43 |
| Tecumseh | vopenstack install is really nicely documented on centos | 09:43 |
| BloqueNegro | centos: when you are too cheap for redhat but don't want to make it too easy. alteast from my experience ;) | 09:43 |
| BloqueNegro | Tecumseh: tbh, the openstack docu got really great from mitaka. can say the same for ubuntu | 09:44 |
| BloqueNegro | atleast the install one. the upgrading one is rather vague | 09:44 |
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| Tecumseh | That's why I went full gentoo for many years when I had a choice ... upgrading does not break everything... but no choice here, Centos it is... | 09:47 |
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| Tecumseh | but no distro is perfect and each it's own qualities. Openstack on centos is doing a great job. | 09:49 |
| Tecumseh | *each has its* | 09:49 |
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| Tecumseh | It went fine, stopped service on node, copied nova subfolder to NFS share and restarted service. Solid as a rock. Thabks for the help. | 09:55 |
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| LarsErikP | https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1638603 well, if this actually works, why isn't it documented here: https://docs.openstack.org/newton/config-reference/identity/config-options.html | 10:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1638603 in OpenStack Identity (keystone) newton "Identity LDAP does not support AD nested groups" [Undecided,New] | 10:14 |
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| frickler | LarsErikP: seems like that config-reference didn't get rebuilt for 10.0.1, would you like to create a new bug for that? the option does get mentioned in the release notes: https://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/keystone/newton.html | 10:54 |
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| LarsErikP | frickler: yeah, i'll file a bug. Should that go to the openstack-manuals project? | 10:55 |
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| frickler | LarsErikP: I'd think so, yes | 10:57 |
| LarsErikP | good | 10:58 |
| LarsErikP | thanks :) | 10:58 |
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| klipka | does anybody know when nova DB is populated with NUMA topology from compute nodes? and what action needs to be done to trigger update or repopulate DB? | 11:35 |
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| Neepu | Hi. I'm about to create a small lab AIO deployment, where i'm able to backup and restore my setup. It doesn't really need to scale well, do you have any suggestions to which tools i may use? Is DevStack good enough for this purpose? | 12:26 |
| Neepu | Requirements are: 4-5 OS instances in compute service. | 12:27 |
| Neepu | + Ability to restore deployment | 12:27 |
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| Tecumseh | Do I need to install cinder on the controller node too? | 12:35 |
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| wanne | You have to run cInder API and cinder-scheduler somewhere | 12:37 |
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| Tecumseh | True | 12:39 |
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| egonzalez | Tecumseh, usually cinder-api and scheduler runs on controller nodes and cinder-volume in storage nodes | 12:54 |
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| Tecumseh | egonzalez, yes. thank you. It makes sense, but I just wanted to make sure. It's running fine. I'm creating my first volume in Dashboard right now. | 12:57 |
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| jmlowe | Has anybody had mtu problems with ocata, I had jumbo frames working just fine in newton, suddenly the tap interfaces in the hypervisors come up mtu 1500 when the network and global_phys_mtu and path_mtu are set to 9050 in neutron-server | 14:36 |
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| Tecumseh | Is there a way to force a flavour on to a running instance? Or just force a resize? | 15:04 |
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| herrsergio | Tecumseh: just with the resize | 15:09 |
| Tecumseh | it fails. complains about a flavor that no longer exists ... tried with instance running or shutdown, same result. | 15:11 |
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| Tecumseh | Another instance has the right flavor, but the flavor does appear in instance details. | 15:12 |
| Tecumseh | does *not appear | 15:13 |
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| herrsergio | Tecumseh: the output of "nova flavor-list" has the flavor you are looking ? | 15:16 |
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| Tecumseh | yes. | 15:16 |
| herrsergio | Tecumseh: and is public ? | 15:16 |
| Tecumseh | Yes | 15:17 |
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| herrsergio | Tecumseh: what are the messages in the logs? | 15:22 |
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| Tecumseh | HTTP exception thrown: Flavor 4c4da604-2096-4009-b507-d8106cb26f7f could not be found. | 15:26 |
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| Tecumseh | That's the old flavor, no longer attached to the instance. | 15:26 |
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| Tecumseh | no longer exists. | 15:28 |
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| Tecumseh | the instance has another flavor applied. | 15:28 |
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| herrsergio | Tecumseh: mmm weird, maybe if you check the nova database to see if the flavor was updated | 15:30 |
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| r3g3x_ | hi, i'm new openstack and looking to use it with a small lab. is it possible to make the controller a vm running on the compute node? | 15:31 |
| r3g3x_ | is there any real issue w/ doing so? | 15:31 |
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| Tecumseh | This ghost flavor is causing all resizes to fail. Weird indeed. | 15:34 |
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| Tecumseh | r3g3x_, it's possible, but your network is going to be more tricky and you might have issue with storage space for your instances - depending on how things are sized. | 15:42 |
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| r3g3x_ | Tecumseh: ah okay, the networking i think i could figure out. from just studying the architecture diagrams, i thought the actual storage for the instances was on the compute node itself and only management/databases was on the controller. | 15:46 |
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| setuid | r3g3x_: You need to cache and store the images somewhere too | 15:47 |
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| r3g3x_ | setuid: makes sense, i guess i need to read some more about the different services | 15:51 |
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| Tecumseh | r3g3x_, this need not be a prob id your controller VM is big enough and your images are small enough.Else, use NFS or something to store your instances. Glance and /var/lib/glance for image management. | 15:53 |
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| r3g3x_ | Tecumseh: thanks. that sounds easy to set up and i could mount that from the compute. | 15:58 |
| mariusv | heya, is there a way to list all the security groups allowing any to any and the VMs attached to them? | 15:59 |
| Tecumseh | r3g3x_, indeed. Good luck. | 15:59 |
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| darinavbt | setuid, are you around? | 16:43 |
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| darinavbt | Does anyone here have experience with setting up OpenStack using Ubuntu Autopilot? I'm having some issues | 17:10 |
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| gheorghe_ | hey darinavbt | 17:13 |
| darinavbt | Hi | 17:13 |
| gheorghe_ | did you just try conjure-up nova-lxd? | 17:13 |
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| darinavbt | No. I followed the instructions at https://www.ubuntu.com/download/cloud/autopilot | 17:13 |
| darinavbt | Basically, set up MAAS (which seems fully successful), then use conjure-up for Landscape | 17:14 |
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| gheorghe_ | oh, ok. sorry, never tried that. i tried the conjure-up and that failed for me. i guess you want this for a production environment and not for testing | 17:14 |
| darinavbt | Well, this IS a testing environment. But if it works, yeah, I'd use the same process to spin up a production environment. | 17:15 |
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| gheorghe_ | When you get it done, please tell me how it went. I am atm trying to learn ubuntu Openstack coming from vmware. | 17:19 |
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| darinavbt | Well, so far, I'm considering blowing it away and reinstalling for the third time. :P | 17:20 |
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| darinavbt | We'd like to use Autopilot because we'd sign up for Ubuntu support, etc. But if I can't get it installed and working, then we'd just install OpenStack manually, which would suck. | 17:21 |
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| gheorghe_ | i am installing it manually atm to understand how the flow works. but if your company wants to pay for support, just ask ubuntu to help you with autopilot | 17:24 |
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| gheorghe_ | it's 100% worth it. my company wants to switch to openstack from vmware | 17:25 |
| darinavbt | Yeah, we're trying to consolidate both Xen and VMWare stuff into something more scalable | 17:26 |
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| darinavbt | Well, good luck. I'm going to keep pounding on it for a bit. | 17:27 |
| gheorghe_ | GL | 17:27 |
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| gheorghe_ | i am going through the openstack tutorials now and i found the following bug: glance will fail because it can not import memcached. it gets solved by using apt install python-memcached | 17:40 |
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| gheorghe_ | i am using ocata | 17:41 |
| gheorghe_ | on ubuntu 16.04 | 17:41 |
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| SamYaple | gheorghe_: you are welcome to submit a patch for that | 18:29 |
| SamYaple | though i think python-memcached will get pulled in with the keystone stuff | 18:30 |
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| gheorghe_ | it didn't get pulled. how do i submit a patch? | 18:30 |
| gheorghe_ | and the package is python-memcache (no d) | 18:31 |
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| SamYaple | gheorghe_: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/How_To_Contribute#If_you.27re_a_developer | 18:33 |
| SamYaple | gheorghe_: that said.... python-keystone pulls in python-memcache | 18:33 |
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| gheorghe_ | SamYaple: i said glance, not keystone. keystone indeed pulls python-memcache, but glance does not | 18:39 |
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| SamYaple | gheorghe_: the guide has a specific layout for your "controller" nodes and a specific ordering. if you follow it, the guide works and is not a bug | 18:53 |
| SamYaple | it is not a per service guide | 18:54 |
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| gheorghe_ | SamYaple: i know. that doesn't change the fact that if you install glance on a separate vm/container, you will not get python-memcache along with it :D | 18:55 |
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| gheorghe_ | SamYaple: if you deploy all services on the same VM, can you use unix socket instead of TCP socket for communication between services? to eliminate the TCP overhead | 18:56 |
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| SamYaple | no | 18:59 |
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| eltimo | Hey, I'm trying to do an all-in-one install with packstack on Fedora 25, but it keeps crashing with Error: Evaluation Error: Error while evaluating a Function Call, Not sure what Redis version is avaliable upstream on your release: 25 at /var/tmp/packstack/b93da5ee50e24618825675ca67455482/modules/redis/manifests/params.pp:205:11 on node | 23:41 |
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| eltimo | Installing redis manually doesn't seem to help, not that I expected it to. I'm kind of at a loss, since Google can't even find the exact error. | 23:46 |
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