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| brianthelion | Anyone know status on pbr? Is it being deprecated? | 01:00 |
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| brianthelion | bugs on launchpad are piling up and there appear to be some pretty glaring issues | 01:01 |
| brianthelion | i don't want to adopt it if it's going away | 01:01 |
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| SamYaple | brianthelion: can you point to an issue yo ufind glaring? | 01:03 |
| brianthelion | For one, it's not passing dependency_links | 01:04 |
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| SamYaple | yea i just dont think the launchpad is well maintained. pbr is used everywhere by every project in openstack | 01:12 |
| SamYaple | if there is a major issue file a bug and submit a patch | 01:12 |
| SamYaple | but the gate is testing things 1000's of times a day, so it must be working ok for what its used for | 01:13 |
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| brianthelion | SamYaple: Another thing is that pip allows you to use relative paths (like "../foo") in requirements.txt but pbr is trying to pass those on to setup(install_requires=[...]), which is causing that to blow up | 01:31 |
| SamYaple | brianthelion: pbrs whole purpose in life is to do a few oddities like that, so none of this is shocking to me. im not even sure it consitutes a bug | 01:32 |
| brianthelion | one of big selling points is that it's supposed to look at the requirements.txt and do the Right Thing | 01:34 |
| brianthelion | if it doesn't handle cases like that, i'm not sure what the point is | 01:35 |
| SamYaple | brianthelion: relative paths are not something that would be used with the projects using pbr. its not shocking that it doesnt work | 01:36 |
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| brianthelion | SamYaple: it's also failing on file:/// urls in the requirements.txt | 01:43 |
| brianthelion | vanilla pip consumes them just fine | 01:44 |
| SamYaple | again, given what PBR was trying to solve, any local based packages are a no-go. so this is unsuprising | 01:44 |
| brianthelion | these limitations should AT LEAST be documented somewhere | 01:48 |
| SamYaple | if they are even aware of them | 01:49 |
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| SamYaple | a bug and a patch will get you the best response | 01:49 |
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| ryan_turner | Hi, I have some applications that I want to run in a HA fashion across multiple regions. Each space I have 2+ servers and they're interconnected by network generally slower than 100 mbps. Right now I manually provision things and handle clustering/HA on a case by case basis, and I run apps one per VM. These are like recursive DNS, NTP, Asterisk, and then some less popular software. I'd like to know if I'd be able to leverage ope | 03:34 |
| ryan_turner | I'm interested in re-engineering everything at this point. | 03:34 |
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| ryan_turner | Oh and one last point: one of my objectives is to maintain availability at each region. So essentially I want each region to have it's own HA environment. | 03:35 |
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| ryan_turner | Right now I'm thinking that I should try something like kubernetes + juju + openstack. | 03:36 |
| SamYaple | you can always leverage openstack. but do you *want* to. in this case, given the information youve given me, i would think not | 03:36 |
| SamYaple | if you only have ~2 servers per region thats not really enough | 03:37 |
| ryan_turner | That's what I suspected. | 03:37 |
| SamYaple | you can, of course, co-locate controller and compute, but its not generally recommended | 03:37 |
| SamYaple | controller and compute services* | 03:38 |
| ryan_turner | My leases generally don't give me enough power to do more metal | 03:38 |
| ryan_turner | I get ~ 1200 watts per region, so a few gen 7 or gen 8 servers and I quickly run out | 03:38 |
| SamYaple | what is it you want to achieve? | 03:38 |
| SamYaple | just better provisioning so its not manual? | 03:39 |
| ryan_turner | My concern at this point is easier maintenance/less surprise | 03:39 |
| SamYaple | i might suggest ansible or saltstack to handle that concern for you | 03:39 |
| ryan_turner | I want people with less organization-specific knowledge to be able to help | 03:39 |
| ryan_turner | yeah, I have ansible playbooks for just about everything at this point | 03:39 |
| SamYaple | well you can certainly run openstack in a space that small. no doubt about it. but youll be consuming your already tiny amount of resouces runing openstack to manage very few resources | 03:40 |
| ryan_turner | Most of my resources sit idle today | 03:41 |
| SamYaple | me personally, i dont see a massive benefit unless you already have alot of openstack knowledge in the company | 03:41 |
| ryan_turner | yeah, no openstack knowledge | 03:41 |
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| ryan_turner | It's all volunteer time, nonprofit hobby/club | 03:41 |
| SamYaple | i hate to dissuade people from using openstack, but this doesnt seem like the best bet | 03:41 |
| ryan_turner | That seems to be what I've found for most angles too :) | 03:41 |
| SamYaple | youll still have to troubleshoot the applications, but then youll also have the overhead of managing openstack on top of it | 03:41 |
| ryan_turner | yeah | 03:41 |
| SamYaple | saltstack is actually great for this kind of thing | 03:42 |
| ryan_turner | I *almost* was able to get all of my stuff running within docker engine swarm | 03:42 |
| SamYaple | more so than ansible in my opinion | 03:42 |
| ryan_turner | Eh? | 03:42 |
| SamYaple | you heard of saltstack yes? | 03:42 |
| ryan_turner | (I've been doing some loadbalancing/HA using anycast, and figuring that out within docker swarm was a PITA) | 03:42 |
| ryan_turner | Yes | 03:42 |
| ryan_turner | I have no experience though | 03:43 |
| SamYaple | i see | 03:43 |
| SamYaple | yea sounds like ansible is where the experince lies, it might be the best for you | 03:43 |
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| ryan_turner | Thanks for the advice SamYaple | 03:44 |
| ryan_turner | When would you say the nodes/region start to make sense? | 03:45 |
| ryan_turner | (to use something like Openstack) | 03:45 |
| SamYaple | i dont personally like running my control services as compute nodes for several reasons. so that means I would want no less than 2 dedicated control nodes (for HA) and at least 2 computes | 03:46 |
| SamYaple | so that starts you out at 4 nodes with only 2 compute resouses | 03:46 |
| jidar | that's even pushing it | 03:46 |
| SamYaple | yea, most do 3 node control planes for services that need quorum | 03:47 |
| jidar | ie: db | 03:47 |
| ryan_turner | Yep, makes sense | 03:47 |
| jidar | queues | 03:47 |
| SamYaple | jidar: not queues | 03:47 |
| SamYaple | just galera | 03:47 |
| SamYaple | and you can do ha mysql with 2 nodes (not galera) | 03:47 |
| jidar | I've seen rabbit get pretty pissy over only having two nodes | 03:47 |
| ryan_turner | I'm not accustomed to these things at this scale. At work I play with hundreds of nodes in one place... the volunteer stuff has forced a totally different angle heh | 03:47 |
| SamYaple | rabbitmq has no concept of quorum | 03:47 |
| ryan_turner | (It's an experimental wireless ISP, so we focus more on network connectivity but some basic services need to exist at each PoP) | 03:48 |
| SamYaple | there is also no garuntee that the queues have all the same message in rabbitmq | 03:48 |
| SamYaple | ryan_turner: you might be able to do something with k8s... but personally i would stick with ansible orchestration to launch docker containers (no swarm) | 03:49 |
| jidar | having one out of 2 or 3 queues missing does not make a happy openstack | 03:49 |
| jidar | I never mentioned quorum | 03:49 |
| ryan_turner | Yeah Swarm was something I needed to learn for work, so I tried to force it everywhere I could | 03:49 |
| jidar | I'm just speaking to HA in general | 03:49 |
| SamYaple | jidar: you said "ie: db, queues" when we wre talking about services needed quorum | 03:49 |
| ryan_turner | running quagga inside swarm was odd. | 03:49 |
| jidar | you're the one mentioned quorum, but whatever | 03:50 |
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| SamYaple | ryan_turner: yea you have to do some funky stuff sometimes to get services working | 03:50 |
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| ryan_turner | SamYaple: I dont know enough about k8s really to understand what problems it solves | 03:51 |
| SamYaple | its really meant for large scale too thoguh | 03:52 |
| ryan_turner | but hey that's a different channel :) | 03:52 |
| ryan_turner | yeah, that's the gist of what I get. Part of this though is using tech that is useful to learn about. If it doesnt get in the way and we get to learn something by adopting it, that's a win. | 03:52 |
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| ldl | hi, friends | 07:31 |
| ldl | who have got this issue? | 07:31 |
| ldl | https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/109435/info-novaconsoleauthmanager-req-db1e6559-91c4-4412-b908-c323aae1161a-checking-token-bb41fdbe-5cf3-4627-9ba1-7d48849caf22-false/ | 07:31 |
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| ldl | who know this issue? | 08:33 |
| ldl | https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/109445/the-interfaces-of-the-router-status-is-build-why-not-active/ | 08:33 |
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| ldl | friends ,whats meaning of the distributed when I neutron router-list | 12:07 |
| ldl | https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/109449/what-is-the-meaning-of-distributed-when-i-list-the-routers-in-the-neutron/ | 12:07 |
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| blade2 | ciao | 12:28 |
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| ldl | hi, everyone. who can help me with this? | 15:26 |
| ldl | https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/109451/one-of-the-interface-is-build-not-active-others-ha-node2-and-ha-node3-all-are-active/ | 15:26 |
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| MadOtis | Hello, all... I just set up openstack-dashboard and I'm getting an error after a successful login. Web page shows the "Something went wrong" page, and I get this paste (http://paste.openstack.org/show/617614/) in my apache2 error.log... | 18:17 |
| MadOtis | I've verified that memcached is running, and double-checked my configuration... any suggestions on where to look? | 18:17 |
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| SamYaple | MadOtis: if you eenable debug in the local_settings.py it may give you more info. but with that particular issue it does look like its not able to talk ot memcache. | 18:19 |
| raynold | ahh it's a wonderful day | 18:19 |
| SamYaple | can you post your local_setting config? | 18:19 |
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| MadOtis | apologies... I'm doing the Ubuntu install how-to using Newton release. | 18:24 |
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| MadOtis | SamYaple: Thanks, I'll try enabling debug; both netstat show memcached listening on port 11211 and "service memcached status" show it running. | 18:26 |
| MadOtis | WOW... I don't even know where to start looking at all this output! | 18:29 |
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| MadOtis | ok... my bad... I just realized I never changed the -l param in memcached.conf to allow connections from anything other than 127.0.0.1 | 18:35 |
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| MadOtis | Hey, all... I'm installing Cinder on an Ubuntu stack using Newton release. I think I have everything configured correctly and cinder-volume starts successfully on my block storage node. However, on the controller node, when doing a volume storage list, it shows cinder-volume with a status of "down"... any clues where I need to start looking? | 20:32 |
| gunix | MadOtis: did you try to restart services on target and on controller? | 20:33 |
| SamYaple | MadOtis: rabbitmq is how it communicates that it is "up" so check the cinder-volume logs | 20:33 |
| MadOtis | gunix: Yes | 20:33 |
| MadOtis | ok | 20:33 |
| gunix | wanted to write more but what SamYaple said is gold | 20:33 |
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| MadOtis | Hmmm... transport_url is set properly in the [DEFAULT] section, yet the logs say: "AMQP server on 127.0.0.1:5672 is unreachable: [Errno 111] ECONNREFUSED. Trying again in 30 seconds. Client port: None" | 20:34 |
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| MadOtis | ...[default] section of the block storage node, and service WAS restarted, yet I get the same message if I restart yet again. | 20:35 |
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| gunix | MadOtis: do grep -r "127.0.0.1:5672" /etc/ | 20:36 |
| MadOtis | ok | 20:36 |
| gunix | that will show you where the setting is | 20:36 |
| gunix | so you know where to change and add the proper IP | 20:37 |
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| MadOtis | Not showing up at all... | 20:37 |
| MadOtis | root@blockstorage1:~# grep -r "127.0.0.1:5672" /etc/ root@blockstorage1:~# | 20:37 |
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| gunix | hmmm | 20:38 |
| gunix | MadOtis: do grep -r "transport_url" /etc/ | 20:39 |
| gunix | i guess that is not configured | 20:39 |
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| gunix | should be transport_url = rabbit://openstack:RABBIT_PASS@controller | 20:39 |
| gunix | in /etc/cinder/cinder.conf | 20:40 |
| gunix | link: https://docs.openstack.org/newton/install-guide-ubuntu/cinder-storage-install.html | 20:40 |
| MadOtis | if I do the same but replace "127.0.0.1" with "controller", I get this: /etc/cinder/cinder.conf:transport_url = rabbit://openstack:########@controller | 20:40 |
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| MadOtis | ..in the DEFAULT section, correct? | 20:41 |
| gunix | you don't have an IP. also, make sure /etc/hosts is populated with the IP of the controller | 20:44 |
| MadOtis | odd... I restarted again, a few times, and now I'm not getting the error about rabbit, but it's still showing as "down" in the volume storage list. Here's a paste of the last few restarts from the log: http://paste.openstack.org/show/617615/ | 20:45 |
| gunix | MadOtis: yes, tutorial says in the default section | 20:45 |
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| MadOtis | if I ping controller from the block storage node, it resolves successfully to the correct IP address | 20:46 |
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| gunix | lsblk, pvs, lvs, vgs are all ok ? | 20:48 |
| gunix | i guess your target has LVM ? | 20:48 |
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| MadOtis | http://paste.openstack.org/show/617616/ . <-- paste of full cinder.conf from block storage node, and a few other outpus | 20:49 |
| MadOtis | http://paste.openstack.org/show/617617/ <-- output from lsblk, vgs, pvs, lvs | 20:51 |
| gunix | MadOtis: do "ss -tlnp" with root rights. also, "vgs" please | 20:51 |
| gunix | oh you did vgs, nvm | 20:51 |
| MadOtis | http://paste.openstack.org/show/617618/ <- "ss -lntp" | 20:52 |
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| gunix | damn man this looks good | 20:53 |
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| gunix | go on controller and do "nc -zv 10.11.138.91 3260" | 20:54 |
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| gunix | though i doubt that is it | 20:54 |
| MadOtis | Connection to 10.11.138.91 3260 port [tcp/iscsi-target] succeeded! | 20:54 |
| gunix | so no firewall | 20:55 |
| MadOtis | correcy | 20:55 |
| MadOtis | correct* | 20:55 |
| gunix | this might bit a long shot | 20:55 |
| gunix | but can you try to create a volume? | 20:55 |
| MadOtis | I can sure try... worst that can happen is it fails | 20:56 |
| gunix | and if it fails you might get extra logs | 20:57 |
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| MadOtis | no joy: http://paste.openstack.org/show/617619/ | 20:58 |
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| gunix | MadOtis: i went multiple times thourgh the config and i found nothing wrong, just some stuff i can't vouch for, like volume_name_template = volume-%s | 20:59 |
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| gunix | grep bffd5f28-5770-48a6-ad74-c80952dd49d1 /var/log | 20:59 |
| gunix | on controller | 20:59 |
| gunix | grep -r bffd5f28-5770-48a6-ad74-c80952dd49d1 /var/log | 20:59 |
| gunix | forgot the recursive | 20:59 |
| MadOtis | volume_name_template was in the original conf file after the apt install, so I left it alone since the tutorial didn't specifically mention removing it. | 21:00 |
| gunix | oh ok | 21:00 |
| MadOtis | Hmmm... I may need to look at lvm.conf: /var/log/cinder/cinder-scheduler.log:2017-08-06 00:00:36.434 16199 INFO cinder.scheduler.base_filter [req-92b946e6-6e82-44f6-8801-23efecd171f5 c12f340cfa4f45429c2fc84eed425149 44cae84c8a8e4521af47865173267ec5 - default default] Filtering removed all hosts for the request with volume ID 'bffd5f28-5770-48a6-ad74-c80952dd49d1'. Filter results: AvailabilityZoneFilter: (start: 0, end: 0), Capacit | 21:01 |
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| gunix | i can check my config but it's ocata | 21:01 |
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| SamYaple | MadOtis: can you check which version of cinder is installed? `dpkg -l | grep cinder` | 21:08 |
| MadOtis | 2:9.1.4-0ubuntu1~cloud0 | 21:09 |
| MadOtis | all 3 match (cinder-common, cinder-volume, and python-cinder) | 21:09 |
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| MadOtis | ...same version of all cinder components on the controller, too. | 21:11 |
| SamYaple | MadOtis: yea no problem just checking. people often forget to add cloud-archive | 21:11 |
| SamYaple | ok. clear your cinder logs, turn on debug=True, and restart cinder-volume and paste that entire file | 21:12 |
| MadOtis | ok, one sec... | 21:12 |
| SamYaple | you wont be able to use cinder-volume at all until it shows 'up' | 21:12 |
| SamYaple | so thats where we want to focus | 21:13 |
| gunix | MadOtis & SamYaple when you figure this out, please say gunix so i can check this tomorrow when i wake up. i am curious what's wrong there | 21:13 |
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| SamYaple | gunix: rabbitmq. its always rabitmq | 21:14 |
| MadOtis | http://paste.openstack.org/show/617620/ | 21:14 |
| MadOtis | Should I worry about the Guru Meditation? | 21:14 |
| SamYaple | no | 21:15 |
| gunix | SamYaple: that was a troll, right? :) | 21:15 |
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| SamYaple | no it really is always rabbitmq | 21:15 |
| MadOtis | crap... my bad... I forgot to enable debug. | 21:15 |
| SamYaple | yup | 21:15 |
| SamYaple | lol | 21:15 |
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| MadOtis | this one should be much more fulfilling... http://paste.openstack.org/show/617621/ | 21:18 |
| gunix | you are right. this is great. SamYaple, good luck analysing it.! | 21:19 |
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| gunix | :))) | 21:19 |
| MadOtis | only 299 lines? Ugh! | 21:20 |
| SamYaple | yea looks like it truncated | 21:20 |
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| MadOtis | here's the rest: http://paste.openstack.org/show/617622/ | 21:22 |
| SamYaple | ok. so its definetely talking to _a_ rabbitmq server | 21:24 |
| SamYaple | can you confirm that you do not have a rabbitmq server running on the cinder-volume node? | 21:24 |
| MadOtis | Yep, confirmed: root@blockstorage1:~# ps -ef | grep rabbit root 11852 5657 0 00:25 pts/1 00:00:00 grep --color=auto rabbit | 21:25 |
| SamYaple | so its talking to the scheduler, but the scheduler is not saying it is up | 21:26 |
| SamYaple | start chcekin the scheudler logs | 21:26 |
| MadOtis | The only ERROR I get in cinder-scheduler.log are the two volumes I tried to create: root@controller:~# cat /var/log/cinder/cinder-scheduler.log | grep ERROR 2017-08-06 00:00:36.461 16199 ERROR cinder.scheduler.flows.create_volume [req-92b946e6-6e82-44f6-8801-23efecd171f5 c12f340cfa4f45429c2fc84eed425149 44cae84c8a8e4521af47865173267ec5 - default default] Failed to run task cinder.scheduler.flows.create_volume.ScheduleCreateVolumeT | 21:28 |
| MadOtis | ...found. No weighed hosts available | 21:29 |
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| gunix | what is a "weighed" host? | 21:32 |
| MadOtis | I'm too new to OpenStack to be able to answer that. I'm just regurgitating output. :) | 21:32 |
| gunix | why does it want to create a volume when you already have a volume? | 21:34 |
| gunix | hmm wait no you have a volume group | 21:34 |
| MadOtis | I deleted the volumes after they showed up in "error" state | 21:35 |
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| gunix | MadOtis: can you paste the weighed hosts error? | 21:35 |
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| MadOtis | ?? No volume group? I did the vgcreate step which resulted in success, and vgscan says "cinder-volumes" exists and is using lvm2 | 21:36 |
| MadOtis | gunix: 2017-08-06 00:09:08.543 16199 ERROR cinder.scheduler.flows.create_volume [req-29b018f1-542d-46d3-8d7a-e5b91ac6aed2 c12f340cfa4f45429c2fc84eed425149 44cae84c8a8e4521af47865173267ec5 - default default] Failed to run task cinder.scheduler.flows.create_volume.ScheduleCreateVolumeTask;volume:create: No valid host was found. No weighed hosts available | 21:37 |
| gunix | MadOtis: you alreadyhave a volume group | 21:38 |
| gunix | MadOtis: that error is half an hour old | 21:39 |
| MadOtis | thats the last time I tried it | 21:39 |
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| gunix | i guess you already checked this: https://www.google.ro/search?q=No+valid+host+was+found.+No+weighed+hosts+available&oq=No+valid+host+was+found.+No+weighed+hosts+available&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l4.5636j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 | 21:41 |
| gunix | btw where are you from? it's 9 am there? | 21:41 |
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| gunix | 161.181.53.34 United States Iowa Cedar Rapids damn | 21:41 |
| gunix | hmm MadOtis https://docs.openstack.org/mitaka/install-guide-ubuntu/cinder-controller-install.html | 21:43 |
| gunix | did you create all services? | 21:43 |
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| MadOtis | openstack service list shows 2 volume services: volume and volumev2 | 21:45 |
| gunix | hmm on ocata i have volumev2 and volumev3 | 21:46 |
| MadOtis | And I'm in Seattle, but VPN'd in to work using webchat... I'm most assuredly NOT in Iowa! :) | 21:47 |
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| gunix | :D | 21:47 |
| gunix | i am from eastern europe and it's 1am here. i will go to sleep | 21:47 |
| gunix | i am still curious what is wrong with your config, though it's newton and i will probably never use it (i am on ocata) | 21:47 |
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| prs0704 | hello there | 21:48 |
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| MadOtis | yeah, I'll upgrade as soon as i can get it all working | 21:48 |
| gunix | MadOtis: is that a prod environment? because if it's not, it would make more sence to me to start with ocata and forget about newton | 21:49 |
| MadOtis | POC environment. and only using newton because that is what the tutorial shows | 21:49 |
| gunix | there is a tutorial for ocata and it works great, i have a POC at home with ocata on ubuntu 16.04 | 21:50 |
| gunix | https://docs.openstack.org/ocata/install-guide-ubuntu/ | 21:50 |
| MadOtis | hmmm... let me start over... ;) | 21:51 |
| gunix | MadOtis: i did about 3-4 times before i got it right, but it was worth it. no pain, no gain. | 21:52 |
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| MadOtis | exactly! thats why I'm ok starting over. | 21:52 |
| MadOtis | Once I get all this working, I want to "Terraform" it, so it can be done automagically. | 21:53 |
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| gunix | MadOtis: i have tons of scripts to get ocata running really fast | 22:10 |
| gunix | MadOtis: if you want, i can share. passwords are default anyway | 22:10 |
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| MadOtis | gunix: Hmmm... that could simplify some things, I'm sure. | 22:10 |
| gunix | MadOtis: they are made so you can "echo script.sh | ssh controller bash" | 22:11 |
| gunix | well "echo script.sh | ssh root@controller bash" | 22:11 |
| gunix | some scripts for compute, some for neutron | 22:12 |
| gunix | hmm well now that i think about it, i don't think someone else will get what i did there | 22:12 |
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| MadOtis | ...I'm spinning up 4 new VMs now, so some scripts would help. I'm still working on how to terraform some of the install aspects that the scripts could help identify. | 22:12 |
| gunix | ok, give me some sort of e-mail | 22:13 |
| gunix | or facebook linkedin something | 22:13 |
| gunix | where i can send | 22:14 |
| MadOtis | gunix: rcobb1@gmail.com | 22:14 |
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| gunix | you look 45 lol | 22:17 |
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| MadOtis | I'm 55, actually | 22:18 |
| * MadOtis = old fart | 22:18 | |
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| gunix | MadOtis: that congrats on still working as an engineer at 55. most people switch at 30 to management. i hope i will still be a linux engineer at your age ... if linux survives that long. | 22:20 |
| MadOtis | I did my time in management. I hated it. I'm much more of a hands-on person. | 22:20 |
| MadOtis | ...and it will... linux is rock-solid for most REAL business applications. | 22:21 |
| gunix | MadOtis: did you get my e-mail? | 22:21 |
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| MadOtis | gunix: Yep, thank you, sir! I'll share my Terraform scripts when I get them done, in reciprocity if you wish. | 22:23 |
| gunix | MadOtis: please do. i will go to sleep now. it's 1:24 am here | 22:24 |
| gunix | good luck with your work | 22:24 |
| MadOtis | Thanks again! I sure will! | 22:24 |
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