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| SamYaple | BenderRodriguez: surely you know i was joking | 00:08 |
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| SamYaple | DeHackEd: and also no humor apprently! | 00:10 |
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| BenderRodriguez | well | 00:14 |
| BenderRodriguez | I keep getting permission denied when doing keystone-manage fernet_setup | 00:14 |
| BenderRodriguez | on the log file | 00:14 |
| BenderRodriguez | which is good because even trying to run keystone-manage as root fails to be able to write to the log file | 00:15 |
| BenderRodriguez | contained in /var/log/keystone directories | 00:15 |
| SamYaple | do you have a full filesystem | 00:15 |
| BenderRodriguez | nope, it's a fresh VM, 50GB disk space | 00:15 |
| BenderRodriguez | I'm spinning each component in its own VM | 00:16 |
| SamYaple | out of inodes? | 00:16 |
| BenderRodriguez | so keystone is separate from the rest of the controller | 00:16 |
| SamYaple | im basically trying to see if you can write any files out | 00:16 |
| BenderRodriguez | oh yeah I can | 00:16 |
| BenderRodriguez | I/O works fine | 00:16 |
| SamYaple | cool | 00:16 |
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| SamYaple | ok can you give me a stacktrace of the keystone-manage fernet_setup failure? | 00:17 |
| SamYaple | paste.openstack.org please | 00:17 |
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| SamYaple | might help to run it as `keystone-manage -d fernet_setup` | 00:17 |
| BenderRodriguez | SamYaple: http://paste.openstack.org/show/khpb7vcwR6W6RUqtkpAY/ | 00:19 |
| BenderRodriguez | oh | 00:20 |
| BenderRodriguez | I didn't notice the new permission error | 00:20 |
| BenderRodriguez | again though, I'm running it as root | 00:20 |
| BenderRodriguez | why would it run to permission error | 00:20 |
| SamYaple | BenderRodriguez: im assuming /etc/keystone/fernet-keys is owned by root | 00:20 |
| SamYaple | your use and group are osc, so that directory should be owned by osc | 00:20 |
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| SamYaple | i would point out though, keystone typically runs as user 'keystone', so im not sure where this osc user is coming from | 00:21 |
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| BenderRodriguez | hmm | 00:30 |
| BenderRodriguez | it's just a user I created | 00:30 |
| BenderRodriguez | it shouldn't matter though right | 00:30 |
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| BenderRodriguez | should it? | 00:30 |
| SamYaple | BenderRodriguez: well the service has a defined used if you are using a packaged version | 00:31 |
| SamYaple | and that user is what is being used to run the service | 00:31 |
| SamYaple | so that use needs to access those keys | 00:31 |
| SamYaple | your osc user does *not* need access to those keys | 00:31 |
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| BenderRodriguez | hmm I see a keystone user does exist | 00:33 |
| BenderRodriguez | so should I regenerate these keys once more | 00:33 |
| BenderRodriguez | as the keystone user? | 00:33 |
| SamYaple | BenderRodriguez: just change the ownership | 00:37 |
| SamYaple | this is a filesystem level permissions issue, nothing more | 00:37 |
| SamYaple | no fancy openstack magic (yet) | 00:38 |
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| BenderRodriguez | Right but installing keystone with a user other than "keystone" should be fine right? | 00:39 |
| BenderRodriguez | So long these file permission issues are resolved | 00:40 |
| SamYaple | BenderRodriguez: im not sure what you are getting at, but if you installed packages you shouldn't be fiddling with the users | 00:40 |
| SamYaple | the service will run as keystone, just expect that | 00:41 |
| SamYaple | and set the permissiosn accordingly | 00:41 |
| BenderRodriguez | hmm | 00:41 |
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| BenderRodriguez | I think I just need to step back and understand what keystone-manage does, what fernet does and why I have to specify --keystone-user and --keystone-group as option | 00:41 |
| BenderRodriguez | if it expects that the service would be running as the pre-generated "keystone" user | 00:42 |
| BenderRodriguez | a lot of detail is missing in the installation docs | 00:42 |
| SamYaple | this is a packaging thing | 00:42 |
| SamYaple | just like most packages create thier own user and groups, thats whats happening here | 00:42 |
| SamYaple | keystone-manage fernet_setup just sets up fernet tokens, nothing crazy | 00:43 |
| SamYaple | the user and group you provide is just to assign file-system level permsisions (im not sure if it drops privs to generate the tokens, or just chowns after the fact) | 00:43 |
| SamYaple | if you want to do your own users for whatever reason, i would highly recommend installing from source | 00:44 |
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| Srinivas | hi all, i am facing this while runnning jobs in jenkins, " ERROR! Unexpected Exception: 'module' object has no attribute '_vendor'" any one knows this issue | 03:19 |
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| phani | Is there anything i am missing | 06:11 |
| phani | Please help me | 06:12 |
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| Tengu | I think I stumbled on some bug in the python-openstackclient - is it the right place to discuss that? | 09:41 |
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| Jason1999 | hello | 13:17 |
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| brad[] | what is the default value of scheduler_host_subset_size in nova.conf? | 13:25 |
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| MasterofJOKers | brad[], look in the config reference (https://docs.openstack.org/ocata/config-reference/compute/config-options.html) for host_subset_size (seems to have been renamed/moved for ocata) | 13:39 |
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| MasterofJOKers | link for pike https://docs.openstack.org/nova/pike/configuration/config.html#filter_scheduler.host_subset_size | 13:41 |
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| Tengu | gunix: ah, I opened an issue on launchpad. 2s, I find it back. | 13:45 |
| Tengu | gunix: https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+bug/1723054 | 13:46 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1723054 in python-openstackclient "json output doesn't always output proper JSON" [Undecided,New] | 13:46 |
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| brad[] | MasterofJOKers: Thanks! | 13:49 |
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| ishanjain28 | Hi, I am really interested in working on Container related projects for openstack. I am also interested in applying to outreachy as I saw that openstack listed Go and Containes related work there. I've looked on github and bugzilla and I could not find any container related project written in go. I tried asking about any golang projects in openstack in the openstack-golang channel but I did not received a response. | 18:09 |
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| ishanjain28 | I want to know if there are any active container related projects in Go and where can I find them. | 18:10 |
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| thingee | ishanjain28: the stance from a governance point of view with the OpenStack community has fairly recently started accepting go as an additional language with python and javascript. So besides test branches, I don't think you'll find any "service" related OpenStack project written in go. | 19:14 |
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| thingee | ishanjain28: there maybe some random stuff out there on github, but nothing I readily know from the openstack repos at git.openstack.org. we just use github as a mirror fyi. | 19:16 |
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| thingee | ishanjain28: we are needing help in making transitions to go though. We start a testing interface document for go, as we've done with our other accepted langauges https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/cti/golang_cti.html | 19:16 |
| thingee | ishanjain28: also welcome to the community! :) | 19:16 |
| thingee | ishanjain28: you can see our related container projects by search from this list https://www.openstack.org/software/project-navigator/ | 19:19 |
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| ishanjain28 | Thanks @thingee. The governance link is really helpful. | 19:21 |
| ishanjain28 | So, I guess I'll just skip outreachy and start working on any go related project that openstack starts. | 19:22 |
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| ishanjain28 | I built and ran cinder and nova's source code because those project are super interesting to me but Python is not some thing I would want to work on for 10-11 weeks. | 19:23 |
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| thingee | ishanjain28: the object storage project swift project has a dev branch rewriting things from python to go. I can dig up the thread if you're really interested, but having better thread control with disk reads or something like that. | 19:25 |
| thingee | ishanjain28: last I heard the effort has stalled, so they would probably be interested in some helping, but not sure what you can set as a goal for 10-11 weeks. It's a big effort. | 19:25 |
| thingee | ishanjain28: you could also work on an OpenStack Go SDK. That would allow you to work with OpenStack from an API pov and not having to touch the python parts. | 19:27 |
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| thingee | ishanjain28: I'm sure there is an existing go sdk that could use help and updating with the latest OpenStack API features. Might be something more suited in the time you're looking to put in. | 19:28 |
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| ishanjain28 | I was searching for Go projects in openstack github couple of days ago. And I found https://github.com/openstack/golang-client but This repository's bugzilla doesn't looks active. So I wasn't sure what to do. | 19:30 |
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| thingee | ishanjain28: contact the maintainer of the project and see if they can fix the bugzilla problem. if they don't respond back after some time or they're not interested in maintaining the project anymore, you can fork it and be a maintainer. :) | 19:31 |
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| ishanjain28 | About the swift rewrite, It's interesting problem to work on but I am not very good with making optimizations like that so I'll need some mentoring/help and I can work on it. | 19:42 |
| ishanjain28 | I could not find any dev branch in swift project on github. I would love to see the existing code.. :) | 19:43 |
| tdasilva | ishanjain28: https://github.com/openstack/swift/tree/feature/hummingbird | 19:44 |
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| colby_ | Hey Everyone, We are seeing some very strange behavior in our ocata setup. We just upgraded recently and now we are occasionally seeing: Neutron client was not able to generate a valid admin token, please verify Neutron admin credential located in nova.conf issues, and in keystone we are seeing "Could not find token: xxxxxxx" errors. This does not happen every time. We are mostly seeing it in horizon listing instances as admin, and the api showing insta | 19:51 |
| colby_ | nce as an admin. | 19:51 |
| colby_ | We use uuid tokens with memcache backend. | 19:52 |
| colby_ | Has anyone seen anything like this? | 19:52 |
| colby_ | its like 1 out of every x requests fails | 19:53 |
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| ishanjain28 | Thanks @tdasilva. I'll check it out. | 19:57 |
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| georgem1 | colby_: are you running multiple controllers behind a load balancer? | 19:58 |
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| colby_ | georgem1: yes | 19:59 |
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| georgem1 | colby_: do you have identity endpoints defined for both v2 and v3 in keystone? | 20:00 |
| colby_ | just v3 now | 20:00 |
| georgem1 | colby_: good; I would try to isolate the problem by sending the traffic to one controller at a time until you can reproduce it | 20:01 |
| georgem1 | chances are one of the controllers has a slightly different config | 20:01 |
| colby_ | I isolate keystone traffic that way and saw it on both still | 20:01 |
| colby_ | both controllers are configed via puppet | 20:01 |
| colby_ | I only isolated keystone though. Maybe I should try neutron | 20:02 |
| colby_ | also | 20:02 |
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| georgem1 | yeah, I had something similar and only after I removed old v2 endpoints it went away | 20:03 |
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| georgem1 | it looked like some parts of horizon defaulted to v2 even though you set identity v3 in config | 20:04 |
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| quan | I want to create an image containing CentOS 7 Minimal. | 20:07 |
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| quan | In Horizon is this Create Image? When I do that I get a 2.3kB image. How then do I install CentOS? | 20:08 |
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| quan | In KVM I can direct it to boot to an iso, to install. | 20:11 |
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| quan | Noone knows? | 20:18 |
| SamYaple | quan: its tricky to do it the way youre asking | 20:19 |
| SamYaple | you can't do it without cinder for the way youre asking | 20:19 |
| quan | What's the best way to build a custom image? | 20:19 |
| SamYaple | there are a bunch of tools out there | 20:19 |
| SamYaple | i think packer is a good one | 20:19 |
| SamYaple | disk-image-builder is an openstack one | 20:20 |
| SamYaple | its used to build all the gate images | 20:20 |
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| SamYaple | https://www.packer.io/intro/getting-started/build-image.html | 20:20 |
| SamYaple | https://docs.openstack.org/diskimage-builder/latest/ | 20:20 |
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| SamYaple | either one of those will work for you | 20:20 |
| SamYaple | if you *want* to install via an iso, youll need cinder. basically you install to a cinder volume and then you make an image from that volume | 20:21 |
| quan | Understand, ty. | 20:21 |
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| quan | I'd be happy just creating my instance with one of the canned images, but I'll want to install my own software and functions to it. Could I then save that as a custom image? | 20:22 |
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| SamYaple | quan: yes! you can create a snapshot with nova that is then a glance image you can boot from | 20:23 |
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| quan | Nice. No Cinder... | 20:23 |
| SamYaple | indeed | 20:23 |
| SamYaple | i dont recommend installing from ISO | 20:24 |
| SamYaple | its a thing you can do though (ive had to do it for pfsense) | 20:24 |
| quan | Cool. | 20:24 |
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| quan | I'm using InterNap for OpenStack hosting, but they're still on Mitaka which is well beyond EoL. Is there a better/cheaper service with newer OS? | 20:26 |
| SamYaple | i have no clue on pricing, sorry. i have a sizable infrastructure at my house for all my testing | 20:26 |
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| quan | I tried to set up OS at home but didn't have the time to both learn and solve all the problems. | 20:28 |
| quan | ... it's my home server and everything depends on it. | 20:28 |
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| SamYaple | understandable | 20:30 |
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| quan | I'll prob buy another SSD to swap in and experiment on atsome point. | 20:30 |
| quan | Thank you Sam. | 20:30 |
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| SamYaple | anytime! | 20:31 |
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| colby_ | georgem1: So I have isolated all traffic to a single controller. Keystone,horizon,nova,neutron all use a single controller now. Im still seeing the same thing. Often when trying to list instances as admin in horizon Im seeing Neturon client errors, and a token not found errors from keystone | 21:14 |
| colby_ | Id like to look at the memcache servers and see if the token is there. How does keystone generate the memcache key? I cant see to find a correlation between the token and memcache keys | 21:15 |
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| georgem1 | colby_: sorry, I had to leave and now I'm on the train; I think memcache has a hash of the token, but the token is stored in sql if it cannot be found in memcache | 21:27 |
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| georgem1 | you can try disabling the cache | 21:28 |
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| SamYaple | colby_: are you using fernet tokens or uuid tokens? | 21:31 |
| SamYaple | colby_: additionally, memcache is typically only used as a cache, though i believe there is a uuid token backend for memcache rather than the db | 21:31 |
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| colby_ | uuid and memcache backend | 21:32 |
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| SamYaple | colby_: then make sure all the nodes are in sync with ntp | 21:32 |
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| colby_ | they all are | 21:33 |
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| colby_ | we have ntp running across all nodes | 21:33 |
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| SamYaple | you can use normal commands like 'echo stats | nc <memcache server> 11211' to talk to memcache | 21:33 |
| SamYaple | *if* keystone is encrypting those tokens the key should be in your "[cache]" section in keystone.conf | 21:34 |
| colby_ | yea. I was just wondering how I can query for a token in memcache (Im using telnet. Just didn't know how the key id was generated | 21:34 |
| SamYaple | its be a long long time since ive used uuid, much less the memcached backend for it | 21:34 |
| SamYaple | i cant help you much there | 21:34 |
| SamYaple | i highly recommend fernet tokens | 21:35 |
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| colby_ | yea we are thinking of switching just need to setup the key management | 21:35 |
| georgem1 | if you issue a token with "openstack token issue" you should be able to find it when dumping all the keys in memcache, but you should also find in sql | 21:35 |
| colby_ | tokens dont go into sql | 21:35 |
| colby_ | just memcache | 21:36 |
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| georgem1 | https://stackoverflow.com/questions/19560150/get-all-keys-set-in-memcached | 21:36 |
| georgem1 | mine doo | 21:36 |
| georgem1 | mine do go in sql | 21:36 |
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| colby_ | yea I tried that. We have 285K items in memcache so its alot to dump | 21:36 |
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| colby_ | we use memcache as the token persistence backend | 21:37 |
| SamYaple | georgem1: different backend driver. they dont go into sql | 21:37 |
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| colby_ | this would be much easier if we used sql right now to troubleshoot | 21:37 |
| SamYaple | colby_: also, if you are using that driver i think that means you are on newton (or before). and newton is about to EOL. keep that in mind | 21:37 |
| colby_ | no we are on ocata | 21:37 |
| colby_ | upgrading to ocata is where the issues started | 21:38 |
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| SamYaple | oh i see. https://github.com/openstack/keystone/commit/f44da98856cb2c0bd37e3c679384d33e1ddb3129 | 21:38 |
| SamYaple | driver was moved because memcache is non-peristent | 21:38 |
| georgem1 | colby_: ok, so if you have two controllers, each running memcache and storing tokens they generate, then you need to bind memcache on the management IP to allow connections from the other controller, righr? | 21:39 |
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| colby_ | yep both controllers can talk to both memcache servers | 21:39 |
| colby_ | like I said most of the calls all work fine | 21:39 |
| georgem1 | and now I'm getting of the train, I'll check with you tomorrow | 21:40 |
| colby_ | if I click horizon->admin-instances about 1 out of every 5-6 times I load it, we see failure. | 21:40 |
| colby_ | click again and it works fine | 21:40 |
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| SamYaple | colby_: ocata seems to have removed taht driver. https://github.com/openstack/keystone/tree/stable/ocata/keystone/token/persistence/backends | 21:40 |
| SamYaple | what does the '[token]\driver=' line in your conf say? | 21:41 |
| SamYaple | did they perhaps move it? | 21:41 |
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| colby_ | driver=kvs | 21:42 |
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| SamYaple | ah. ive never used that. i used the memcache driver which inherits that | 21:45 |
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| colby_ | yea I saw thats how you have to do it with ocata. Maybe I just need to switch to fernet | 21:47 |
| colby_ | Trying to figure out how to distribute the best way | 21:48 |
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| colby_ | distribute the keys | 21:48 |
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| SamYaple | yea dude im not sure kvs is working the way you think here. i dont think it can do multiple memcache host backends thats what the memcache and memcahce_pool drivers did | 21:50 |
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| SamYaple | i think its using an in-memory cache right now | 21:50 |
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| SamYaple | colby_: yea you are not distributed. each copy of keystone has its own token cache | 21:53 |
| SamYaple | colby_: https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/stable/ocata/keystone/token/persistence/backends/kvs.py#L53 | 21:53 |
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| SamYaple | thats the backend you are using | 21:53 |
| colby_ | ah ok that would explain. Sigh ok | 21:54 |
| SamYaple | you either need to switch to sql or fernet | 21:54 |
| colby_ | wait but Im only using one keystone right now...still having the same issue | 21:54 |
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| SamYaple | colby_: honestly im not sure. i do know that driver is well over a year since the lat update and its removed in Pike | 21:55 |
| SamYaple | i would just bite the bullet and switch | 21:55 |
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| SamYaple | if youre only using one host for keystone now anyway it shouldnt matter | 21:55 |
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| SamYaple | and since your current method *cant* do multinode.... | 21:55 |
| colby_ | no I just have the 2nd node commented on the load balancer right now | 21:56 |
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| SamYaple | right. my point is you cant do multinode right now. period. | 21:57 |
| colby_ | Id like to have 2. I guess I can just use ssh keys to distribute the fernet keys | 21:57 |
| colby_ | So this is where I saw the info for kvs with memcache: https://docs.openstack.org/keystone/ocata/configuration.html#caching-layer | 21:57 |
| SamYaple | colby_: thats a caching layer and is a different thing | 21:58 |
| SamYaple | you can still use that with fernet | 21:58 |
| colby_ | ah I see | 21:58 |
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| colby_ | SamYaple: Sorry my client disconnected. | 22:04 |
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| colby_ | Ill look at fernet tokens. Is SSH an ok way to distrubute the keys. Just run keystone tool to rotate tokens on one then ssh the tokens to the other? Does httpd need to be restarted on token rotation? | 22:05 |
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| SamYaple | colby_: no need to restart | 22:05 |
| SamYaple | everytime a token is validate teh files are re-read | 22:06 |
| colby_ | awesome. Even easier then. | 22:06 |
| SamYaple | colby_: rsync/ssh whatever is fine | 22:06 |
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| colby_ | SamYaple: Thanks for your help! | 22:12 |
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| colby_ | SamYaple: Does it matter what driver I use with Fernet? looks like the options are kvs and sql. | 22:48 |
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| SamYaple | colby_: i dont really think its a "choice" anymore. the kvs plugin is gone in Pike | 22:51 |
| SamYaple | im not sure though if that is used when using the fernet provider | 22:51 |
| SamYaple | the only line you need to put is '[token]\provider=fernet' | 22:51 |
| SamYaple | you can leasve the rest off | 22:51 |
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| colby_ | gotcha | 22:52 |
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| SamYaple | colby_: http://paste.openstack.org/show/623502/ thats my whole config | 22:54 |
| SamYaple | on one of my test clusters | 22:54 |
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| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: Workarounds are in place for libcurl and similar dependency errors due to stale ubuntu mirroring, and for POST_FAILURE results stemming from runaway inode utilization on the logs site; feel free to recheck failing changes for either of these problems now | 23:01 | |
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| colby_ | SamYaple: I got it working. Thanks for all your help | 23:06 |
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