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| badloop | trying to set up magnum (on devstack) and getting the following error in conductor status: magnum-conductor.service: Main process exited, code=killed, status=14/ALRM | 01:40 |
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| gunix | SamYaple: regarding network nodes, these should be deployed on controller or on compute? if you don't have how to deploy dedicated network nodes, i mean | 08:02 |
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| masuberu | good afternoon, is there a way to increase "service" project quota? | 08:54 |
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| gunix | howerver i don't see any configuration for keepalived further down. does it automatically get configured by neutron ? | 09:09 |
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| br0k3n | horizon dashboard shows that a vm has acquired an ip, but from the console the vm has not. | 09:55 |
| br0k3n | the logs are not helpful as well. | 09:56 |
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| alexis | hi. i need some help with kubernetes on openstack, please | 10:49 |
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| Guest87550 | can somebody help me on kubernetes please!? | 11:33 |
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| pbandark | hi.. from openstack instances, name resolution sometimes work sometimes not. any pointer what can be the cause ? | 12:45 |
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| trewq | new to openstack and want to learn/experiment with it. Is there a way for me to deploy openstack in the cloud (on aws for instance) and control a few machines (without have any physical bare metal servers)? | 12:59 |
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| trewq | this is for a proof of concept | 12:59 |
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| irtermite | trewq: yup... check out devstack or the OSA All-in-one | 13:55 |
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| irtermite | The AIO was written on Rackspace OpenStack, but I believe it should work on just about any VM in theory. https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible-ops/tree/master/multi-node-aio | 13:58 |
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| SamYaple | gunix: you can run it on the controllers or have a sepcfic netowkr node. running on the cmopute is only for dvr | 14:00 |
| SamYaple | gunix: keepalived is automatically etup in that scenario | 14:00 |
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| masuberu | good afternoon, I wanted to ask if by setting port_security_enabled as False will remove any firewall running on the vms connected to that network? | 14:06 |
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| mugsie | idlemind: yes - you can run designate + keystone + horizon on their own | 14:24 |
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| SamYaple | masuberu: port_security is what enforces mac and ip addresses on the hypervisor | 14:31 |
| SamYaple | if you turn that off anyone can spoof thier ips | 14:31 |
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| masuberu | SamYaple, I am running apache spark on instances and the executers gets crazy opening ports, so I need a way to allow any traffic or a better way to handle this | 14:33 |
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| SamYaple | masuberu: i mean do you just want to allow all ports in teh security group rules? | 14:33 |
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| masuberu | SamYaple, that would be an option yes | 14:34 |
| SamYaple | would not recommend disabling port_security | 14:34 |
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| SamYaple | allowing all ports/protocols is the better option | 14:34 |
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| masuberu | SamYaple, so can I do that? just open the whole range of ports? | 14:34 |
| SamYaple | yes. you can open port ranges | 14:35 |
| SamYaple | in this case your range is the entire range of ports | 14:35 |
| masuberu | SamYaple, I see | 14:35 |
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| masuberu | SamYaple, another question, what can I do to reduce the latency in the network? have you setup ovs dpdk? | 14:36 |
| masuberu | *have you tried | 14:37 |
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| masuberu | I was wondering whether forget about SDN and use all networks as provider networks or try ovs dpdk? | 14:38 |
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| SamYaple | masuberu: how much latency are we talking about | 14:41 |
| SamYaple | (what are we trying to achieve) | 14:41 |
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| masuberu | SamYaple, around 350ms | 14:42 |
| SamYaple | i have worked with ovs+dpdk, and its certainly a trade off of performance vs resource usage (namely the cpu thats polling) | 14:42 |
| masuberu | SamYaple, sorry I ment 0.350ms | 14:42 |
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| SamYaple | wow yea. ok that was worriesome | 14:43 |
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| SamYaple | i would gather some metrics of your current speeds. vm to vm, vm to provider network resource/vm to internet | 14:44 |
| SamYaple | then give ovs-dpdk a test | 14:44 |
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| masuberu | SamYaple, what about forget about SDN, put all provider network and setup vxlan on the switch, have you tried that? | 14:45 |
| masuberu | I am just asking | 14:45 |
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| SamYaple | i havent because i value my time and dont want to spend it manually reimplmenting what neutron has done | 14:46 |
| SamYaple | i have run all provider network though | 14:46 |
| masuberu | hahaahahahah nice answer | 14:46 |
| masuberu | actually you are right | 14:47 |
| masuberu | all provider means all vms can see each other right? | 14:47 |
| SamYaple | provider networks can be vlan segrecated | 14:47 |
| SamYaple | if its a single flat network, then yea everything is on the same network | 14:47 |
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| masuberu | SamYaple, sorry my ignorance, but you need to setup the vlans on the switch isn't it? | 14:48 |
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| masuberu | and assign each port to a vlan? | 14:48 |
| SamYaple | you setup the vlans in neutron. the switchports the servers are connected to must trunk/allow those vlans | 14:49 |
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| masuberu | ok, I will have to read about that | 14:51 |
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| masuberu | I know you are very good in networking. Can I ask you where the virtual routers live in openstack? do they leave on each compute node or on the network node? | 14:52 |
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| SamYaple | masuberu: `neutron agent-list` look for l3-agent | 14:53 |
| SamYaple | itll tell you the host it lives | 14:54 |
| SamYaple | typically this is on the controllers | 14:54 |
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| masuberu | SamYaple, ok, so all the routing traffic for all vms goes through the controller nodes? | 14:55 |
| SamYaple | in most configurations | 14:55 |
| masuberu | that can be a lot of traffic | 14:55 |
| masuberu | ok let me check mine | 14:56 |
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| masuberu | yes my case lives in the control plane | 14:57 |
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| masuberu | SamYaple, can I ask your sincere opinion about this ping output https://bpaste.net/show/bdab4fe2aa14? this is vm to vm on the same network | 14:59 |
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| SamYaple | seems super reasonable to me | 15:00 |
| masuberu | ok | 15:00 |
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| georgem1 | masuberu: only traffic that needs to traverse the virtual router goes through the controller node | 15:59 |
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| georgem1 | masuberu: so if your instances do a lot of traffic amongst them you don't have a bottleneck and latency is reduced | 16:00 |
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| trewq | irtermite: thanks - with devstack, can openstack provision other machines on the cloud? | 16:36 |
| trewq | I want to learn about openstack and would like to deploy this on the cloud and use other cloud instances as machines.. for proof of concept | 16:37 |
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| masuberu | georgem1, I have compared ping between 2 baremetal machines and vms on same network | 16:41 |
| masuberu | and the latency on the vms is much higher | 16:41 |
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| masuberu | georgem1, I don't see that difference when I ping google for example so I am just wondering why is that, I would like to be able to understand and see if this is a common thing to everyone | 16:43 |
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| saugusto | Hi all , Can some one point me the best horizon documentation . I would like to do not allow to user to create instance based on volume . To choose space of root disk they should go to Volumes menu . | 16:50 |
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| georgem1 | masuberu: there is an overhead when pinging from VM to VM across virtual switches and tunnelling protocols, as opposed to a ping between two physical server connected to the same layer2 network, but it shouldn't be too big | 16:57 |
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| georgem1 | masuberu: in my case, ping between two compute nodes: | 17:00 |
| georgem1 | rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.060/0.083/0.196/0.036 ms | 17:00 |
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| georgem1 | ping between two VMs running on the same two compute nodes: rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.287/0.487/1.916/0.479 ms | 17:00 |
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| mihdih | elow guys, just a quick question. hmm would it be possible to backup and restore secgroup? | 17:01 |
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| georgem1 | saugusto: you have to play with the "nova_policy.json" that dashboard uses to authorize user actions | 17:05 |
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| mdih | hm would it be enough to just backup the database (mariadb in this case) to backup the security group and rules? | 17:05 |
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| saugusto | georgem1 : Can you point me the link that explain how policy works ? | 17:06 |
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| georgem1 | this is a old but should still be relevant: http://www.florentflament.com/blog/customizing-openstack-rbac-policies.html | 17:07 |
| georgem1 | this is the sample config: https://docs.openstack.org/newton/config-reference/compute/samples/policy.yaml.html | 17:08 |
| saugusto | Thank you georgem1 | 17:08 |
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| georgem1 | the idea is that any user action triggered through dashboard is first validated by that specific service policies used by dashboard; the action could be allowed, but still fail if the service has a more strict policy in its own config dir | 17:10 |
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| georgem1 | so you have a nova policy in "/usr/share/openstack-dashboard/openstack_dashboard/conf/" that is checked by dashboard, and Nova has its own policy "/etc/nova/policy.json" that could be different | 17:11 |
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| georgem1 | mihdih: if you backup the neutron db it should be enough to capture a point in time of the security groups | 17:14 |
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| georgem1 | mihdih: this command can also be used to dump the rules: neutron security-group-rule-list -c id -c tenant_id -c security_group -c direction -c protocol/port -c remote | 17:15 |
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| mdih | @georgem1, ohhhh coool hmmm how about the iptables, if am not mistaken a secgroup rule also has an associated or corresponding iptable entry right? | 17:15 |
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| georgem1 | the neutron agents are in charge of converting the rules into iptables rules | 17:16 |
| georgem1 | mdih: I'm not sure what your goal is though | 17:16 |
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| mdih | ahh. thats awesome, hmm so by restarting the agent then should be enough right? | 17:18 |
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| georgem1 | mdih: yes, if things work properly.. | 17:19 |
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| mdih | ah to provide some context. hm basically we have a situation wherein theres a lot of rule that have already been created and people are getting paranoid if by some chance something goes wrong hehe | 17:21 |
| mdih | anyway, thanks a lot georgem1. ill give it a try | 17:22 |
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| mdih | ohh another thing, im a bit skeptical about this, but would it be possible to also restore the networks? though am not quite sure when would this be useful haha..for DR maybe but just curious :D | 17:25 |
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| masuberu | georgem1, yeah it is similar to mine rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.266/0.347/0.388/0.036 ms | 17:27 |
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| georgem1 | mdih: sure, you should backup your databases for all services but this will only give you a point in time, it's preferable you run a DB clustered so you have multiple up-to-date copies of the database, just in case you loose one server | 17:29 |
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| mdih | georgem1: ah yeah we are running galera, with 3 nodes | 17:31 |
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| saugusto | What is the configuration on nova that defines which ceph pool will be use when we request a instance from a volume . cinder + ceph and nova + ceph is working fine . Only when I ask to create a New volume from Instance creation screen at horizon it returns : Block Device Mapping is Invalid. | 17:36 |
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| georgem1 | saugusto: it should whatever pool is used by cinder; make sure the size of the volumes is bigger than the flavour's root disk | 17:46 |
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| saugusto | I thought about this , but I have 3 different ceph pools for my cinder configuration . And because it does not have a default I think that is the cause of the error . | 17:47 |
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| saugusto | I would like to set the default pool and see the error stops . | 17:49 |
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| georgem1 | saugusto: if you don't choose a volume type from the drop-down list in dashboard when you create a volume, what pool is it used? | 17:50 |
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| saugusto | It use my vms pool that is configured on nova libvirt section | 17:52 |
| saugusto | [libvirt] | 17:52 |
| saugusto | virt_type = kvm | 17:52 |
| saugusto | images_rbd_pool = vms | 17:52 |
| saugusto | images_type = rbd | 17:52 |
| saugusto | rbd_secret_uuid = c791e4ea-59fe-4f6e-9571-84b38fa800b2 | 17:52 |
| saugusto | rbd_user = cinder | 17:52 |
| saugusto | disk_cachemodes = "network=writeback" | 17:52 |
| saugusto | #snapshots_directory = /var/lib/nova/snapshots | 17:52 |
| saugusto | hw_disk_discard = unmap | 17:52 |
| saugusto | live_migration_flag= "VIR_MIGRATE_UNDEFINE_SOURCE,VIR_MIGRATE_PEER2PEER,VIR_MIGRATE_LIVE,VIR_MIGRATE_PERSIST_DEST,VIR_MIGRATE_TUNNELLED" | 17:52 |
| saugusto | images_rbd_ceph_conf = /etc/ceph/ceph.conf | 17:52 |
| saugusto | inject_partition = -1 | 17:52 |
| mdih | hm how about, theres a default volume type configured in cinder? as such "default_volume_type = xx" and add xx settings accordingly? | 17:53 |
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| saugusto | no such configuration on my cinder.conf | 17:57 |
| saugusto | Probably that is the problem | 17:57 |
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| mdih | saugusto: yeah perhaps that will work. also in the volume type set a pool like [xx].. rbd_poo = pool | 18:01 |
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| saugusto | mdih : Same error . | 18:10 |
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| saugusto | Hi guys , I found the error . After log at cinder log , I relized that It was missing the glance_api_servers is missing , so it was trying to access local server but my glance server is in another box . | 18:25 |
| saugusto | Thank you for the help | 18:25 |
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| mario_ozawa | yeah, `glance_api_servers` should point to where you glance api/registry, e.g controller:9292 | 18:31 |
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