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| SamYaple | mwynne: yes | 06:18 |
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| SamYaple | mwynne: with veth pairs existing but being broken ive seen that | 06:19 |
| SamYaple | i dont have a solution other than reboot or destroy and recretae the interfaces | 06:19 |
| SamYaple | havent seen it for a while, so i assumed it was a kernel bug | 06:19 |
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| DHE | I'm trying to set up a network topology containing both VXLAN tenant networks and VLAN-based and I think I botched it. Horizon has no subnets view for admins or users and floating IPs are busted. Is there a good document on how to set that up or any ideas on what I might have done wrong? | 13:25 |
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| DHE | okay never mind the subnets thing, but the rest still stands. :/ | 13:28 |
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| FH | Hi | 14:12 |
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| littlepython | I am new to openstack,just a basic questions | 14:18 |
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| littlepython | do we pay for the vms we use in openstack? | 14:18 |
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| badloop | "pay" ... | 14:28 |
| badloop | so, openstack is free.... | 14:28 |
| badloop | you're only paying if you have a hosted provider | 14:28 |
| littlepython | badloop: now lets say i want to use VMs in openstack | 14:29 |
| badloop | ok | 14:29 |
| littlepython | do i have to pay something? | 14:29 |
| badloop | no | 14:29 |
| littlepython | wow so that means we can use any VMs with any configuration? | 14:29 |
| badloop | much like a hypervisor like Xen... its free | 14:29 |
| littlepython | superbbbb | 14:29 |
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| badloop | littlepython: not only can you use any vm's in any configuration, you can also use any virtual networking you want in any configuration | 14:30 |
| littlepython | fantasticc | 14:30 |
| littlepython | i have used aws and google cloud,but very expensive to host a cluster | 14:30 |
| badloop | littlepython: you'll still run into those costs if you have openstack running in aws | 14:30 |
| badloop | aws is your hosting provider | 14:31 |
| badloop | but there is no software cost | 14:31 |
| littlepython | badloop: what would be the best course or tutorial or book to know about openstack | 14:31 |
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| badloop | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Main_Page | 14:31 |
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| badloop | you can install devstack and mess around with it | 14:32 |
| littlepython | what is devstack | 14:32 |
| littlepython | badloop: basically my use case is to host kubernetes cluster | 14:33 |
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| badloop | sure... openstack works for that... but you dont need openstack to do that. | 14:33 |
| badloop | you could simply have vm's that you cluster, or baremetal machines that you cluster | 14:33 |
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| badloop | openstack allows you to provision not only vms, but networking, etc | 14:34 |
| badloop | its like running your own AWS | 14:34 |
| badloop | https://docs.openstack.org/devstack/latest/ | 14:34 |
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| badloop | devstack is an "all in one" set of scripts that you can use to set up openstack quickly and easily to mess around with and get a feel for it | 14:34 |
| badloop | you can run it inside a virtual machine | 14:35 |
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| littlepython | badloop: so do we need linux? | 14:35 |
| littlepython | badloop: can i use my vagrant vm? | 14:35 |
| badloop | yes | 14:35 |
| badloop | run it on ubuntu | 14:36 |
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| badloop | littlepython: i believe so... | 14:36 |
| littlepython | ok | 14:36 |
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| Neptu_ | keystone | 17:51 |
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| brad[] | cowboy question, if one tried using packstack to deploy a new version of openstack overtop an existing deploy.... | 19:55 |
| brad[] | how destructive would that be, exactly? | 19:56 |
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| crazik | Hi | 19:58 |
| crazik | Need help with nova-conductor on Ocata. | 19:58 |
| crazik | I reinstalled my installation, and have a strange behaviour | 19:58 |
| crazik | services are starting, nova-conductor is talking with rabbit | 19:59 |
| crazik | but, when I try to create an instance | 19:59 |
| crazik | I have "ACCESS_DENIED" | 19:59 |
| crazik | and a nice stacktrace | 19:59 |
| crazik | AccessRefused: (0, 0): (403) ACCESS_REFUSED - Login was refused using authentication mechanism AMQPLAIN. For details see the broker logfile. | 20:00 |
| crazik | there is nothing special on broker side.. | 20:00 |
| crazik | do anyone is able to say, what is going there? | 20:00 |
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| SamYaple | crazik: your compute possibly does not have valid credentials | 20:09 |
| SamYaple | the trace is in nova-compute logs yes? | 20:09 |
| crazik | SamYaple: I'm talking about nova-conductor | 20:10 |
| crazik | and it's talking with rabbit | 20:10 |
| crazik | replying to some messages | 20:10 |
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| SamYaple | multinode rabbitmq? | 20:10 |
| crazik | yep | 20:10 |
| crazik | 3 node cluster | 20:10 |
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| SamYaple | it may not be clustered properly and only have creds for 1 or 2 hosts | 20:11 |
| crazik | hm, let me check | 20:11 |
| SamYaple | if rabbitmqctl cluster_status shows all three nodes, then creds *should* be in sync ( havent seen them not be in sync) | 20:11 |
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| crazik | cluster is synced | 20:12 |
| crazik | on each node user is listed. | 20:12 |
| crazik | but let me try with one node in config | 20:12 |
| crazik | it may be some clue | 20:13 |
| SamYaple | can you verify that your transport_url has all three nodes from the clusterand the same creds for all of them? | 20:13 |
| crazik | yes, it has the same | 20:13 |
| crazik | it comes from puppet | 20:13 |
| crazik | one rabbit in config, and still the same | 20:15 |
| SamYaple | version of openstack? | 20:16 |
| crazik | ocata | 20:16 |
| crazik | 2:15.0.7-0ubuntu1~cloud0 | 20:16 |
| SamYaple | did you run the discover_hosts bit? i know that updates rabbitmq and database | 20:16 |
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| crazik | SamYaple: yes | 20:16 |
| crazik | all nova services are ok | 20:16 |
| crazik | up and running | 20:16 |
| crazik | errors show only when I try to create an instance | 20:17 |
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| SamYaple | hmmmm strange indeed. | 20:17 |
| SamYaple | i suspect its still has all three rabbitmq nodes in the database for cell1 | 20:18 |
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| SamYaple | and i suspect one of your nodes has issues, possibly iptables | 20:18 |
| crazik | well, I have cells disabled in cfg | 20:18 |
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| crazik | iptables is empty | 20:19 |
| SamYaple | in ocata, you cant have it disable just fyi | 20:19 |
| crazik | I know. I did a base setup | 20:19 |
| SamYaple | we are talkign cellsv2 | 20:19 |
| SamYaple | would you be able to paste your nova.conf? (removing sensitive data) paste.openstack.org? | 20:19 |
| crazik | I can try | 20:20 |
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| crazik | SamYaple: can I paste link on /msg ? | 20:29 |
| SamYaple | sure | 20:29 |
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| SamYaple | and thanks for asking to pm :) | 20:30 |
| crazik | ;) | 20:30 |
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| SamYaple | aside from having a large amount of unneeded or default options specified, it all looks fine | 20:33 |
| SamYaple | the cells option defaults to False (and specificaly deals with cellv1 anyway) | 20:33 |
| SamYaple | so that shouldnt be a worry | 20:34 |
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| SamYaple | are you consuming the notifications queue? | 20:35 |
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| SamYaple | also, if you could please dump your `rabbitmqct list_vhosts` `list_policies` `list_permissions` `list_users` for review | 20:36 |
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| crazik | SamYaple: yes, I'm consuming notifications | 20:40 |
| crazik | I have only "/" on rabbit, no more vhosts | 20:40 |
| SamYaple | i suspected as much | 20:41 |
| SamYaple | teh rest just confirm proper HA/permissions and stuff | 20:41 |
| crazik | users are ok | 20:41 |
| crazik | also permissions | 20:41 |
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| crazik | I have one global user for openstack | 20:42 |
| SamYaple | i see | 20:42 |
| SamYaple | policies? | 20:42 |
| crazik | only for ha | 20:42 |
| SamYaple | that one i would like to confirm since its a bit hairy | 20:42 |
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| crazik | SamYaple: I have my second installation with older Ocata | 20:42 |
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| crazik | and without such problem | 20:43 |
| crazik | this is fresh, nova installed today | 20:43 |
| crazik | 12h debugging | 20:43 |
| crazik | and nothing. | 20:43 |
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| SamYaple | hmmm | 20:43 |
| crazik | I just wonder, what action conductor is going to make, why it's trying to connect somewhere | 20:43 |
| crazik | when it's already connected | 20:43 |
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| SamYaple | ok. so sounds silly, but do me a favor and put a space between the equals 'transport_url = rabbit://****' | 20:45 |
| SamYaple | im thinking there is a parsing issue | 20:45 |
| SamYaple | specificaly for cellsv2 stuff | 20:45 |
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| crazik | heh, I was trying that already | 20:45 |
| crazik | but, I'm tired, so I will try again | 20:46 |
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| SamYaple | well i know it does weird things with the option, so try that and then resync the cells stuff | 20:46 |
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| SamYaple | nova-manage cell_v2 create_cell --name=cell1 --verbose | 20:47 |
| SamYaple | should already have the stuff, but im running out of ideas so humor me :P | 20:47 |
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| crazik | hmm | 20:48 |
| crazik | SamYaple: it created one more cell1 | 20:48 |
| crazik | Now I have two with different uids | 20:48 |
| SamYaple | delete the first one (or delete both and recreate) | 20:48 |
| crazik | first one? | 20:49 |
| SamYaple | the original cells1 | 20:49 |
| SamYaple | cell1* | 20:49 |
| SamYaple | or, delete both and recreate | 20:49 |
| crazik | hmm | 20:49 |
| crazik | it may be an issue | 20:49 |
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| SamYaple | i thought this was a new cluster? | 20:49 |
| crazik | yes, but I did a mistake today | 20:50 |
| crazik | invoking command twice | 20:50 |
| crazik | then removed last cell | 20:50 |
| SamYaple | that command is safe to run multitimes | 20:50 |
| SamYaple | it should only create a new cell when options change | 20:51 |
| crazik | There are existing hosts mapped to cell with uuid | 20:51 |
| SamYaple | ah yea you would have to unmap then | 20:51 |
| SamYaple | this might just be easier with a db_drop and resync manually you know | 20:52 |
| crazik | just one table in db? | 20:52 |
| SamYaple | no, the whole db for nova nova_api and nova_cell0 to be safe, then resync it all | 20:52 |
| SamYaple | its pretty straight forward | 20:52 |
| SamYaple | IIRC in ocata deleting a cell reuiqres a DB edit | 20:53 |
| SamYaple | either way, the quickest path is to shutdown the nova services, drop the dbs, manually resync and stuff, then start the services back | 20:53 |
| SamYaple | crazik: like so https://github.com/SamYaple/home-salt/blob/master/salt/files/openstack/nova/nova-api.sh.j2#L10-L14 | 20:54 |
| crazik | sounds like a lot or work ;) | 20:54 |
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| SamYaple | says teh person tahts 12h in | 20:55 |
| crazik | :D | 20:55 |
| mwynne | Hey SamYaple. Quick one for you. I've created a stack with linuxbridge networks, but after creating the provider network I'm unable to ping from the dhcp namespace out to the internet. Nothing except ARP will go through the bridge. Any idea wtf is happening here? | 20:55 |
| mwynne | SamYaple: Also nothing in the logs that I can see.. | 20:56 |
| crazik | ok. 1. shutdown all. 2. drop db, 3. create db, 4 sync | 20:56 |
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| SamYaple | crazik: drop dbs*** plural, nova nova_api nova_cell0, then run the commands i linked you | 20:57 |
| SamYaple | yes | 20:57 |
| SamYaple | mwynne: so provider network with real public ips? | 20:57 |
| SamYaple | as in, the dhcp port has a public ip in the namespace? | 20:57 |
| mwynne | yeah | 20:57 |
| mwynne | well.. "public" but yeah.. | 20:58 |
| mwynne | public in terms of our internal network | 20:58 |
| SamYaple | i see. so first step would be to get to your gateway | 20:58 |
| SamYaple | if arp is leaving and not returning, thats why you arent seeing more traffic | 20:58 |
| SamYaple | because arp needs to return to know what the gateway L2 addy is | 20:58 |
| SamYaple | i suspect a vlan issue, but any networking issue is game | 20:59 |
| SamYaple | make sure the arp leaves the dhcp controller node, then trace it through the rest of your network | 20:59 |
| kysse | it most certainly sounds lika vlan issue | 21:00 |
| mwynne | hmm. no vlans on my side. | 21:02 |
| SamYaple | mwynne: so its a flat network? | 21:02 |
| mwynne | yeah | 21:02 |
| SamYaple | situtation hasnt changed really, if you see the arp leaving but not returning you have outside-of-that-box network issues | 21:03 |
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| mwynne | true | 21:04 |
| crazik | SamYaple: ok, services started, nova service-list show them up. | 21:04 |
| crazik | now: nova-manage cell_v2 discover_hosts ? | 21:04 |
| SamYaple | before you do that | 21:05 |
| SamYaple | try running the cells command from above and confirm it doesnt create a new cell | 21:05 |
| SamYaple | (says cell already exists) | 21:05 |
| SamYaple | but afterwards, yes | 21:05 |
| crazik | Cell with the specified transport_url and database_connection combination already exists | 21:06 |
| crazik | yeah | 21:06 |
| SamYaple | cool then youre good to go | 21:06 |
| SamYaple | discover hosts then try to launch an instance | 21:06 |
| crazik | mapped all my computes | 21:07 |
| crazik | Ok, I will skip AZ assigment now | 21:07 |
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| crazik | need a flavor first | 21:12 |
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| SamYaple | strawberry | 21:13 |
| SamYaple | lemon | 21:13 |
| SamYaple | orange | 21:13 |
| SamYaple | do those work? | 21:13 |
| crazik | yeah! | 21:13 |
| crazik | it's working! | 21:13 |
| SamYaple | awesome sauce | 21:14 |
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| SamYaple | more reasons to hate nova | 21:14 |
| crazik | (well, spawning in progress) | 21:14 |
| crazik | but scheduling is done | 21:14 |
| SamYaple | so for future reference, transport_url needs a space before and after equals | 21:14 |
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| crazik | SamYaple: I suspect misconfigured cell | 21:14 |
| SamYaple | nova is probably ripping out that line and grabbing the last element (which is the whole line without spaces) | 21:14 |
| SamYaple | crazik: misconifgured because of that ^ | 21:15 |
| crazik | should I recreate/reconfigure cell after any config change? | 21:15 |
| SamYaple | i tested it in a lab while we ewre talking :P | 21:15 |
| SamYaple | no god no | 21:15 |
| SamYaple | well maybe | 21:15 |
| SamYaple | if your rabbitmq stuff changes | 21:15 |
| crazik | but I did an amqp hosts change | 21:15 |
| SamYaple | yea | 21:15 |
| crazik | tiday | 21:15 |
| SamYaple | i dont have a good answer for you, sorry | 21:15 |
| crazik | ok | 21:15 |
| SamYaple | this stuff is fairly new and in my opinion porrly thought out | 21:16 |
| crazik | SamYaple: big thanks | 21:16 |
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| SamYaple | honestly, who puts configs in the db? with no way to update at taht | 21:16 |
| lincolnb | hey all, I'm trying to get the "ami-id" via "curl http://169.254.169.254/latest/meta-data/ami-id" and just getting a "None" as output. this is on Ocata. has this been deprecated or is something misconfigured? | 21:16 |
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| forsook | Hi, everybody. I'm setting up a single-node openstack and I'm looking for some help to figure out why Glance says my admin user isn't authorized. Am I in the right place? | 21:54 |
| SamYaple | forsook: indeed! | 21:54 |
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| SamYaple | admin user have the admin role assigned to it? | 21:54 |
| forsook | yes | 21:54 |
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| SamYaple | glance configured to talk to keystone correct? (pasting the glance-api config would help verify, remove seneitive info, paste.openstack.org) | 21:55 |
| SamYaple | also, while were at it, what version of openstack | 21:55 |
| forsook | Pike. I'll get on that paste, but I can say that I've done a pcap and I can see Glance get a token for itself from Keystone, and then ask to verify a second token which fails. | 21:56 |
| SamYaple | ok, could still be config related in this case(in fact, probably is with that info) | 21:57 |
| SamYaple | can you also provide `openstack user list` openstack role list and `openstack role assignment list` for extra verification :) | 21:57 |
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| forsook | sure thing. Give me a minute. | 21:59 |
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| forsook | SamYaple: http://paste.openstack.org/show/625393/ | 22:16 |
| forsook | I think everything you asked for is in there. I deleted the copious comments from glance-api.conf for brevity's sake | 22:17 |
| SamYaple | haha thanks | 22:18 |
| SamYaple | ok so that all looks good. hmmmm | 22:19 |
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| SamYaple | is it possible you are using the v1 api? | 22:19 |
| SamYaple | explictly declaring the long deprecated v1api is recommended '[DEFAULT]\enable_v1_api = False' | 22:20 |
| SamYaple | s/declaring/disabling/ | 22:20 |
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| forsook | Okay. I don't have the pcap in front of me but I'm pretty sure it was going to v2. I have v2 set in my environment script | 22:21 |
| SamYaple | then youre good | 22:21 |
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| SamYaple | lets turn on debug and get the associated stacktraces and errors | 22:21 |
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| forsook | hi, sorry, I guess I dropped out there. | 22:27 |
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| forsook | SamYaple: when I issue the 'openstack image create' etc I have exported "OS_IMAGE_API_VERSION=2" | 22:27 |
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| SamYaple | right | 22:29 |
| SamYaple | that should be fine | 22:29 |
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| SamYaple | last thing i said was | 22:33 |
| SamYaple | 22:21:20 < SamYaple> then youre good | 22:33 |
| SamYaple | 22:21:36 < SamYaple> lets turn on debug and get the associated stacktraces and errors | 22:33 |
| forsook | okay, thanks! I missed those while I was timed out. What do I need to do to turn on debug? Are we debugging glance and keystone? | 22:34 |
| SamYaple | glance | 22:34 |
| SamYaple | '[DEFAULT]\debug=true | 22:34 |
| SamYaple | we might have to to it to keystone too, though thats doubtful. but it wont hurt to turn it on in both places | 22:34 |
| forsook | I'll go ahead and do it. This is a dev server, it won't bother anybody but me. | 22:35 |
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| forsook | Okay. So now restart glance-api and apache, and try again, I assume | 22:36 |
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| SamYaple | yup | 22:38 |
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| forsook | Okay, done. Got the same error, as expected. Are we looking in /var/log/glance/glance-api.log now? There isn't as much in there as I was expecting to see. | 22:40 |
| SamYaple | yea there should be some auth errors though, no? | 22:41 |
| SamYaple | just looking for some logs with errors to further troubleshoot is all | 22:41 |
| forsook | Yes. I'll paste them. | 22:42 |
| forsook | SamYaple: http://paste.openstack.org/show/625396/ | 22:43 |
| forsook | The paths are gonna look a bit funky, I'm running from a virtualenv. | 22:44 |
| SamYaple | i always do | 22:44 |
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| SamYaple | oh thats weird | 22:45 |
| SamYaple | uhh hmm | 22:46 |
| SamYaple | going to re-ask in keystone. | 22:46 |
| SamYaple | what version of openstack is this again? (as in how did you deploy it) | 22:46 |
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| forsook | I'm installing from source, in the Pike branch. | 22:47 |
| SamYaple | actually easiest to jsut ask for a `pip freeze` from the glance venv | 22:47 |
| forsook | okay, stand by | 22:47 |
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| forsook | SamYaple: http://paste.openstack.org/show/625397/ | 22:49 |
| SamYaple | you..... made a mistake in dpeloying :) | 22:50 |
| SamYaple | you need to be deploying against upper-contstraints.txt | 22:50 |
| SamYaple | from the pike branch https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/stable/pike/upper-constraints.txt | 22:50 |
| forsook | oho | 22:50 |
| forsook | Indeed, I didn't do that | 22:50 |
| SamYaple | pip install -c upper-contraints.txt glance-repo | 22:51 |
| SamYaple | so i beleive you have this issue beause of keystoneauth1==3.2.0 | 22:51 |
| SamYaple | if you want to *test* real quick, install keystoneauth1==3.1.0 | 22:51 |
| SamYaple | restart glance and see what happened | 22:51 |
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| forsook | hm... still no joy | 22:53 |
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| SamYaple | might need to be in keystone toooo | 22:54 |
| forsook | but my openstack venv also is using keystoneauth1==3.2.0 | 22:54 |
| SamYaple | might be easier to retest by redeploying correctly | 22:54 |
| SamYaple | now that part shouldnt matter | 22:55 |
| SamYaple | (shouldnt) | 22:55 |
| forsook | haha okay | 22:55 |
| SamYaple | the client can be running whatever it needs | 22:55 |
| forsook | Well I will redeploy and see how that goes. | 22:55 |
| forsook | Thanks so much for the help! | 22:55 |
| SamYaple | you may be interested in a project i work on called LOCI, its openstack images in docker containers | 22:57 |
| SamYaple | not so much the dockercontainers part, but the building part | 22:57 |
| SamYaple | its from source venv building inthe container | 22:57 |
| SamYaple | you can probably reuse the scripts :) | 22:57 |
| forsook | That does sound handy. | 22:57 |
| forsook | I'll look into it. | 22:58 |
| SamYaple | https://github.com/openstack/loci | 22:58 |
| SamYaple | specifcally https://github.com/openstack/loci/blob/master/scripts/install.sh | 22:58 |
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| forsook | Awesome. I got to this point after trying and failing to make devstack work, so this could be very helpful. | 23:00 |
| SamYaple | one of the longer term goals it to have devstack using (optionally) the loci images :) | 23:01 |
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| SamYaple | i also have https://github.com/SamYaple/home-salt | 23:02 |
| SamYaple | which deploys those containers | 23:03 |
| SamYaple | useful as reference for configs | 23:03 |
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