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| mwynne | http://paste.openstack.org/show/625786/ | 00:00 |
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| mwynne | SamYaple: I think I forgot to paste it in here. | 00:04 |
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| SamYaple | mwynne: what kernel version? and what version of ovs client utils | 00:08 |
| SamYaple | im running out of ideas because it all looks like its behaving right | 00:08 |
| mwynne | Linux compute-11 4.4.0-87-generic #110-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jul 18 12:55:35 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux | 00:08 |
| SamYaple | the flows are actively increasing packet count where it matters | 00:08 |
| mwynne | ovs-vsctl (Open vSwitch) 2.6.1 | 00:09 |
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| mwynne | SamYaple: the working newton version is kernel 3.10 (centos), i'm on ubuntu | 00:09 |
| mwynne | and centos is 2.6.0 OVS | 00:10 |
| SamYaple | mwynne: if youre able, try running the 4.11 kernel. thats the hwe-edge linux-imagekernel | 00:10 |
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| SamYaple | im aware of a few bugs with 4.4 (not that should be causing this but, like i said running out of ideas) | 00:10 |
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| SamYaple | mwynne: wait. what are metadata and l3 agent running on the compute | 00:12 |
| SamYaple | why* | 00:12 |
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| mwynne | SamYaple: hmm, leftovers from puppet for DVR | 00:13 |
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| SamYaple | are you doing DVR right now? | 00:14 |
| mwynne | no | 00:14 |
| SamYaple | would recommend cleaning up those entries | 00:14 |
| SamYaple | and this may seem a bit drastic, but purging the ovs db and rebooting. i am not fully aware of the blackmagic DVR does | 00:15 |
| mwynne | how does one purge the ovs-db? | 00:15 |
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| SamYaple | stop the openvswitch-switch service | 00:17 |
| SamYaple | ensure there areno ovs processes running | 00:17 |
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| mwynne | done | 00:17 |
| SamYaple | now you have two options, your choice on the easy one | 00:18 |
| SamYaple | you can purge openvswitch-switch adn thenreinstall | 00:18 |
| SamYaple | or you can actually remove the db directly but then you haveto recreate it | 00:18 |
| SamYaple | the install proccess will recreate it | 00:18 |
| SamYaple | andyou absoulutely must reboot after (once the db is gone, the kernel and client areout of sync and there is no way to get them back in sync) | 00:18 |
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| mwynne | SamYaple: delete package, install package, reboot? | 00:19 |
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| SamYaple | purge package (and make sure /var/lib/openvswitch is gone), reboot then reinstall | 00:19 |
| SamYaple | though the last part is interchangable | 00:19 |
| SamYaple | probably | 00:19 |
| SamYaple | when it comes back up remember to add br-ex and your interface back into br-ex | 00:20 |
| mwynne | ok | 00:20 |
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| cynikal_ | does openstack these days have the concept of a network node still? now that we have DVR's | 00:22 |
| cynikal_ | i'm asking because i was hoping to have one or two limited amount of hosts connected on the internet and have certain instances have floating ip's on the internet | 00:22 |
| cynikal_ | however i don't want to connect every compute node to the edge switch | 00:23 |
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| mwynne | SamYaple: So, br-int doesn't exist yet either. do I ned to recreate that as well? | 00:24 |
| mwynne | SamYaple: Nevermind. Needed to install the neutron package again.. | 00:25 |
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| SamYaple | mwynne: hah yes. neutron creates br-int andbr-tun | 00:48 |
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| SamYaple | cynikal_: the majority of people dont use DVR, and "network node" was only a conceptual thing from the install guide | 00:48 |
| SamYaple | just like "controller" and "compute" | 00:48 |
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| SamYaple | they are just conceptual things to simplify explaining bits | 00:48 |
| SamYaple | i dont normally see dedicated "network" nodes in environments, its normally co-located on the "controllers" | 00:49 |
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| mihdih | elow just wanna ask again, i understand that when overcommitting its only taken into account in the scheduler. but is there a way to check that it has been successfully applied when implemented? | 00:55 |
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| mihdih | or should it only be known once the vms have been launched? | 00:56 |
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| SamYaple | mihdih: which resource are we talking about? | 00:58 |
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| SamYaple | there is no additional checking on the compute, so yes you can trigger OOM and disk full stuff affecting all instances | 00:59 |
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| mihdih | SamYaple: oh my bad. i was not clear enough with my question. anyway i was referring to the cpu and ram overcommit | 01:00 |
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| SamYaple | right, so with teh cpu, its just going to work, you can run 10000 vms and theyll all run really slow all fighting for cpu resources (realistically this would crash, but you get the idea) | 01:02 |
| mihdih | SamYaple: i believe and as documented, it will not be reflecting from the api result and in the database. but am just wondering, that if applied. is there anyway to check via any tool? rather than just forcefully launch and instance that has a resource way beyond the total one | 01:03 |
| SamYaple | the ram is trickier. since it balloons out it usage as the VM grabs more, if all VMs make large claims to the persumed ammount of ram they have you can absolutely trigger the OOM killer | 01:03 |
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| SamYaple | mihdih: the amount of resources a compute reports is the *real* resources multiplied by the overcommit, so it is absultely reflected in the database | 01:04 |
| SamYaple | but we may be talking past each other here? | 01:04 |
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| mihdih | SamYaple: oh you mean like the *real* cpu multiplied by the overcommit ratio is stored in the database? the value that the compute node can accomodate? like if let say if have 16 vcpu then with overcommit value of 2:1, in the database should reflect 32? | 01:07 |
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| Bryan | Hi people! | 01:22 |
| mihdih | yellow :) | 01:22 |
| penick | purple | 01:23 |
| mihdih | great openstack summit by the way :D | 01:24 |
| Bryan | Does anyone have some tips for getting statired with fault tolerance and high availability? | 01:24 |
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| Bryan | I'm getting started with openstack and tried successfully a simple deploy of 1 controller + 1 compute + 1 cinder with mirantis fuel | 01:25 |
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| Bryan | And now I am trying a 3-controller deploy | 01:25 |
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| SamYaple | Bryan: there is a high-availability guide, but looking at existing deploy tools andhow they doit is best | 01:26 |
| SamYaple | each component has little HA quirks | 01:26 |
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| Bryan | Which deploy tools you refer? | 01:27 |
| Bryan | I have read about pacemaker but I am not sure if it is the way to go | 01:27 |
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| b1urrybird | hey all my barbican seems to be throwing 500 errors but when I repeat the same command a second or two later it returns the secrets successfully - thoughts? | 03:00 |
| b1urrybird | it's as simple as a barbican secret container list | 03:00 |
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| SamYaple | b1urrybird: are you loadbalancing? | 03:08 |
| SamYaple | start checking logs onthe servers | 03:08 |
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| roedie | Hi, is there a way in openstack Ocata/Pike to force al uploaded images in glance to be converted to raw format? | 03:11 |
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| roedie | At least, for all images where it makes sense for to do this. | 03:11 |
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| b1urrybird | SamYaple: 3 controllers, only been checking the logs on the server with the floating IP since barbican is being called by controller VIP's hostname | 03:18 |
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| b1urrybird | the error appears to be "Lost connection to the MySQL server during query" | 03:19 |
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| SamYaple | roedie: kinda? the real answer is no. you can block non-raw images in horizon and the glance config, but it doesnt do inspection of the image on upload, so someone could upload a "raw" image that is actually a qcow2 | 03:21 |
| SamYaple | roedie: you can use glance tasks to convert the image as its pushed, but thats a client side thing you wouldhave to do, so nothing would enforce raw image upload | 03:22 |
| roedie | SamYaple: Ha, yeah, I read about the glance task part on a blog by Sebastien Han. But I also saw a blueprint about conversion in glance. Could not find if it was implemented or not. | 03:23 |
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| b1urrybird | SamYaple: INFO barbican.api.controllers.containers [req gibberish] - Resetting dropped connection: openstack.in.company.au followed by a stack trace followed by ERROR barbican.api.controllers OperationalError: (pymysql.err.OperationalError) (2013, 'Lost connection to MySQL server during query') | 03:33 |
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| masber | Hi, how could I tell neutron that I want to use MTU=9000 on my virtual networks? | 03:42 |
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| roedie | b1urrybird: Do you have some short client timeout session on mysql? | 03:44 |
| roedie | b1urrybird: Or at least, too short for this query | 03:44 |
| b1urrybird | haproxy has client timeout set to 2m, connect and http-request set to 10s | 03:46 |
| b1urrybird | command definitely finishes faster than 10 seconds | 03:47 |
| b1urrybird | and sometimes it works perfectly | 03:47 |
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| SamYaple | masber: neutron does auto mtu stuff since mitaka. set your physical interfaces to 9000 and neutron should take care of the rest (but that wont update existing ports/networks) | 03:52 |
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| sapd | Hi everyone! I'm running Openstack Pike Version with 30 nodes compute. But some instances (not all) can't resize or cold migrate. Nova-scheduler debug log: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25915219/ | 04:24 |
| sapd | Please help me. I saw DEBUG log message: There are 1 hosts available but 5 instances requested to build. But I just resize one instance. | 04:25 |
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| masber | sapd, are you using numa nodes? are you pinning your vcpus? | 05:42 |
| masber | it looks like the instance can't fit into any numa node | 05:43 |
| masber | if that is the case, it is a pain in the ass, what I normally do when I have that issue is to reboot the vms on one node and then start them again in reverse order based on how many cpus/memory they have | 05:45 |
| masber | so the ones with bigger flavors first | 05:45 |
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| sapd | Hi masber, I checked. This error because when I launch instance I set count =5, So 5 instances was launched parallel, I tested on Kilo, It does not have this error. | 06:24 |
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| hnori | Hey | 10:20 |
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| hnori | I'm trying to figure out an issue with neutron router with ovs. Using a flat provider network as router gateway works but not with the vlan provider network. However, floating IP and fixed IP assigned to instance from the vlan provider network works just fine. Anyone faced similar issue before? | 10:23 |
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| hnori | Suppose that I ping the physical gateway from the namespace of the router created, it works from one backed by flat provider network. Not from one backed by vlan provider network. | 10:24 |
| hnori | Any thoughts would be appreciated. | 10:24 |
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| Saul_ | Hi hnori | 10:31 |
| Saul_ | Which architecture do you have? | 10:32 |
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| grafoo | hi! | 10:50 |
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| grafoo | does anyone know stuff about diskimage-builder? already asked in the dib channel but i guess nobody is awake there :D. | 10:51 |
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| gunix | can you use cinder volumes and have backups for cinder volumes if your compute is LXD ? | 11:04 |
| Saul_ | Seems that people is sleeping here also | 11:05 |
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| Tengu | hello there! I have a small issue while trying to *resize* an already running instance. | 12:07 |
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| Tengu | apparently, the instance seems to need to be migrated to another node, and this process involves an serie of SSH commands to be issued from compte-1 to compte-2 | 12:07 |
| Tengu | but it fails. | 12:07 |
| Tengu | questions: what user is used for that SSH connection? nova service user seems to be "nova", so I think it's "nova" user that tries the SSH. Am I correct? | 12:08 |
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| crazik | Question: is it possible to connect flavors with volume class? I have 2 class for cinder volumes, and want to create different flavors to use with horizon | 12:31 |
| crazik | (nova instances without ephemeral) | 12:31 |
| crazik | I can split create operaton to 1)create volume 2)create instance, but I'm looking for way to do that with 'create instance' dialog by choosing right flavor | 12:32 |
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| n4ru | hello | 12:56 |
| schmots | o/ | 12:56 |
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| n4ru | I have a question about small network problem that I have, hope you will be able to help me :) | 12:57 |
| n4ru | I need to limit number of connections that are connected to vm | 12:57 |
| n4ru | I've read that in libvirt there is something called nwfilter | 12:58 |
| n4ru | and nova have it implemented, but in Nova it is working as firewall | 12:58 |
| n4ru | and as firewall we use security groups | 12:58 |
| n4ru | Or am I mixing something and nova firewall and neutron sec groups are something different | 12:58 |
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| schmots | there is a bit of a cross. However I am unaware of a setting that will limit the total number of connections to an instance | 13:01 |
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| edi | hi! i'm wondering | 18:13 |
| edi | the openstack router says it's external ip is some public pingable ip | 18:14 |
| schmots | yeah | 18:14 |
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| edi | so great, the router has some internal ip too, 192.168... | 18:15 |
| schmots | yup | 18:15 |
| edi | and i launch an instance in that private net | 18:15 |
| edi | ending with .0.12 | 18:15 |
| edi | so i wonder how to tell the router to route ssh connections to that 0.12 box | 18:15 |
| schmots | floating ips | 18:15 |
| edi | without attaching a floating ip directly to the box | 18:15 |
| edi | so that ISNT possible at all | 18:15 |
| schmots | you don't | 18:16 |
| edi | . | 18:16 |
| edi | ?* | 18:16 |
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| schmots | you have to use floating ips with a self-service network, which is what it sounds like you setup. | 18:16 |
| schmots | for accessing instances from outside the openstack enviornment | 18:16 |
| edi | it's from a user perspective using a public openstack provider , i suspect self service indeed | 18:17 |
| edi | but I was thinking the whole time | 18:17 |
| edi | that me using a floating ip | 18:17 |
| edi | is a lack of knowlegde of how to properly use the router object and stuff | 18:17 |
| schmots | Nope, you are doing fine. | 18:17 |
| edi | but i can't find any confirmation online that using floating ip's is the ónly option for that | 18:18 |
| edi | so what is the ipv4 address of the router used for then? | 18:18 |
| edi | outgoing traffice only? | 18:18 |
| schmots | its a bridged interface | 18:18 |
| edi | oke | 18:18 |
| schmots | yes, the instances are nat’d through it. | 18:18 |
| edi | starting to get the picture :p | 18:19 |
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| edi | thanks for the clarification | 18:19 |
| schmots | No problem. | 18:19 |
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| Kvisle | why is horizon so slow, and what have people done to make their horizon faster? | 20:17 |
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| DHE | Kvisle: I find it's actually related to keystone being slow since every request needs to be authenticated | 20:35 |
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| Kvisle | DHE: thanks for the hint, that actually might be it -- the wsgi-config that the puppet-keystone code defaults to sets 1 worker with 4 threads ... we get 400 keystone requests a minute when we're not trying to do anything | 20:48 |
| * Kvisle bumps. | 20:48 | |
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| SmearedBeard | hey all, I created a user with openstack cli, but not able to login, keystone logs state the user can not be found, but looking in keystone DB, I can see the user fine | 20:58 |
| SmearedBeard | creating in Horizon works fine, Im running Pike from OSAD as well | 20:59 |
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| SamYaple | SmearedBeard: possibly the wrong domain? | 21:11 |
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| SmearedBeard | SamYaple the user is in a domain I created, but not what you mean exactly | 21:18 |
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| SamYaple | SmearedBeard: "but not ableto login" is referingto horizon, yes? | 21:19 |
| SamYaple | if so youll need to specify your domain, and thats disabled by default | 21:19 |
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| gin0 | Openstack distribution recommended that it does not consume a lot of resources, the Centos RDO in IBM with Xeon processor and 4G of RAM memory was insufficient. | 21:20 |
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| SamYaple | gin0: try lowering the number of threads for all services. by default most of them spin up a thread per core and consume alot of ram | 21:21 |
| SamYaple | reducing the workers to 1 for each service and you can run on ~2GB of ram | 21:21 |
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| SmearedBeard | ah I got it, thanks SamYaple | 21:23 |
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| gin0 | thanks SamYaple , any recomendatios | 21:29 |
| gin0 | any recommendations | 21:30 |
| SamYaple | gin0: each service has one or more option named similiar to "workers", find those settings and set that value to 1 | 21:30 |
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| hdon | hi all :) when i use "nova list" where does the ID column come from? i expected to find it in the nova.instances table somewhere but i'm not seeing it | 22:31 |
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