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| gun1x | SamYaple: how do you deploy kubernetes? openshift? | 10:32 |
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| gun1x | SamYaple: do you use ceph as storage for kubernetes ? | 10:38 |
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| SamYaple | gun1x: i mostly do it by hand, im actually working out a fully tls'd deploy complete with vault auto-generated certs in ansible as we speak | 11:02 |
| SamYaple | https://github.com/SamYaple/home-ansible | 11:02 |
| SamYaple | i do use ceph for everything, yes | 11:02 |
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| gun1x | SamYaple: so why do you use openstack if k8s is so good ? | 11:08 |
| SamYaple | gun1x: does k8s support vms natively? | 11:11 |
| SamYaple | that said, yes i have ventured into running vms with k8s, but its not entirely suited for that yet | 11:11 |
| SamYaple | they bothhave thier place and are not direct competiors | 11:11 |
| SamYaple | openstack *on* k8s is my ideal deploy | 11:12 |
| gun1x | SamYaple: yea but if the customer has only linux services, he doesn't need VMs | 11:12 |
| gun1x | SamYaple: i did't find any apps that don't run on 4.4 (16.04 kernel) | 11:12 |
| SamYaple | thats not true at all | 11:12 |
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| gun1x | SamYaple: how so ? | 11:13 |
| SamYaple | gun1x: there are plenty of applications that make it very difficult if not impossible to run in a container | 11:13 |
| SamYaple | and im not here to make decisions about applications, i just want a place to run them | 11:13 |
| gun1x | SamYaple: ok, so if he has legacy applications ... | 11:13 |
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| gun1x | SamYaple: so this means openstack-lxd really has no point, since you can use k8s for containers and openstack-kvm for everything else? :D | 11:14 |
| SamYaple | gun1x: i dont beleive openstack should be targeting containers in any form, correct | 11:14 |
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| SamYaple | its good at vms, it should stick to that | 11:15 |
| tgerczei | is there a complete write-up of openstack an top of k8s? I have os exposure, but havent seen k8s yet | 11:15 |
| tgerczei | on top* | 11:15 |
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| gun1x | tgerczei: mirantis cloud platform delivers that... my company should get me a copy of that soon so that's why i am researching k8s right now | 11:15 |
| SamYaple | tgerczei: there are heat templates and even projects in openstack native to for this (magnum specifically) | 11:15 |
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| tgerczei | rh also does now | 11:16 |
| tgerczei | SamYaple: thanks | 11:16 |
| gun1x | tgerczei: afaik rh delivers openstack platform with openshift on top | 11:16 |
| SamYaple | gun1x: mirantis used to be great for openstack.... but they literally killed thier fuel line without a migration path. i would approach anything mirantis with.... caution | 11:16 |
| SamYaple | they have lost most of thier good people too | 11:17 |
| gun1x | SamYaple: fuel is still developed under OPNFV | 11:17 |
| SamYaple | fuel-ccp != fuel | 11:17 |
| SamYaple | despite the name | 11:17 |
| gun1x | Jio seem to be happy with the partnership :D | 11:17 |
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| SamYaple | hey man. i work on upstream stuff. companies gonna do what companies do. companies might be happy, engineers definetely dont feel that way at mirantis | 11:18 |
| SamYaple | the ones left anyway | 11:18 |
| gun1x | SamYaple: yea well my company already has a strategical parnership with mirantis and i'll get MCP shoved down my throat... | 11:19 |
| SamYaple | sure. i get that. ive had to work on/with things im not happy with. gotta do what you gotta do | 11:20 |
| gun1x | SamYaple: working with open source would make me happy anyway. i did years of work on vmware and windows, so this would be a great change | 11:20 |
| gun1x | SamYaple: i am just a bit worried because MCP is still on ocata and Jewel ... instead of pike and luminous ... | 11:21 |
| SamYaple | gun1x: im used to being 2-3 *years* behind onopenstack where i work | 11:21 |
| SamYaple | ocata isstill a suported version | 11:21 |
| SamYaple | behappy | 11:21 |
| gun1x | :D | 11:28 |
| gun1x | SamYaple: this years was a really strange year for openstack anyway. there were a lot of development projects killed, however, there are tons of new deployments of openstack. kind of confusing tbh | 11:29 |
| SamYaple | gun1x: meh. openstack isstabalizing for sure. the wave crested about a year ago | 11:30 |
| SamYaple | its not going away anytime soon though | 11:30 |
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| gun1x | SamYaple: i don't think it will go away. china just invested a lot in openstack. and ... it's china ... | 11:40 |
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| SamYaple | yep | 11:41 |
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| bhujay | if any one can help me , which program is responsible for creating the tap interface , associated bridge and the uplink port (vxlan-id) in nova compute node ? | 13:12 |
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| bhujay | i am using pike with linuxbridge with kvm. From the VM on a tenant net , when I am trying the reach to dhcp the traffic is not reaching to the desired physical interface | 13:14 |
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| DHE | bhujay: it's a team effort between nova which runs the VM and neutron which manages the network | 13:45 |
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| DHE | which is why installation instructions specify to install a neutron and nova service on each compute node | 13:45 |
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| bhujay | DHE:Thanks. Looks like linuxbridge agent in compute node will create the vxlan-id interface | 14:20 |
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| DHE | maybe I'm wrong but I thought linuxbridge didn't support vxlan. it's a pretty simple switch with basic iptables support | 14:34 |
| DHE | well, I guess I'm wrong | 14:36 |
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| gun1x | SamYaple: on which distro do you run kubernetes, and why? i am used to deb/ubu but i see people use stuff like core os and arch | 22:43 |
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| SamYaple | gun1x: ubuntu. best support for k8s and docker. but i run debian containers mostly | 22:51 |
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| gun1x | SamYaple: why not alpine for containers? | 23:39 |
| gun1x | or some other minimal stuff? | 23:39 |
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