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| tasker | hello. nova metadata help needed. on the whole, my metadata service works just fine. I can query it at http://169.254.169.254/openstack/latest all day long. when instances are created, cloudinit queries the metadata and pulls in the SSH keys everytime. but when I try to update openstack/latest/password with something so that I can see it with "nova get-password" the nova-api-metadata service doesn't | 00:38 |
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| tasker | update it. | 00:38 |
| tasker | in the logs, all I see are GETS when I send a POST | 00:38 |
| tasker | I don't use the neutron metadata service, so I have "service_metadata_proxy" set to False. | 00:38 |
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| tasker | and the nova_api_metadata log says "failed to get metadata for IP: <controller IP>". I don't even know where the controller IP comes from. | 00:39 |
| tasker | also, the configuration description for "service_metadata_proxy" says if the option is set to False, then X-Instance-ID must be in the header. the log file states "X-Instance-ID found in header, service_metadata_proxy must be enabled". | 00:40 |
| tasker | is there a set of configuration directives that tell nova to handle its own metadata and not to look at neutron? | 00:41 |
| tasker | but, if some of metadata works, why doesn't "password"? | 00:41 |
| tasker | I'm so confused here. I've done many searches but all the posts I see just assume that POSTing to the metadata service just works. | 00:42 |
| tasker | s/all/the maority of | 00:43 |
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| tasker | this is openstack mitaka | 00:44 |
| mwynne | tasker: stupid question, are you using DVR? Did that exist in mitaka? | 00:49 |
| tasker | i don't know what that is with respect to Nova, so no. | 00:49 |
| mwynne | tasker: Distributed Virtual Routing -> It's a Neutron thing. | 00:50 |
| SamYaple | it did exist in mitaka, yes | 00:50 |
| mwynne | SamYaple: Thanks :) | 00:50 |
| mwynne | SamYaple: I had no idea. | 00:51 |
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| SamYaple | tasker: if im not mistaken metadata_proxy is a requirement for neutron | 00:52 |
| mwynne | tasker: https://docs.openstack.org/mitaka/install-guide-ubuntu/neutron-controller-install.html | 00:53 |
| mwynne | There's a section on metadata in there | 00:53 |
| SamYaple | tasker: but back tothe issue at hand, are you trying to update the instance level password? | 00:53 |
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| tasker | i don't know about "level", but I'm wanting to set the password in the instance metadata so that it can be retrieved externally with "nova get-password <instanceID>" | 00:54 |
| tasker | SamYaple: does that match what you're asking? | 00:55 |
| SamYaple | tasker: im 90% sure thats not possible | 00:55 |
| SamYaple | you can inject a password at instance creation time, but you cant change it afterward | 00:55 |
| tasker | nova dev mriedem says that tempest does such a thing: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/tempest/tree/tempest/scenario/test_server_basic_ops.py#n90 | 00:56 |
| SamYaple | let me double check the mitaka api | 00:56 |
| SamYaple | in the newest version ofnova, yes | 00:56 |
| tasker | like .. how new? | 00:57 |
| SamYaple | tasker: https://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/compute/#change-administrative-password-changepassword-action | 00:57 |
| SamYaple | tasker: well thats master.... | 00:57 |
| tasker | sorry, no. I don't want to change the password via the API, I just want to add it to the metadata. | 00:57 |
| SamYaple | but changing the password is very subjective to configuration, so my facts might be mixed up here | 00:57 |
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| SamYaple | tasker: you can always do custom metadata, sure | 00:58 |
| SamYaple | but putting a password in custom metadata is a very bad idea | 00:58 |
| tasker | not me, it seems. . ) | 00:58 |
| tasker | encrypted of course. | 00:58 |
| tasker | are you familiar with cloudbase-init? | 00:58 |
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| SamYaple | yep | 00:59 |
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| SamYaple | if you ahve horizon, you should be able to update the metadata onthefly there | 00:59 |
| SamYaple | the cli command to do it im not sure ive used | 00:59 |
| tasker | I haven't seen a CLI command to add to instance metadata. | 00:59 |
| seniorcrepe | Correct me if I am wrong.. but fernet keys are 128bit AES. | 00:59 |
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| SamYaple | seniorcrepe: questoin best for #openstack-keystone, i dont know the exact encryption used | 01:00 |
| seniorcrepe | Ok I'll head over there.. Am wondering about possible compliance issues | 01:00 |
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| SamYaple | tasker: https://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/compute/#create-or-update-metadata-items | 01:02 |
| SamYaple | not finding a cli command to do it though | 01:02 |
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| SamYaple | tasker: perfect openstack server set --property key=value <instance> | 01:03 |
| SamYaple | wontmake it accessible to `nova get-password` though, just fyi | 01:03 |
| SamYaple | thats pulling the password stored in teh DB | 01:04 |
| tasker | unfortunately, that's second-half of my requirement. | 01:04 |
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| SamYaple | youll have to update that with `openstack server set --root-password <instance>` | 01:05 |
| tasker | the first half is that the password is set inside the instance via script and sent to the instance metadata for the later, external retrieval. | 01:05 |
| SamYaple | that is, if your env allwos it | 01:05 |
| SamYaple | i just want to say again,putting it in metadata, encrypted or no, is a bad idea | 01:05 |
| SamYaple | but you do you | 01:05 |
| SamYaple | tools are there for you :) | 01:06 |
| tasker | well. | 01:06 |
| tasker | ok. maybe you can ignore what I want to do with the metadata and help me with determining if there's a way to configure nova to _not_ use neutron as a metadata proxy. | 01:07 |
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| tasker | what I gather from the configuration of nova, it's possible. but I'm not finding any writeups on configuring nova metadata. | 01:07 |
| tasker | s/it's/it ought to be" | 01:07 |
| SamYaple | tasker: if you use nova-network, sure! | 01:08 |
| SamYaple | with neutron, i dont believe thats possible | 01:09 |
| SamYaple | its definetely not supported | 01:09 |
| SamYaple | as nova-network goes away, ill bet the option toeven enable/disable the metadata_proxy goes away | 01:09 |
| SamYaple | maybe im wrongthough, definetely keep asking | 01:09 |
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| SamYaple | i suspect youll find that itll leak data if you can do it theway you want anyway | 01:10 |
| SamYaple | youve gotta auth somehow after all | 01:10 |
| tasker | that was something I puzzeled over as well. | 01:10 |
| SamYaple | well neutron handles that for you. it know the instance is who the instance says it is (based on ip) and sets the appropriate auth options | 01:11 |
| SamYaple | youll have to handle that otherwise | 01:11 |
| SamYaple | *if* its possible | 01:11 |
| tasker | using the IP seems an odd way to go about trusting an instance identification. | 01:11 |
| SamYaple | of course its always posible to hit the nova-metadata api and set the appropriate headers | 01:11 |
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| SamYaple | tasker: neutron enforces anti-spoofing rules | 01:12 |
| tasker | ah, problem avoided. | 01:12 |
| DHE | anyone know what causes keystone to be CPU-hungry? my controller is slow as heck and it's clearly keystone's fault. newton following the RDO install guide | 01:12 |
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| SamYaple | DHE: if youre using uuid tokens, the database might be full-o-tokens causing slow down | 01:12 |
| tasker | DHE is it disk I/O or pure-cpu bound? | 01:12 |
| SamYaple | if youre using fernet and doing a zillion token creations, then that too | 01:13 |
| tasker | ^ | 01:13 |
| tasker | alright SamYaple. thanks for your insight and assistance. I'll mull over what we've discussed and figure something out. | 01:14 |
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| DHE | tasker: clearly CPU... | 01:14 |
| SamYaple | tasker: if i might ask.... whats the aversion to using the neutron-metadata-proxy? after, its only a proxy to handle auth for you | 01:15 |
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| tasker | SamYaple: that is an excellent question. I asked my engineers this very question and they replied "'cause". | 01:35 |
| SamYaple | they are almost certainly wrong | 01:35 |
| SamYaple | ican think of no valid reason to do what youre trying to do | 01:36 |
| tasker | I'm doing it because I'm trying to trouble shoot why cloudbase-init can't do it. I came to the conclusion that part of my problem was the exclusion of the neturon-metadata service in my cluster. | 01:37 |
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| SamYaple | it might have been configured wrong.... but its not the "problem" for sure | 01:37 |
| tasker | so, partly, I wondered if the metadata proxy is a configurable, cloudn't I configure it in another direction? | 01:38 |
| tasker | yes. problem == misconfiguration. | 01:38 |
| SamYaple | it is literally just a proxy to help handle auth. its talking to the nova-metadata service | 01:38 |
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| tasker | if it's required, why is it behind the configurable "service_metadata_proxy = (boolean)"? | 01:39 |
| SamYaple | somepeople dont use metadata at all | 01:39 |
| tasker | then the configurable is moot, no? | 01:40 |
| SamYaple | i mean you can cofigurable it to "off" | 01:40 |
| SamYaple | "required" as in to get metadata the way you are wanting it | 01:40 |
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| SamYaple | you can, from an instance right now, get the metdata directly from nova-metadata. you jsut have to provide additional headers and auth | 01:40 |
| SamYaple | you could concivably replace it with your own service, but to what end? | 01:41 |
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| tasker | now operations replies "automation!" | 01:41 |
| tasker | <- developer | 01:42 |
| SamYaple | automation for what....? the whole purpose of the service is for automation | 01:42 |
| SamYaple | without the proxy 169.254.169.254 doesnt go anywhere.... | 01:42 |
| SamYaple | unless of course you setup a service for that | 01:42 |
| tasker | then my problem isn't with nova or neutron, but whatever service I use for metadata. | 01:43 |
| tasker | interesting theory. | 01:43 |
| SamYaple | do you think youre running a non-openstack-supported metadata service? | 01:43 |
| SamYaple | that would be a bit suprising | 01:43 |
| SamYaple | the level of intergration toget that into place.... | 01:44 |
| * SamYaple shudders | 01:44 | |
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| tasker | we're using midonet. and it's starting to feel like i need to go back and have a talk with my engineers. | 01:44 |
| SamYaple | https://github.com/midonet/midonet/blob/master/docs/openstack-metadata-usage.md | 01:45 |
| SamYaple | yea ok they run thier own service | 01:45 |
| SamYaple | but its doing about the same thing for sure | 01:46 |
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| tasker | nice find. I'll read that and confer with my engies about how to talk to it. | 01:47 |
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| tasker | it is time for me to leave the office. SamYaple, don't stay up all night! | 01:52 |
| SamYaple | ill do what i want | 01:53 |
| tasker | ah, yes. following the advice of "do you". . ) | 01:54 |
| tasker | thanks again for your help. | 01:54 |
| SamYaple | anytime | 01:55 |
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| ldl | Hi, friends, how are you? | 02:16 |
| ldl | can you help me about this? | 02:17 |
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| ldl | https://stackoverflow.com/questions/47698116/neutron-plugins-ml2-drivers-linuxbridge-agent-linuxbridge-neutron-agent-inte | 02:17 |
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| SamYaple | ldl: openstack network agent list ? | 02:37 |
| SamYaple | shows nothing as well? | 02:37 |
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| ldl | :SamYaple | 02:38 |
| ldl | yes | 02:38 |
| ldl | shows nothing | 02:38 |
| SamYaple | how did you deploy openstack? and what version is it? | 02:39 |
| ldl | ocata | 02:40 |
| ldl | manually | 02:41 |
| SamYaple | how are you running neutron? neutron-server? | 02:41 |
| ldl | I install the controller and compute node in one node | 02:41 |
| ldl | systemctl restart neutron-linuxbridge-agent.service | 02:42 |
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| ldl | yum install -y openstack-neutron-linuxbridge ebtables ipset | 02:42 |
| SamYaple | thats not going to install the api | 02:42 |
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| ldl | how can I find this issue? friend. | 02:49 |
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| SamYaple | ldl: are you following the dpeloyment guide on docs.openstack.org ? | 02:53 |
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| ldl | I follow a tutorial, because I install the controller and compute in one node. | 02:54 |
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| bartuss7 | Hello. I'm trying to ctreate heat template with ResourceGroup. It is possible to create server name as {get-param: "OS:stack_name"}-%index", but returns syntax error. Only I can do is use static sting, like node-%index% | 12:42 |
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| bartuss7 | Hello, i'm trying to create heat template with resourcegroup (one heat parameter will be number of vms). It is possible some how to create software deployment which saves al lips and hostnames to /etc/host on all instances? | 14:32 |
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| tasker | gooooood morning, openstack! | 15:07 |
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| wwalker | openstack subnet --no-allocation-pool set lab-17-subnet yields ERROR: openstack Invalid command '--no-allocation-pool' | 16:33 |
| wwalker | openstack subnet set lab-17-subnet yields ERROR: openstack Unknown command ['subnet', 'set', 'lab-17-subnet'] | 16:34 |
| wwalker | any idea what I'm doing wrong? | 16:34 |
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| umbSublime | openstack subnet set --no-allocation-pool lab-17-subnet | 16:39 |
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| umbSublime | wwalker, your argument is in the wrong spot | 16:46 |
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| sinh | hi . . general question - does microsoft officially support windows servers in openstack? | 17:32 |
| sinh | i know cloudbase.it has windows images | 17:32 |
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| schmots | you should be able to get support for any purchased license for MS servers even if they are running on openstack | 17:49 |
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| wwalker | umbSublime: wwalker@int-controller-01:~$ openstack subnet set --no-allocation-pool lab-17-subnet | 17:56 |
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| wwalker | ERROR: openstack Invalid command '--no-allocation-pool' | 17:56 |
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| wwalker | :-( | 17:57 |
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| mwynne | wwalker: If you run `openstack help subnet set` do you see --no-allocation-pool as an option? | 18:00 |
| mwynne | wwalker: Version of openstack? | 18:00 |
| wwalker | wwalker@int-controller-01:~$ openstack help subnet set | 18:00 |
| wwalker | ERROR: openstack Unknown command ['subnet', 'set'] | 18:00 |
| wwalker | wwalker@int-controller-01:~$ openstack --version | 18:00 |
| wwalker | openstack 0.3.0 | 18:00 |
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| mwynne | wwalker: newton, ocata..etc?? | 18:01 |
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| mwynne | wwalker: sounds like that's not a valid option for your version perhaps. | 18:02 |
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