Friday, 2018-01-19

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redcavalierHi, just something I'd like to double check: does nova stop soft shutdown or hard shutdown a VM?01:14
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SamYapleredcavalier: soft (acpi event, the vm canactually ignore it)05:06
SamYapleredcavalier: there might be a backup timeout mechanism that will hard shut it down... or maybe a hard api, imnot sure05:07
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redcavalierSamYaple, I see, that's interesting. It does raise some questions though05:08
SamYaplehow so05:08
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redcavalierWell, what I am working on right now is a script that switch the block device driver for ~80 vms by editing values in the openstack database. Once the values are changed, and I nova stop and start, the vm's config file does reflect the changes I've made in the database.05:09
redcavalierSo either the config file is remade even when a soft reboot is done, or the VM is ignoring the ACPI command and is getting hard rebooted.05:10
SamYaplenova reboot --hard <instance> is a thing for sure05:11
SamYaplethat will force a config regenreration05:11
SamYaplethere are also a couple other times when it will regen the xml, but i forget when (i think its based on a time window)05:12
SamYapleredcavalier: oh you know what it is05:13
redcavalierOh?05:13
SamYapleredcavalier: nova regens the config when the process is restarted05:13
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SamYapleso a hard reboot actually kills the qemu process05:13
SamYaplea soft reboot is internal to the qemu process05:13
redcavalierYes, that makes sense.05:13
SamYapleredcavalier: the other option is live-migrating them05:14
SamYaplemight be able to make that work for you05:14
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redcavalierSo my VMs are indeed getting hard shutdown, as I expected. I don't mind rebooting them. I have ways of soft-shutting them down and then bringing them back up through ansible. I'm just fighting an uphill battle with my boss on this and was in need of a second opinion.05:15
SamYapleissueing the shutdown from within the vm would be an option here05:15
SamYaplebut yea, ingeneral migrate/live-migrate will also regen the config05:16
SamYapleso you might be able to make that workflow work05:16
redcavalierI usually migrate when doing stuff like this. However when I tested it, I ran into an error. Possibly related to the changes I manually do in the DB I would guess.05:17
SamYapleoh yea. you might want to check on that05:17
SamYaplemight hurt you later if you cant migrate afterthe fact05:17
redcavalierhowever, once the vm is rebooted with the process killed, everything is fine with migration05:17
SamYapleoh i see. hmm yea05:17
SamYaplei can see that having issue05:18
SamYaplewell i wish i could chat more, but its super late here05:18
SamYaplelet me know what you end up doing05:18
redcavalierthat'S fine, that's all I wanted to know05:18
redcavalierI'm going to go with my plan of manually shutting down in ansible and then issuing a boot up in openstack.05:18
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redcavalieror at least test it05:19
SamYaplei like that plan05:19
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redcavalierhehe, me too. Have a good night and thanks for the help.05:19
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digitalowlHello again. Somebody have a problems with rabbitmq in cluster mode? We have a cluster with 3 mgt, 12 net nodes and 400+ compute nodes.15:07
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BLZbubbaanyone have a few minutes to help figure out how to make service_token_roles work?  i thought i set it properly everywhere, but when i try to create an instance, neutron says Unauthorized: Not authorized.16:10
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SamYapledigitalowl: everyone. always.16:12
SamYaplewhat issuesareyou having?16:12
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digitalowlSamYaple: When one managment node is hung - cluster work unstable. CPU usage grow up and some connections from nodes broken.16:43
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digitalowlWhen hung cluster node rebooted - another node still use CPU and work unstable. (rabbitmqctl cluster status show status or error connect without any operations)16:45
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digitalowlAlso, can you tell me about ha implementation? When neutron server not reached message over rabbitmq from node with MASTER qrouter - we send switch command to network node with slave qrouter?16:49
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SamYapledigitalowl: I would recommend running the newest rabbitmq *and* erlang that you can to avoid some of these issues16:58
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SamYaplebut ther eis also alot of rabbitmq tuning you can do when you are at 400+ computes16:58
digitalowlEm... We use CentOS 7.4 with stable repos...16:59
digitalowlWe want add more 250 compute nodes :D16:59
digitalowlWhat's size of regular cloud?17:00
SamYaplei would caution running more than 500 computes without cellsv217:00
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digitalowlWhat's cellsv2 give?17:01
SamYaplehelps fix nova scaling issues17:02
digitalowlOh... It's split managment17:02
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digitalowlTell me, with cells I must create network nodes for each cell separately?17:04
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lucidguyOk, I need to restrict a handful of hypervisors strickly for a single tenant, how should I go about doing this?18:38
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davidbowlbylucidguy, what release are you using?18:44
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davidbowlbyshould be fairly straightforward for the latest ones18:44
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davidbowlbythere is a project_domain_name on the config18:45
davidbowlbyfor nova18:45
SamYapledigitalowl: no. cellsv2 is a nova thing,not a neutron one18:46
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lucidguydavidbowlby: Newton19:00
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davidbowlbyI'm sure it applies to Newton19:01
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davidbowlbybut can't say for sure19:01
davidbowlbynever tried splitting out the compute nodes by tenant, but that's where I'd start19:02
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lucidguydavidbowlby: Ok, Ill look into that, I'm looking for some kind of host aggregate19:13
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davidbowlbyhost aggregate?  can't you use quotas19:14
lucidguyI thought you could create a host aggregate and assign it to a tenant19:15
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semoachi.19:59
semoacQuestion, Why when I create a flavor with 8192 MB, inside the guest the "free -m" command only shows 7983?19:59
semoacthere's a way to ensure the 8GB inside de guest with kvm?20:00
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lucidguyI see you can set scheduler_default_filters in nova.conf, yet I don't see any parameters currently configured.  I'm guessing default settings are configured, how can I output the currently set variables?20:08
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SamYaplesemoac: '/usr/bin/qemu-system-x86_64 -name instance-00008127 -S -machine pc-i440fx-wily,accel=kvm,usb=off -cpu host -m 8192'20:18
SamYaplemy flavorswith 8192 show up like that on the hypervisor20:18
SamYapleare yours the same?20:19
SamYaplebecause if so, that would point to qemu being the issue here20:19
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